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Rain Man 07-07-2019 06:20 PM

Adrian Peterson illustrates why some athletes quickly go broke.
 
I'll link to support journalism and spam ads, but the bottom line is that he took out a $4 million loan in 2016 at a 15 percent interest rate. He then missed the first payment which, according to the agreement, caused the interest rate to rise to 23 percent.

He paid some of it back, but the balance was due in 2018 and now he's been in court and has been ordered to pay $2.4 million.

So let's talk about everything that he did wrong here.

1. First off, you have career earnings of $99 million to date. Why do you need a loan in the first place?

2. Second, you got a loan at a 15 percent interest rate, which then rose to 23 percent? Really? Were you shopping for the highest rate you could find? Did you misunderstand that a lower rate is better?

3. Here's the web site of the company that loaned him the money. https://www.democracycapital.com/ It looks like a 14 year-old created the web site in ten minutes. If you do a whois on that site, you end up on this site http://jimplacknews.com/, where some guy is making an argument that he can help athletes manage their money, apparently by securing loans for them at outrageous interest rates.

4. If you're going to borrow a large amount of money at usury rates, don't miss a payment and pay it off as soon as possible.

What on earth was so valuable to Adrian Peterson that he would do something like this? This whole thing is pretty much the stupidest thing I've ever seen anyone do. If he borrowed $4 million at a 23 percent interest rate, that means that he's been paying about $1 million a year in interest over the past two years. He's grossing about $2.5 million per year with the Redskins https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/washingt...peterson-4753/, so by the time you take out agent fees and taxes and stuff, he's been paying roughly two-thirds of his annual take-home income in INTEREST payments on this single loan.

Is Adrian mentally challenged or something? It seems like someone ought to get sued or arrested over this.

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/...d-pay-back-24m

It looks like it's not the first time he's done something like this, either. He borrowed $2.4 million in 2018 and defaulted on it. http://www.startribune.com/adrian-pe...000/473207503/ WTF are you doing, Adrian?

New World Order 07-07-2019 06:23 PM

23% interest rate on a 4 million dollar loan?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B0-QXXnCAAAJr1h.jpg

-King- 07-07-2019 06:24 PM

There are a lot of people aside from gold diggers whose sole job and purpose is taking advantage of athletes who don't know shit about money.

Why Not? 07-07-2019 06:25 PM

He’s never struck me as an Alfred Einstein type.

Rain Man 07-07-2019 06:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by New World Order (Post 14337517)
23% interest rate on a 4 million dollar loan?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B0-QXXnCAAAJr1h.jpg


If my math is right, the guy who loaned him the money has made twice as much money from Adrian over the past two years as Adrian has made.

I don't care how stupid Adrian must be. This guy ripped him off unless there's some amazing back story that we don't know about.

rabblerouser 07-07-2019 06:37 PM

Almost as bad as Andre Rison.

Neither of them have shit on Adrian Peterson, though.

displacedinMN 07-07-2019 06:40 PM

He is a dumb ****.

He got paid for 3 seasons where he did not play.

He is still a dumb ****.

vailpass 07-07-2019 06:41 PM

Pound of flesh and then some.

RunKC 07-07-2019 06:46 PM

Rain Man,

I found what Adrian Peterson bought with his loan.

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/4iotrbDHvM0" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Rasputin 07-07-2019 06:46 PM

They sure gave him a lashing with interest like a tree stick lashing.

ThaVirus 07-07-2019 06:50 PM

He's basically been using his head, neck and shoulders as a battering ram for probably the past 25 years.

Running backs usually aren't the brightest.

rabblerouser 07-07-2019 06:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC Tattoo (Post 14337545)
They sure gave him a lashing with interest like a tree stick lashing.

He got it in the balls.

InChiefsHeaven 07-07-2019 06:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 14337523)
If my math is right, the guy who loaned him the money has made twice as much money from Adrian over the past two years as Adrian has made.

I don't care how stupid Adrian must be. This guy ripped him off unless there's some amazing back story that we don't know about.

Every one on this site, or really anywhere, would be able to live quite well with a 1 million dollar windfall...this dude has that like many many times over. Add to that he's a college graduate (I'm not...)...I don't feel like the the loaner is a crook, rather the loanee is a friggin idiot...

Eleazar 07-07-2019 06:54 PM

He somehow had to make all his child support payments, and all the payday loan places in D.C. couldn’t combine for enough cash

Skyy God 07-07-2019 06:55 PM

Couldn’t happen to a nicer child beater.....

rabblerouser 07-07-2019 06:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eleazar (Post 14337554)
He somehow had to make all his child support payments, and all the payday loan places in D.C. couldn’t combine for enough cash

Not that AP is living a stereotype...but how many kids by how many different baby mamas he gots?

rabblerouser 07-07-2019 06:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cave Johnson (Post 14337555)
Couldn’t happen to a nicer child beater.....

ROFL
LMAO

stumppy 07-07-2019 06:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cave Johnson (Post 14337555)
Couldn’t happen to a nicer child beater.....

Child beating therapy ain't cheap.

Rain Man 07-07-2019 07:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 14337544)
Rain Man,

I found what Adrian Peterson bought with his loan.

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/4iotrbDHvM0" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture" allowfullscreen></iframe>

That actually would be worth it. I'd love to have a skull like that.

rabblerouser 07-07-2019 07:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stumppy (Post 14337561)
Child beating therapy ain't cheap.

You'd think the NFL + Redskins would be willing to foot the bill on that.

I'll bet the 12 kids from 9 different women costs a helluva lot more than the therapy...

Rain Man 07-07-2019 07:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rabblerouser (Post 14337565)
You'd think the NFL + Redskins would be willing to foot the bill on that.

I'll bet the 12 kids from 9 different women costs a helluva lot more than the therapy...

There are some pretty prolific athletes out there: https://www.complex.com/sports/2015/...tory/garrincha

displacedinMN 07-07-2019 07:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rabblerouser (Post 14337558)
Not that AP is living a stereotype...but how many kids by how many different baby mamas he gots?

at least 3 maybe more

FloridaMan88 07-07-2019 07:40 PM

Not as bad as Vince Young spending $5,000 a week at Cheesecake Factory.

Flying High D 07-07-2019 08:02 PM

CP pools some money together and make loan to AP for 22%. Win-win

MarkDavis'Haircut 07-07-2019 08:03 PM

Unfortunately, personal finance is rarely taught and most of these athletes think the gravy train will never derail.

rabblerouser 07-07-2019 08:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flying High D (Post 14337605)
CP pools some money together and make loan to AP for 22%. Win-win

****, I got $5 on it.

Why Not? 07-07-2019 08:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88 (Post 14337588)
Not as bad as Vince Young spending $5,000 a week at Cheesecake Factory.

Man, I don’t know about that. Some of their cheesecake is ****ing delicious!

displacedinMN 07-07-2019 08:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flying High D (Post 14337605)
CP pools some money together and make loan to AP for 22%. Win-win

Even at 22%, he gets nothing from me.

rabblerouser 07-07-2019 08:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Why Not? (Post 14337626)
Man, I don’t know about that. Some of their cheesecake is ****ing delicious!

It's pretty ****ing good...but not worth $5000.

rabblerouser 07-07-2019 08:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by displacedinMN (Post 14337629)
Even at 22%, he gets nothing from me.

That's fair; sounds like we'd get nothing from him.

displacedinMN 07-07-2019 08:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rabblerouser (Post 14337648)
That's fair; sounds like we'd get nothing from him.

Neither did the Vikings for three seasons.

MahiMike 07-07-2019 08:46 PM

If it wasn't for football, we'd never have heard of him and he wouldn't be so broke now.

rabblerouser 07-07-2019 08:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by displacedinMN (Post 14337662)
Neither did the Vikings for three seasons.

BOOM!

ThaVirus 07-07-2019 09:32 PM

This isn't strictly an athlete thing either.

I had an old coworker with a girlfriend who bought a used car with a loan sporting either 18 or 23% interest, I can't remember which exactly. I just remember being floored when he told me.

Iowanian 07-07-2019 09:35 PM

It's almost like his employer doesn't offer training on finances and making your money work for you.

It's almost like these guys never took any economy, finance or basic mathematics classes at a university they were paid via scholarship to attend.

Flying High D 07-07-2019 09:49 PM

I tutored football players at college, oh my it was brutal.

rabblerouser 07-07-2019 09:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iowanian (Post 14337735)
It's almost like his employer doesn't offer training on finances and making your money work for you.

It's almost like these guys never took any economy, finance or basic mathematics classes at a university they were paid via scholarship to attend.

It's almost like they didn't pay attention when they were told about those things at their rookie orientation...

Valiant 07-07-2019 10:08 PM

Most athletes are dumb as **** with money, regardless of color.

They don't want to listen to the boring rules and living not like a rockstar.

The main problem is these guys think they have the full amount and it is not going away for a long while.

Take a average player. In the league 3 years might make 1.4 million.
Taxes from everywhere, lucky to get 700k. But he bought him a house, car, momma a house and knocked up a gold digger. 200k left hopefully after not being picked up. Maybe he can sign in Canada. But child support will sap that money. Effectively broke, have to sell his house, hopefully he paid it off.

Player that signs a good contract extension, plays 8 or 9 years and makes 65million. Hopefully receives 30mil after everything. Buys momma a house gets him a 6million dollar home and multiple cars. Multiple kids. Taxes on cars and properties eat away. Then he finds out his friends or company stole 15 million.

These guys do not listen. Teams should pay ex players who went broke and a firm to tell them how to spread their money out for their lifetime to live off of.
They need a yearly reminder what happens.

Honestly, the first person to start this would make a killing from pro teams.

TinyEvel 07-07-2019 11:31 PM

Proof that even the highest paid can fall victim to the payday loan cycle of doom.

Demonpenz 07-07-2019 11:55 PM

being broke is different for these guys as well. I see bankrupt broke athletes still rolling in g-wagons

BryanBusby 07-08-2019 03:53 AM

I would imagine plenty of this has ate away his funds.

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/...birthday-party

rabblerouser 07-08-2019 04:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Valiant (Post 14337761)
These guys do not listen. Teams should pay ex players who went broke and a firm to tell them how to spread their money out for their lifetime to live off of.

They DO have that!

Young9Cothinho 07-08-2019 06:10 AM

There are a lot of people aside from gold diggers whose sole job and purpose is taking advantage of athletes who don't know shit about money. Running backs usually aren't the brightest.

smithandrew051 07-08-2019 06:16 AM

So many broke athletes. Millionaires attempting to live like billionaires is a recipe for disaster.

FringeNC 07-08-2019 07:22 AM

Unfortunately, a personal finance class isn't going to do much good. These athletes have financial advisors. It's an impulse control problem, and those are much harder to solve, especially for young men.

loochy 07-08-2019 07:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Valiant (Post 14337761)
Most athletes are dumb as **** with money, regardless of color.

<br />
<br />
What does color have to do with anything? Does melanin somehow influence certain regions of the brain?<br />
Quote:

Originally Posted by Valiant (Post 14337761)
<br />
These guys do not listen. Teams should pay ex players who went broke and a firm to tell them how to spread their money out for their lifetime to live off of.<br />
They need a yearly reminder what happens.

If these guys don't listen, then what's the point in hiring the ex players and the firm?<br />
<br />

Skyy God 07-08-2019 07:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BryanBusby (Post 14337818)
I would imagine plenty of this has ate away his funds.

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/...birthday-party

That’s right, the camel.

Pride of OU, that AD.

Red Dawg 07-08-2019 08:03 AM

Some of the bruthas in the NFL think they are more than they are. They think they can just do whatever they want. If you make 10 mil per year that's not enough to just do whatever you want. Have a 3 million dollar house is way to too much to spend.

BryanBusby 07-08-2019 08:07 AM

It's amazing how you manage to ****ing suck with every post.

Eleazar 07-08-2019 08:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rabblerouser (Post 14337558)
how many kids by how many different baby mamas he gots?

Around the time of his legal problems it was reported that there were 7, but he refused to say for himself how many there were.

cmh6476 07-08-2019 08:26 AM

I could see taking a loan out on a mortgage, because if you are solid with your investments your earnings should be more than the interest you get on a shorter term mortgage

:shrug:

loochy 07-08-2019 09:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cmh6476 (Post 14337949)
I could see taking a loan out on a mortgage, because if you are solid with your investments your earnings should be more than the interest you get on a shorter term mortgage

:shrug:

If you tried to explain that to these guys their heads would explode.

Rain Man 07-08-2019 09:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BryanBusby (Post 14337818)
I would imagine plenty of this has ate away his funds.

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/...birthday-party


Well, you only turn 30 once, so you might as well get the camel. I chose to enter atop a Galapagos turtle on my 30th, but that wasn't a good idea. I missed most of the party.

Flying High D 07-08-2019 09:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BryanBusby (Post 14337818)
I would imagine plenty of this has ate away his funds.

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/...birthday-party

He could got deployed to Iraq gotten paid to ride those. Win-win

displacedinMN 07-23-2019 08:40 PM

Update

Quote:

Former Vikings running back Adrian Peterson is returning for a 13th season in 2019 and it’s becoming clear why.

Peterson is apparently broke despite making more than a $100 million in salary and endorsements during his career.

Peterson, 34, who signed a two-year deal to return to the Washington Redskins for $8 million in March, rushed for 1,042 yards and seven touchdowns in 2018. It was his eighth 1,000-yard season. He ranks 8th all-time in rushing and needs less than 400 yards to pass LaDainian Tomlinson and Jerome Bettis for 6th all-time. With another 1,000-yard season he’d move ahead of Curtis Martin for 5th all-time.

“The truth behind Adrian Peterson’s current financial situation is more than is being reported at this time,” attorney Chase Carlson said in a statement reported by Pro Football Talk. “Because of ongoing legal matters, I am unable to go into detail, but I will say this is yet another situation of an athlete trusting the wrong people and being taken advantage of by those he trusted. Adrian and his family look forward to sharing further details when appropriate.”

Peterson played for the Vikings from 2007-16, winning the NFL’s Most Valuable Player award in 2012.

The Athletic first reported Peterson was being sued in Pennsylvania lender for failing to pay back a $5.2 million loan. He’s also been ordered by a judge to pay back a $2.4 million loan in Maryland. Last year a Minnesota judge ordered him to pay back $600,000 on a different $2.4 million loan.

rabblerouser 07-23-2019 08:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eleazar (Post 14337928)
Around the time of his legal problems it was reported that there were 7, but he refused to say for himself how many there were.

He probably doesn't even know, himself.

Buehler445 07-23-2019 08:56 PM

Holy ****ing **** ass balls. 100M and he's upside down. Wow.

Rain Man 07-23-2019 09:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 14361050)
Holy ****ing **** ass balls. 100M and he's upside down. Wow.

I really want to see a spreadsheet that shows his income year by year and his expenditures. I would pay $5 to any media outlet other than the Star or KCTV5 who did that.

Buehler445 07-23-2019 09:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 14361088)
I really want to see a spreadsheet that shows his income year by year and his expenditures. I would pay $5 to any media outlet other than the Star or KCTV5 who did that.

I'll pitch in. I used to do audit, and that would be a fascinating one.

big nasty kcnut 07-23-2019 10:15 PM

I would love to see a player not invest in anything big. lead a somewhat cheap life. Get stocks and invest in small things.

Chargem 07-24-2019 12:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by big nasty kcnut (Post 14361185)
I would love to see a player not invest in anything big. lead a somewhat cheap life. Get stocks and invest in small things.

It happens all the time, it's just that it's not as interesting a story

https://www.theplayerstribune.com/en...l-60000-budget

displacedinMN 07-24-2019 06:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by big nasty kcnut (Post 14361185)
I would love to see a player not invest in anything big. lead a somewhat cheap life. Get stocks and invest in small things.

I heard Adam Theilen is very frugal. He is not making the big money yet, but hates spending.

rabblerouser 07-24-2019 07:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by big nasty kcnut (Post 14361185)
I would love to see a player not invest in anything big. lead a somewhat cheap life. Get stocks and invest in small things.

Gotta live life like a rap video, bruh.

58-4ever 07-24-2019 09:51 AM

I'm sure you all saw his 30th bday party, with camels, first class tickets for 300 guests..etc... what an idiot.

Skyy God 07-24-2019 10:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by displacedinMN (Post 14361315)
I heard Adam Theilen is very frugal. He is not making the big money yet, but hates spending.

Thielen got paid, brah.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap300...-64m-extension

displacedinMN 07-24-2019 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Cave Johnson (Post 14361807)

Cool. I think he will still make his parents pay for supper when they come to town.

Skyy God 07-24-2019 10:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by displacedinMN (Post 14361818)
Cool. I think he will still make his parents pay for supper when they come to town.

Then he’s an asshole.

loochy 07-24-2019 10:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by big nasty kcnut (Post 14361185)
I would love to see a player not invest in anything big. lead a somewhat cheap life. Get stocks and invest in small things.

<br />
<br />
Kirk Cousins drove an old crappy dented van with 100k miles on it and lived in his parent's basement in the summer (even after he signed his first big contract).
<br />
Gronk never touched a dime of his actual salary and just lived off of endorsements and other monies.<br />
<br />
Lots of guys are smart with their money...we just don't hear about them because it doesn't make interesting news.

JohnnyHammersticks 07-24-2019 12:21 PM

Can you imagine doing all that potential damage to your brain and coming out of it with absolutely nothing? Check that - less than nothing. His pension won't even cover the interest.

What a maroon.

Setsuna 07-24-2019 12:38 PM

This is wrong. If you come to TC in a Brinks truck then you will go broke. - CP probably

displacedinMN 09-10-2024 10:55 AM

Quote:

Former NFL running back Adrian Peterson has been ordered by a Houston judge to turn over numerous assets as a means toward paying a debt that is estimated at more than $12 million.

The court-appointed receiver, Robert Berleth, requested this order in July and said Peterson "is known to have numerous assets" at his home in Missouri City, Texas. The Houston judge on Monday ordered constables in Fort Bend County, Texas, to accompany Berleth to Peterson's residence to keep the peace.


Former NFL MVP Adrian Peterson has been ordered by a Texas judge to turn over assets to settle a $12 million debt. John Nacion/Getty Images
Peterson's debt issues began when he took out a loan for $5.2 million from a Pennsylvania lending company in 2016. The sum has grown because of interest and attorney's fees, leading to an $8.3 million judgment against him in 2021.

"No offsets have been made against this judgment to date," the receiver stated in the July court filing.

Peterson, 39, last played in the NFL during the 2021 season.

A 2012 NFL MVP, four-time All-Pro and seven-time Pro Bowl selection, Peterson led the league in rushing three times in his 15-year career. He ranks fifth all-time with 14,918 rushing yards to go along with 90 touchdowns during 184 career games (167 starts) with seven teams, most notably the Minnesota Vikings (2007-16).

The only time he will not be broke is when he is dead. Then his 8 kids will assume the debt.

srvy 09-10-2024 11:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by -King- (Post 14337518)
There are a lot of people aside from gold diggers whose sole job and purpose is taking advantage of athletes who don't know shit about money.

They call them financial advisors.

Red Dawg 09-10-2024 11:22 AM

23% interest? That should be illegal. Even the mafia didn't charge that.

notorious 09-10-2024 11:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Red Dawg (Post 17673047)
23% interest? That should be illegal. Even the mafia didn't charge that.

Aren't credit cards legally capped at 17.9% APR now?

ptlyon 09-10-2024 11:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by loochy (Post 14361903)
<br />
<br />
Kirk Cousins drove an old crappy dented van with 100k miles on it and lived in his parent's basement in the summer (even after he signed his first big contract).
<br />
Gronk never touched a dime of his actual salary and just lived off of endorsements and other monies.<br />
<br />
Lots of guys are smart with their money...we just don't hear about them because it doesn't make interesting news.

A post that has both gronk and smart within - never want to see that again on CP

KCJake 09-10-2024 11:40 AM

Hell of a running back, I will say that

PatMahomesIsGod 09-10-2024 12:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by displacedinMN (Post 17672974)
The only time he will not be broke is when he is dead. Then his 8 kids will assume the debt.

Quote:

Originally Posted by notorious (Post 17673057)
Aren't credit cards legally capped at 17.9% APR now?

CP, a veritable treasure trove of terrible financial information.

Buehler445 09-10-2024 12:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by notorious (Post 17673057)
Aren't credit cards legally capped at 17.9% APR now?

Nah the crazies get worse than 30%

Buddy Rich 09-10-2024 12:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by -King- (Post 14337518)
There are a lot of people aside from gold diggers whose sole job and purpose is taking advantage of athletes who don't know shit about money.

Anti-Semitic post

notorious 09-10-2024 12:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 17673165)
Nah the crazies get worse than 30%

JFC


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