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DaFace 04-19-2019 10:19 AM

The Greatest Movie Franchises of All Time - Sweet 16
 
Links to preceding threads:


You can view the entire tournament bracket here as we go along, but here's the current state:

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Please vote for the franchise in each pair that you feel is most deserving of being in consideration for the Greatest Movie Franchise of All Time. I'll put one of these up every day or two as we go along. So vote!

Possible Concerns and Responses:
  1. A franchise I like isn't on the list! Too bad. Nominations are closed. This is just a fun offseason diversion, but feel free to complain in the thread if it will make you feel better.
  2. There's something on the list that I don't even think is a franchise! Don't vote for it.
  3. There's something on the list that I don't recognize. Yeah, there are a few that I don't recognize either. If you feel generous, look it up and determine if you think it's worthy. Or just don't vote for it. Either option is allowed.
  4. The seeding seems weird (or there's something I have no idea how it got in there). The seeding is based on total estimated tickets from Box Office Mojo, but some older franchises were randomly seeded since we don't have any data available about their ticket sales. Again, if you don't feel something is deserving, don't vote for it!

DaFace 04-19-2019 10:26 AM

It's always kind of weird how these work out. I honestly don't care much about Karate Kid, Die Hard, Rocky, or The Godfather, so whatever on those. For the rest, I'm starting to be really picky about the idea of a franchise at this point - not just a couple good movies. So that means:

MCU over Pirates
Harry Potter over Indiana Jones
Bond over Hunger Games
Star Wars over M:I
X-Men over Superman
Lord of the Rings over Batman

Jerm 04-19-2019 10:28 AM

MCU
Indiana Jones
Hunger Games
Die Hard
Star Wars
X-Men
Batman
The Godfather

The Franchise 04-19-2019 10:29 AM

Batman versus Lord of the Rings? **** that's a hard decision.

DJ's left nut 04-19-2019 11:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 14214741)
Batman versus Lord of the Rings? **** that's a hard decision.

In the end, Clooney ****ed the franchise yet again.

I just cannot get over that streak of pure garbage in the middle. The Hobbit movies weren't great, but they'll movies I can watch and enjoy the cinematography if nothing else.

But man, Batman & Robin deserves genuine consideration as one of the worst movies ever made. Batman Forever was pretty awful as well.

Now what could flip it is if you consider the animated films as part of the franchise. Some of those are genuinely good. But in the end there are a dozen of the damn things and it just didn't seem fair to include them. So I went LOTR because of how god-awful B&R was.

DaFace 04-19-2019 11:08 AM

Granted its competition this round is Karate Kid, but Die Hard seems to be the Cinderella story of the tournament. At 13-0 so far, it's basically a lock to make it to the Elite 8. It's got its work cut out against Bond (probably) though.

KC_Lee 04-19-2019 11:20 AM

Marvel Cinematic Universe
Indiana Jones
James Bond
Die Hard
Mission: Impossible
X-Men
Lord of the Rings
The Godfather

I know, I know, M:I over Star Wars?!?!?! Hear me out; the M:I franchise has been more consistent in quality than Star Wars.

Put down the torches and pitchforks for just a moment. Look beyond the initial trilogy, does anyone consider the prequels good? Is anyone on this board ready to fire up some The Phantom Menace or watch the pillar of charisma Hayden Christensen? Or how about the total bomb that was SW:8 The Last Jedi? Anyone clamoring to pop that gem into the DVD player?

I know it will lose but the M:I franchise is strong in my opinion than SW is overall.

The Franchise 04-19-2019 11:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 14214826)
In the end, Clooney ****ed the franchise yet again.

I just cannot get over that streak of pure garbage in the middle. The Hobbit movies weren't great, but they'll movies I can watch and enjoy the cinematography if nothing else.

But man, Batman & Robin deserves genuine consideration as one of the worst movies ever made. Batman Forever was pretty awful as well.

Now what could flip it is if you consider the animated films as part of the franchise. Some of those are genuinely good. But in the end there are a dozen of the damn things and it just didn't seem fair to include them. So I went LOTR because of how god-awful B&R was.

I'm including the animated movies for both. I voted for Batman but I would be happy with either one.

loochy 04-19-2019 11:26 AM

How is x-men not marvel comics?

The Franchise 04-19-2019 11:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by loochy (Post 14214876)
How is x-men not marvel comics?

Because they aren't part of the Marvel Universe movies. They were considered Fox.

DJJasonp 04-19-2019 01:00 PM

For the love of God, do we have a bunch of 13 year olds on this board???

In no way, shape, or form, should Harry Potter be this close to the iconic Henry (indiana) Jones!

Rain Man 04-19-2019 01:01 PM

Die Hard is really living up to its name.

Rain Man 04-19-2019 01:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJJasonp (Post 14215096)
For the love of God, do we have a bunch of 13 year olds on this board???

In no way, shape, or form, should Harry Potter be this close to the iconic Henry (indiana) Jones!

All of my hopes for the tournament at this point are pinned on Indy. I could live with Star Wars as well, based purely on the first three movies, but Indy is where I'm planting my flag from here on out.

DaFace 04-19-2019 01:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJJasonp (Post 14215096)
For the love of God, do we have a bunch of 13 year olds on this board???

In no way, shape, or form, should Harry Potter be this close to the iconic Henry (indiana) Jones!

People don't like to admit it, but Star Wars is a kids story as well. Just because something is meant to be accessible for kids doesn't mean that it can't be well done and enjoyable for adults as well.

Nzoner 04-19-2019 01:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJJasonp (Post 14215096)
For the love of God, do we have a bunch of 13 year olds on this board???

In no way, shape, or form, should Harry Potter be this close to the iconic Henry (indiana) Jones!

I'll be asking the same if The Godfather advances only to lose to Batman or LOTR

Amnorix 04-19-2019 01:26 PM

Not that this isn't a worthwhile endeavor and I'm sure there will be a lot of spirited debate along the way, but there's no f'ing way the MCU loses this thing.

O.city 04-19-2019 01:29 PM

Bond can take down the MCU

sedated 04-19-2019 01:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJJasonp (Post 14215096)
For the love of God, do we have a bunch of 13 year olds on this board???

In no way, shape, or form, should Harry Potter be this close to the iconic Henry (indiana) Jones!

Harry Potter, like it or not, was consistent.

Indiana Jones was great, meh, surprisingly good, and then an epic dumpster fire.

DaFace 04-19-2019 01:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amnorix (Post 14215156)
Not that this isn't a worthwhile endeavor and I'm sure there will be a lot of spirited debate along the way, but there's no f'ing way the MCU loses this thing.

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 14215163)
Bond can take down the MCU

I'm an MCU fan, but I think Bond could take it down in the Final Four, or Star Wars has a shot in the championship. The MCU is great, but there are people who love it and people who don't care at all.

For what it's worth, though, this all started with my random desire to understand the MCU's place in the discussion (see the nomination thread in the OP). So I certainly expect it to be a strong contender to take it all.

jjchieffan 04-19-2019 01:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC_Lee (Post 14214858)
Marvel Cinematic Universe
Indiana Jones
James Bond
Die Hard
Mission: Impossible
X-Men
Lord of the Rings
The Godfather

I know, I know, M:I over Star Wars?!?!?! Hear me out; the M:I franchise has been more consistent in quality than Star Wars.

Put down the torches and pitchforks for just a moment. Look beyond the initial trilogy, does anyone consider the prequels good? Is anyone on this board ready to fire up some The Phantom Menace or watch the pillar of charisma Hayden Christensen? Or how about the total bomb that was SW:8 The Last Jedi? Anyone clamoring to pop that gem into the DVD player?

I know it will lose but the M:I franchise is strong in my opinion than SW is overall.

I enjoyed the prequels. We got to see the story behind the people in the original trilogy. Seeing how the young Skywalker was being groomed to be the chosen one to become Darth Vader was good to watch for me. My daughter is 14 and until about 3 years ago, hadn't seen any of the Star Wars. We watched them together. I started out with the Original Star Wars, then went to episode one and watched them all in order. She became a die-hard Star Wars fan from that point on.

Rain Man 04-19-2019 01:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amnorix (Post 14215156)
Not that this isn't a worthwhile endeavor and I'm sure there will be a lot of spirited debate along the way, but there's no f'ing way the MCU loses this thing.

Back To The Future is a better ... (glances up at sweet sixeen) ... dammit.

WhawhaWhat 04-19-2019 01:51 PM

Marvel
Harry Potter
James Bond
Die Hard
Star Wars
X-Men
Batman
Rocky

patteeu 04-19-2019 02:10 PM

I’m one of the antiMCU people. They’ve just become too overwhelming in number and I blame them for squeezing out the sci-fi and fantasy movies that might have otherwise been made. Plus, they’re mostly just long fight and chase movies and that gets boring to me.

I only liked the first half of the first Pirates movie, but they get my vote here.

Rain Man 04-19-2019 02:11 PM

I went...

Caribbean
Indy
Bond...James Bond
Die Hard
Star Wars
Superman
Batman
Rocky

Honestly, I don't care about half of these, but they were the better option.

patteeu 04-19-2019 02:13 PM

Lord of the Rings is my preference for champion, but I could be happy with several others. Not Superman though. I didn’t care for any of those.

I don’t like Harry Potter either. I don’t think I’ve ever made it through one without nodding off. But I can appreciate them and wouldn’t have a problem if they end up going far.

suzzer99 04-19-2019 02:13 PM

I refuse to vote in matchup #1. Bleh.

At least Batman had a couple classics in the original with Jack Nicholson and the Dark Knight Returns. Marvel is just the same movie over and over and over - always ending with some kind of beam that's going to end the world and a disposable CGI army.

Except Deadpool - I'd vote for that purely for the opening car rollover scene to Juice Newton. It's pretty much the anti-super hero movie.

And I like Guardians of the Galaxy for the music and creativeness - but it still follows that same lame formula at the end.

Dartgod 04-19-2019 02:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sedated (Post 14215180)
Harry Potter, like it or not, was consistent.

Indiana Jones was great, meh, surprisingly good, and then an epic dumpster fire.

This. I will not waste my time on Temple of Doom or Kingdom of the Crystal Skull. 2 out of 4 is not good, I don't care how good the first one was.

BWillie 04-19-2019 02:19 PM

Rocky vs the Godfather. That one was tough.

Munson 04-19-2019 02:20 PM

MCU
Indiana Jones
James Bond
Die Hard
Star Wars
X-Men
Batman
Godfather

The hardest one for me was Rocky vs The Godfather. I gave the edge to The Godfather due to the great performances from Pacino and Brando.

DJ's left nut 04-19-2019 02:27 PM

I voted Godfather but I really probably shouldn't have.

The Rocky Franchise has produced, man. Especially with the late stage renaissance over the last several years. Rocky Balboa, Creed and Creed II are outstanding movies. Rocky I was just an excellent movie; much like Rambo was an excellent film before the later movies became almost a parody of the character. But unlike Rambo, Rocky II-IV were good in their own cheesy but really entertaining sort of ways; they didn't go nearly as over the top as the later Rambo movies did (especially III, that was essentially a live-action cartoon). V sucked, but they made 8 damn movies and only had 1 real clunker.

I like Godfather I and II so much that I went with my heart and voted for Godfather, but as a true franchise, Rocky is the runaway winner really.

WhawhaWhat 04-19-2019 02:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 14215310)
V sucked

"Touch me and I'll sue"

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patteeu 04-19-2019 02:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 14215310)
I voted Godfather but I really probably shouldn't have.

The Rocky Franchise has produced, man. Especially with the late stage renaissance over the last several years. Rocky Balboa, Creed and Creed II are outstanding movies. Rocky I was just an excellent movie; much like Rambo was an excellent film before the later movies became almost a parody of the character. But unlike Rambo, Rocky II-IV were good in their own cheesy but really entertaining sort of ways; they didn't go nearly as over the top as the later Rambo movies did (especially III, that was essentially a live-action cartoon). V sucked, but they made 8 damn movies and only had 1 real clunker.

I like Godfather I and II so much that I went with my heart and voted for Godfather, but as a true franchise, Rocky is the runaway winner really.

I guess I should watch the Creed movies. I liked Rocky, Rocky II (to a lesser extent) and Rocky Balboa, but III-V soured me quite a bit.

DJ's left nut 04-19-2019 03:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by patteeu (Post 14215355)
I guess I should watch the Creed movies. I liked Rocky, Rocky II (to a lesser extent) and Rocky Balboa, but III-V soured me quite a bit.

Rocky ended the Cold War in Rocky IV, man.

C'mon. If I can change....and you can change....EVERYBODY CAN CHANGE!!!!

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You gotta accept Rocky IV (and to a similar extent, Rocky III) for what they are. And once you do, they're pretty damn entertaining.

Imon Yourside 04-19-2019 03:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 14215098)
Die Hard is really living up to its name.

This would be my clear cut favorite, but the up and down James Bond series seems beloved for some stupid reason.

kccrow 04-19-2019 04:42 PM

How the **** is Rocky even remotely close to the Godfather in any way, shape or form? That's ridiculous.

ThaVirus 04-19-2019 04:44 PM

Batman vs Lord of the Rings was a tough one.

Star Wars, MCU and Bond are ****ing steamrolling. Given the demographics of the board, i should have expected Indy to wreck but this is getting a bit out of hand.

MTG#10 04-19-2019 04:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dartgod (Post 14215294)
This. I will not waste my time on Temple of Doom or Kingdom of the Crystal Skull. 2 out of 4 is not good, I don't care how good the first one was.

Temple of Doom is my favorite one. Probably because it's one of the few movies I can actually remember watching during my early childhood, so it's really more of a nostalgia thing.

kccrow 04-19-2019 04:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 14215520)
Batman vs Lord of the Rings was a tough one.

Star Wars, MCU and Bond are ****ing steamrolling. Given the demographics of the board, i should have expected Indy to wreck but this is getting a bit out of hand.

Batman is more nostalgia than anything but just about every movie was shit. Lord of the Rings is an iconic movie trilogy that pushed Hollywood barriers and was phenomenal. Wasn't much of a choice for me.

Easy 6 04-19-2019 05:05 PM

Star Wars

Rocky

Batman

In that order

DJ's left nut 04-19-2019 05:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kccrow (Post 14215530)
Batman is more nostalgia than anything but just about every movie was shit. Lord of the Rings is an iconic movie trilogy that pushed Hollywood barriers and was phenomenal. Wasn't much of a choice for me.

I watched They Shall Not Grow Old and the documentary from Jackson on how he went about making it.

It gave me a whole new appreciation for the LOTR movies. It made me realize just how much HE was required to make those as amazing as they were and made me recognize that the reason it's one of the few times a movie has surpassed its source material is because Peter Jackson is just an absolute badass.

He's possibly the best producer/director in the business today. He's simply quirky enough that he'll sometimes waste his talents on pointless passion projects (like Mortal Engines). The dude is pretty incredible.

Sorry 04-19-2019 05:14 PM

i prefer mission impossible over stars as a whole. The cinematography and action scenes and depth of story for an action series is marvelous. It's iconic in it's own way adding to the fact a 50 year old plus tom cruise is balls to the walls crazy and creates INSANE live scenes.

kccrow 04-19-2019 05:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 14215545)
I watched They Shall Not Grow Old and the documentary from Jackson on how he went about making it.

It gave me a whole new appreciation for the LOTR movies. It made me realize just how much HE was required to make those as amazing as they were and made me recognize that the reason it's one of the few times a movie has surpassed its source material is because Peter Jackson is just an absolute badass.

He's possibly the best producer/director in the business today. He's simply quirky enough that he'll sometimes waste his talents on pointless passion projects (like Mortal Engines). The dude is pretty incredible.

I very much agree. Also a big reason I appreciate The Godfather and Francis Ford Coppola. That movie series was amazing. The first Rocky was good, it was a feel good movie but as a movie series I really don't think it can compete with something as well done as The Godfather.

patteeu 04-19-2019 05:31 PM

The whole Midwest region is a dogfight for the final four spot. Each of the four has a strong following here.

kccrow 04-19-2019 05:40 PM

The 3 best for me are all on the same side of the bracket, which kind of sucks.

Pretty much LOTR, Godfather, and Star Wars are my top 3. After that I don't much give a ****. Bond and Die Hard would probably be vying for spot #4 and it's not because either were all that cinematically amazing, but I'd tend to lean towards Die Hard.

jjchieffan 04-19-2019 10:05 PM

I came across an article today about a bunch of sequels coming out in the next year or so. There are some franchises adding more, such as Bad Boys, Pirates of the Carribean, and Indiana Jones. But there are some others that will be their first sequel. Avatar actually has 4 coming, The Shining has The Sleep coming out, and they're making a sequel to Space Jam. Oh, and a prequel to Die Hard. Here's the link if anyone wants to check it out.

https://www.directexpose.com/every-m...coming-out/10/

Why Not? 04-19-2019 10:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jjchieffan (Post 14215844)
I came across an article today about a bunch of sequels coming out in the next year or so. There are some franchises adding more, such as Bad Boys, Pirates of the Carribean, and Indiana Jones. But there are some others that will be their first sequel. Avatar actually has 4 coming, The Shining has The Sleep coming out, and they're making a sequel to Space Jam. Oh, and a prequel to Die Hard. Here's the link if anyone wants to check it out.

https://www.directexpose.com/every-m...coming-out/10/

Not gonna lie, I’m in to most of those.

oldman 04-19-2019 10:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 14215310)

I like Godfather I and II so much that I went with my heart and voted for Godfather, but as a true franchise, Rocky is the runaway winner really.

I hear what you're saying, but I'm not sure what a "franchise" is. Is it the number of films, the story, what? Both Batman and James Bond were great, but how many people played those roles. How many takes can you do on Batman's character? Both Rocky and Godfather followed one story. Those 2 superb franchises should not have met until at least the Final Four. But like you, I had to go with the Corleones.

007 04-20-2019 12:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jjchieffan (Post 14215844)
I came across an article today about a bunch of sequels coming out in the next year or so. There are some franchises adding more, such as Bad Boys, Pirates of the Carribean, and Indiana Jones. But there are some others that will be their first sequel. Avatar actually has 4 coming, The Shining has The Sleep coming out, and they're making a sequel to Space Jam. Oh, and a prequel to Die Hard. Here's the link if anyone wants to check it out.

https://www.directexpose.com/every-m...coming-out/10/

Pirates without Depp will fail. Indiana 5 is dipping into the well two too may times. Beetlejuice? Really? Triplets? ROFL

ThaVirus 04-20-2019 12:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kccrow (Post 14215530)
Batman is more nostalgia than anything but just about every movie was shit.

I'd say the Nolan trilogy is packing most of Batman's punching power in this tournament

threebag 04-20-2019 07:11 AM

Karate Kid beating Shrek is pure bullshit.

Too many votes living vicariously through Danielson getting mustache rides from Mr. Miyagi

Rausch 04-20-2019 07:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by threebag02 (Post 14215989)
Karate Kid beating Shrek is pure bullshit.

Too many votes living vicariously through Danielson getting mustache rides from Mr. Miyagi

It’s hard when so many of these franchises only have one great film.

patteeu 04-20-2019 07:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by threebag02 (Post 14215989)
Karate Kid beating Shrek is pure bullshit.

Too many votes living vicariously through Danielson getting mustache rides from Mr. Miyagi

Shrek is a cartoon. Karate Kid is a primer for a life well lived. :)

Sweet Daddy Hate 04-20-2019 12:44 PM

I, Sweet Daddy, the MVP, have now voted in this poll.

TLO 04-20-2019 11:19 PM

Batman is losing??? What is wrong with you people!!

suzzer99 04-20-2019 11:21 PM

I think GloryDays has a movie he'd like to nominate as a last minute write-in.

Shoes 04-22-2019 10:00 AM

Marvel
Indiana Jones
James Bond
Die Hard (first time voting for this piece of shit that knocked off Alien)
Star Wars
Xmen
LOTR
The Godfather

FAX 04-22-2019 10:10 AM

LOTR kicking Batman's ass.

My faith in humanity is temporarily restored.

PS: John Wick could have taken Sauron down with a quill.

FAX

luv 04-22-2019 10:11 AM

Indiana Jones is beating Harry Potter? That's the only one that surprises me.

DaFace 04-22-2019 10:12 AM

The poll closes in about 10 minutes, so barring a last-minute barrage of votes, this one looks about wrapped up. Elite Eight coming up!


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