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staylor26 04-20-2019 08:57 PM

One and Only Chiefs Mock
 
2. Juan Thornhill, S, Virginia
2. Trayvon Mullen, CB, Clemson
3. Miles Boykin, WR, Notre Dame
5. Foster Moreau, TE, LSU
6. Ross Pierschbacher, C, Alabama
6. Myles Gaskin, RB, Washington
7. Sione Takitaki, LB, BYU

The Franchise 04-20-2019 09:13 PM

I’m good with it.

Chris Meck 04-20-2019 09:31 PM

I like.

Chief Northman 04-20-2019 09:31 PM

I think Omenihu is gone by pick 50, and Boykin that high is a bit rich for my liking. I do like the list however. A lot of needs checked off with talent that can contribute sooner than later.

Munson 04-20-2019 09:41 PM

Jerry Tillery + Chris Jones would be a great combo.

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Chargem 04-21-2019 02:20 AM

Was thinking about doing my own but I would also have taken Tillery round 1.

I just think while the obvious needs are CB/DE, there's a good chance the top 3 CB and top 5 DE are gone by 20. I think a big trade up, like giving up the 2020 1st round pick, is a bad idea. A trade up a few spots to 24 or something I'd be fine with.

If we're standing pat, I think the most likely falling positions on D are DT and S. I'd love if Tillery fell to us, and I'd also be okay with a Thornhill or Gardener Johnson.

BryanBusby 04-21-2019 08:03 AM

Mostly meh on Mullen, Boykin might be too early and Gaskin probably going before late 6th.

staylor26 04-21-2019 08:24 AM

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NFL Media's Daniel Jeremiah anticipates Notre Dame WR Miles Boykin going in Round 2.

That noise you are hearing is Josh Norris screaming with excitement. Boykin (6'4/220) got Norris' attention after an incredible performance at the NFL Scouting Combine, and it was quite clear that Boykin had juice at Notre Dame whenever he had adequate quarterback play. Unfortunately, that wasn't too often. Otherwise, Boykin would have been on everyone's radar earlier in the process. A second-round selection would be a huge boost for Boykin's NFL projection as it was presumed that he was near the Round 3/4 borderline.

SOURCE: Andrew Howard on Twitter
Apr 18, 2019, 8:11 PM
For those of you that think the 2nd is too early for Boykin

BryanBusby 04-21-2019 08:34 AM

In that case, I'd pass.

staylor26 04-21-2019 08:42 AM

The guy is 6’4” 220 lbs with a 4.42 40 and 6.77 3 cone

He has #1 WR upside and is great insurance for Tyreek IMO.

I’d prefer a Samuel or Campbell, but they’ll be gone.

BryanBusby 04-21-2019 08:48 AM

He also has good probability of being another Chris Conley.

Not saying no, but not in the 2nd in a draft like this. If someone else wants to do it, hey great for them. But it shouldn't be us.

staylor26 04-21-2019 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by BryanBusby (Post 14217102)
He also has good probability of being another Chris Conley.

Not saying no, but not in the 2nd in a draft like this. If someone else wants to do it, hey great for them. But it shouldn't be us.

I disagree with that comparison. Conley never flashed that athleticism on the field like Boykin and a lot of that is because of his bad 3 cone time. Boykin doesn’t lack agility like Conley and it shows on tape. He just plays faster period.

Chargem 04-21-2019 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by BryanBusby (Post 14217102)
He also has good probability of being another Chris Conley.

Not saying no, but not in the 2nd in a draft like this. If someone else wants to do it, hey great for them. But it shouldn't be us.

Agree with Bryan. Personally I'm either hoping Samuel, Isabella, Campbell, or Butler is somehow there at the back of the 2nd, if not then WR maybe not the pick until later.

BryanBusby 04-21-2019 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 14217106)
I disagree with that comparison. Conley never flashed that athleticism on the field like Boykin and a lot of that is because of his bad 3 cone time. Boykin doesn’t lack agility like Conley and it shows on tape. He just plays faster period.

You can disagree all you want, but I think it applies. You're drafting more on the workout numbers and they're both guys that didn't run great routes or could beat press.

staylor26 04-21-2019 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by BryanBusby (Post 14217110)
You can disagree all you want, but I think it applies. You're drafting more on the workout numbers and they're both guys that didn't run great routes or could beat press.

Boykin also had 800+ yards and 8 TD’s last season. Way better than any season Conley ever had with worse QB play. Disagree all you want, but it’s a lazy comparison.

RunKC 04-21-2019 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 14217098)
The guy is 6’4” 220 lbs with a 4.42 40 and 6.77 3 cone

He has #1 WR upside and is great insurance for Tyreek IMO.

I’d prefer a Samuel or Campbell, but they’ll be gone.

The guy looks like a better version of Chris Conley, especially with that 3 cone time.

The Franchise 04-21-2019 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by BryanBusby (Post 14217110)
You can disagree all you want, but I think it applies. You're drafting more on the workout numbers and they're both guys that didn't run great routes or could beat press.

Notre Dame didn’t really have a great QB situation

BryanBusby 04-21-2019 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 14217212)
Notre Dame didn’t really have a great QB situation

Yes that's definitely well understood, so I'm not saying "**** taking this guy before late"

There are some significant flaws even with the QB situation considered.

Iconic 04-21-2019 12:48 PM

Pretty good draft. I'd be extremely satisfied with it excluding Trayvon Mullen. Unless the plan is to groom him to play single high he's not even worth drafting IMO. From what I've seen he's the least stickiest of the high end corners - and that's in large part because he can’t flip his hips fast enough.

I think you can find better corners in round 2 so I'd pass on Mullen.

staylor26 04-21-2019 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Iconic (Post 14217500)
Pretty good draft. I'd be extremely satisfied with it excluding Trayvon Mullen. Unless the plan is to groom him to play single high he's not even worth drafting IMO. From what I've seen he's the least stickiest of the high end corners - and that's in large part because he can’t flip his hips fast enough.

I think you can find better corners in round 2 so I'd pass on Mullen.

I completely disagree about his hips and most scouting reports seems to agree.

RealSNR 04-21-2019 01:42 PM

Parris Campbell is actually my favorite WR in this draft, but I also really like Boykin.

We have no shot at Campbell unless we take him in the 1st, and I'm not sure I'd be willing to do that. Boykin in the late 2nd is still something I would be iffy towards, but in either case, I'd be happy we got a great player.

BryanBusby 04-21-2019 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 14217116)
Boykin also had 800+ yards and 8 TD’s last season. Way better than any season Conley ever had with worse QB play. Disagree all you want, but it’s a lazy comparison.

That's your argument? LMAO

Yeah I'll disagree all dang day.

staylor26 04-21-2019 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by BryanBusby (Post 14218113)
That's your argument? LMAO

Yeah I'll disagree all dang day.

I’m not saying that Boykin doesn’t have his weaknesses. I’m just saying he’s a better prospect than Conley. He was more productive with worse QB play, and doesn’t lack agility, so he’s actually capable of improving his route running significantly. You pretending that’s not the case is funny though.

Pitt Gorilla 04-21-2019 09:58 PM

Love Pierschbacher, but I'm incredibly biased. Great kid from a great family.

Hog's Gone Fishin 04-21-2019 10:05 PM

We don't need a ****ing RB! Why do people keep drafting one. And I'm quite sure we'll draft at least 2 DB's. Fuller and Breeland are on 1 year deals.

Chris Meck 04-22-2019 12:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Hog's Gone Fishin (Post 14218267)
We don't need a ****ing RB! Why do people keep drafting one. And I'm quite sure we'll draft at least 2 DB's. Fuller and Breeland are on 1 year deals.

anyone from round 4 on is like a 10% success rate.

Taking depth and competition late is the name of the game.

If you hit on a guy, hey, great.

It's building the roster from the bottom up. Don't worry about it.

staylor26 04-22-2019 05:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Hog's Gone Fishin (Post 14218267)
We don't need a ****ing RB! Why do people keep drafting one. And I'm quite sure we'll draft at least 2 DB's. Fuller and Breeland are on 1 year deals.

:facepalm:

kccrow 04-22-2019 09:59 AM

I'd be okay with those top 3 and I can live with Omenihu in the late 3rd even if I view him as a 5th round guy. After that, I don't care but I kind of like it. Piersbacher probably doesn't fit the mold for Reid centers but he's a good player.

staylor26 04-24-2019 04:52 PM

Updated after Clark trade

BryanBusby 04-24-2019 05:31 PM

Pretty ambitious on a good amount of these picks probably

staylor26 04-24-2019 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by BryanBusby (Post 14226531)
Pretty ambitious on a good amount of these picks probably

I’m going by respected draft guys rankings with these, so I don’t see how.

Yea there’s talk about Thornhill going much higher than that, but you’ve heard that about Adderley, Thompson, Rapp, CGJ, Abram, and now there are reports saying Savage might be the first safety off the board. Veach talking about this safety class makes me think it’s not nearly as good as CP thinks it is. These guys are all going lower than we expected.

I don’t think any of these are incredibly unrealistic.

BryanBusby 04-24-2019 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 14226585)
I’m going by respected draft guys rankings with these, so I don’t see how.

Yea there’s talk about Thornhill going much higher than that, but you’ve heard that about Adderley, Thompson, Rapp, CGJ, Abram, and now there are reports saying Savage might be the first safety off the board. Veach talking about this safety class makes me think it’s not nearly as good as CP thinks it is. These guys are all going lower than we expected.

I don’t think any of these are incredibly unrealistic.

It's not. A lot of options if you're looking for a guy on Friday, but the fact that none of these guys can separate from the rest is a big red flag. Corner sort of the same.

kccrow 04-24-2019 08:19 PM

If Thornhill is there at 61 I'd hope the Chiefs run that pick to the podium, but I retain the thought he's going to be the lone round 1 safety taken. I do think a couple of safeties will drop to that range though and wouldn't be surprised to see the ones with more issues like Gardner-Johnson (tackling) and Thompson (frame/experience) drop a bit.

staylor26 04-25-2019 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by kccrow (Post 14226809)
If Thornhill is there at 61 I'd hope the Chiefs run that pick to the podium, but I retain the thought he's going to be the lone round 1 safety taken. I do think a couple of safeties will drop to that range though and wouldn't be surprised to see the ones with more issues like Gardner-Johnson (tackling) and Thompson (frame/experience) drop a bit.

You could be right, but at this point I wouldn’t be shocked if any of the safeties made it to us, even Adderley. There’s just so many conflicting reports.

Maybe putting Thornhill there is a tad bit wishful thinking, because like Adderley because he’s a perfect fit :D

staylor26 04-26-2019 09:20 PM

I got juan right :D


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