Any CBD users out there?
 

Looking for folks who use CBD oil to chime in. Friend at work swears by it for inflammation and anxiety relief.


Are you vaping, or ingesting it orally?

What dosage are you taking?

What are you using it for?

Any side effects you've experienced?

Anything else a new user should know?

honestly it’s just the hot new thing right now, it’ll die off in a few years just like everything else. my sister gives it to her dog....stupid waste of money.

Not a lot of good clinical data yet on some important aspects of its pharmacology. Side effect profile seems okay. No RCTs that I'm aware of that have met statistical significance for efficacy.

I have a couple of friends out in Colorado that have used it - they both say the same thing - waste of money. Doesn't do a thing.

Me? Never tried it so I can't attest to it's "efficacy" or not. But it would seem to me that without the THC - it wouldn't be more than "plant oil".

I use it, and swear by it for: Overall relaxation, anxiety relief, and pain relief.

I think the majority of people who try it and don't like it are looking for similar effects of either: marijuana or opiates.
The other thing I see is people don't take ENOUGH of it. These stores are jacking up the prices on very low potencies.


I've tried 3-5 different brands and so far my favorite is:
https://www.lazarusnaturals.com/shop/#tinctures

I take 1.5 ML dropper of the 3000mg.

This brand tastes the best, and is well priced.

I have been using it for over a month, seems to help with stress and anxiety. I bought one yesterday that has a small amount of thc. I should have gone with the natural flavor because I got cherry limeade and while the initial taste is fine, the after taste is probably comparable to horse piss. Prior to that I used 500 mg (no tch) 1000 mg (no tch) and how this one with thc is only 300 mg.

I have a friend who has grand mal seizures, couldn't afford his medicine anymore and decided to try cbd. Hasn't had a seizure since and its cheaper. Hes a bigger guy and he said his knees feel better because of the anti inflammatory effects. You do need to take the high dose stuff for it to be beneficial the way I understand it. I've never taken it with any regularity but it does seem to have a relaxing feeling to it. Not a high at all. I wouldn't call it a miracle drug but it definitely does stuff to help people.

I've got arthritis in my knees and hands and am looking for advice also.

I made some weed brownies for the first time ever yesterday. I fried the grinds inside some coconut oil and olive oil on lowest setting for 2 hours and then mixed that into the brownie batter. My shoulders has been bothering me for a few weeks, once the brownies kicked in, my body felt pretty good.

My mother in law uses CBD. Vapes it. Says it helps her sleep. She use to smoke weed for the same reason until she tried CBD.

Can't say ive ever tried CBD though.

Didnt do anything for me. But everyone is different

Crack cocaine does the trick for me. Hit it when I feel the pain and next time I know I'm in the basement of an abandoned house on Prospect Ave looking for a Pikachu. I never find that Pikachu, but it sure makes me forget about the pain.

You've obviously never smoked crack.

You wouldn't be looking for pikachu, you would be searching for rocks.

Yeah I made a thread about this last year.

Don't buy The American Shaaman brand its trash. CBD helps my anxiety a little bit. I def feel real relaxed for about 10-15 mins. I've noticed it works better vaping it compared to eating the gummies.

No side effects other than a little drowsiness.

Who do you think holds all the crack? Pikachu.

I must've ran in a different crowd than you

Search feature ****ing sucks on this board. I looked but came up empty.

My crowd actually weren't people afterall

I probably have a really low tolerance since I've only smoked weed a handful of times but I had a pretty tight spot in my lower left back from work and the CBD drop I put in my water helped quite a bit. Guessing at least the inflammation part is true.

It's all good man. Definitely check it out just a heads up it is fairly pricy but there really is no negatives to it other than you might get a little tired. It's not like weed where if you do too much it's hard to function.

CAVEAT: I'm not an expert, a medical professional, or even a drug user. The following is a combination of things I've read and my own direct limited experience with a handful of products. It is not authoritative.

I've tried several forms of CBD for dealing with some pretty serious anxiety (but not full blown panic attacks.) I've written a lot here but I'd still love to hear what other people have to say about it.

My overall verdict is that it works for anxiety. It also seems to help my body generally. Maybe that's just a different way to say I feel less anxiety in my body (as opposed to emotion). Maybe that's what people mean when they talk about anti-inflammatory properties.

I haven't noticed any mental effects or distortions in perception due to CBD. But it does seem to calm my body down. Something that might seem antagonizing, abrasive, or threatening on a bad day instead seems neutral. So even though my brain's perception isn't altered, my body is calmer and I draw different, more helpful conclusions. In turn, I probably make better choices. Instead of feeling like there's an obstacle in every direction, it's easier to just take the obstacles in stride and 'step over' them because they aren't really obstacles at all. I just feel better when I take it.

First I tried two different 'tinctures' from Lazarus Naturals. The idea with tinctures is you let the stuff absorb into your system through the skin in your mouth. LN provides third party testing lab results to prove you're getting the good stuff and no bad stuff from their product. This is important since there's no regulation of the industry right now. LN seems to have some of the best prices online, too. Local shops are VERY expensive in comparison. Both bottles combined were <$80 (2 x750mg CBD). I think local stores at the time were charging >$200 for the same quantity and it was a questionable brand to boot.

The first tincture seemed to work ok. I tried various doses and ended up settling on 25mg in morning and night. That was 1/2 eyedropper of their high potency stuff which contains 50 milligrams of CBD per milliliter of tincture. It helped me with really bad morning anxiety which made the whole day seem easier. It also seemed to help with better sleep, especially if I went to sleep relatively soon after taking it. I think a higher dose would have been better but I was too cheap and 25mg was good enough. I think it may have helped with the body aches and pains of old age but wasn't paying much attention.

The second tincture worked less well. I'm tempted to say it didn't work at all except I did notice an effect occasionally. Not sure if the batch wasn't as strong or what. After some reading, it sounds like I should have been taking this one more consistently instead of just here and there. It was same strength as the first and I was taking similar doses.

Next I decided to try vaping despite being a rabid non-smoker. With a vape pen, more of the CBD is absorbed into your system since the lungs are better at getting it into your bloodstream than the skin is via tincture. Vaping is supposed to have a more immediate effect than other forms. It seems to be more geared toward taking it for immediate relief when you need it instead of consistently over time.

I tried two different vape pens. They were more expensive per mg of CBD than the Lazarus Naturals tinctures. They were also more effective for my use case - immediate relief of anxiety. The SelectCBD Relax Lavender worked really well but I think the lavender irritated my lungs. I liked it anyway. The Canna Hemp Calm worked ok. I liked it better but it didn't work as well as the SelectCBD. I suspect I wasn't dosing high enough because after I bought it I realized it only had half the CBD I expected. I felt like I was wasting money every time I used it so didn't puff as long. It was a bad value even if it was working. It was $35 for the SelectCBD which has 250mg CBD versus $30 for the Canna Hemp which only has 101mg. Canna Hemp might try to point to the terpene profile to justify the cost but the SelectCBD seemed superior and cheaper. The Canna Hemp packaging and pen itself were MUCH nicer, but I don't care about stuff like that. (Note that the tincture gave me roughly 3x as much CBD for the same money but the body doesn't absorb as much with tincture.)

Measuring dosage on a vape pen seems nebulous to me. My standard was six 3-second draws but sometimes I would do eight. I would also do it repeatedly throughout the day. Probably at least three times and not more than six times. With the vape pen it was a lot easier to just indulge myself when I felt the need. Easy to carry around, easy to just grab it and discretely puff a couple of times. Quite tempting. Not addictive, but I could see it being habit-forming.

After a week or two of vaping I started developing a smokers cough. It took a couple of weeks to go away after I stopped vaping. I've read there is some concern about MCT oil in pens going into the lungs. My own coughs are enough anecdotal evidence for me to decide vaping is probably not harmless so I (sadly) decided to discontinue use.

The local shop had a variety of edibles in the form of gummy bears, candies, etc. These were sold individually so it was easy to just spend $2-3 on each just to try them. I tried several and they had no effect even though the doses were higher than I had been using with the tinctures. This isn't surprising. I've read edibles need much higher doses because the body doesn't absorb much CBD through the digestive system. Unless CBD gets much cheaper I won't be trying any more edible variations.

I plan on trying Nasodol next. Nasodol is a nasal spray. Supposedly nasal sprays have even better bioavailability than vape pens. I also think it won't have coughing as a side effect.

The general sense I get is the more bioavailable the CBD is, the faster it works but it is also less long-lasting. If it's less bioavailable, you need a higher dose to have the same effect. From lowest to highest it's oral/edible, then sublingual/tincture, then vape, then nasal. I'm not sure where things like topical cream and soap fit into this but imagine it's similar to tincture. (I may be drawing some incorrect conclusions here, but it's my current understanding.)

Another thing I'll add is I know some people combine using tinctures and vaping. At first this seemed like overkill but I get it now. You can use the tincture to improve your basic experience of life, but then resort to a vape pen if things start getting too dicey.

In short, I say give it a try and experiment to the extent you can afford it. I worry about legality, but if it's in a storefront in a strip mall it is surely legal. I also worry about taking different chemicals into my body. But marijuana, and therefore CBD and hemp, which is the exact same species of plant, has been used for thousands of years by many cultures. The additives in modern food are probably more harmful than CBD. I see minimal risk of harm.

In case anyone is wondering, I have no affiliation with any of the products or vendors I may have mentioned.

Did absolutely nothing for me

I tried it for 30 days hoping for help with chronic pain and poor sleep quality. The oil contained 0% THC.

I noticed no benefit and my wallet was $80 lighter.

I'll try the real deal next time I go to Colorado.

CBD has been great for reducing inflammation/muscle aches. Almost like a miracle drug. Green Mountain brand.

Best way to describe CBD at least a good CBD, is getting high without getting high. Any cannabis smokers know what I mean. You only get the good parts or should I say the non-negative parts of getting high. When I'm on CBD oil I don't have mental fog, I'm quicker, and sharper mentally. The body high or pain relief aspect is real as well but for me, the mental aspects are the greatest purpose. Anyone who smokes really good sativa strains, it's like that in terms of the mental high. Could chug out a 5000-word essay within an hour on CBD without missing a beat. NO brain fog. As a nootropic, it works amazingly. I don't care about studies proving this. For me, it works amazingly as a nootropic and I can see why other people use it for anxiety.

I use Nuleaf CBD oil. 3rd party tested and has a high rating online but it's really, really expensive. For me, a 1.5 month supply costs me around $300-400. I take the oil sublingual so no vaping inferior CBD oil or anything like that. Under the tongue once a day and I'm buzzing the entire day on peak efficiency.

And police out the window.

Has worked well for my chronic shoulder pain that is caused by separated AC joints, torn RC’s and arthritis.

One key thing is to make sure you get full spectrum. This means it’s has a small amount of THC in it. Some states like Kansas allow no THC so in that case make the trip across state lines to purchase.

For those of you that have tried it for anxiety, have you ever tried any other medication previously? If so, what did you use?

I'm really thinking about trying it. Anxiety and joint pain issues for me. My job does random drug testing. Any concerns there ?

Should not be anything to worry about. The CBD that has trace amounts is still low enough it should not trigger.

My business sells a range of products (gummies, oil, ointments, etc.) and we have sold out 5 separate times the past two months with many of them being returning customers. Not every brand is the same product so look into the reviews of what you’re taking before you write off CBD in general.

Our biggest feedback is that it helps with inflammation and anxiety more than anything. I have terrible knees from football injuries and I take the 550 mg oil daily and it helps tremendously with that and overall stress tolerance for me.

We use Green Roads which is among the highest rated in the industry and it has 0% THC so that there is no concern on the drug testing-side of things as well. I’m a big believer in it, feel free to PM me if you have any questions or anything.

Many of the brands contain an amount of THC so be careful on that end. However, be sure to find out if your job tests for THC itself or overall marijuana, because CBD comes from hemp which will show up on a marijuana test even if there is no THC in it.

Lexapro which definitely helped never really had panic attacks since being on it (I'm now off of it), I've also had Klonopin and valium both were ****ing great! Definitely dont want to get addicted to that stuff though.

Yeah, you don't want a benzo addiction.

I've tried many supplements, but not really any psychiatric medicines and probably won't ever. I see nothing but risk and bad science in this arena. I won't go into it but I'm highly skeptical of these solutions except in fairly extreme cases. And look at history. Most of the currently illegal drugs were at one time psychiatric medicines.

Hmmm... still, there are two times one could say I've used them.

First, I had a minor procedure 20+ years ago. I'm pretty sure it was Valium that they gave me. It was enough to put me to sleep even though that wasn't the intent. I doubt I will ever feel so full of bliss as I did that day. CBD doesn't compare to that complete feeling of love, peace, and contentment. It's not even close. Yes... this makes benzodiazepines look very, very attractive to me, but I'm pretty sure I would be addicted in a heartbeat. I stay away... don't want the solution to become the problem.

Second, I had a fairly serious procedure done a couple of years ago. They gave me Vicodin for the pain. I only took it for two and one-half DAYS and I was already obsessing about my next dose. For several weeks after I couldn't stop thinking about taking some to help with anxiety even though Advil was handling the physical pain. No wonder people get addicted to that stuff. I did need it for those few days, so I'm glad it was there, but I minimized doses and quit taking it as soon as I could. During those few days I felt really clear and anxiety free. CBD feels different because Vicodin has a numbing quality and CBD doesn't. For anxiety, CBD isn't quite as effective for me as Vicodin was, but I think it can get close. Right now I don't have the money to test the theory. I eventually settled on 50mg per day but some of the recommended doses for various things go MUCH higher.

On to the supplements...

I think it was about 20 years ago that I was taking super-mega-vitamins for a while. My outlook during that time was pretty amazing. I'm pretty sure having all those B-Complex vitamins was removing stress and boosting my mood. Life was much easier back then and I had a lot more to look forward to so the vitamins had far less to overcome. Still, I think I might try this again once I can afford it.

I used 5-HTP 10-15 years ago. It worked pretty well for a while. I think it gave me more of a 'high' effect, at least in the beginning, than CBD does. 5-HTP seemed to lose effectiveness over time and something got me concerned about its health effects so I stopped. Life was still pretty easy back then so I'm reluctant to make direct comparison with CBD today.

St. John's Wort (pills) did nothing for me 10-15 years ago.

Melatonin did nothing for me 10-15 years ago.

About 5 years ago I tried Valerian root (pills). Anxiety was really bad. I think the Valerian helped a little bit some of the time. It was also probably some of the nastiest smelling stuff I've ever consumed. Just opening the bottle... ugh. Pill form made it okay to swallow, but it wasn't effective enough even without the smell. IIRC, I thought higher doses might help but was reluctant to try based on potential dangers I read about (or something).

Last year, I tried "Natural Calm" magnesium supplement, recommended dose. There seems to be a lot of smoke around magnesium deficiency and anxiety but I never fully explored it. Natural Calm is a powder you mix with water. I think it may have helped a little but not really sure. It's too inconvenient and I don't like drinking a full glass of very bad kool-aid all the time.

Last year I recently tried "Theanine Serene" pills, recommended dose. It may have helped a little bit, but I can't even remember. That means it wasn't effective enough to justify continuation.

I've been taking lots of Vitamin D for about a year. Doctor said mine was really low and gave me a prescription for 50,000 IU per week. Once it came in line I've still been taking 35,000 IU (I don't get ANY sunlight). It doesn't seem to affect my mood directly. However, overall outlook has been gradually improving. I suspect low Vitamin D was affecting me to some extent.

I'm watching the research on psilocybin, MDMA, and Ketamine pretty intently. If they ever become legally available in some form I'll probably do more research for consideration for use.

BTW, there's not much science to CBD right now, but common sense tells me CBD is harmless. Benefit of the doubt and hope led me to try it. Experience tells me it can be effective if you find the right dose and delivery mechanism.

Yeah, it's tough to find a 3 letter acronym using the search feature. You can use google though:

site:chiefsplanet.com cbd

https://www.thecbdistillery.com/prod...gels-60-count/

I take these.. 1 to 2 capsules or 30-60 mg before dinner every evening.. I actually feel like I've taken a puff on a joint if I take 2 of these. It's full spectrum hemp so each capsule contains a milligram of THC.. If I take two then that's 2 mg of THC and it's enough for me to definitely feel it. THis stuff makes viagra look weak.. If you want to have more sex then definitely try them.....

I've had really good luck with fish oil for this...shoulders, knees, back. Some brands better than others.

I'm a massage therapist and I use it at work and at home all the time. I have read some of the literature out there and I have had several classes on it.

It is becoming popular and it is very effective.

The body actually has special CBD receptors which I thought was very interesting.

There are no big side effects. Never heard anyone complain. I know people that use it daily when they get out of the shower.

People mostly love it for the anti inflammatory properties it has....helpful for arthritis etc.

1) Remember that unless your supplements have a USP monograph, you can't be sure that what is in the bottle is actually what is on the label

2) Be wary of taking amino acids to enhance your mood. Almost no protein-based drugs (there are a few rare exceptions) have demonstrable bioavailability because the acidity in your stomach alters their structure. 5HTP can be absorbed, but has a very short half life meaning that it needs to be co-administered with another medication, or taken multiple times per day. There is also far, far less clinical evidence for its safety and efficacy than SSRIs.

3) St. John's Wort is a major inducer of cytochrome P450 enzymes and can lower therapeutic levels of many other medications you take.

4) Taking large amounts of magnesium will give you diarrhea. It's an easy blood test for a lab to run. Average levels run between 1.5-2.2.

5) 35,000 IU of Vitamin D is still quite high. Even those that have diagnosed deficiency only need between 800-2000IU/day after initial supplementation. As it is a fat-soluble vitamin, be cautious with long-term doses that high.

6) Large doses of B-complex vitamins can actually cause health problems (neuropathy, for example), so be careful with your supplementation

7) Good luck

Do you give happy endings?

KC KS never got cocaine they only got crack. It was for us JOCO guys and Plaza Westport players. There used to be a place that I frequented that had a "rock, blade, and a straw on the toilet lid on Sunday nights... restroom was marked as out of order but there was a crowd using it anyway. Cookie dough was the thing as I recall.

Tittie, See rule # 1

In theory, CBD is exactly what I’ve been looking for.

It isn’t talked about much, but supposedly it promotes homeostasis in the body, balancing hormones, modulating the thyroid, etc.

I believe that CBD oil is the same stuff my wife takes to help with her epileptic seizures.
She swears by the stuff and it really helped her get off some off those nasty meds that control her seizures, but make her incredibly tired.

Right now we live on a federal installation and can't have her take the stuff, but when we eventually move back to Colorado: she'll be all set.

how large? I take methyl protect (10 mg B6, 1000 mcg B12) per day.

I tried vaping it but I didn't really feel any effects. I didn't give it all that much of a chance though as the juice flavor I tried wasn't great. If you do want to try vaping it and you haven't tried vaping, I'd suggest using a Joyetech Batpack device. Very convenient, designed for low Wattage which is what you want for CBD, runs on AA batteries, goes for about $18 at My Vapor Store online. You'll want to grab a battery charger from somewhere like Home Depot to go with it.

Doctor is monitoring my vitamin D levels regularly. Seeing my blood results after two one-month prescriptions for 50k IU per week and then doing 5k IU every day OTC for months, he said I should drop back to 5k IU five days a week instead of every day. I'm sure the need is due to an almost complete lack of even incidental exposure to sunlight.

That's an interesting comment on the B-complex stuff since my other doctor suggested I take some B-12 (I think it was 12) to see if a deficiency might be causing some neuropathy. Didn't seem to help so I stopped. I've got other stuff going on which is the likely cause. In my case I don't think it's a current lack of B12 or the vitamins I took for less than a year 15-25 years ago. They were TwinLabs Dualtabs which I think were quite high in B-complex compared to the USDA recommended doses at the time but I don't think it was MEGA doses.

Anyway, I appreciate the tips, warnings and feedback.

Over 100mg per day of B6.

It's a lot, but I've seen people taking hundreds of mg of it on advice of naturopaths and chiros.,

Anyone using this stuff called Placebo? Many people find it very effective.

You're a ****ing idiot.

Kck never got cocaine?

Yeah you're ****ing dumb.

Where do you think all those "hard" JO and westport guys got theirs?

From the loan shark (pawn shop) on Leavenworth Rd.?

I thought everyone knew him....

I had a location in KC KS for several years West Dottsville

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Just take some bupe. Its good for ya, calm the nerves

So drinking 6 monsters a day is not good?

So I knew a guy...


I knew it could be had but it was stepped on a coupledozens of times compared to what came through the KC Art Institute.. So NO, nobody I knew bought out of KCKS. There were times that being in a unique private social club in KC, KS could yield good results

I thought that KC, KS invented crack in a garage behind Ball's grocery store.

I know people rave about it - but it just makes me sleepy. When Ive smoked weed I received a similar effect and barely for high. Was not enjoyable. It must effect certain ppl differently. It doesn't help me relax or feel at peace even though Im sleepy.

You got stepped on shit because you're a dumb ass. Not because of the area.

wife uses it every day,works great on leg pain and nerve issues, stopped all the restless leg at nite too, id say its a success

Brand, product link?

It’s really expensive. I don’t know if it helps or not so I pretty much quit taking it. It also tastes like pot seeds which isn’t that great.

I used CBD cream after a knee injury, it helped to ease the pain. Now I vape CBD oil, when my joint aching, it works faster, but makes me a bit sleepy, so I do this only before bed. I can advise reading the articles on VapingDaily, I found good FAQ about CBD oil after reviews there.

The vapes aren’t as effective as the oils according to our customers. I haven’t tried the vape personally yet but it’s mostly because the sublingual oil works well enough.

Last few days my panic disorder has been terrible I think it's the mixture of stress and drinking way too many diet cokes more than I care to admit. Derealization like a mother ****er for those of you who dont know what it is google it.

Anyway put some CBD in with my rasberry hookah. Most relaxed ive been all week. I would still recommend an SSRI if your anxiety is bad but if that isnt your thing I get it. Atleast for now CBD has put my anxiety in check.

Vapes only advantage over tinctures is speed of uptake which can be critical in seizure treatment.

Otherwise I think people prefer vapes for aesthetic or psychological reasons linked to placebo effect.

I've had great luck with vaping legal everywhere CBD hemp flower. You can order it online. Since I only vape and don't smoke, I usually order an ounce of what are called smalls.Last quite a long time (months) and can be purchased for under $50. The residuals can be used as well to make some very effective CBD brownies. I've ordered from Fields of Hemp with great success. Tweedle Farms as well if Fields of Hemp is out of stock. Just be sure you realize that anyone witnessing your use will assume based on smell and such that you are using cannabis, including law enforcement. Both stores ship a document that provides proof of what you've got going on, should you cross paths with one of your city's finest...

I bought CBD oil online and received my order a couple of days ago. So far, I can't say anything about the effectiveness of cannabis oil. I'm going to try.

I'm not a souless stoner, and I have self respect, so no I have never had the devil's cabbage. You should pray to the good lord to save your soul son. Take no part in satan's vegetables!