Let’s talk about the upside of this offense
 

With the Cheetah back in the fold all season, this offense may look even better on paper than last year...

I don’t know that the production is the same, but man for man, they appear more dangerous... sure Hunt is better than Williams, but I think the RB room is filled with depth that can fill out roles...

The WR room is as deep as it is stout. Speed and more speed. If Hardman can pick things up quick, look out...

If we can avoid catastrophic injuries, I see no reason why this isn’t a 12-16 win team.... yeah, I said it...

Now go fap away with these Tyreek highlights: https://youtu.be/uDwlF_hgFjI

Hell yeah!!!!!!! 19-0 50 PPG

If the defense is league average or better, we’ll go 15-1 or 16-0

If it’s in the lower 20s, we’ll probably win 12.

The offense is going to be legendary (again). Possibly better than last year. Mahomes has a year under his belt, we’ve added Hard Man, Watkins seems to be primed for a good year, we just need Kelce to come back healthy. Hopefully the preseason allows to shake off any rust.

Not to mention Reid expanding the playbook (with some help from Pat, I’m sure) and Bienemy not being stolen away. It’s a perfect storm, really.

I am interested to see what happens at the RB position. Wanna see Darwin Thompson in action badly, he seems like an obvious steal and a great fit in this offense. Hyde and D Will 2 should compete for some carries as well.

It’s faster
Just look at things from a speed perspective:

Hill=Hill
Kelce=Kelce
Watkins=Watkins
Hardman>Conley
Robinson=Robinson
Williams>Hunt

That’s the fastest receiver, a very fast TE, Watkins claims to be in better shape, Hardman is a burner, Robinson has some speed, and Damien Williams is the fastest RB we’ve had since Charles. Oh, and Mahomes is probably gonna be a bit faster (and stronger) this year a season well

!!!!!!

I think Kelce is key here. We can afford a WR injury, but not one at TE.

How do you defend 4 vert routes if all the WRs are sub 4.4?

Uncalled PI

Don’t forget John Lovett. He was the 2nd most athletic TE in this draft class behind Noah Fant.

4.56 40 and 6.94 3 cone

Dude is gonna be a big upgrade over Incompletetrious Harris

Later. We have all of camp for that.

Right now we're bathing in the salty tears of the stupids, SJW's and media hacks.

Better believe this episode galvanized the team....... This is the story line that starts the "Us vs The World" type stuff.........

Between the guards, yeah, probably. Not so sure about out in space.

The numbers don't back up a drop at the RB position.. just need to scheme a bit more.

remember when robinson came aboard and people were hoping that his 4.45 speed could add something that no one but hill had. now hes the slowest guy in the projected rotation..

Watch black football players run around in tights but deride social justice

Cognitive dissonance and cuckery seem to go hand in hand

and not even by a little...........

Hill = 4.29
Watkins = 4.34
Hardmon = 4.33

Hope / Pray for a delayed hand off / draw play.

Screw it what if we go 5 wide!?!?!

Hill
Watkins
Hardmon
Robinson
Kelce

WHAT DO YOU DO!?!?!

If Darwin Thompson turns into a Darren Sproles or Tarik Cohen type of player this offense could go down as the best ever. Thompsons burst and allusiveness is off the charts along with his pass catching ability out of the backfield. We all know you cant play zone vs. Mahomes and that cannon of an arm. The Colts figured that out the hard way. Play man and Thompson is singled on a linebacker with choice routes out of the backfield. Absolute field day ALL.DAY.LONG! Just too many weapons to defend.

Just keep Mahomes healthy. Pleeease.

What does that have to do with social justice?

Would you rather the players wear combat fatigues? And what is it with old people getting triggered by tights?

DC is that way—>

Good luck to the Patriots and their cover 1 blitzes. You shade McCourty over Hill like you did in the AFC game and other half of the field is getting burnt by Mecole.

Offense is going to be unstoppable. There's not enough talent on really any NFL defense to schematically contain what we have. Only thing stopping us is an off night from Mahomes and O-Line injuries.

Great test week 1. Jacksonville has the best set of corners in football.

Dafuq is citizenery?

I wouldn't say Williams > Hunt, as I think Hunt is better. But the drop off is absolutely minimal as Williams is faster than Hunt but Hunt is more powerful and harder to tackle. But Williams having a full year as the primary back, he's about to have an absolute career year.

Also, Darwin Thompson is about to break out the second half of the year// I'm ****ing ready for Mahomes to have 98 TDS and 6235 yards

This team is already tight. The offense are all very close and Honey Badger is leading the defense.

Teams are going to have to beat us for four quarters straight to win- if they let up in the fourth we can put a lot of points on the board in a hurry.

I want to beat the Faders, Donks, Chargers and Pats twice each this year including the playoffs.

A few things....
I hope Hardman will be used not just as a receiver but as a receiving option DAT was supposed to be. We need an underneath option who can also get tons of YAC.

Mahomes will be better. Ravens and Pats found a blueprint to scheme him as best they can. No doubt Reid has found a fix. And Brandon Daly is a wildly underrated move for our offense. He will make sure mahomes sees these fronts in practice.

Williams is fine. But mahomes has to be better at finding the check down when needed. Darwin will help us get the bowling ball yards we used to get with kareem.

I loved hearing mahomes say was he's working on his footwork. I actually think he's been too inaccurate on the deep stuff and I hate when he throws off his back foot when he doesn't need to. We were awesome on long plays. It's amazing to think we should have been even better.

He will primarily be used in DAT's old role. It's been noted (yesterday actually) that Robinson is taking over Conley's old role.

blitz

Robinson in Conleys role is intriguing. I don't know that Robinson can ever be a 1 or 2 receiver. His value seems to be being mahomes' #1 improv option and the two have terrific chemistry when mahomes starts moving around. Conley struggled with separation. His value seemed to be being open when mahomes went through all his reads. So that seems like a really really good fit for Robinson.

then dump to williams

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Let's hope Andy doesn't overdose with all this "Offensive Heroin".:D

Nope. Darwin will be the DAT you think Hardman will be. Darwin fits the role much better IMHO.

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But "teams have TAPE of Mahomes" now!!

They have Tape guys...tape... they can stop us now because now they won't be surprised how awesome he is. :)

"KEEP HIM IN THE POCKET!!!!"

He said from a speed perspective, you agreed. Lol.

The Kansas City Chiefs Offense will be awesome and I am looking forward to watching it.

BUT

Every NFL defense that plays KC is going to circle the date they play KC and their defensive coordinator will be looking ahead at what the Chiefs are doing. When an NFL Team plays against the best offense, they are going to be trying to come up with ways to try and at least slow us down. I think Andy Reid will plan for that and we will see quicker releases but our offense will have to be flexible with what teams throw at us.

I should rephrase... I think the Chiefs WANTED DAT to be a replacement for Albert wilson. We miss Wilson. Darwin and Damien are good checkdown and screen options. But Wilson was a guy you could use for jet sweeps and to run or sometimes sprint underneath the coverage. We saw what happened in New England when we can't throw underneath our vertical routes. Defenses are going to more and more stack deep to stop us. We need to punish them when they do. What intrigues me about Hardman isn't just his speed, it's his agility. That's a great weapon for that role.

How about Chiefs run a double decoy with Hardman and Hill. When the ball is snapped nobody will be looking at Mahomes. And Mahomes wont looking at anybody either because he throws a no look 60 yard bomb, dropped on a dime, to Sammy Watkins of whom catches the ball one handed and literally walks into the end zone!!!

yeah, then we only score 40 points

Sammy Watkins has said he is fully healthy and in the best shape of his career and he's had a full season in this offense with Mahomes.

Mecole Hardman provides another ultra speedy/gadget player type option.

And now Tyreek gets added back into the equation.

Mahomes may throw for 6,000 yards this season.

The Chiefs will be the first team to ever score 100 points in a game.

Write that down.

I hope not. Either the defense is sucking ass or Andy is running up the score. I’m ready for PM to be sitting out the fourth quarter.

What if it’s the Super Bowl and Andy Reid runs up the score on the Rams?

One things for sure, I’m gonna pillage this years Madden

Playing with this group will even be more fun than playing with the 99 Rams... sick speed everywhere you look, and a QB they created a first of its kind talent package for

People are gonna get hurt, both on the tv and in real life

We will see more panic in opposing defenses than this league has ever seen.
Defensive coordinators will be throwing their hands in the air by the end of the first quarter.
Just too much firepower

Yeah, it has been hilarious to listen to the majority of the national sports media's narrative that PM2 will take a step back. I think he matches last year if not surpasses his numbers assuming we have limited health issues along the way.

Here is what separates Mahomes from the other young QBs who struggle. Besides having a bazooka for an arm and instinct and maturity of a 35 y.o. vet he desires and works hard at being a thorough student of the game and just happens to have a coach that specializes in beating defenses who he knows how to prepare for even IF they have the tape and who has been in this position before and will make sure PM2 stays ahead of their game and what to look for.

If Hardman flashes and Watkins stays healthy - Mahomes could beat his numbers from last year.

But only if he needs to because our D is terrible again.

I think the games will slow down this year, but our defense is going to give our offense more possessions.

A lot of these games are going to be over by mid-third quarter.

I think after the end of the season we may look at that being the reason Mahomes numbers drop off.
If the game is in hand, and unlike last year the defense can make stops it would make sense.

While we still go deep, I see us torching underneath too..I think we see shorter passes for big chunks..I think PM will be even more efficient in his throws and decision making.

Most anticipated season in forever.

Zoom, Zoom

There's just too much speed to play man and you can't play zone against Andy/Mahomes.

Defenses are going to have to be conservative and keep their safeties high. The screen game could be a big factor this year.

I just want pringle in there i feel his speed will hurt other teams defense.

100% fact

lets the games begin!

Linebackers will be stuck in Quicksand with RPO action and this speed.

no matter how much film they watch. How well they plan a defense, They send Hardman and Hill on deep routes and by some miracle they are both covered by a CB and safety. Mahomes has no where to go deep.

How are they going to cover Kelsey one on one over the middle? Or the RB gets past the LB’s? There is going to be a lot of chunks of yards available to be taken advantage of by Mahomes.

This is going to be Watkins best year ever. Watch.

Our offense was awesome last year, not sure what more people want. If Watkins hadn't gotten hurt last year our numbers would have been obscene.

It's the defense that is the problem, along with Team health.

Johnny Manziel is going to be a HoF quarterback. Watch.

I ****ing hope not!!! That just means that the network will be switching to a more competitive game. That shit pisses me off.

The real fun comes playoff time.

Blow them out and get our starters off the field.

Unstoppable.....

Seriously how do you scheme against this?

With Hardman and DRob, you can now line up Tyreek wherever you want and use him however you want.

Andy has to have an everlasting boner...

Upside is unprecedented production.

Bah, I'm semi-local. KC games air to the end no matter the score.

Same is true for Bronco and Cowboys games though. Ugh.

I'm with you except the Hunt part. Hunt was a bad ass RB both running and catching the ball. Williams is not Hunt and not so sure he is faster or faster to the point that it matters.

IMO, Hunt is the best back in football.

Everyone produces in Andy's offense, and ultimately RB doens't matter THAT much... but you watch Hunt shed 2 guys, leap a dude, and then plow a guy 5 years into the endzone. He's ****ing awesome. Always at the top of yards AFTER contact.

Williams was a 3rd string pass catching back. He didn't become awesome. Andy's run scheme is awesome. He just panics and abandons it too often.

Hunt made more game changing plays, but Williams is fine given the cast we have. He'll be supplanted in the near future anyway.

Totally agree. Watching that Chargers game today at 10 minutes in qtr 4 Williams tkes a run and I swear, his burst was exactly like Tyreek Hill. I thought thats who had the ball. He levels that defender making the tackle.

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Meh. I'll make an exception for the Pats.

I agree. Last year he looked like a rookie sometimes trying to do too much. I think he’ll have that ironed out this year now that he has experience.

Here’s a good example of an easy one he missed last year that I don’t think he will this year:

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Kelce was open at the sticks:

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You went full Boss Chief ROFL

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We look better on paper, which is crazy to say.


But as always, it comes down to staying healthy.

It’s really a shame that Kareem is an idiot because this season will be a running back’s dream and he would have been unstoppable.

Defenses will have to routinely drop 7-8 into coverage and the box will be incredibly light on a consistent basis.

Damien should absolutely feast.

Agreed. But every back will feast especially Darwin who can be used in several other positions.

98 Vikings.

Better

cool.

All of our weapons on offense can beat man coverage and take it to the house.

And our offensive line is pretty good, too.

I keep seeing it posted that teams are going to have to play a safety deep so Reek won't burn them- and then another safety to cover Kelce?

Seems like a mismatch and that leaves zero run support.

So does that leave a linebacker on Williams? Huge mismatch.

Or you use a CB or LB to try and cover Kelce and leave your safety in for run support and swing passes? Mismatch on Kelce.

Or am I overthinking this? :hmmm:

I never went that far...but we topped 50 last year...and likely will again this year.

I’m also sticking by my comment of Mahomes have got the potential to have games with more than 600 yards.