In case anyone hadn't decided on the KC Star yet
 

They're doubling down and hiding behind an 'editorial board' byline so nobody has to put their name on this shit.

https://amp.kansascity.com/opinion/e...mpression=true

**** Sam's apology, I dont care anymore.

I'm straight up done with the Star.

The star is reddit and the national media......they are all saying it changes nothing and he's just gaslighting her.

Really surprised anyone didn’t drop the Red Star mid 90s

i said in another thread that i cancelled my subscription (over 20 years) and sent my first e mail to let them know exactly why.

What a crock of shit. They dont put a name on it, fine and dandy. That means this article represents the entire KC Star newspapers position on Hill.

So ... believe what we tell you and not your lying ears.

Got it.

FAX

Yeah, the Star is just another shit rag.

They can go guck themselves.

What the **** is up with the media in KC not being able to admit when they’ve done wrong? A much sounder approach than continuing to be stubborn and act like they can’t possibly make a mistake.

**** the Star with a long, fat meaty wang x a billion.

The writer of this in particular should be shot to Venus.

/the90s

The Star has been a liberal turd for years i wouldnt even use it to catch dog droppings

I’m starting to get nervous that this is going to blow up into such huge ordeal, that we won’t see Tyreek in a Chiefs uniform for more than this year. Instead of realizing the error of their ways, the media seems to be digging in their heels. I just hope it doesn’t become such a fight that the Chiefs and Hill part ways just to make it all stop. It’s all such a huge **** storm.

Thank God Terez still writes a lot of Chiefs content. Nate Taylor is good too

I am quite sure my dog would shit on it, given the chance.

Just stick close to Chewie and Lando.

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This has to be Pryor, right?

Like I don’t know who the **** else there would care enough to come out like this AND hide behind the editorial board title.

In terms of podcasts, 4th and 1 with Nick Jacobs has been solid through this as well.

Why the **** wouldn't they put a name on this?

To protect Brooke—my guess.

I just stumbled on this and was going to share. This passage right here:

And if anything, the fact that Hill now says he didn’t hit punch or choke Espinal in 2014 makes him look worse rather than better. He pleaded guilty to those charges, publicly apologized, went through extensive therapy and declared himself reformed after probation. If he’s now back to saying that none of this ever happened, that’s not just a lie but a worrying one.

“I didn’t touch you in 2014,” he says on the tape. “And put that on everything I love, bro. That’s the real truth.”

That Espinal isn’t screaming at him that no, it’s not the truth, real or otherwise, is taken by some supporters as proof that he is innocent.

**** you and your psycho babble, KC Star. How about Occam's Razor: That Tyreek pled to a much lesser charge to make it go away.

Pryor has to go YESTERDAY. Would think that she’d want to leave at this point because she will never be treated with respect here again.

What a fly by night outfit.

The human pin cushion of the office

Typically editorial boards are different people than beat writers or columnists. I'm not saying it COULDN'T be her, but I seriously doubt it.

There's really nothing false in what they wrote, but go ahead and burn all the witches

So the full recording does make him look worse?

Gonna need an explanation on that one.

Actually, it may be this Colleen Nelson person:

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">While some Tyreek Hill fans have been quick to proclaim his innocence, the recording released this week doesn&#39;t change the disturbing facts in this case. And the NFL shouldn&#39;t let the Chiefs wide receiver off with a slap on the wrist.<br>from <a href="https://twitter.com/KCStarOpinion?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@KCStarOpinion</a> <a href="https://t.co/BFlKXse2xk">https://t.co/BFlKXse2xk</a></p>&mdash; Colleen Nelson (@ColleenMNelson) <a href="https://twitter.com/ColleenMNelson/status/1149668130303729664?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 12, 2019</a></blockquote>
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Yep, appears that way. My bad on assuming Pryor. Although I’m sure she loved the read...

The Star has planted itself in a far more honorable position than the bleating goats of Chiefs Planet. Their editorial board has my respect.

Goddamn you are a ****ing moron.

Her tweets fit the tone of the article. Full SJW. Being chastised by these wanna-be theocrats is getting so old.

As they stated, he admitted in a courtroom that he was guilty of abusing her. The fact that he's going back on that testimony now that he's past the legal consequences and claiming that he never did anything wrong is a typical pattern of an abuser.

You may not like the Star pointing this out, and maybe Hill really has reformed since 2014, but it's still true that this is typical of an unreformed abuser.

The most sure way of telling if someone is guilty of something is to accuse them of it. If they deny it, then they're certainly guilty. It worked in Salem and it can work today.

But what does saying that this is "a typical pattern of an abuser" without pointing out that people actually do plead guilty to things they did not do every single day in this country (take it from a criminal defense lawyer who has negotiated dozens of plea agreements with federal and state prosecutors) actually accomplish other than skewing the narrative in a potentially unfair direction?

LMAO

As if it’s that cut and dry.

The plea deal may be the only reason he got a chance in the NFL in the first place. Timing of everything was huge, no prison time, etc.

All I know is that when you’re sitting there and swearing on “everything you love” about something including your kid, and the other person has no response, I listen up. Maybe that’s not that big of a deal to Tyreek, but for me personally, I’m not saying that before a lie.

And he's saying this 5 years after the fact, without knowledge he's being recorded.

He admitted in a court of law that he was guilty of the accusations. He didn't enter an alford plea, he didn't plead no contest, he plead guilty. Any attempt you make to say that he wasn't guilty opposes his own statements in a court of law to the contrary.

Stunning that you feel the way you do on this issue being a Broncos fan and all. ROFL

That just does it! I'm stopping semen delivery to their office and they'll be forced to revert back to gargling with Listerine!

Preparing a massive twitter nuke. LMAO

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I never said he didn't. I merely pointed out--correctly--that folks often plead guilty to charges in court when they didn't do what prosecutors allege they did. There are myriad reasons for that, as I'm sure you're aware.

I don't see many people saying he's 100% innocent. I think people truly don't know anymore.

However, it does appear that he did what he had to do to not only stay out of prison, but to continue his football career.

Take your chances with a white jury in Oklahoma, or accept a plea offer that lets you continue your life's dream?

I mean, it's a pretty obvious choice. I think people are just asking the Star to consider the possibility, instead of furthering the narrative that he's a monster just because he denies it 5 years later.

While being unknowingly recorded.

Make your voice heard. You are the consumer. Newspapers exist to serve the public. When they begin to serve an agenda, it can, should and is affecting their business.

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First, you want to reach out to Tony Berg, the President and Publisher of the KC Star. He is easily reachable at [email protected] or [email protected].

Second, you will want to contact Dan Schaub, the Corporate Director of Audience Development at McClatchy. He is easily reachable at [email protected].

Third, you can reach out to Kevin McClatchy, the Chairman of McClatchy. He is easily reachable at [email protected] or [email protected].

Anyone else to loop into this?

Anybody notice how they changed the supposed quote? They added "Dumb" in the bolded quote where it's never appeared before.

Sloppy journalism. **** these clowns.

Jeff Rosen is mainly the one responsible, he refuses to admit they ****ed up.

Hill didn't enter a plea that maintained his innocence. He entered a guilty plea.

I understand that CP will continue to look for ways around this, because we want to feel better about cheering for him, but those are facts. He admitted that he abused her.

I'm pretty sure that's the exact quote from the tape. They've ****ed it up before, apparently.

I don’t recognize you, so I’ll guess it’s likely that you don’t know that I’m not a fan of any individual team. I live in close proximity to the Broncos franchise. There’s not much more to it than that. I never get emotionally attached to something that’s owned by someone else. That’s especially true of corporate sports teams that have hijacked the name of the city I chose for my home.

He admitted some sort of guilt in interviews with teams when he was interviewed. He admitted some sort of guilt the media post being drafted. He continued with his anger management courses that the team mandated before him. Until now anytime this incident had come up be it Hill or the team it was always addressed with him being the guilty party and working on being a reformed and better person.

That does not mean he did anything wrong in 2019. However, I am not sure why anyone would think there isn't smoke around 2014.

I see Eleazar the white knight of abuse is back once again.

You sound like a blast. Definitely don't drink some antifreeze....

IIRC, didn't he sign a statement that only admitted guilt to putting her in a headlock as he was trying to remove her from the apartment?

Being smart enough to do what a lawyer told you to do to avoid jail time and have a career while being public and then saying something else in private doesn't prove anything.

This argument will never die, why? Black people hell people in general cop to pleas of shit they didn't do all the time because they're broke and don't wanna go to jail......meanwhile there is a pattern of abusers there are 2 sides to this and both sides are using stuff that really happens to support the theory.

I know for a fact he never admitted to punching her in the stomach.

Sheeeeeet, I was basically done with 'em when they got rid of the Times. Cheap ass bastards the lot of 'em! The quality of that rag has been in decline for decades.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Fails to mention that Espinal ALSO lost custody, was investigated, admitted on tape that “he gets whoopeed,” admitted in text “I did it. I hurt our son.” Worst piece to-date for the <a href="https://twitter.com/KCStar?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@KCStar</a>. I’m actually stunned.</p>&mdash; Mind Rhino (@mind_rhino) <a href="https://twitter.com/mind_rhino/status/1149678229596319749?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 12, 2019</a></blockquote>
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Yea but the whole he belittles her by calling her "bro" is a complete and total made up crock of shit.

Done.

He initially plead not guilty.

Then he ran out of money.

You dummy.

As they continue to do what created this problem in the first place, use the information they want to use to shape the narrative to fit a news story they want to tell.

Guys, editorials are unsigned because they represent the institutional opinion of the newspaper, through the collective efforts of the editorial board: https://www.kansascity.com/opinion/a...127478714.html. One member of the board (NOT any reporter, let alone Brooke Pryor) wrote the piece but with the input of the other members. That also likely included the publisher. The board might consult reporters on facts or background, but reporters otherwise have no say in writing the editorials.

Need DJ or one of the other resident Legal Eagles to respond:

Are there other possible reasons for a prosecutor to offer a plea bargain OTHER than because they don't have a terribly strong case?

I mean, if his guilt is so obvious, why are they offering him anything?

Sincerely,

Legal Dummy

Agreed.

Every post you make on the topic makes you look worse. Just stop digging.

That's great, buddy.

Heads need to roll.

You know what he's doing.....Duncan was smart enough to admit he ****ed up apologize and tip the **** out...this one not so much.

This entire thing with the audio started to make him look more guilty regarding the more recent allegations. This is important because the full audio doesn’t make him look as bad with regards to that situation as they initially tried to make him look.

So now, they are going back to the 2014 incident as a last effort but that has already been gone over and resolved. It’s no longer relevant and certainly has nothing to do with any need to punish him. The majority of people, including the media, assumed the worst about that 2014 situation yet he still was able to move past it and be cheered for and supported as a player without contempt. Bringing it back up now is nothing but people pushing an agenda and grasping for something else since the recent allegations appear to have fallen through.

The paper isn't making much money. They want you to be outraged and click on their links.

I got a QUICK response from Berg.

A quick snippet of my email:
The response:

Taking a case to trial is expensive and time-consuming. Most every person who is truly guilty pleads out. The state doesn't have the resources to go through the motions of a full trial for everything, and when the guilty party is willing to make a deal to resolve the matter, it's unnecessary.

Lets not mention how many people who aren't guilty plead out for a good deal because of the sad fact that many innocent people go to jail everyday.

He could have decided not to contest the charges while maintaining his innocence. He didn't do that. He admitted guilt.

Hill is not going to be punished for the 2014 incident. It’s over and done with and won’t come into play despite the continued assault on Hill from the media. So we are back to just the recent stuff, which really isn’t much, hence the reason they are bringing up the 2014 stuff again. They are trying to justify their overall bad reporting.

It could also be very simply that in a he said vs she said scenario he didn't want to take the risk of a trial and it go against him when a pregnant woman is on the stand crying.

It could also be that the DA put a deal in place that allows things to work out in the long run by clearing Hill's record if there are no other issues because they didn't feel like what happened was so egregious.

If that is what you are going to hold to then I guess all those people that were wrongly sent to prison should shut the **** up huh?

You can sit there and say that fine, if you were in that spot you can't tell me you wouldn't have taken that deal.

Yeah, and he ran out of money, so he took a plea deal that actually got the charge expunged...so in reality, it's like it never actually happened.

So for anyone who doesn't understand what that means, it means that, according to the letter of the law, he never plead to shit.

Very valid point.

2014 is being brought up repeatedly because it's a deflection, the initial shit they reported has nothing left to stand on so they have to do what they can to still prove "hey we're still right because he's a bad person"

It was expunged.

According to the letter of the law, he did not.

He took a plea to get that shit expunged from his record.

I know, that's not a very "newsworthy" part of the story...