Adderall
 

Who's on it?

I have been on it for three months now (prescribed), and the shit has been life changing. So much more focused and motivated. I know it gets a bad rep, and is widely abused, but I think the pros outweigh the cons with this one.

What say you?

When used correctly and balanced--all good.

Tough to find that balance on a middle school student. Glad it is working for you.

I have been thinking about it but have no idea how to ask for it. I dont do drugs at all and I think just asking might make my Doc think weird things. Curious, how did you go about it?

Girlfriend's daughter is supposed to take it. I wish she would start again, we've had a cop show up at our door 4 times in the last three years for something stupid she has done...and she's only 16. When she's on it she's a great kid but she refuses to take it like she's supposed to.

It's hard on the sinuses after a while.

I have dealt with depression for about ten years. I am currently on prozac too. I just brought it up to my doctor that I was lacking energy/motivation, especially in the winter months. So we gave it a shot. It has been great. In my experience the instant release version works better than the extended release. I am currently on the extended, but will mention to my doctor about getting back on the IR.

Feels like a small dosage of coke to me. Never had a Rx for it, my best friend did while in college.

Coming down off of it is goddamn terrible, feels like that dehydration, hangover feel.

Comedown/withdraws are the worst part. Luckily I am pretty much out of work when those happen tho.

Lots of adult adhd diagnosis these days. If you drop a few low energy and lack of focus hints to your doctor, and he doesn’t pick up in it, you might see if there is a specialist in your area that prescribes

It’s a little shady and quacky and basically very similar to docs who operate “pill mills” but most towns have a doc known for weight loss and/or adult ADHD whose job is basically to prescribe adderall and other “lifestyle enhancement” drugs for patients.

Its the energy/motivation part I'm interested in. I have been a workaholic all my life. Since turning 50 I have really started slacking. Mid afternoon I could fall asleep standing up. I have started procrastinating and working shorter days. I would love to get back to my old self. I know a few guys that tried it and they sure seem to like it.

If you’re having comedowns and withdrawals from it, then you’re likely taking more than prescribed dosage (which is very common as a lot of people with and without scrips for it use it as a party aid or to pull all nighter study/work sessions).

You should have your T levels tested.

Jesus man. Prozac is downright terrible for you...really any of those SSRI drugs are bad. Especially when you become dependent on them. Rx's never cure anything, they just help manage (some) symptoms, and they're designed to turn patients into customers so you keep coming back for more.

No different than your regular ol Joe street dealer, except FDA/DEA make it legal.

I dunno what's gone on in your life to make you take those drugs or become depressed...we all have issues, but you know what snaps you out of that....eating better and exercising. Having sex will help too.

I would definitely recommend. Or provigil/modafinil. But Adderall is much cheaper, and in my opinion more effective.

Does Adderall effect your sex drive in either direction?

Increases libido for sure, like most other stimulants. It's, literally, amphetamine.

I had that checked 3-4 years ago, it was really low. They gave me something (I cant remember) but you rubbed it on your shoulders. Very expensive and did not seem to have any effect.

Depends on the person. My buddy loves having sex while cracked out on it, or on coke.

Me ...I just can't do it...can't perform worth a shit while on it.

Marijuana on the other hand...turns me into a sexual tyrannosaur.

Fortesta/Androgel?

My buddy's dad is on that, says it works like a charm. Depends on the person I guess.

Yeah, Androgel. That was it. Didnt seem to work for me.

I tried XR for almost 1 month and holy shit was it insane. My heart rate jumped from the high 60’s to high 90’s, I wasn’t hungry, and I noticed I was far more irritable.

I’m not sure how I feel about taking it. I mean that has to be terrible for you long term right?

I’m more interested in taking a non-stimulant like Strattera.

Did you talk to the doctor about adjusting your dosage?

I'm not saying that you need to get back on it, but that really isn't the "normal" experience of a person with a proper dosage (well, not the super high heart rate and irritability at least. Loss of appetite is common).

Of course, it also affects people who actually NEED it (clinical ADHD) differently than people who are just taking it to try to increase performance. That's why a lot of people who have ADHD dislike taking it, because it evens them out and often makes them feel calm/boring compared to how they normally feel, whereas people without ADHD who take it feel focused, energized, and sometimes hyper from it.

I respect your opinion. I do need to work on eating better, and yes exercising helps lift your mood. However, I have tried getting off the meds and just focused on exercising/eating healthier. Simply doing just those two things doesn't work for everyone, if you have a chemical imbalance. Especially in the winter months, when SAD occurs.

Prozac has been a life saver, Adderall has also helped tremendously. Everyone is different tho.

If those meds help you thats all you need to care about. Good on you for getting the help you need.
Have you tried the light therapy box for SAD?

Withdrawals occurred after I got off it the first time, which was IR. Comedowns aren't terrible, just like a caffeine comedown. And I do take my prescribed dose, I just noticed it is worse if I also have caffeine. So i try not to mix the two.

Its the chicken or the egg?

Exercise brings energy/motivation.

Takes energy/motivation to exercise.

I do 40 minutes a day! Only been doing it a week tho, have noticed some improvement. Any experience/tips with it?

Sorry, no experience with it I was just aware that it is a treatment used for SAD. Hope it helps you.

My bad thought this was about a safety in the draft.

I've grabbed a few from *legal* friends. It helps me. I don't want to take 30mg a day or anything, but I'm in a demanding field and it's good that one night you really need to bang out some work... just don't get addicted.

You're a ****ing idiot

It is. Reggie Adderall. Laser focus.

I usually have to go to the doctor once a year for back pain and he'll prescribe me some hydrocodone. When I take one I can REALLY focus on whatever I'm doing. like if i'm painting trim on a rental I can cut that paint in perfectly. I could see where it would be easy to get hooked. I'd take one every day if I could but I know thats not good anyway . I only get about 15 a year.

Frequently used it to study during finals week in college. Loved it, but it was very addicting. Began to use it for work and then stopped once I realized that I felt horrible without it.

Maybe why it requires a prescription :)

It helps everyone who takes it, but unless you truly have ADD it won't be life changing.

Ive taken Modafinil on rare occasions and it also is much much safer than adderal. Adderall feels literally like you are on drugs. Modafinil doesn't, it just gives you a general sense of wakefulness & concentration.

It's just too bad they don't make a drug for that..

I’m really interested in Hamas’ viewpoint on this discussion. I know he’s the chemistry guy who knows all this shit

I'm sure there's some filthy breath, triffling teeth and pychosis issues in your future if you get strung out on this crap.

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The top image is Adderall, the bottom is methamphetamine. Of course it makes you feel better and more energetic. The only difference between the two drugs is a methyl group on the latter, which gives it more lipid solubility and thus a longer residence in the brain.

Yeah that’s the problem with anything that makes you feel better, perform better, alters your mood. Just like a medication for BP, it masks but does not correct the underlying problem. So it’s addictive, because who doesn’t want to feel better all the time. Unfortunately the brain can develop a tolerance and gradually it can require more and more to achieve the same effect, increasing the likelihood of side effects on other organ systems. That being said, some really benefit. But the abuse potential is so great. I’ve seen many young people who took it just to get an edge in their studies who ultimately became completely strung out on it, panicky, hypertensive, tachycardic, etc.

Need to do some “research “ can you send me some please? Could return the favor with some legit medical marijuana.

It terrifies the every living **** out of me to alter brain chemistry.

I have a friend that is a hookup and I take adderall on business trips when I know I'll be doing a lot of driving and not getting much sleep at night. I suppose it would be easier to just get a script but I just never got around to it.

It helped me a lot, until it didn't. There are 1-2 uncommon "side" effects in particular you wouldn't care for, if you get a script so you can be more attentive use the lowest possible dose.

Me too, especially after the experience I had with a low dose.

I’m going to start things I can control to help

-make sure blood levels are good
-get more sleep
-excercise more
-eat a healthier diet aka cut down processed garbage
-more omega 3

I’ve read that those things are critical and could really help as a more natural option.

Addict/Alcoholic/Mental mess guy checking in. I got put on Strattera for ADHD and placebo or not there are times I can't believe I am remembering stuff. When I worked at blockbuster people seriously thought I was reeruned and worked on some sort of special program to employ special kids because I couldn't remember or do shit. When I got prescribed some meds for depression and ADHD medicine and makes me want to kick the shit out of teachers or people for calling me stupid or lazy when if I had those meds I could have done way better in school.

Remember reading an article a few years back about linking heavy amounts of Adderall usage in the military with the high veteran suicide rate. Theory being that it sort of "burns in" more intense memories and feelings during a period where people are undergoing high levels of stress, causing more severe PTSD and/or depression.

Have you gained weight too? Maybe you need a sleep study to see if you could benefit from a cpap.

What kind of experience did you have?

What things have you done to try to help your depression over the years?

So acceptable alternative to coke dick or nah?

I suppose you don't smoke, drink alcohol, use caffeine?

Of course you think the stuff's great man, you're high on speed! Generic version reads "amphetamine salts."

FWIW, Strattera has a different mechanism of action. It prevents reuptake of norepinephrine, which raises circulating levels in your body.

My daughter is hooked on it. Avoid this crap.

No Nicotine.

I've drank probably 6 beers in the last year.

Drink the shit out of coffee.

I get you, but if you're going to assert that caffeine = adderall, I don't really know that we can have a reasonable discussion.

You asserted that changing your brain chemistry terrifies you. I am not at all saying that the drugs are equal

Pretty sure it's just meth, but made in a lab instead of somebody's trailer.

If any of you taking it and find that your hands, feet, and dick are cold, consider taking a natural vasodilator. I'm not saying take viagra, but something that will mildly help with blood circulation. I've found it helps keep me from getting tension headaches as much as well. I've used Arginine for this. It would never have occurred to me to do this, but my friend in med school does this to keep from having the icy grip of death.

Also, raised libido with constricted blood flow makes things frustrating at times.

Good to know our medical professionals are popping Adderall and Viagra.

I'm not sure what the problem with that would be. They are humans. I would rather my doctor be high on adderall during a long rotation than exhausted.

It's a derivate - dexmethamphetamine.

It's poison.

Indeed. I had to tinker with my dosages for a spell when I started but once I got dialed in on what works I have been crushing it. That was a number of years ago. i fought it all through adolescence and college. Looking back, if I had known that my brain needed this stuff to function in modern society and how big of an impact it would really have, I would have done things differently. People get all jacked up on it and it just makes me want to kill some spread sheets and do some deep dive research down the rabbit hole.

The real question is: who’s microdosing? ;)

Why? You do it every time you drink alcohol?

Fact is, my brain doesn't function the way other people's do. Period. My underlying problem IS my brain chemistry. My brain jumps into and out of a variety of material at any given moment in time. Holding a thought is easy for almost everybody but for me, I'll randomly dive down a rabbit hole in my own brain during a conversation or staff meeting only to emerge from my internal thoughts 30 minutes later wondering WTF I just missed. The upside is that I come up with great and creative ideas. The downside is that I missed a ton of shit. When you're in school, brains like that are punished. Aggressively.

I've heard all of the nonsense about food, drink, exercise, self-discipline and it's all bullshit coming from people who don't cope with what I cope with. You might as well tell a fish not to swim. It's baseless and stupid.

I don't think anybody wants to do that shit. But it did make me actually WANT to learn about music history in college. And I hated that class.

I've taken it a couple of times as an adult, and it just hasn't had as strong of an effect as it did when I was in college/younger. Might have been the dose, though.

Guys, I don't mean to sound alarmist here, but be aware:

"First when looking at meth vs. Adderall is the chemical makeup of each, which is very similar. They have minimal differences in their chemical makeup, but methamphetamine does have more of something called methyl, which is important in this discussion because it lets the drug cross the blood-brain barrier more quickly. This leads to a more powerful effect.

There’s also something else important to understand when comparing meth vs. Adderall and that’s the fact that meth has a lot of toxic chemicals that can cause brain, liver, kidney and lung damage, among other physical and mental side effects and problems.

At the same time, many of the negative side effects of Adderall and meth are similar to one another. These include irritability, the potential for problems with the cardiovascular system, and excessive weight loss. With chronic Adderall use, effects can include not only addiction but also hostility, depression, and paranoia.

So, to sum up meth vs. Adderall: both drugs do have some similarities to one another. They do act on the brain in a similar way, but meth tends to be more potent because of certain differences in its chemical structure and how quickly it passes the blood-brain barrier. You’re also more likely to become addicted to meth more quickly because of the small differences, but there is a potential for addiction with Adderall as well."

https://www.therecoveryvillage.com/m...adderall/#gref

I’ve been on it for about 5 years now; wish I’d gotten it 30 years ago.

Is it really safe to mix adderall and viagra?

There's no interaction.

Somebody warn Sauto’s woman to be on her toes.

You probably need medication. I'm just saying it terrifies me.

My stupid halfa brain is the only ****ing thing on my body that still goddamned works.

ROFL this place is great!

Hell dude sugar effects dopamine. Lots of things mess with your brain chemistry.

Right, I get that. I'm not scared of sugar or caffiene.

And quite frankly, it's probably irrational, but I see what SSRIs or anxiety medications do to people both on them and coming off of them.

I don't really understand brain functionality, and I don't think the medical field has a 100% grasp of how it works. Then you look at the number of people on the stuff, and it is staggering.

Either way, my worst nightmare is losing my shit upstairs. Like I said, it's the only part of my body that's ****ing working.

Oh I get what youre saying. Losing it up stairs is a scary thought.

Losing it upstairs is the easy part. There may be torment and confusion for the inflicted, but the emotional pain for the family is absolutely brutal. And ultimately the brain controls the body and eventually the organs quit working and it's just a matter of time...….My feeling is that mental health in this country is not a high priority and it should be

It will cause adrenal stress if you take it too often without a break. Go to the Vitamin store they'll give you something for Adrenal Fatigue. Should help prevent you from being tired and moody when you don't take the stuff.

I just discovered this thread today. I was wondering how many posts it would take for somebody to say, "Diet/exercise are all you need!"