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Dante84 02-22-2019 05:46 PM

Chiefs sign EJ Manuel, Sammie Coates & 2 others
 
EJ Manuel - not Gaines. My bad.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Chiefs announce a handful of free agent signings: <br><br>WR Sammie Coates<br>WR Davon Grayson<br>DB Dontae Johnson<br>QB E.J. Manuel</p>&mdash; Brooke Pryor (@bepryor) <a href="https://twitter.com/bepryor/status/1099083784476073984?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 22, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

The Franchise 02-22-2019 05:47 PM

EJ Manuel....not EJ Gaines.

Munson 02-22-2019 05:47 PM

Championship!

TwistedChief 02-22-2019 05:47 PM

EJ Manuel is not EJ Gaines.

TwistedChief 02-22-2019 05:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TwistedChief (Post 14120269)
EJ Manuel is not EJ Gaines.

The shock of that mis-post wearing off...

I like Manuel more than Henne as our backup.

Frosty 02-22-2019 05:54 PM

Sammie Coates? Cool, we got our replacement for Kelvin Benjamin.

threebag 02-22-2019 05:54 PM

Loading up for a run boys

Chief Northman 02-22-2019 05:57 PM

Q

But I get starting a new thread.

Dante84 02-22-2019 05:58 PM

****, sorry guys. Updated on my end, mods please adjust if needed.

In58men 02-22-2019 05:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chief Northman (Post 14120280)
Q

But I get starting a new thread.

You god damn right it’s a Q

Flying High D 02-22-2019 06:02 PM

Signing while Cheatriots are supporting human trafficking.

CasselGotPeedOn 02-22-2019 06:04 PM

Hopefully Manuel gets a fair shot to start

Chief Northman 02-22-2019 06:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TwistedChief (Post 14120273)
The shock of that mis-post wearing off...

I like Manuel more than Henne as our backup.

EJ Manuel does have WCO experience, is reportedly liked by teammates, and can be a solid camp arm, but I doubt he beats out Henne/Litton. EJ has some of the worst pocket awareness I’ve ever seen....

Hog's Gone Fishin 02-22-2019 06:09 PM

None of it excites me

Simply Red 02-22-2019 06:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TwistedChief (Post 14120269)
EJ Manuel is not EJ Gaines.

it's a new guy - EJ Manuel Gaines - very similar to OBJ, Get pumped!

TwistedChief 02-22-2019 06:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chief Northman (Post 14120288)
EJ Manuel does have WCO experience, is reportedly liked by teammates, and can be a solid camp arm, but I doubt he beats out Henne/Litton. EJ has some of the worst pocket awareness I’ve ever seen....

Sure. But is that perhaps because we don’t have much recent tape on Henne’s pocket awareness?

Realistically, who cares. If Manuel or Henne ever plays a snap outside of Week 17, this team is ****ed.

Simply Red 02-22-2019 06:14 PM

is Sammie Coates as good as Samie Parker was?

Simply Red 02-22-2019 06:16 PM

Looks like Grayson ran a 4.51 - not too shabby for his build

Iconic 02-22-2019 06:17 PM

Damn Coates has some wheels I actually like that signing a lot. He was shelved in PITT because he had like 33939393 other guys in front of him but he's had some flashes.

Simply Red 02-22-2019 06:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iconic (Post 14120300)
Damn Coates has some wheels I actually like that signing a lot. He was shelved in PITT because he had like 33939393 other guys in front of him but he's had some flashes.

oh yes - I remember him now

Simply Red 02-22-2019 06:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iconic (Post 14120300)
Damn Coates has some wheels I actually like that signing a lot. He was shelved in PITT because he had like 33939393 other guys in front of him but he's had some flashes.

really the best of the four, most likely - looking at this 'right now'

TwistedChief 02-22-2019 06:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Simply Red (Post 14120296)
is Sammie Coates as good as Samie Parker was?

I read some deep statistical analysis which concluded that the number of m’s in the name was significant in defining success. Veach gets it. It was apparently one of the main reasons he didn’t sign Samy Watkins from Southeastern Louisiana Technical Institute.

TwistedChief 02-22-2019 06:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iconic (Post 14120300)
Damn Coates has some wheels I actually like that signing a lot. He was shelved in PITT because he had like 33939393 other guys in front of him but he's had some flashes.

This is absolutely the Mahomes effect. Conley is gone. Could Coates beat out D-Rob or Dieter as our number 3? God, yes. And Watkins is so expendable cap-wise beyond this season that we’re an obvious destination for ‘fallen angel’ WRs.

Simply Red 02-22-2019 06:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TwistedChief (Post 14120308)
This is absolutely the Mahomes effect. Conley is gone. Could Coates beat out D-Rob or Dieter as our number 3? God, yes. And Watkins is so expendable cap-wise beyond this season that we’re an obvious destination for ‘fallen angel’ WRs.


Is it a stretch that Coates could be as good as Martavis Bryant? - he's had better games 'statistically' - when both of them played - IIRC

Frosty 02-22-2019 06:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iconic (Post 14120300)
Damn Coates has some wheels I actually like that signing a lot. He was shelved in PITT because he had like 33939393 other guys in front of him but he's had some flashes.

He spent two years in Pittsburgh doing nothing before being traded to Cleveland where he caught a whopping 6 passes in a season. Then spent most of last year in Houston where he caught one whole pass before being cut in week 12. To quote Billay - he's trash.

KC Hawks 02-22-2019 06:33 PM

Is EJ cuter than Henne?

Frosty 02-22-2019 06:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Simply Red (Post 14120317)
Is it a stretch that Coates could be as good as Martavis Bryant? - he's had better games 'statistically' - when both of them played - IIRC

LMAO

pugsnotdrugs19 02-22-2019 06:36 PM

Feel like Coates has upside, especially with Mahomes.

Indicator that they aren’t planning to put significant dollars into new WRs.

kysirsoze 02-22-2019 06:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CasselGotPeedOn (Post 14120287)
Hopefully Manuel gets a fair shot to start

LMAO

Simply Red 02-22-2019 06:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frosty (Post 14120321)
LMAO

I'm thinking of JJS - my error. :(

Simply Red 02-22-2019 06:39 PM

But Coates is certainly better than Conley, I'd imagine.

pugsnotdrugs19 02-22-2019 06:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Simply Red (Post 14120328)
But Coates is certainly better than Conley, I'd imagine.

More explosive for certain, hands aren’t as good.

Red Dawg 02-22-2019 06:46 PM

One of them won't be on the 53 but this how you get a solid group that can help when injuries occur.

Frosty 02-22-2019 06:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Simply Red (Post 14120328)
But Coates is certainly better than Conley, I'd imagine.

If he is, he hasn't shown it in four seasons.

Simply Red 02-22-2019 06:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Red Dawg (Post 14120342)
One of them won't be on the 53 but this how you get a solid group that can help when injuries occur.

thank you

Deberg_1990 02-22-2019 06:51 PM

Pre-season fodder?

pugsnotdrugs19 02-22-2019 06:52 PM

Coates had 20.7 YPC the one season he played a decent bit in Pittsburgh.

Hands aren’t reliable but he is explosive at times. Which to me is perfect with Pat.

Chief Northman 02-22-2019 07:00 PM

Demetrius Harris has way better hands than Coates.

Let that sink in.

Red Dawg 02-22-2019 07:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chief Northman (Post 14120361)
Demetrius Harris has way better hands than Coates.

Let that sink in.

Hands get better when you get the ball. Coates hasn't really that chance.

MAHOMO 4 LIFE! 02-22-2019 07:15 PM

Coates I watched in College at Auburn. He is very explosive but sometimes takes plays off and his hands aren’t the best. He’s a upgrade over Benjamin

Simply Red 02-22-2019 07:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC Hawks (Post 14120320)
Is EJ cuter than Henne?

about the same

TrebMaxx 02-22-2019 07:31 PM

Dontae Johnson could be serviceable with a big IF he has recovered from his hip injury.

Coochie liquor 02-22-2019 07:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Simply Red (Post 14120293)
it's a new guy - EJ Manuel Gaines - very similar to OBJ, Get pumped!

Like Willie Mays-Hayes??

Tribal Warfare 02-22-2019 10:06 PM

http://www.nfl.com/draft/2015/profil...tes?id=2552470

Coates was a SPARQ hero.

Simply Red 02-22-2019 11:05 PM

didn't EJ Manuel beat us one time in Arrowhead?

Buehler445 02-22-2019 11:48 PM

I remember Coates making some giant ass plays. I had forgotten him altogether with all that Brown drama.

Chris Meck 02-22-2019 11:56 PM

It's amazing what some scouts and GM's think a first round QB prospect is, isn't it? I mean, really?

Tribal Warfare 02-23-2019 12:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 14120622)
I remember Coates making some giant ass plays. I had forgotten him altogether with all that Brown drama.

https://steelerswire.usatoday.com/20...down-steelers/

bargain bin FA that will be battling for the #3 spot

Chiefs Moon 02-23-2019 07:22 AM

If his hands are inconsistent, he's useless other than providing competition at camp.

ILChief 02-23-2019 07:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 14120350)
Pre-season fodder?

Most likely

chiefzilla1501 02-23-2019 07:57 AM

Really love bringing Coates in for competition. Dude can fly.

Not sure what the excitement is all about with ej manuel. I wonder how Sammy Watkins feels considering a big reason the bills benched him was because he kept hanging receivers out to dry with his inaccuracy. Also not sure why people don't like Henne as a backup. I actually think he's a great fit for Reid's system.

Simply Red 02-23-2019 08:11 AM

Did we sign any other pieces of shit, over night?

ILChief 02-23-2019 08:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 14120748)
Really love bringing Coates in for competition. Dude can fly.

Not sure what the excitement is all about with ej manuel. I wonder how Sammy Watkins feels considering a big reason the bills benched him was because he kept hanging receivers out to dry with his inaccuracy. Also not sure why people don't like Henne as a backup. I actually think he's a great fit for Reid's system.

I liked what I saw from chase Litten in the preseason. I’d be shocked if EJ made the team

Bwana 02-23-2019 08:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chief Northman (Post 14120361)
Demetrius Harris has way better hands than Coates.

Let that sink in.

I really hope that's not the case, because stone hands needs to go away.

Hydrae 02-23-2019 08:47 AM

Maybe signing Coates is an indication that they will move ahead with trying to move Benjamin to TE to replace Harris. :shrug:

chiefzilla1501 02-23-2019 08:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bwana (Post 14120766)
I really hope that's not the case, because stone hands needs to go away.

Stone hands. But unlike Harris and Benjamin, he can get separation.

TEX 02-23-2019 09:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hydrae (Post 14120777)
Maybe signing Coates is an indication that they will move ahead with trying to move Benjamin to TE to replace Harris. :shrug:



:hmmm:

Sully 02-23-2019 09:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Red Dawg (Post 14120362)
Hands get better when you get the ball. Coates hasn't really that chance.

Wut

Sent from my SM-N960U using Tapatalk

SAUTO 02-23-2019 09:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hydrae (Post 14120777)
Maybe signing Coates is an indication that they will move ahead with trying to move Benjamin to TE to replace Harris. :shrug:

Is Benjamin still under contract?

Chief Northman 02-23-2019 10:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SAUTO (Post 14120831)
Is Benjamin still under contract?

No. Free agent

Chief Northman 02-23-2019 10:22 AM

Darius Heyward-Bey is better than Coates.

pugsnotdrugs19 02-23-2019 11:15 AM

It’s not like they signed any of these guys with the expectation that they will make the 53 man roster. But I can appreciate taking chances on guys who have some form of talent that is above average, like Coates’ speed for example.

If it works out, awesome. If not, oh well.

tmax63 02-23-2019 12:13 PM

I kind of like those guys that have areas of excellence but failed at their first stop. Failure means they've been somewhere and "know the deal". You'll get their absolute best effort to perform so they can stay in the league and pursue their dream. You can't always polish a turd but if they've got something above average in the physical toolkit to work with then some blossom.

chiefzilla1501 02-23-2019 12:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sully (Post 14120815)
Wut

Sent from my SM-N960U using Tapatalk

It's actually an interesting point. Hard to get touches in the WR logjam in Houston and especially Pittsburgh. Had total shit at qb in Cleveland. I don't think his stone hands can be fixed. But theres that tiny chance that consistent reps can help with focus.

ChiefsCountry 02-23-2019 12:25 PM

Hopefully Andy Reid can do his magic on Manuel and we can flip him to some stupid franchise like the Chiefs used to be.

Warrick 02-23-2019 12:28 PM

Johnson spent time with the 49ers, Seattle, Bills, Browns, and Cardinals... Is his hip issues still present? The kid has a lot of potential if he's healthy.

chiefzilla1501 02-23-2019 12:34 PM

What's the scouting report on Grayson? Maybe a good sign that the Chiefs thought highly enough of him to give him a second shot.

InChiefsHeaven 02-23-2019 12:39 PM

Pat makes everyone better. So, these guys...who knows?? Could be a real jewel in Coates.

King_Chief_Fan 02-23-2019 12:40 PM

JAGS

Easy 6 02-23-2019 03:00 PM

Coates is intriguing, but EJ Manuel?

LULZ

Has he even been the league these last several years? I have to assume he is just a camp arm

Angry fan 02-23-2019 07:09 PM

Remember when Warren Sapp was hyping up EJ Manuel in the pre season on the NFL Network before he got caught with his pants down with a hooker. Good times.

Angry fan 02-23-2019 07:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chief Northman (Post 14120846)
Darius Heyward-Bey is better than Coates.

Heyward-Bey, Al Davis guy. Is he still Al Davis satisfactory fast?

Chiefshrink 02-23-2019 07:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 14120952)
Hopefully Andy Reid can do his magic on Manuel and we can flip him to some stupid franchise like the Chiefs used to be.

Andy moonlighting on the side. I like it.:thumb: Andy is the QB whisperer:D

Eleazar 02-23-2019 07:34 PM

EJ Manuel! What a coup!

Chiefs land another CP draft hero on the cheap!

TribalElder 02-23-2019 08:07 PM

Didn’t Coates and Watkins play together at Auburn?

ILChief 02-23-2019 08:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TribalElder (Post 14121485)
Didn’t Coates and Watkins play together at Auburn?

Watkins went to Clemson

TribalElder 02-23-2019 09:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ILChief (Post 14121509)
Watkins went to Clemson

Thanks, that’s my bad

Titty Meat 02-23-2019 10:38 PM

Meh Manuel is trash I really like Litton actually. Wish he could have played in the AAF

KChiefs1 02-24-2019 12:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Titty Meat (Post 14121649)
Meh Manuel is trash I really like Litton actually. Wish he could have played in the AAF


That’s the biggest fail in the AAF. Each team should be allowed to have a QB from an NFL team.

It would be great for the player & the AAF.

Redbled 02-24-2019 02:05 AM

Except for the part where they can remove heads.


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