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Mr_Tomahawk 04-27-2019 03:18 PM

How would you Grade this Draft?
 
WR Mecole Hardman (Georgia)
S Juan Thornhill (Virginia)
DT Khalen Saunders (W. Illinois)
CB Rashad Fenton (S. Carolina)
RB Darwin Thompson (Utah St)
C Nick Allegretti (Illinois)

Poll coming...

Sassy Squatch 04-27-2019 03:19 PM

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philfree 04-27-2019 03:23 PM

You have to include Frank Clark. He makes it an A-

Iconic 04-27-2019 03:25 PM

Thornhill
Darwin
Saunders
Hardman

That's an A+ from me man. Wow. Offense got arguably better while losing Hill, and defense got A LOT better. Veach put in work.

oldman 04-27-2019 03:26 PM

I'm going to give it a B+ right now. None of these guys have even put on NFL pads, let alone played a snap. If it turns out like Veach and Andy thinks it will, groovy, an easy A.

stumppy 04-27-2019 03:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by philfree (Post 14237288)
You have to include Frank Clark. He makes it an A-

Yup

kcclone 04-27-2019 03:28 PM

Of course, we won't really know for two years, but based on what I see on film, I'll give it a B+.

The only disappointment is not having another pick or two, but you have to remind yourself that we added Honey Badger and Clark.

ntexascardfan 04-27-2019 03:28 PM

The board fell our way and made the Frank Clark deal look like a good one.

I think we did a good job accounting for the potential loss of Hill

I believe Thornhill will be a good compliment to Mathieu in the secondary and I like the flexibility we are building back there

I was so so on the DB

However, I think Darwin Thompson is a great fit for the offense and am intrigued by Allegretti.

I think we're in OK shape.

VAGOMO 4 LIFE! 04-27-2019 03:29 PM

A+!! Every single one of these guys will contribute this year. Trade for Kyle Rudolph and PP and game over!

Simplicity 04-27-2019 03:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE! (Post 14237317)
A+!! Every single one of these guys will contribute this year. Trade for Kyle Rudolph and PP and game over!

If Veach somehow pulls off a PP and Kyle Rudolph pick up I am not sure if I can wait till August/September

tmax63 04-27-2019 03:36 PM

Gave it a B since it's way to early to predict anything. Did do a good job of getting what appeared to value at the picks and got players where there was a need most of the time. Really don't remember any wtf? picks the draft. They usually have at least 1 or 2.

staylor26 04-27-2019 03:38 PM

A-

The only reason it’s not an A+ is because we didn’t come away with a corner on day 2, but I understand that the guys they liked went early in the 2nd and after the Tyreek situation we really needed to keep all of our day 2 picks.

Simplicity 04-27-2019 03:40 PM

So with Veach ignoring the CB position for the most part... Should the assumption be he is satisfied with the position as it sits right now? or... He is aggressively trying to pursue trade options (PP, Rhodes, Waynes, etc) and is confident in the outcome?

VAGOMO 4 LIFE! 04-27-2019 03:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Simplicity (Post 14237355)
So with Veach ignoring the CB position for the most part... Should the assumption be he is satisfied with the position as it sits right now? or... He is aggressively trying to pursue trade options (PP, Rhodes, Waynes, etc) and is confident in the outcome?

This year I’m happy with it but Breeland is only here one year. Breeland and Ward are fine starting CBS with Fuller

TwistedChief 04-27-2019 03:43 PM

A+. Clark was genius. Adjusted well on the fly to the Hill situation while being able to add some versatility in the secondary. Saunders looks really promising. Took a flyer on a speedy RB and added potential interior OL depth.

If we had just faced the Hill stuff and had the same flavor of draft as last year, I might’ve joined hands with Mahomo and jumped off a cliff. But there was a method and plan here well executed.

VAGOMO 4 LIFE! 04-27-2019 03:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TwistedChief (Post 14237362)
A+. Clark was genius. Adjusted well on the fly to the Hill situation while being able to add some versatility in the secondary. Saunders looks really promising. Took a flyer on a speedy RB and added potential interior OL depth.

If we had just faced the Hill stuff and had the same flavor of draft as last year, I might’ve joined hands with Mahomo and jumped off a cliff. But there was a method and plan here well executed.

Veach is a GM god!! I feel like he isn’t done yet either. A #2 TE and another WR. Plus don’t be surprised if Rudolph is a Chief

CaliforniaChief 04-27-2019 03:47 PM

I went B+. Filled some needs, brought in some good players.

The Franchise 04-27-2019 03:48 PM

B+ and only because we didn’t get one of the CBs in the 2nd round. Thanks Hill.

CatfishBob2 04-27-2019 03:59 PM

B...First three picks were great. Moving up twice caused us to miss out on more help at WR and LB

ThaVirus 04-27-2019 04:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iconic (Post 14237299)
Thornhill
Darwin
Saunders
Hardman

That's an A+ from me man. Wow. Offense got arguably better while losing Hill, and defense got A LOT better. Veach put in work.

Get the **** outta here. On paper, if we lose Hill, this offense got worse.

Easy 6 04-27-2019 04:09 PM

To generalize our free agency together with this draft, this offseason in total has been a solid A

Strong on defense, yet expertly sprinkled in the offensive spark picks like Thompson and Hardman to cover the Hill fiasco on the fly... just imagine being a GM blasted in the face by this deal during the draft

Veach has so far weathered an incredible series of shitstorms very adeptly

Lose Hunt, there’s Williams

Lose Hill, here comes Hardman and Thompson

Brett Veach finessed the shit out of this situation

VAGOMO 4 LIFE! 04-27-2019 04:10 PM

Thank god this shit came out right before the draft

Kiimo 04-27-2019 04:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 14237401)
Get the **** outta here. On paper, if we lose Hill, this offense got worse.

Hill was gone before the draft began so yes technically the offense got better.

I'm extremely excited to see the first time Hardman or Thompson break into the open field this preseason.

KChiefs1 04-27-2019 04:14 PM

Emanuel Hall is available as a UDFA.

VAGOMO 4 LIFE! 04-27-2019 04:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KChiefs1 (Post 14237413)
Emanuel Hall is available as a UDFA.

Veach make my dream come true!! Max Raymond too

KC_Lee 04-27-2019 04:17 PM

A-

VAGOMO 4 LIFE! 04-27-2019 04:17 PM

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Warrior5 04-27-2019 04:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE! (Post 14237317)
A+!! Every single one of these guys will contribute this year. Trade for Kyle Rudolph and PP and game over!

If we just get PP, I'll give the total off-season an A.

Standing by...

Kiimo 04-27-2019 04:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KChiefs1 (Post 14237413)
Emanuel Hall is available as a UDFA.

We should sign him to the PUP list

O.city 04-27-2019 04:28 PM

Blah


Big bag of dicks

Hammock Parties 04-27-2019 04:29 PM

A+

Jamie 04-27-2019 04:38 PM

Mahomes skews the average in favor of 2017, but top to bottom this might be my favorite draft class since 2008.

TLO 04-27-2019 04:42 PM

Who the hell knows.

Naptown Chief 04-27-2019 04:43 PM

I give the Chiefs of Kansas City, who are my favorite team in or around the world, an A. If we include drop kicking Ford, Houston, and Berry, while also trading for Clark and signing Bashaud "The Messiah" Breeland, then my dear Veachie Poo gets an A+ !!!

I'm excited...

Chiefshrink 04-27-2019 04:45 PM

Where was our TE pick??? :#

FAX 04-27-2019 04:45 PM

IMO, Clark The Conqueror really should be included in this draft analysis.

FAX

Chiefshrink 04-27-2019 04:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TLO (Post 14237482)
Who the hell knows.

Exactly !!;)

Chiefshrink 04-27-2019 04:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FAX (Post 14237492)
IMO, Clark The Conqueror really should be included in this draft analysis.

FAX

Absolutely !! Because there is no way in Hades that a 29th pick would even come close to carrying Clark's jock.;)

O.city 04-27-2019 05:02 PM

Blah

Easy 6 04-27-2019 05:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiefshrink (Post 14237488)
Where was our TE pick??? :#

THANKS HILL

RunKC 04-27-2019 05:08 PM

B+

Thought we needed a corner earlier and a TE. Like all the picks though.

Best22 04-27-2019 05:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iconic (Post 14237299)
Thornhill
Darwin
Saunders
Hardman

That's an A+ from me man. Wow. Offense got arguably better while losing Hill, and defense got A LOT better. Veach put in work.

I don’t think the offense got better (assuming no Hill). But it’ll be different and should be very good

Defense got better though

Munson 04-27-2019 05:11 PM

I gave it a B. It's a hell of a lot better than last year's draft.

Thornhill is the best pick, and should start right away.

Hardman will have plenty of opportunities to shine.

Saunders should get action as a sub for Nnadi and Jones.

Iconic 04-27-2019 05:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Best22 (Post 14237577)
I don’t think the offense got better (assuming no Hill). But it’ll be different and should be very good

Defense got better though

I'm really, really high on Darwin. Hardman might not be able to equal what Hill did here but I think with the addition of Darwin they can combine to do more damage.

Hammock Parties 04-27-2019 05:18 PM

We don't need Hardman to be Reek.

If he can just be JJ Birden or Willie Davis and Watkins can pick up the slack we'll be fine.

PHOG 04-27-2019 05:20 PM

Well, its a little early to know for sure.

FAX 04-27-2019 05:25 PM

Wally converted Tyreek from a running back into one of the most feared receivers in the league. That's a big jump right there. We'll see what he can do with Hardman (who is no Tyreek Hill at this stage).

As we know, the problem with draft analysis is that nobody knows how well these guys will take coaching and what their rate of improvement is going to be. It helps when you have an established system in place and elite players at key positions, though. We have that on offense ... defense is another matter entirely. Although, I really like the way our D-line looks on paper.

FAX

ROYC75 04-27-2019 05:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Easy 6 (Post 14237407)
To generalize our free agency together with this draft, this offseason in total has been a solid A

Strong on defense, yet expertly sprinkled in the offensive spark picks like Thompson and Hardman to cover the Hill fiasco on the fly... just imagine being a GM blasted in the face by this deal during the draft

Veach has so far weathered an incredible series of shitstorms very adeptly

Lose Hunt, there’s Williams

Lose Hill, here comes Hardman and Thompson

Brett Veach finessed the shit out of this situation

:clap:

There really wasn't any other way of looking at this that this!

Defense is a complete overhaul and MUCH better.

Offense got shelled shocked (Hill) to come out like we did.

And before anybody starts shitting on me, Let's Go Hardman, learn that damn book, top to bottom and become a fast learner! Rather I wanted you or Campbell isn't the question anymore, you are it, you are up, put on the " BIG BOY " shoes and get to work, do us all proud( and yourself ).

So here we are, are we better than last year?

I'm going to say YES.
OFFENSE: I expect Andy to take our players we have and make it work.
DEFENSE: Spags has his work cut out for him making them all learn their assignments.

Overall: I feel Andy will find the production , somehow,maybe not as explosive, but enough to go along with a better defense that will help offset anything Tyreek Hill.

Pundits will all say,How do you replace Hill?
With who ?

It's not with who, it's HOW!

By certain players on offense stepping up as well as Andy getting more creative as well as our defense being better, slowing teams down, not allowing as many points and being able to make that stop in critical times!

Molitoth 04-27-2019 05:42 PM

Considering Tyreek threw them a curveball, this draft was ****ing nailed.

Good job Veach and scouts.


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