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gblowfish 01-28-2019 07:05 PM

How About Some Love for Johnny Robinson?
 
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KC will most likely have TWO guys go into the Pro Football HOF this year. Gonzo is a lock. The veterans committee have narrowed in on Chiefs Great Johnny Robinson, our free safety who played for 11 years in a great secondary. He covered Alworth, and Biletnikoff, and Don Maynard, and Warren Wells and a host of other great AFL receivers. He was the Texans first round draft pick out of LSU in 1960. Chose the Chiefs over the Detroit Lions who picked him in the NFL Draft. His first season he played offense as a flanker, then was moved to defense and played free safety. He was one of the greatest defensive backs in the history of pro football, but has been overlooked up to this year. Look at these accomplishments:
Super Bowl champion (SB IV)
Pro Bowl (1970)
First-team All-Pro (1970)
NFL interceptions leader (1970)
3× AFL champion (1962, 1966, 1969)
6× AFL All-Star (1963–1968)
5× First-team All-AFL (1965–1969)
2× Second-team All-AFL (1963, 1964)
AFL interceptions leader (1966)
AFL All-Time Team
Kansas City Chiefs Hall of Honor
First-team All-SEC (1958) LSU (his team) won the National Championship.

He was also one of only 20 players who played every season the AFL existed. He played in Super Bowl IV with broken ribs. His last game as a Chief was the Miami Double OT Playoff game in 1971. He got hurt and retired after that game. This one really impresses me: He intercepted in all three AFL championship games and Super Bowl IV for Chiefs victories. The winningest player in American Football League history, his team never lost to the Raiders, Chargers, Oilers, Broncos, Patriots, Jets or Dolphins when Robinson made an interception.

If he gets picked, he'll join Culp, Buchanan, Lanier, Bell and Thomas to be the sixth guy off that defense to make the Pro Football HOF. You can put that defense up against the 85 Bears or Steel Curtain. It was amazing. Here's a picture from Robinson's rookie season as a flanker (#42) with Cotton Davidson #19 the Chiefs first QB. This is against the Buffalo Bills in Dallas. Buffalo wore silver and blue then, because Ralph Wilson, their owner, was a part owner of the Detroit Lions before he got the Bills, and patterned their uniforms after the Lions. Paul Brown did the same thing with the Cincinnati Bengals. He came from the Cleveland Browns, and copied Cleveland's uniforms for the Bengals.

Rain Man 01-28-2019 07:09 PM

I've never seen those Buffalo uniforms before.

Hydrae 01-28-2019 07:50 PM

Very cool, thanks for sharing this!

KChiefs1 01-28-2019 07:53 PM

One of my all-time favorites.

big nasty kcnut 01-28-2019 07:59 PM

Yeah i think the defense johnny robinson came from need a few more players in the hall.

gblowfish 01-28-2019 08:03 PM

Guy was bad ass. He was my Grandma Cookie's favorite player because she loved the LSU Tigers, and he played on the 1958 Championship team. He played Superbowl IV with three broken ribs. Imagine that in today's NFL. He would have never been allowed to suit up. And, he's served Louisiana with a Boy's Home for the last 38 years, doing good for his home folks. Just a sterling guy. Shame he's had to wait so long to be honored. Story from the KC Star is here:

https://www.kansascity.com/sports/sp...216900215.html

scho63 01-28-2019 09:55 PM

I used to pretend to be him when I intercepted a pass playing football in the neighborhood back in the early 70's.

Also pretended to be Ed Podolak when rushing.

Al Czervik 01-28-2019 09:58 PM

Loved Johnny R.......
Wore 42 for many of my football years growing up!!!!

ChiTown 01-29-2019 08:12 AM

I won't rest until Otis Taylor's bust rests in Canton.

MatriculatingHank 01-29-2019 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiTown (Post 14078859)
I won't rest until Otis Taylor's bust rests in Canton.

It will probably take his death and them feeling remorseful.
Sad but true...

oldman 01-29-2019 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiTown (Post 14078859)
I won't rest until Otis Taylor's bust rests in Canton.

Agreed. It's a travesty that OT isn't in the Hall.
But that is great news about Johnny. He should have been there long ago.

htismaqe 01-29-2019 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by gblowfish (Post 14078423)
Guy was bad ass. He was my Grandma Cookie's favorite player because she loved the LSU Tigers, and he played on the 1958 Championship team. He played Superbowl IV with three broken ribs. Imagine that in today's NFL. He would have never been allowed to suit up. And, he's served Louisiana with a Boy's Home for the last 38 years, doing good for his home folks. Just a sterling guy. Shame he's had to wait so long to be honored. Story from the KC Star is here:

https://www.kansascity.com/sports/sp...216900215.html

This is why we love you George. Your grandma's name was "Cookie".

gblowfish 01-29-2019 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 14078959)
This is why we love you George. Your grandma's name was "Cookie".

My dad's mom's nickname was Cookie. She was born in a shack with no electricity or running water near Rock Port, MO. She was a school teacher, then married my Grandpa Jim who was a right handed pitcher and played for the Kansas City Streetcar Company (now the KC ATA). She became a home maker had four kids (my dad was second oldest) and she helped my Aunt Margaret study and graduate from CMSU (now Univ of Central MO). Margaret was the first in the family to graduate college in the late 1960s. Grandma Cookie used to babysit my sister and me when we were little in Raytown. She used to like to listen to WHB and we'd get the Top 40 countdown at Katz Drug every week. She loved Pepsi Cola, Johnny Cash, Roy Orbison, the Royals and Chiefs. And Johnny Robinson was her favorite player.

R Clark 01-29-2019 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by gblowfish (Post 14079071)
My dad's mom's nickname was Cookie. She was born in a shack with no electricity or running water near Rock Port, MO. She was a school teacher, then married my Grandpa Jim who was a right handed pitcher and played for the Kansas City Streetcar Company (now the KC ATA). She became a home maker had four kids (my dad was second oldest) and she helped my Aunt Margaret study and graduate from CMSU (now Univ of Central MO). Margaret was the first in the family to graduate college in the late 1960s. Grandma Cookie used to babysit my sister and me when we were little in Raytown. She used to like to listen to WHB and we'd get the Top 40 countdown at Katz Drug every week. She loved Pepsi Cola, Johnny Cash, Roy Orbison, the Royals and Chiefs. And Johnny Robinson was her favorite player.

Sounds like a fine woman with good taste.and pretty cool gma

Al Czervik 01-29-2019 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiTown (Post 14078859)
I won't rest until Otis Taylor's bust rests in Canton.

THIS......Absolutely

MahiMike 01-29-2019 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by scho63 (Post 14078601)
I used to pretend to be him when I intercepted a pass playing football in the neighborhood back in the early 70's.

Also pretended to be Ed Podolak when rushing.

Was gonna post this exact thing.

excessive 01-30-2019 07:07 PM

https://www.kansascity.com/sports/sp...225302485.html

Chiefs great Johnny Robinson should finally get that Hall of Fame call Saturday

BY VAHE GREGORIAN

JANUARY 30, 2019

In Johnny Robinson’s perfect world, the Chiefs would have beaten New England in the Jan. 20 AFC Championship Game to reach the Super Bowl — in itself something that would delight their former star safety.

Moreover, they’d thus be in Atlanta on Saturday to neatly converge with his vigil to at last be summoned into the Pro Football Hall of Fame.

That afternoon, this year’s sole senior finalist will be clad in a beautiful new suit and fidgeting along with family in his hotel room awaiting the verdict of the full 48-person selection committee — which also will be deliberating the case of former Chief tight end Tony Gonzalez as one of the modern-era finalists.

If there is justice in this process and Robinson gets 80 percent or more of the votes in his favor, Hall of Fame president David Baker — and a film crew to record it for posterity — will be rapping at his door.

“You don’t want a call; you want a knock,” Bob Thompson, Robinson’s step-son, said Tuesday. “A call is for the ones who don’t make it.”

For mercy’s sake, this must happen for someone so deserving.

Someone who has waited … so … long for proper recognition.


Not to mention someone who continues to make a profound difference in the world since the end of his life in football, even at 80 years old and having suffered from an unfathomable number of health issues.

Bobby Bell, Robinson’s teammate who in 1983 became the first of 11 Chiefs (including Lamar Hunt and Hank Stram) to be inducted into the Hall of Fame, is distressed by the notion of someone waiting for a knock that never comes.

But Bell also knows that nearly every senior candidate has been accepted, particularly in years when only one is nominated.

“I’m pretty sure we’re going to have a lot of fun in Canton,” Bell said.

The last time a solo senior wasn’t ushered in was 1997, when Jerry Kramer was snubbed only to finally be admitted last year. Kramer’s induction left Robinson the only remaining player not yet in Canton to have appeared on a Hall of Fame-produced poster in the Robinson family den that depicts the best players of the 1960s in the AFL and NFL.

Just “saving the best for last,” as Thompson likes to put it — along with the notion that had this happened sooner, it would have interfered with God’s plan for Robinson to dedicate his life to helping troubled and endangered youths.

A DAZZLING RESUME
While having the Chiefs there would have made this week more fun for Robinson and his family, their absence in the Super Bowl for the 49th straight time since playing in two of the first four serves to accentuate and amplify what distinguished Robinson.

His resume is dazzling, the context momentous as the rudder of a defense that included Hall of Famers Bell, Buck Buchanan, Curley Culp, Emmitt Thomas and Willie Lanier.

“He was like a quarterback back there, and a coach,” Bell said. “He put us all in the right places.”

His body of work would bestride the AFL (as one of only 20 players to play in all 10 years of the league) and NFL at a time of enormous change in the very structure of the game. Most notably, that included his remarkable performance in the flashpoint of Super Bowl IV, which added luster to the Jets victory over Baltimore the year before and affirmed that the upstart AFL belonged in the NFL with the merger pending.

Even entering that game, Robinson had long demonstrated a knack for rising to the occasion in the most defining moments — going back to playing a key supporting role to Heisman Trophy winner Billy Cannon in LSU’s 1958 national title run.

In 10 years as a safety after two as a running back as an original Chief/Dallas Texan in 1960, Robinson snagged 57 interceptions that had a way of mattering: The team was 35-1-1 when he plucked one, and he seldom was better than when everything was at stake for a franchise that won three AFL titles and a Super Bowl.

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Former Kansas City Chiefs player Johnny Robinson gets the crowd pumped up by beating the team drum before the start of Sunday’s football game on October 28, 2018 at Arrowhead Stadium in Kansas City, Mo.
John Sleezer jsleezer@kcstar.com
In the 20-17 overtime victory over Houston in the 1962 AFL title game, for instance, Robinson had two interceptions for 50 yards in returns. He had a pivotal pickoff against Buffalo in the 1966 AFL title game, returning a Jack Kemp pass 72 yards from the end zone to avert a halftime tie on the way to a 31-7 victory.

Albeit in a 35-10 loss, he had 11 solo tackles in the subsequent first Super Bowl against Green Bay.

Then there was Super Bowl IV.

“We had a lot to prove in that game,” Robinson said Tuesday, “and we did prove it.”

In the 23-7 victory over Minnesota, Robinson recovered a fumble — commemorated with an iconic Sports Illustrated photo of Robinson seated on the ground holding the ball aloft — as the Chiefs were putting together a 16-0 halftime lead. He had a fourth-quarter interception to help snuff out any potential rally.

All while somehow playing with three broken ribs he had suffered the week before in the AFL title game against Oakland.

With only a week between games, Robinson couldn’t even practice before kickoff in New Orleans. Unless you count a scene Thompson recalled learning of from the day before the game:

Stram took Robinson out on the field at Tulane Stadium and threw a ball over his head to see if he could reach up and catch it. He grabbed it and said, “I can go, Hank.”

It wasn’t quite that simple, though. As Thompson understands it, Robinson received a Novocaine shot mid-week that didn’t agree with his system and left him woozy. So that wasn’t going to help.

But with the help of Robinson’s brother, Tom, an ophthalmologist, and a Saints team doctor, they found an alternative painkiller. If you can call it that when they give you 26 shots of the stuff all over your body and you’re left looking like “a pin cushion,” as Robinson has described it over the years.

“They wrapped him with every bit of tape they had in the … training room,” Thompson said, adding, “Pure guts and determination.”

Robinson didn’t miss a snap, though he was required to sit on the bench next to the surgeon after every series to be monitored lest a pesky rib punctured a lung.

SIX TIMES A BRIDESMAID
This seems like highly inadvisable stuff now, and not exactly something to endorse.

Nevertheless, it certainly speaks to what made Robinson special. Something that stands out all the more as the Chiefs’ Super Bowl drought continues and we’re left to appreciate the last time and what it took.

Robinson was jilted six times as a finalist in the 1980s, a “disgrace,” as Stram once put it. Back then, though, there remained some conflict about how to process the AFL years, some backlash against it and a perception that too many Chiefs on that defense already had been honored.

“They passed up a lot of guys from our time,” Bell said.

None more glaringly than Robinson, whom the Hall of Fame’s Baker has told they’ve had a place reserved for a long time as Robinson stands at this altar — a knock on the door from a sort of Heaven on Earth.

He’ll look sharp in his suit while he waits, Thompson said. And if things go the way they should, on Monday morning he’ll be getting measured for his Hall of Fame jacket and a bust in Canton.

“Hopefully,” Robinson said, “I’ll make a good Hall of Famer.”

38yrsfan 01-30-2019 07:38 PM

I surely remember Robinson. Great player and deserves the induction.

Rain Man 01-30-2019 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by R Clark (Post 14079082)
Sounds like a fine woman with good taste.and pretty cool gma

Cookie has good taste. I see what you did there.

gblowfish 01-31-2019 07:56 PM

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Johnny is in Atlanta. They'll announce who gets selected on Saturday. Here he is at the Atlanta VIP hotel meeting up with Willie Lanier.

R Clark 01-31-2019 08:14 PM

Just think what this defence would be with that pair on it!!

KChiefs1 07-26-2019 07:16 AM

Anyone going to Canton next weekend?

scho63 07-26-2019 07:57 AM

Nice bump and great thread GBlowfish!

KChiefs1 08-01-2019 08:42 PM

Chiefs vs Colts in 1970 on the 2nd MNF game.

Johnny had a helluva game.

https://youtu.be/B-b71cHlrFs

srvy 08-01-2019 09:16 PM

Al Michaels just wasnt gonna let anyone talk much about Johnny Robinson. He kept cutting them off in the tail end of a boring preseason game.

alanm 08-01-2019 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by KChiefs1 (Post 14374602)
Chiefs vs Colts in 1970 on the 2nd MNF game.

Johnny had a helluva game.

https://youtu.be/B-b71cHlrFs

Where the hell did you find this at? I was 12 the last time I saw this game. :eek:

KChiefs1 08-02-2019 06:57 AM

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Originally Posted by alanm (Post 14374720)
Where the hell did you find this at? I was 12 the last time I saw this game. :eek:


YouTube is a wonderful thing.

KChiefs1 08-03-2019 05:57 PM

That was a great presentation by Johnny.

Misplaced_Chiefs_Fan 08-03-2019 07:04 PM

Fantastic job, Johnny. Just sorry it took so long for you to get there.


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