The Greatest Movie Franchises of All Time - Championship
 

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You can view the entire tournament bracket here.

Please vote for the franchise in each pair that you feel is most deserving of being in consideration for the Greatest Movie Franchise of All Time. I'll put one of these up every day or two as we go along. So vote!

Possible Concerns and Responses:

1. A franchise I like isn't on the list! Too bad. Nominations are closed. This is just a fun offseason diversion, but feel free to complain in the thread if it will make you feel better.
2. There's something on the list that I don't even think is a franchise! Don't vote for it.
3. There's something on the list that I don't recognize. Yeah, there are a few that I don't recognize either. If you feel generous, look it up and determine if you think it's worthy. Or just don't vote for it. Either option is allowed.
4. The seeding seems weird (or there's something I have no idea how it got in there). The seeding is based on total estimated tickets from Box Office Mojo, but some older franchises were randomly seeded since we don't have any data available about their ticket sales. Again, if you don't feel something is deserving, don't vote for it!

I got busy, and Tyreek shit went crazy, so we didn't get to follow the action as closely, but the MCU barely got by Bond, but eventually won by 4 votes. Really, I'd say that the MCU, Bond, and Indy are all pretty strong contenders, but we have to have winners and losers somehow.

So here we are. Star Wars vs. the MCU. I suspect Star Wars is going to prevail, but time will tell...

Marvel hasnt had all the turds SW has.

Agreed.

Jesus.... I can't believe Bond lost.

If nothing else, this tournament has made me realize how much people tend to cluster around the franchises they really love. I've probably seen 2 Bond movies in my life. I just don't care. I suspect others are the same way about the MCU, of which I've seen every single movie multiple times.

I'm not saying that they aren't great, and I've voted for it in a couple of these rounds. I'm just saying that we're almost measuring these based on what people have chosen to pay attention to rather than some objective measure of how good they are.

Bond lost?

This shit is rigged

See also: The Godfather.

I think that we ended up with a good strong pair for the final. I used to like Bond, but got bored with it years ago. And give me Star Wars over LOTR. I really liked LOTR. But I like Star Wars a lot more. I didn't care for episode 1 or 2. But I thought that Episode 3 was really good. It showed us how Anikan became Darth Vader and how the Jedi fell. I think that overall, the franchise is worthy of being here It's a touch choice between the 2 left.

Even though Star Wars had more bad movies than good, there is no way I'm voting for the MCU. It should have been Indy vs Bond.

It really should have only been avengers rather than MCU.

I LOVE Star Wars but after Endgame esp., no way in hell I'm voting against MCU.

Eh, I get that argument, but it's really tough to make a meaningful division without it being ridiculous. Should Iron Man, Thor, Captain America, GOTG, Ant Man, etc. all been separate? What about Harry Potter vs. the newer stuff (Fantastic Beasts or whatever)? What about LOTR vs the Hobbit? Or what about Batman (90s) vs. The Dark Knight vs. the recent stuff?

In the end, it makes sense to me to use the broad definition of a franchise, but obviously there are a lot of different ways we could have sliced it.

I promise my intention wasn't to have the championship fall on this weekend. :)

I am not a big movie guy and have not even voted on any of these until the last couple of rounds. I also have to admit that I have not seen all of either of these franchises movies either although I am old enough that I saw the first SW movie in the theater while in high school.

Having put forth my lack of qualifications...

I voted MCU for really one reason only. I think they have done an amazing job of starting with separate character story lines and over time have dove tailed them into a single over-arching story line. At the same time most of them seem to stand alone as well. I can't think of any other series of movies that has done this.

By the same token, I think the biggest strength for SW in this poll series is the impact it had, especially the first releases, on American society. It became part of us over the years which I think is part of why people were so upset with the newer releases, they just did not stand up to the impact felt with the original three.

Both suck

The “Nooooooo!” Vader part that was added in Jedi and used in Sith might be the back breaker.

Simply one of the stupidest part of any movie I will ever see.

Almost as bad as "Anakin, you're breaking my heart."

abstain.

“I hate sand. It’s rough, coarse, and it gets in my vagina.”

Riveting writing.

ROFL

Marvel movies were built on the foundation that Star Wars forged.

There is no MCU without Star Wars.

Therefore....Star Wars.

MCU is the movie franchise for low information voters, so you did the right thing. :)

I get that. For me it just doesn't seem like a fair comparison. When you look at the franchise as a whole, I'm not sure any of them can stand up to a 20 movie extended story.

To your point. When I think of harry potter, fantastic beats doesn't even cross my mind. Same with Lord of the rings. I don't think of the Hobbit movies.

MCU.

Star Wars has The Last Jedi. That trainwreck alone eliminates Star Wars.

Star Wars: #1=crap, #2=weak, #3= the prequel trilogy finally gets decent halfway through the third movie, #4= really good, #5= maybe even better, #6= pretty freaking good, #7= OK, #8= weak. #9? It would have to be one of the greatest movies of all time to pull this franchise up to where it's as entertaining as the entire MCU. We all know that's not going to happen. And that makes me sad, to have to vote against Star Wars.

MCU for me. Even the poorly received flicks like Thor and Iron Man 2 were enjoyable for me. At their best, they're legitimately some of my favorite movies of all time.

Star Wars is culturally important, but there have been eight live-action films by now and only the original trilogy and Revenge of the Sith are good. The others range from absolute garbage to never going to bother watching again... Clone Wars is awesome, though. I'll give them that.

I'll also maintain that the lore and extended universes that have spawned from the IP are a lot better than any of the actual products put on screen.

MCU all day. The last SW movie I’ve seen was Return of the Jedi.

agreed

This poll is such ****ing bullshit.

Yes, let's compare one franchise with one story about one set of characters to about twelve with origin stories for each main character and stories that have, in some cases, NOTHING to do with the other stories...but count all that together as one franchise.

It should be the entire Lucasfilm catalog against the entire MCU catalog if you're going to do this bullshit.

MCU has Howard The Duck.

Man that superhero stuff is pretty popular. Thor is pretty good.

All I know is Lea Thompson.

Lea Thompson was a straight up dime in her time.

Cheech and Chong

I could have predicted these two in the final. NERDS!!!!!!!!!!!!


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Indy and Star Wars do not tie in together in any way. All of the MCU films do.

Go back and watch the old Bonds. They were shit.

No, it doesn't.

Indy and Star Wars take place in the same universe. Star Wars just happened a long time ago in a galaxy far far away.

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It's going to be hilarious if the MCU ends up winning this by a combined total of like 5 votes in the final 3 rounds. It's becoming pretty clear to me that it's a franchise of people who love it and others who don't give any shits.

And here you have the overwhelming influence of millennials and ‘Big Bang Theory’ fanboyz.

Look. MCU has done some solid movies, no argument. But to have MCU as the greatest movie franchise of all time over some of the others that have been in this contest is an absolute joke. It makes this place looked reeruned. MCU didn’t change the way people make films, it didn’t create a new genre, it doesn’t really have a true ‘iconic’ character (actor) that will stand the test of time. It will be remembered as a fun set of movies with some really cool special effects. Nothing more, nothing less. But I digress . . . . .

With all that said, comic book nerds rise and enjoy your moment.

Eh, I don't know that that's fair. The MCU has shown that you can construct a series out of a huge number of different storylines and characters. DC is now trying to play catchup, so it clearly has had an influence on the "way people make films." It doesn't have an iconic character, but the overall arc that was just concluded will certainly stand the test of time as iconic. Hell, it's about to have the first BILLION dollar WEEKEND (worldwide) in film. It's having a HUGE influence on the industry right now.

I certainly understand that it's not for everyone, but calling it a "fun set of movies with some really cool special effects" makes it pretty clear you're not really paying much attention.

Take this poll before Last Jedi and it would be quite different.

Yeah, timing is a part of it. It’s no coincidence that this poll is closing on the opening weekend of Endgame (gotta get those last minutes extra votes to ensure victory). :rolleyes: But whatever, it’s an Internet BB poll.

I’m more sad about the fact that the majority of my fellow Chiefs fans on this BB believe that it IS the greatest movie franchise of all time. :shake:

Remembered? I’ve forgotten them already. Or at least confused them with the Transformers.

Even if true the stories do not connect, let alone intertwine and converge at a focal point.

Did you not pick up that the Crystal Skull was that fish guy who recognized the trap?

The MCU perfected the shared universe approach. I can't even think of any shared universe attempts on this level prior to the MCU. Their success has spawned the DCEU, the failed Universal monsterverse, and now the Godzilla-Kong monsterverse as well.

RDJ's Iron Man is also pretty damned iconic. Based on this board's demographics and nostalgia, I wouldn't think he'd win, but he'd certainly belong if DaFace started a Most Iconic Movie Character tournament.

I just made that up anyway, but it could be true.

I just wish CPers weren't such philistines otherwise Zatoichi movie franchise would've won this

I don't vote for movies that don't use real words for their titles.

Star Wars, as a franchise, ****ing sucks.

2 good movies, 4 if you squint. More legitimately bad movies than good ones. Marvel spins out 4 watchable flicks like it's taking a dump and has maybe 2 real misses on the roster.

This is easy.

LOTR/HOBBIT > marvel crapverse

If MCU had come out over 30 years ago, and SW was the new flick, I don't think there would be a comparison. SW all the way.

:clap:

LOL ... Star Wars.

Jar Jar would be like, "Me happy!"

FAX

Pfffffttt!

Jar Jar say, "Me want be in MCU!"

FAX

Tell him to put on a visor or some headgear and a leotard and he'll fit right in.

You actually think Star Wars' age is working AGAINST it? That's crazy. I LOVE Star Wars, but it's legend has grown over the years beyond what's warranted. Especially considering the unwatchable mess of episodes 1-3.

Great (IMO) movies in the MCU:
Iron Man
CA: TFA
Avengers
CA: TWS
GOTG
Ant-Man
CA: CW
Doctor Strange
GOTG2
Spider-Man: Homecoming
Ragnarok
Black Panther
Infinity War
Captain Marvel
Endgame

Great movies in SW:
New Hope
Empire Strikes Back

TURDS:
Marvel: IM3, Ultron
SW: Phantom Menace, Clone Wars, most of Sith, ANH, TLJ

MCU: 15 great out of 22 IMO, 2 turds
SW: 2 great out of 8, 4-1/2 turds

This is no contest. The MCU kicks the shit out of the Star Wars films. The first SW film was one of the most amazing in history because it was a fortutitous combination of special effects and storytelling (although the story is a ripoff of Japanese cinema) at a specific point in time. "A New Hope" is like The Beatles: it can't be measured outside of when it happened. "Empire" was a very solid follow-up. The rest has sucked balls. The MCU, on the other hand, has produced consistenly entertaining and very solid offerings.

all tied up ****s

Sounds legit.

I assumed you were making it up but covered myself just in case I had missed something.

I suppose the upcoming episode IX could have Han Solo’s kid exiled from that galaxy and he ends up on earth, starts a family and one of his kids begets someone who, begets someone, who begets someone, and so one and so forth until Henry “Indiana” Jones comes into the world. That would tie the two stories together and use genetics to explain Harrison Ford used as two different people in the same universe.

How is it even this close?

Give me a ****ing break

Star Wars changed the way movies are made, its pop culture influence is pervasive to this day

HAHA. SUCK IT MCU!!!

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I have seen the pop cultural argument in one form or another throughout this tournament. I fail to see how it is a relevant argument between these two. I see MCU references and merchandise everywhere and on the same scale if not beyond what I see from Star Wars. The phone I am using to type this response is in a Captain America case. RDJ’s portrayal of Iron Man is not only beloved but will likely be considered iconic in time if it is not already. “The snap” is referenced in multiple ways throughout our society.

I voted MCU but I am not hard fast on it. And if this was a vote on the totality of franchises and not just films I’d probably vote the other way. I say this to show that my point is not about arguing in favor of the MCU but, to argue the pop culture angle. I just don’t see it here.

You’re welcome to your opinion, but there is just no way to leave out the influence SW had on not only movie making itself, but pop culture in general when discussing the merits of the two IMO

Well hell, if that's our metric, Steamboat Willie (the first Mickey Mouse cartoon) should have topped the list.

Hahaha wha? There’s no comparison to be made there

Do you dispute that either 1) the first commercially successful cartoon completely changed what people thought of as what a movie even is or that 2) Mickey Mouse has had a huge influence on pop culture? Those are the two criteria you mentioned. I don't think that it's even debatable that both of those traits are far stronger for Steamboat Willie than they were for Star Wars.

I'm not arguing that it SHOULD be at the top of this competition. I'm just suggesting that your criteria are clearly a bit flawed.

You’re talking about a cartoon from the 30s that while revolutionary was also just a cartoon... not a movie with live actors and real FX

Are you disputing that cartoons are a viable form of film? We had a number of cartoon franchises nominated for this tournament, some of which (Toy Story and Shrek) even won their original matchups. Not only that, but you could argue that cartoons are the predecessor to all video effects, again pointing to the huge influence that Mickey Mouse has had on the film industry as a whole.

My point really is that it's easy to have a big influence on the industry in the early days since there was much less established as you go earlier in time. That's why your criteria alone don't really add up to much.

WHATEVER MAN STAR WARS BETTER WIN

LOL ...

Emotions running high on this battle.

Jar Jar say, "Me no like fight. But me wants leotard."

FAX

I can't believe the Lucasfilm copycat company even managed to make it this close.

Disgraceful.

You do realize almost every MCU movie has the same exact plotline, or a variation thereof, right?

Do you even understand what I just said? Disney had nothing to do with that statement/post.