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The Franchise 04-19-2019 04:05 PM

Chad Reuter 7 round mock draft
 
» Round 1, No. 29 overall: Garrett Bradbury, C, N.C. State
» Round 2, No. 61: Lonnie Johnson, CB, Kentucky
» Round 2, No. 63 (from Rams): Mecole Hardman, WR, Georgia
» Round 3, No. 92: John Cominsky, DE, Charleston
» Round 5, No. 167: Devine Ozigbo, RB, Nebraska
» Round 6, No. 201: Keenen Brown, TE, Texas State
» Round 6, No. 214: Saivion Smith, S, Alabama
» Round 7, No. 216 (from 49ers): Nate Herbig, OG, Stanford

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap300...-draft-round-1

DJ's left nut 04-19-2019 04:14 PM

Too high for Lonnie and Cominsky (though I do really like him; I don't expect him to go before the 5th and if he does, c'est la vie).

I do a lot of draft research and I have no goddamn idea who Keenen Brown is. I do like Saivion Smith in the 6th, though just resigning him to safety this early in his career seems odd. He should get a shot at CB first, especially in a Cover 3 where I think he'll play up a bit.

Eh - not terrible. Not my favorite effort but I've seen far worse.

DJ's left nut 04-19-2019 04:22 PM

Man, he had us leaving Greedy, Adderly, Tillery, Fant and Simmons on the board at 29 to take Bradbury. I love me some Bradbury but that's a loooooot of talent left on the board. Not sure I like that route at all.

The Franchise 04-19-2019 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 14215485)
Man, he had us leaving Greedy, Adderly, Tillery, Fant and Simmons on the board at 29 to take Bradbury. I love me some Bradbury but that's a loooooot of talent left on the board. Not sure I like that route at all.

Yeah....that's what I thought. We could technically come out with Adderley and Tillery with our first two picks.....all it would take is a little trade up in the 2nd.

TambaBerry 04-19-2019 04:41 PM

That is an absolute shit draft there are no other words for it

DJ's left nut 04-19-2019 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 14215498)
Yeah....that's what I thought. We could technically come out with Adderley and Tillery with our first two picks.....all it would take is a little trade up in the 2nd.

By his board you could trade down in the 1st and get the firepower you'd need to trade up in the 2nd, get them both and probably still walk away with an additional 4th rounder for your efforts.

If the board were still tacked that tight at 29, there are far more interesting/effective paths forward than just taking Bradbury and then sitting tight at 61/63.

The Franchise 04-19-2019 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 14215510)
By his board you could trade down in the 1st and get the firepower you'd need to trade up in the 2nd, get them both and probably still walk away with an additional 4th rounder for your efforts.

If the board were still tacked that tight at 29, there are far more interesting/effective paths forward than just taking Bradbury and then sitting tight at 61/63.

He also has Pratt going after our pick in the 5th round.

kccrow 04-19-2019 04:43 PM

I threw up in my mouth a little bit.

DJ's left nut 04-19-2019 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 14215514)
He also has Pratt going after our pick in the 5th round.

Ha! He had us taking Ozigbo, a guy who's virtually identical to Hyde, over Pratt?

Man, we could just absolutely murder that draft. We could give up a our 1st, 6th and probably next year's 3rd to get both of Houston's 2nds.

54, 55, 61, 63 we could go:

Adderley
Tillery
Hardman/Boykin
Justin Layne/David Long

At 92 we go Gaillard to address Center
Pratt at 167
Wescoe with a remaining 6,
Fields as a slot corner in the 7th or Rodney Anderson as a wild card at RB


I mean good lord, if this is how the board fell and we ended up with the lot he gave us, that's just awful. We could offer even 'more' by draft value, offer them our 1st and one of this year's 2nds

kccrow 04-19-2019 05:17 PM

By his board, and without trading, I'd probably go something like this:

1. Chase Winovich, ER, Michigan
2. Justin Layne, CB, Michigan State
2. Elgton Jenkins, OL, Mississippi State
3. Terry McLaurin, WR, Ohio State
5. Vosean Joseph, LB, Florida
6. Isaiah Buggs, DT, Alabama
6. Sheldrick Redwine, DB, Miami
7. Jordan Brown, CB, South Dakota State

DJ's left nut 04-19-2019 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by kccrow (Post 14215548)
By his board, and without trading, I'd probably go something like this:

1. Chase Winovich, ER, Michigan
2. Justin Layne, CB, Michigan State
2. Elgton Jenkins, OL, Mississippi State
3. Terry McLaurin, WR, Ohio State
5. Vosean Joseph, LB, Florida
6. Isaiah Buggs, DT, Alabama
6. Sheldrick Redwine, DB, Miami
7. Jordan Brown, CB, South Dakota State

You'd take Winovich over Tillery?

Man, can't get there at all. Tillery could be as good a DE in this system as Winovich could AND be a better interior rusher. I think Tillery is a significantly higher ceiling, more versatile prospect than Winovich.

BryanBusby 04-19-2019 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 14215595)
You'd take Winovich over Tillery?

Man, can't get there at all. Tillery could be as good a DE in this system as Winovich could AND be a better interior rusher. I think Tillery is a significantly higher ceiling, more versatile prospect than Winovich.

I think if you would have stopped after sentence 2, you would have been fine. Tillery at DE is a real stretch. Real stretch.

DJ's left nut 04-19-2019 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by BryanBusby (Post 14215612)
I think if you would have stopped after sentence 2, you would have been fine. Tillery at DE is a real stretch. Real stretch.

He's nearly as explosive as Jones and I think Jones could play SDE in this system quite well. Hell, Jones could probably play Leo well if asked. Tillery's not far removed from him athletically. He's incredible long and has the functional strength thrive anywhere you put him.

He's not what we've come to expect from edge players in our recent history as a 3-4 team, but as a 4-3 DE, especially if Spags isn't looking for a speed rusher, I think he can do the job quite well.

Everyone says that Tanoh is really a 4-3 DE - what physical advantages does Tanoh have on Tillery? Tillery is incredibly athletic; far more than most seem to want to give him credit for. I'm not saying it's where he'd be best, but he could absolutely do a good job on the end.

BryanBusby 04-19-2019 08:29 PM

Yeah I'm not agreeing with that at all beyond the part about Tanoh.

staylor26 04-19-2019 08:43 PM

He’s similar in size and athleticism to Calais Campbell, who can and has played both.

pugsnotdrugs19 04-19-2019 09:04 PM

I’m thinking secondary in R1 + a possible trade for Clark with one of the 2s and maybe a 5 or 6.. just my gut right now.

DJ's left nut 04-19-2019 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 14215767)
He’s similar in size and athleticism to Calais Campbell, who can and has played both.

Give Malik Jackson a better first step and you have Jerry Tillery.

I really don't get the idea that he couldn't play DE at all. He absolutely could, and he could play it very well. It just depends on what kind of DE you're looking for.

But the things that would make him effective as a DE could easily make him a terror alongside Jones on the interior. That's what sets him apart from Winovich - I think he can be equally effective at Winovich's only real position (and perhaps even moreso if Spags is doing w/ his pass rush what he certainly appears to be doing) and he can be a monster from the interior.

He's just a better prospect, IMO. And by a pretty significant amount.

DJ's left nut 04-19-2019 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 14215778)
I’m thinking secondary in R1 + a possible trade for Clark with one of the 2s and maybe a 5 or 6.. just my gut right now.

I would still be absolutely floored if they gave up a 2nd for Clark. And frankly, pretty unnerved.

Because acquiring a DL who's due a massive contract means that things are going very poorly in the Jones extension talks or even worse, the Chiefs are preparing for life after Tyreek Hill and are going to go ahead and have a plan in place to reallocate those funds.

pugsnotdrugs19 04-19-2019 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 14215784)
I would still be absolutely floored if they gave up a 2nd for Clark. And frankly, pretty unnerved.

Because acquiring a DL who's due a massive contract means that things are going very poorly in the Jones extension talks or even worse, the Chiefs are preparing for life after Tyreek Hill and are going to go ahead and have a plan in place to reallocate those funds.

Completely understand your points, more of a prediction on my end— and it could change in the next six days.

Rapoport was talking tonight on NFLN about how there are teams monitoring Clark’s status and there is real interest in trading for him. We’d be naive to think KC isn’t potentially one of those teams based on all the info that is available to us.

TambaBerry 04-19-2019 09:21 PM

At this point I'd rather trade up for a DE instead of trading and paying for Clark. I actually think we're pretty well off at DE though so I'd rather stay put and take Adderley, Johnson, Thornhill, etc at 29 or even a DT if they fell.

The Franchise 04-19-2019 09:21 PM

My top 3 for the draft is Murphy, Tillery and Adderley. I’d be fine with Bradbury if those three were gone.

TambaBerry 04-19-2019 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 14215797)
My top 3 for the draft is Murphy, Tillery and Adderley. I’d be fine with Bradbury if those three were gone.

Do you like Adderley a lot better then say Johnson or Thornhill?

The Franchise 04-19-2019 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by TambaBerry (Post 14215802)
Do you like Adderley a lot better then say Johnson or Thornhill?

I personally do but I wouldn’t be against drafting either one of those two.

TambaBerry 04-19-2019 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 14215804)
I personally do but I wouldn’t be against drafting either one of those two.

There is only two things I hate about Adderley, these nagging injuries during his combine and pro day. The other was level of competition

DJ's left nut 04-19-2019 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 14215797)
My top 3 for the draft is Murphy, Tillery and Adderley. I’d be fine with Bradbury if those three were gone.

I've sold myself on Greedy's physical ability and am working hard to convince myself that the coaching staff can straighten out his focus/maturity issues.

Because for all the things I worry about with that pick, it's impossible not to recognize that a focused Greedy Williams would be the most dynamic CB to come out of this draft. He could play inside or out, he could play zone or man. He could do anything we need of him as a CB.

If him and Murphy are both there, I probably go Murphy because I think Murphy's floor is pretty high, but given time I could talk myself into gambling on the upside of Williams instead.

pugsnotdrugs19 04-19-2019 09:36 PM

Williams has the pure cover skills to be a true #1 corner. But there are plenty of questions there beyond that obviously—questions that the FO and staff hopefully have decent answers to now.

I think our defensive staff could potentially maximize his potential. And HB can influence him along as a former LSU guy.

Chief Northman 04-19-2019 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by TambaBerry (Post 14215805)
There is only two things I hate about Adderley, these nagging injuries during his combine and pro day. The other was level of competition

Complete agreement here. Love his tape, love his game.

But his draft prep being hindered by the nagging injuries has me worried that he might be one of those constant band-aid types, missing games every year. Adderly is fine-boned and might not be able to hold up to NFL physicality given how he puts his body on the line.

DJ's left nut 04-19-2019 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 14215809)
Williams has the pure cover skills to be a true #1 corner. But there are plenty of questions there beyond that obviously—questions that the FO and staff hopefully have decent answers to now.

I think our defensive staff could potentially maximize his potential. And HB can influence him along as a former LSU guy.

Ultimately I've gotten to where if he's there, odds are I won't be upset if we pass on him or upset if we pick him. I'll defer to the staff either way because they're the ones that will have decided that they can/cannot straighten him out.

What they choose to do at that point would tell us what their answer is. Because if they think they CAN straighten him out, he's worthy of a top 15 selection.

But like Ryan Sims screwed me up forever on DL with motor issues in the draft, Marcus Peters has me skittish of corners who need to be babysat to keep their heads screwed on straight.

It is what it is, I s'pose...

staylor26 04-19-2019 09:44 PM

Man the thought of Ferrell, Murphy, or Greedy falling to us....

The more you hear, the more it sounds realistic too.

staylor26 04-19-2019 09:52 PM

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The Franchise 04-19-2019 09:53 PM

God damn I love the Honey Badger.

kccrow 04-19-2019 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 14215595)
You'd take Winovich over Tillery?

Man, can't get there at all. Tillery could be as good a DE in this system as Winovich could AND be a better interior rusher. I think Tillery is a significantly higher ceiling, more versatile prospect than Winovich.

I really, really like Tillery but no. Winovich impacts the backfield so much. He puts alot more pressure on the QB than his sack totals indicate. He's a menace. If the Chiefs didn't need a LDE like it's going out of style and instead needed a RDE, then maybe I'd side more with that.


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