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Hog's Gone Fishin 04-27-2019 07:01 AM

Veach 2nd day Presser
 
He seems absolutely Giddy. They've built one heck of a D Line.

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TwistedChief 04-27-2019 07:25 AM

Agreed. This seems like a much more satisfying result than after day 2 last year. Veach did what he needed to do.

tmax63 04-27-2019 08:21 AM

This makes me think he has a plan. His plan may not agree with some of the "GM"s here but I'm glad it doesn't.

OKchiefs 04-27-2019 08:36 AM

Does his plan ever include obtaining a cornerback in the draft?

YayMike 04-27-2019 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by OKchiefs (Post 14236162)
Does his plan ever include obtaining a cornerback in the draft?

Part of me thinks the vast improvements to the four and the safeties really minimize the need for a high round picks on a corner this year.

We will see a lot of 3 safety packers with Juan, Badger, and Sorensen/Lucas. Even Watts, that’s a HUGE upgrade over last year.

I imagine our remaining picks are TE and OL

RunKC 04-27-2019 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by OKchiefs (Post 14236162)
Does his plan ever include obtaining a cornerback in the draft?

Juan Thornhill player corner every year but last year in college. Honey Badger played a lot snaps at corner last year.

They will both be logging snaps there

tmax63 04-27-2019 08:46 AM

If I remember correctly Thornhill played CB for 2 years before going to S his last year. Pretty sure one of his big plusses is ball skills and being able to play both.

TwistedChief 04-27-2019 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by tmax63 (Post 14236174)
If I remember correctly Thornhill played CB for 2 years before going to S his last year. Pretty sure one of his big plusses is ball skills and being able to play both.

This is true.

I think Veach would've drafted a corner if one that he liked had fell to him in the 2nd or if he were able to trade up, but it just didn't happen. So he settled for a free safety with good coverage skills.

The need to draft a replacement for Hill really limited some of Veach's flexibility last night.

huskerdooz 04-27-2019 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 14236172)
Juan Thornhill player corner every year but last year in college. Honey Badger played a lot snaps at corner last year.

They will both be logging snaps there


Quote:

Originally Posted by tmax63 (Post 14236174)
If I remember correctly Thornhill played CB for 2 years before going to S his last year. Pretty sure one of his big plusses is ball skills and being able to play both.

Why let facts get in the way of a good bitch session?

OKchiefs 04-27-2019 08:55 AM

I think we're okay at corner this year. I'm worried about next year and beyond. We have Ward in 2020 and that's about it. We could be in a situation of having to do whatever necessary to get a corner in 2020 draft.

Skyy God 04-27-2019 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by YayMike (Post 14236167)
Part of me thinks the vast improvements to the four and the safeties really minimize the need for a high round picks on a corner this year.

We will see a lot of 3 safety packers with Juan, Badger, and Sorensen/Lucas. Even Watts, that’s a HUGE upgrade over last year.

I imagine our remaining picks are TE and OL

Probably C, TE, and RB or WR.

Best22 04-27-2019 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by OKchiefs (Post 14236198)
I think we're okay at corner this year. I'm worried about next year and beyond. We have Ward in 2020 and that's about it. We could be in a situation of having to do whatever necessary to get a corner in 2020 draft.

One of Breeland or Fuller will probably be resigned

tmax63 04-27-2019 09:10 AM

I want to see how Reaser from the AAF shows this year. With the time spent to play and develop with the AAF he might surprise. Full time practice and play for several months helps a lot more than a couple of minicamps and OTAs. Most of the coaches were fairly well known, not just old washed up no-name players.

Redbled 04-27-2019 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by TwistedChief (Post 14236193)
This is true.

I think Veach would've drafted a corner if one that he liked had fell to him in the 2nd or if he were able to trade up, but it just didn't happen. So he settled for a free safety with good coverage skills.

The need to draft a replacement for Hill really limited some of Veach's flexibility last night.

I'm not sure we still didn't take a receiver with our first pick anyway. You can't count on Watkins and you didn't want Robinson as your 2 even if we had Hill.

oldman 04-27-2019 12:13 PM

There's a lot of blurring of lines between a S and a CB in today's NFL. I liked the Thornhill pick a lot. And who doesn't like a big guy that can do a back flip? Only Russians and North Koreans, that's who. My only question now is can he throw a TD pass to PMII? That'd have to be the highlight clip of the year.

The Franchise 04-27-2019 12:17 PM

We would have traded up for a CB if it wasn’t for Tyreek Hill’s worthless ass.

Buckweath 04-27-2019 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by OKchiefs (Post 14236198)
I think we're okay at corner this year. I'm worried about next year and beyond. We have Ward in 2020 and that's about it. We could be in a situation of having to do whatever necessary to get a corner in 2020 draft.

Not a chance.

This team needs another decent corner in a bad way.

Going into a SB year with just Fuller/Ward/Breeland at CB is one huge gamble.

Halfcan 04-27-2019 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Buckweath (Post 14236537)
Not a chance.

This team needs another decent corner in a bad way.

Going into a SB year with just Fuller/Ward/Breeland at CB is one huge gamble.

I agree - I bet we sign at least 2 more before camp. UDFA and possible a trade.

Cosmos 04-27-2019 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 14236531)
We would have traded up for a CB if it wasn’t for Tyreek Hill’s worthless ass.

Hill changed our draft...

oldman 04-27-2019 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Buckweath (Post 14236537)
Not a chance.

This team needs another decent corner in a bad way.

Going into a SB year with just Fuller/Ward/Breeland at CB is one huge gamble.

We have a couple more on the squad right now, but I agree we need a couple more to choose from. They don't have to be a top-notch, shutdown corner, just serviceable.

SAUTO 04-27-2019 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 14236531)
We would have traded up for a CB if it wasn’t for Tyreek Hill’s worthless ass.

The deal was done

The Franchise 04-27-2019 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by SAUTO (Post 14236574)
The deal was done

Hill’s new deal?

SAUTO 04-27-2019 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 14236593)
Hill’s new deal?

The trade up. Contingent on our guy being there of course. And by the comments about CBS it sounds like he was

The Franchise 04-27-2019 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by SAUTO (Post 14236601)
The trade up. Contingent on our guy being there of course. And by the comments about CBS it sounds like he was

Are you talking about the trade up for Hardman or a different one for a CB that fell through?

SAUTO 04-27-2019 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 14236605)
Are you talking about the trade up for Hardman or a different one for a CB that fell through?

I thought we were talking about the hill situation ****ing up our draft strategy and trading back into the first.

Nothing fell through, we had a deal made. We backed out during the first round. Who we were after I have no clue but judging by veach comments about cbs going early 2nd and figuring they would i'm betting we were after one.

Tribesman 04-27-2019 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Cosmos (Post 14236553)
Hill changed our draft...

That would've REALLY sucked if the audio of Hill wasn't released until after the draft.


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