The Greatest Movie Franchises of All Time - Elite 8
 

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You can view the entire tournament bracket here as we go along, but here's the current state:

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Please vote for the franchise in each pair that you feel is most deserving of being in consideration for the Greatest Movie Franchise of All Time. I'll put one of these up every day or two as we go along. So vote!

Possible Concerns and Responses:

1. A franchise I like isn't on the list! Too bad. Nominations are closed. This is just a fun offseason diversion, but feel free to complain in the thread if it will make you feel better.
2. There's something on the list that I don't even think is a franchise! Don't vote for it.
3. There's something on the list that I don't recognize. Yeah, there are a few that I don't recognize either. If you feel generous, look it up and determine if you think it's worthy. Or just don't vote for it. Either option is allowed.
4. The seeding seems weird (or there's something I have no idea how it got in there). The seeding is based on total estimated tickets from Box Office Mojo, but some older franchises were randomly seeded since we don't have any data available about their ticket sales. Again, if you don't feel something is deserving, don't vote for it!

It's going to come down to:

Marvel vs. Bond
LOTR vs. Star Wars

And if I'm picking....the finals are Marvel vs. LOTR.

Batman fell as our first one seed to go, but I think the other three are PROBABLY safe through this round. We'll see.

I'm definitely intrigued how LOTR and the Godfather shake out, though.

WTF who keeps voting for Marvel shit?

A ton of us. :)

It cracks me up that people don't think it's a HUGE franchise. There are almost as many movies in the MCU as there are Bond movies, and they've done it in about 1/5th the time. The MCU has outsold both Star Wars and Bond in tickets by a wide margin.

Like it or not, it's a box office juggernaut.

I went with:

Indiana Jones
Star Wars
LOTR
James Bond

Ummm, people who like the movies?

However it turns out I'm just glad to know that the first two Godfather films rank #2 and #3 on IMDb top 250

IMDb top 250

And yet Batman is killed off. :sulk:

Thank Clooney for that shit happening.

Yip

Batman's greatest issue is that there were some real clunkers in the late 90s. If it'd all been as good as The Dark Knight, it would definitely be up there as a contender.

Yep.

Indy is going to take down Marvel, and rightly so.

Yeah, definitely looks like that could possibly be the upset of the round. Time will tell.

Right, but that's like comparing salmonella-induced diarrhea to a post-Thanksgiving dump. Sure, there's a ton of output in a very short amount of time, but it lacks substance and quality.

The problem you get with polls like this is you get prohibitive favorites that should win hands down. But what happens is that you get some people who like to be contrarians just for the grins and giggles so instead of voting like they normally would they pick "the other guy".

Take Marvel and Indiana Jones....while I love the Indy Jones series, it dropped a couple of stinkers in the franchise and should not even be close to MCU. (Any film that adds Shia Lebouf automatically sucks)

I take it you are comparing Bond to the MCU....if so then you need to take a look at a couple of the Bond movies that really don't measure up. (See George Lazenby for example....)

For me MCU takes first hands down, followed closely by Rocky and LOTR.

I think it is all in what your taste is.

So it's like that is it? :shake:

You Sir, are an ignoramus!

Damn it's getting tough

You need to challenge him to a duel by taking off your gloves and slapping him across the face with them. :)

LOTR ahead by 10 over The Godfather LMAO this place

I cheat at duels and shoot on 2. It's the best strategy to win.

Eh, it's a wide variety of factors. There are many people who just plain don't care about the MCU and have warm fuzzy feeling about Indy, so even though the MCU has been objectively far more successful, they vote for it.

There's also a demographic skew to this place obviously. If you did this same contest among a bunch of 20-30 year olds, there's no way in hell the Godfather is still in it, and Harry Potter is a favorite to win it all.

It is what it is. I'm just enjoying the slight chaos as a mild offseason distraction. :)

The Godfather was on AMC this weekend....watched the whole thing. The original was a classic but the others were not as good.

Of course. Just like Indiana Jones would.

First off IMO those movies should be seen unedited with no commercial interruptions and secondly there are people who love the franchise that would argue Part II is superior to the original.

MCU
Die Hard
Star Wars
LOTR

I always think it's fascinating to see the wild swings that happen early in these contests. Indy was ahead of the MCU by like 5 with 20 votes, and now it's behind by 5. Sample size is important.

Really? I thought 2 was excellent, but 3 was so bad it may have neutralized the value of 2. I still have difficulty voting against it.

A Rain Man versus stumppy duel.

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I for one have seen Part III numerous times and while I agree it wasn't near as good as the other two I thought it was still an important piece to the franchise in showing Michael wrestling with his demons.

I'm all about the unedited version of the first one where we get to see Apollonia's titties. :D

While your explanation is valid/true you can't deny that this place is full of contrarians who would argue with a Stop sign if it brought them pleasure.

Yea, except you need to substitute Captain America for the guy with the sword. That would be accurate.

In hindsight I would probably concur that 2 is good and 3 stunk it up.

Tough choices here. I went with;
Indy over MCU. This was my toughest choice, as I have really enjoyed the MCU franchise. Honestly, I probably made my choice based on nostalgia. I'm good with whichever choice wins

Die-hard over Bond. Bond is good, don't get me wrong. But I just find Die-hard more to my liking.

Star Wars over X-Men. I can't wait for each new Star Wars movie to come out. When I hear a new X-Men is out, I'm thinking cool. I want to see it, but I'm not excited like I am for Star Wars.

Godfather over LOTR. It's the Godfather. Nuff said.

LOTR beating the Godfather? Time to go to the mattresses.

What time will tell is that the MCU is as unstoppable as the Hulk when rampaging; Thor with Stormbreaker in his hands and righteous anger in his eyes; Rocket when he has a chance to steal someone's prosthetic limb.... :D

Marvel
Bond
Star Wars
Godfather

When voting for LOTR, I've included all 3 Hobbit movies in my decision.

Without the Hobbit trilogy, I probably would've gone with the Godfather.

Listen, I'm a HUGE fan of Indy, but let's face it, there's one great movie, one damn good, fun, movie, and the rest is crap.

MCU vs the Indy series is like Thor vs. Hawkeye. I mean, Hawkeye is fine and all, but let's be serious...

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The Godfather gave us two of the greatest and most influential films in the American canon while LOTR gave us more of the same CGI. CP votes LOTR, of course.

I blame Diane Keaton. Bitch should have sprouted wings and horns or something.

I call shinanigans at LOTR over The Godfather, which includes two of the best films of all time.

LOTR makes you frisky, huh?

Indy
Die Hard
Star Wars
LOTR

Godfather and Indy definitely need more love.

Think about iconic quotable lines that you hear people use in everyday vernacular.


Come on, CP . . . . .

Star Wars continues to crush its opponents and then pull the still-beating heart from their chests.

We've got two viscous cock fights and two blow outs.

Indy
Bond
XMen - Couldn't do Star Wars. It's been garbage since Empire Strikes Back.
Godfather

Cue the Indy theme music.

Even if Raiders is better than ANY MCU movie (I wouldn't say that personally), I'll match your Indy III with Ragnarok, and then I've got a crapton of great movies that will steamroll everything you have left by a massive margin.

It's not even close. :shrug:

Indy, Bond, Star Wars, and, of course, Godfather.

Who's the most iconic character in the MCU? Iron Man, probably. Maybe Captain America?

Put them up against Indiana Jones. Who is more iconic and memorable?

MCU hasn't had any real, awful stinkers. Indy 4 is a goddamn travesty.

I must have missed the "most iconic and memorable movie character of all time" contest.

Should that not be something that's considered when picking "The Greatest Movie Franchise of All Time"??


I mean, to each his own I guess . . . . .

True that.

But 'Ant Man' didn't do much for me, personally. Pretty meh.

.........

John Wick will win this competition in a decade

Indy preparing to steal the win from Marvel.

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Obviously everyone is welcome to interpret the question as they see fit, but it seems like a completely different (though correlated) aspect to me. Star Wars is about more than Luke Skywalker. LOTR is about more than Frodo.

I just have trouble buying into the idea that Indiana Jones is a "great franchise" when they haven't put out a movie that's been worth the price of admission for 30 years.

(I have a similar issue with The Godfather for the same reason, just for the record.)

Didn’t say it was ONLY about that. Just that it should be considered in the overall criteria.

And to your second point, in all fairness, they’ve only put out one movie in the last 30 years. Yeah, it wasn’t good, but I don’t feel like we should penalize them because their golden era was the 80’s. And Indy had a lot less to pull from, unlike MCU, which can continue to pull out story after story and character after character from an endless comic book library.

Ha ha. Love ya, Rainman.

But we're selecting the greatest franchise of all time. Recency is irrelevant. Just because Abraham Lincoln hasn't saved the union in 150 years doesn't mean that he should lose the 'greatest president' tournament.

For the record, though, I would vote for Washington in the 'greatest president' tournament.

Indiana Jones is overrated.

This contest has made me a bit dispirited about the 'State of Moviedom' Basically, they are all CGI filled comic book movies, or movies in the style of comic books - with the exception of the more literary Godfather and LOTR (and I voted for CGI filled LOTR) While I really enjoyed all these movies (maybe not every sequel), I feel cheated that we don't have more diversity of style/source from which to choose.

But if a president were reelected for 20 terms compared to a president who served a single term, wouldn't that be a pretty strong point in his favor (constitutional and lifespan issues aside)? Indy ran for three movies and couldn't ever recreate the magic. That's just a pretty weak definition of a franchise to me.

That's just capitalism versus art. Just because McDonald's produces a lot of hamburgers, it doesn't mean they're the best hamburger maker out there.

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Yeah, it's not a rich diversity. Admittedly, part of that is the CP demographic profile, and that's fine. But yeah, there's a lot of CGI stuff and pretty rote stuff in the tournament overall. Maybe that's because a lot of great movies in other genres don't lend themselves to franchise development, though. It would be hard to make a continuing series out of some road trip movie or drama or Apollo 13 or Napoleon Dynamite. So maybe the problem is just that the franchise concept is self-enclosed.

We all know it's coming down to Indiana Jones vs Star Wars.

May the best Ford win.

Real stunts > CGI

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Indy
S Wars
Godfather
Bond

Sorry this is nerdplanet.

Take it to your elitist film club wankfest.

Indiana Jones and the success of Lucasfilm are why there's even a Marvel Cinematic Universe to begin with.

Show some respect, junior.

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Not to mention that Indiana Jones is an ORIGINAL creation instead of just copying and pasting shit out of comic books.

This!

I judged on memories through time. That is the true measure.

Antman/Spiderman/Thors' hammer vs. a horse head in a bed.