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Marty Mac Ver 3.0 04-25-2019 12:36 PM

Chiefs Are Not Done Shopping
 
I figured I would drop here versus Twitter first.

Was just told the following: "Chiefs looking at 1 offensive player (WR), 1 defensive player on current rosters to acquire with draft picks. If nothing materializes, they are looking at a WR with one of the 2nd round picks."

Here's what I would do:

PUNT ON 2019 round 2.

Bundle both picks to Patrick Peterson, get him a new deal that keeps him in KC for 4-5 years.

Basically your 2019 Round 1 and Round 2 picks become Frank Clark and Patrick Peterson, which is bold and strong when you are in a win-now mode and not wanting to waste Mahomes' best/youngest years.

Use remainder of 2019 drafts to solidify the back-end of your roster, create more competition.

Draft nerds will hate this move, but it's logical.

Prison Bitch 04-25-2019 12:38 PM

Both 2s??? Lol, yeah sure.

Pasta Little Brioni 04-25-2019 12:39 PM

Over half of 2nd rounders have proven to be absolute trash over the years, so why not

kcclone 04-25-2019 12:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marty Mac Ver 3.0 (Post 14228200)
I figured I would drop here versus Twitter first.

Was just told the following: "Chiefs looking at 1 offensive player (WR), 1 defensive player on current rosters to acquire with draft picks. If nothing materializes, they are looking at a WR with one of the 2nd round picks."

Here's what I would do:

PUNT ON 2019 round 2.

Bundle both picks to Patrick Peterson, get him a new deal that keeps him in KC for 4-5 years.

Basically your 2019 Round 1 and Round 2 picks become Frank Clark and Patrick Peterson, which is bold and strong when you are in a win-now mode and not wanting to waste Mahomes' best/youngest years.

Use remainder of 2019 drafts to solidify the back-end of your roster, create more competition.

Draft nerds will hate this move, but it's logical.


Winning now trumps everything.

Prison Bitch 04-25-2019 12:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pasta Giant Meatball (Post 14228208)
Over half of 2nd rounders have proven to be absolute trash over the years, so why not

Cool, so 1 will be good. And cheap. Let’s do that instead, mmmkay?

Dante84 04-25-2019 12:42 PM

Who is the WR on a current roster, I wonder?

Marty Mac Ver 3.0 04-25-2019 12:43 PM

One might not entice Arizona.

Marty Mac Ver 3.0 04-25-2019 12:43 PM

That's a great question. I don't know. Was told a long time ago John Ross was a player of interest.

That said, I want the kid from ASU. N'Keal The Real Deal!



Quote:

Originally Posted by Dante84 (Post 14228223)
Who is the WR on a current roster, I wonder?


ptlyon 04-25-2019 12:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 14228217)
Cool, so 1 will be good. And cheap. Let’s do that instead, mmmkay?

They'll never go for it! Then again they might. Little red devils.

Dante84 04-25-2019 12:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marty Mac Ver 3.0 (Post 14228224)
One might not entire Arizona.

say what?

TambaBerry 04-25-2019 12:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dante84 (Post 14228223)
Who is the WR on a current roster, I wonder?

probably agholor

loochy 04-25-2019 12:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marty Mac Ver 3.0 (Post 14228224)
One might not entire Arizona.

But two might some of Arizona?

Munson 04-25-2019 12:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marty Mac Ver 3.0 (Post 14228227)
That's a great question. I don't know. Was told a long time ago John Ross was a player of interest.

That said, I want the kid from ASU. N'Keal The Real Deal!

The last time we had a "Real Deal", it didn't work out so well!

loochy 04-25-2019 12:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dante84 (Post 14228223)
Who is the WR on a current roster, I wonder?

AJ Green?

Dante84 04-25-2019 12:46 PM

I certainly believe this for a few reasons:

+ We are in win now mode, as evidenced by the Clark trade
+ We deliberately kept money to spend, as evidenced by the Clark contract structure

JohnnyHammersticks 04-25-2019 12:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kcclone (Post 14228209)
Winning now trumps everything.

Bingo.

Worry about the future when you'll be clicking your Super Bowl rings together.

loochy 04-25-2019 12:47 PM

So you're saying that I should go ahead and buy my AFCCG tickets?

Marty Mac Ver 3.0 04-25-2019 12:48 PM

Made a typo - Meant to type Entice

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dante84 (Post 14228229)
say what?


Dante84 04-25-2019 12:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marty Mac Ver 3.0 (Post 14228250)
Made a typo - Meant to type Entice

ah gotcha. I should have put that together.

Bump 04-25-2019 12:50 PM

well we are in Superbowl or bust mode so that would be fine with me.

Dante84 04-25-2019 12:50 PM

We are going to find our Zobrist.

TEX 04-25-2019 12:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marty Mac Ver 3.0 (Post 14228200)
I figured I would drop here versus Twitter first.

Was just told the following: "Chiefs looking at 1 offensive player (WR), 1 defensive player on current rosters to acquire with draft picks. If nothing materializes, they are looking at a WR with one of the 2nd round picks."

Here's what I would do:

PUNT ON 2019 round 2.

Bundle both picks to Patrick Peterson, get him a new deal that keeps him in KC for 4-5 years.

Basically your 2019 Round 1 and Round 2 picks become Frank Clark and Patrick Peterson, which is bold and strong when you are in a win-now mode and not wanting to waste Mahomes' best/youngest years.

Use remainder of 2019 drafts to solidify the back-end of your roster, create more competition.

Draft nerds will hate this move, but it's logical.

Im in! :thumb:

Iconic 04-25-2019 12:52 PM

You guys act like making these moves makes a Superbowl win concrete. It's not that simple. There's always a what if. What if we get punted out of contention in the playoffs. What if one of these guys gets injured. What if these moves don't amount to shit. Why cut your window to a couple years followed by a legitimate rebuild when you can extrapolate it forever with 0 rebuilding years by learning to draft well and pay the right guys.

So short sighted but whatever. If they do this and things don't work out everyone will be stuck picking up the pieces of this mess.

loochy 04-25-2019 12:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iconic (Post 14228262)
You guys act like making these moves makes a Superbowl win concrete. It's not that simple. There's always a what if. What if we get punted out of contention in the playoffs. What if one of these guys gets injured. What if these moves don't amount to shit. Why cut your window to a couple years followed by a legitimate rebuild when you can extrapolate it forever with 0 rebuilding years.

So short sighted but whatever. If they do this and things don't work out everyone will be stuck picking up the pieces of this mess.

WHAT IF YOU LIKE TO PISS ON OUR CAMPFIRE?

O.city 04-25-2019 12:54 PM

Meh, no thanks.

Draft some guys.

RealSNR 04-25-2019 12:55 PM

Since we went through on the Clark trade, then yeah. Go all the ****ing way. Patrick Peterson it is.

I might try to entice Arizona instead with some draft assets from next year in addition to one of our 2nd round picks this year, but I would understand if a deal like that couldn't get done. I'd want a 2nd rounder this year just in case there's a starting LG or C waiting to be had with that pick.

Eat dicks in hell, Tom Brady. You're going down this time.

ptlyon 04-25-2019 12:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iconic (Post 14228262)
You guys act like making these moves makes a Superbowl win concrete. It's not that simple. There's always a what if. What if we get punted out of contention in the playoffs. What if one of these guys gets injured. What if these moves don't amount to shit. Why cut your window to a couple years followed by a legitimate rebuild when you can extrapolate it forever with 0 rebuilding years by learning to draft well and pay the right guys.

So short sighted but whatever. If they do this and things don't work out everyone will be stuck picking up the pieces of this mess.

I'm not "all in for now" fan either. I want to dominate the league like the Patriots are for years due to 50 years of mediocrity.

But I can't control it, just like I couldn't control said 50 years of mediocrity. So whatever.

Mother****erJones 04-25-2019 12:59 PM

**** it. All chips to the center of the table. Trading for Pat Peterson would be awesome

Sofa King 04-25-2019 01:01 PM

Not a big fan of the WR talk unless it's a 3rd stringer.

Dante84 04-25-2019 01:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iconic (Post 14228262)
You guys act like making these moves makes a Superbowl win concrete. It's not that simple. There's always a what if. What if we get punted out of contention in the playoffs. What if one of these guys gets injured. What if these moves don't amount to shit. Why cut your window to a couple years followed by a legitimate rebuild when you can extrapolate it forever with 0 rebuilding years by learning to draft well and pay the right guys.

So short sighted but whatever. If they do this and things don't work out everyone will be stuck picking up the pieces of this mess.

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CupidStunt 04-25-2019 01:04 PM

I like trading picks a lot more when they're at the end of every round like ours. So f'ing do it. The more ready-to-play talent we have the better.

pugsnotdrugs19 04-25-2019 01:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TambaBerry (Post 14228233)
probably agholor

I’d be okay with that. He’s really good when the play breaks down too.

Wouldn’t wanna give up higher than our 3rd though, if that.

Sassy Squatch 04-25-2019 01:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iconic (Post 14228262)
You guys act like making these moves makes a Superbowl win concrete. It's not that simple. There's always a what if. What if we get punted out of contention in the playoffs. What if one of these guys gets injured. What if these moves don't amount to shit. Why cut your window to a couple years followed by a legitimate rebuild when you can extrapolate it forever with 0 rebuilding years by learning to draft well and pay the right guys.

So short sighted but whatever. If they do this and things don't work out everyone will be stuck picking up the pieces of this mess.

Every party has a pooper

That's why we invited you

Party pooper

Party pooper

arrowheadnation 04-25-2019 01:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iconic (Post 14228262)
You guys act like making these moves makes a Superbowl win concrete. It's not that simple. There's always a what if. What if we get punted out of contention in the playoffs. What if one of these guys gets injured. What if these moves don't amount to shit. Why cut your window to a couple years followed by a legitimate rebuild when you can extrapolate it forever with 0 rebuilding years by learning to draft well and pay the right guys.

So short sighted but whatever. If they do this and things don't work out everyone will be stuck picking up the pieces of this mess.

What? People don't get injured in the NFL. I'm already up here at Rally House waiting in line so I can be the first to buy a Super Bowl LOL Champs hat.

Molitoth 04-25-2019 01:10 PM

but but but Sean Manea!!!

Dunerdr 04-25-2019 01:14 PM

Thanks for the cp drop mm I retired from twitter.

cabletech94 04-25-2019 01:17 PM

welcome back marty mac!!

always glad to hear from ya. waiting with my pat peterson hat on (not really).

ShowtimeSBMVP 04-25-2019 01:18 PM

Lol

Buckweath 04-25-2019 01:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marty Mac Ver 3.0 (Post 14228200)
I figured I would drop here versus Twitter first.

Was just told the following: "Chiefs looking at 1 offensive player (WR), 1 defensive player on current rosters to acquire with draft picks. If nothing materializes, they are looking at a WR with one of the 2nd round picks."

Here's what I would do:

PUNT ON 2019 round 2.

Bundle both picks to Patrick Peterson, get him a new deal that keeps him in KC for 4-5 years.

Basically your 2019 Round 1 and Round 2 picks become Frank Clark and Patrick Peterson, which is bold and strong when you are in a win-now mode and not wanting to waste Mahomes' best/youngest years.

Use remainder of 2019 drafts to solidify the back-end of your roster, create more competition.

Draft nerds will hate this move, but it's logical.

There's absolutely no way you extend Peterson for 4-5 years. The guy is already 29 years old, at a position where many sharply decline around 30 years old. If anything, you let him play out his contract and then hope you can recoup some of the picks by letting him go as a FA.

carcosa 04-25-2019 01:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 14228206)
Both 2s??? Lol, yeah sure.

This but not sarcastic

CasselGotPeedOn 04-25-2019 01:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Showtime (Post 14228380)
Lol

You're such a butt hurt loser LMAO

ShowtimeSBMVP 04-25-2019 01:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CasselGotPeedOn (Post 14228395)
You're such a butt hurt loser LMAO

This guy has no info but by all means keep believing him.

kcclone 04-25-2019 01:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sofa King (Post 14228295)
Not a big fan of the WR talk unless it's a 3rd stringer.


To me, they’re getting ready for Hill not being here long term. I certainly understand that rationale.

Sassy Squatch 04-25-2019 01:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Showtime (Post 14228397)
This guy has no info but by all means keep believing him.

LMAO You sure let yourself get worked up over Marty.

TwistedChief 04-25-2019 01:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iconic (Post 14228262)
You guys act like making these moves makes a Superbowl win concrete. It's not that simple. There's always a what if. What if we get punted out of contention in the playoffs.

Oh? We can't win a Super Bowl if we lose in the playoffs? A Super Bowl win is not concrete if we make these trades and still have to play the entire season through? I demand more of your hot takes.

Megatron96 04-25-2019 01:31 PM

I don't pretend to know what it would take to get PP, but contract-wise I think he's pretty affordable ($11-$13 million/year I believe). Especially if we utilize similar creativity a la Frank Clark's deal.

Let's remember that rookie CBs tend to get owned by veteran NFL QBs. They get picked on mercilessly and rarely finish their rookie seasons looking very good, statistically speaking. And the Chiefs play veteran QBs 14 times this coming season. And 9 of those QBs have proven that they the skill set to to do so.

PP is a known quantity, and while he might have lost a step, his football intelligence and coverage skills still make up the difference against all but the very fastest WRs. PP would lock down the opposing team's no. 1 WR, giving the rest of the secondary some breathing room with the remaining receiving options.

Of course, the problem with this scenario is that I have no idea what we'd have to give up in terms of draft picks to get him.

Too bad we couldn't just pay straight cash for him . . .

Simply Red 04-25-2019 01:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TambaBerry (Post 14228233)
probably agholor

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Naptown Chief 04-25-2019 01:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marty Mac Ver 3.0 (Post 14228227)
That's a great question. I don't know. Was told a long time ago John Ross was a player of interest.

That said, I want the kid from ASU. N'Keal The Real Deal!

I'd love to get Ross... He's been a disappointment so far in Cincinnati, but playing for that trash organization will do that

Skyy God 04-25-2019 01:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TambaBerry (Post 14228233)
probably agholor

Not at $9M for 2019.

58-4ever 04-25-2019 01:48 PM

It's too bad we missed on OBJ. Anyone here that doesn't trade Reek straight up for OBJ?

ToxSocks 04-25-2019 01:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 58-4ever (Post 14228489)
It's too bad we missed on OBJ. Anyone here that doesn't trade Reek straight up for OBJ?

This guy.

Naptown Chief 04-25-2019 01:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 58-4ever (Post 14228489)
It's too bad we missed on OBJ. Anyone here that doesn't trade Reek straight up for OBJ?

Played 4 games in 2017. 12 games in 2018. Has had ankle surgery.

I guess to answer your question, me.

Naptown Chief 04-25-2019 01:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Naptown Chief (Post 14228500)
Played 4 games in 2017. 12 games in 2018. Has had ankle surgery.

I guess to answer your question, me.

To expand on this...
Sammy Watkins has missed fewer games than OBJ. Let that sink in

YayMike 04-25-2019 01:53 PM

as I said in another thread, I'm not overpaying for PP. i'd offer the Cards our higher 2nd round pick and a 3rd next year for PP..... Otherwise...no dice.

we can use the draft picks to grab a WR, CB, C/OG. Those fill 2nd and 3rd rd needs.

TLO 04-25-2019 01:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by YayMike (Post 14228507)
as I said in another thread, I'm not overpaying for PP. i'd offer the Cards our higher 2nd round pick and a 3rd next year for PP..... Otherwise...no dice.

we can use the draft picks to grab a WR, CB, C/OG. Those fill 2nd and 3rd rd needs.


Maybe I'm in the minority here - but giving up two 2nds for a good corner is worth it to me over drafting Kpass and Speaks 2.0

RockChalk 04-25-2019 02:01 PM

Funny how many people on here value draft picks. You'd think people would rather get rid of their first born than give up two second round picks.

You're literally trading away unknowns for proven commodities.

Walt White 04-25-2019 02:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by YayMike (Post 14228507)
as I said in another thread, I'm not overpaying for PP. i'd offer the Cards our higher 2nd round pick and a 3rd next year for PP..... Otherwise...no dice.

we can use the draft picks to grab a WR, CB, C/OG. Those fill 2nd and 3rd rd needs.

Hopefully what we gave up in the Clark trade doesn't make future trades harder. Now teams that saw what we gave up will expect a little more. Which I'm fine with the Clark trade, it'd just be nice to have one of those extra picks available for another trade.

VAGOMO 4 LIFE! 04-25-2019 02:06 PM

Just reported!! Veach tried to trade for PP before Frank Clark. Cards wanted too much so Veach turned his attention to Clark!

ChiefBlueCFC 04-25-2019 02:07 PM

I would absolutely trade both 2's for Peterson. Abso-freaking-lutely. Idk about extending him 4-5 years, but I'd definitely take a draft that got me Clark and Peterson with my 1st and 2nd round picks.

Eleazar 04-25-2019 02:08 PM

Thanks, Marty!

TLO 04-25-2019 02:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE! (Post 14228560)
Just reported!! Veach tried to trade for PP before Frank Clark. Cards wanted too much so Veach turned his attention to Clark!

What happened to that link you posted before?

Jerm 04-25-2019 02:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefBlueCFC (Post 14228563)
I would absolutely trade both 2's for Peterson. Abso-freaking-lutely. Idk about extending him 4-5 years, but I'd definitely take a draft that got me Clark and Peterson with my 1st and 2nd round picks.

100%....time to win now and still be built for several years.

Draft picks are just that...draft picks. Give me the proven commodities right now.

VAGOMO 4 LIFE! 04-25-2019 02:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TLO (Post 14228569)
What happened to that link you posted before?

It was in another thread but here you go!!!

https://foxsports910.iheart.com/feat...ing-the-draft/

VAGOMO 4 LIFE! 04-25-2019 02:10 PM

Veach is so ****ing aggressive!! I love him ��

Kman34 04-25-2019 02:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iconic (Post 14228262)
You guys act like making these moves makes a Superbowl win concrete. It's not that simple. There's always a what if. What if we get punted out of contention in the playoffs. What if one of these guys gets injured. What if these moves don't amount to shit. Why cut your window to a couple years followed by a legitimate rebuild when you can extrapolate it forever with 0 rebuilding years by learning to draft well and pay the right guys.

So short sighted but whatever. If they do this and things don't work out everyone will be stuck picking up the pieces of this mess.

Dude.. you are one Negative Nancy... Life is full of “what if’s”... let this play out till you shit on everything... who knows, I may join you if this turns bad..
Plus ..MAHOMES!!!

ChiefBlueCFC 04-25-2019 02:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 14228206)
Both 2s??? Lol, yeah sure.

yes, both 2s.

RunKC 04-25-2019 02:23 PM

I don’t have any problem trading multiple 2’s for Patrick Peterson.

Yes we would lose compensation, but I don’t think Sammy Watkins is here in 2020. I think we will try to recoup for that trade by drafting a receiver tomorrow and trading him to a new team that will offer him a new deal.

notorious 04-25-2019 02:24 PM

Have we signed Ty Law yet?

Prison Bitch 04-25-2019 02:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by notorious (Post 14228629)
Have we signed Ty Law yet?

No but we’re teying to trade for him right now

TLO 04-25-2019 02:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 14228657)
No but we’re teying to trade for him right now

Prison Bitch teying this shit down!!!!

BossChief 04-25-2019 02:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Showtime (Post 14228397)
This guy has no info but by all means keep believing him.

Haha but lacafora does?

Is he still hearing KC is gonna take Okung at 5?

ct 04-25-2019 02:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dante84 (Post 14228223)
Who is the WR on a current roster, I wonder?

Patrick Peterson & Larry Fitz for both 2nds

make it happen veach

loochy 04-25-2019 02:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ct (Post 14228698)
Patrick Peterson & Larry Fitz for both 2nds

make it happen veach

yeah, alright, i can dig that

VAGOMO 4 LIFE! 04-25-2019 02:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ct (Post 14228698)
Patrick Peterson & Larry Fitz for both 2nds

make it happen veach

Fitz deserves a super bowl more then anyone in this league

Pitt Gorilla 04-25-2019 02:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 58-4ever (Post 14228489)
It's too bad we missed on OBJ. Anyone here that doesn't trade Reek straight up for OBJ?

I wouldn't.

Red Dawg 04-25-2019 02:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE! (Post 14228715)
Fitz deserves a super bowl more then anyone in this league

No he doesn't. Reid does.

VAGOMO 4 LIFE! 04-25-2019 02:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Red Dawg (Post 14228722)
No he doesn't. Reid does.

I’m talking player wise

loochy 04-25-2019 02:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Red Dawg (Post 14228722)
No he doesn't. Reid does.

No he doesn't. Alex Smith does.

notorious 04-25-2019 02:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 14228657)
No but we’re teying to trade for him right now

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Red Dawg 04-25-2019 02:53 PM

No he doesn't, CP does.


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