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pugsnotdrugs19 07-24-2019 08:40 AM

DT Mike Daniels released by Green Bay
 
Per Schefty.... https://twitter.com/adamschefter/sta...430565378?s=21

Interesting late cut. Really good run defender.

I don’t think he’s a fit here considering you already have a deep DL. Cleveland is the team to watch.

Titty Meat 07-24-2019 08:46 AM

Clevelands front would be spooky with him

O.city 07-24-2019 08:46 AM

Probably goes to Cleveland or NE

If someone would go ahead and cut his caliber of a CB that'd be nice.

Mecca 07-24-2019 08:49 AM

That's odd he got a new deal not that long ago, Green Bay completely changing that team.

Only reason I could see him fitting here is that after this season only Nnadi and Saunders are under contract for DT's.

staylor26 07-24-2019 08:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 14361661)
That's odd he got a new deal not that long ago, Green Bay completely changing that team.

He was entering the last year of that deal.

O.city 07-24-2019 08:51 AM

He's 30 coming off an injury.

I'm just not sure i'd go there for much when we've got other DT's to pay.

pugsnotdrugs19 07-24-2019 08:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 14361649)
Probably goes to Cleveland or NE

If someone would go ahead and cut his caliber of a CB that'd be nice.

You can bet that if/when a CB or TE hits the market, we’re in on it.

Mecca 07-24-2019 08:53 AM

He's saying he wants to go to a bowl contender...

Chiefs=Champions 07-24-2019 09:05 AM

Good pass rusher. Id bring him in if he comes cheap.

ChiTown 07-24-2019 09:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 14361668)
You can bet that if/when a CB or TE hits the market, we’re in on it.

Blake Bell currently projected as TK's backup, per ESPN. That's pretty scary, especially given TK turns 30 this year.

carcosa 07-24-2019 09:36 AM

Bring him in to push Dieter for WR5

Jewish Rabbi 07-24-2019 10:47 AM

Have we signed this piece of shit yet???

Flying High D 07-24-2019 11:59 AM

Does he pass the smell test?

rabblerouser 07-24-2019 12:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flying High D (Post 14362140)
Does he pass the smell test?

Don't forget "look/tread/ropes"

Pitt Gorilla 07-24-2019 12:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiTown (Post 14361723)
Blake Bell currently projected as TK's backup, per ESPN. That's pretty scary, especially given TK turns 30 this year.

I've been assured that TE2 doesn't actually matter and Kelce will never be injured.

rabblerouser 07-24-2019 12:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla (Post 14362266)
I've been assured that TE2 doesn't actually matter and Kelce will never be injured.

That's fantastic news.

Titty Meat 07-24-2019 01:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla (Post 14362266)
I've been assured that TE2 doesn't actually matter and Kelce will never be injured.

Alot of teams dont win the super bowl because they dont have a good #2 TE we must fill this need! LMAO

Pitt Gorilla 07-24-2019 01:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Titty Meat (Post 14362399)
Alot of teams dont win the super bowl because they dont have a good #2 TE we must fill this need! LMAO

There's little doubt that we needed to downgrade the position.

Skyy God 07-24-2019 02:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla (Post 14362404)
There's little doubt that we needed to downgrade the position.

I think Yelder/Lovett produce 80% as much as Harris would for 1/3 the cost.

Not sure that’s worth $2M in cap savings, but the die has been cast.

Pitt Gorilla 07-24-2019 03:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cave Johnson (Post 14362542)
I think Yelder/Lovett produce 80% as much as Harris would for 1/3 the cost.

Not sure that’s worth $2M in cap savings, but the die has been cast.

If the staff believes they have something in Lovett, then the move makes a lot of sense. If he can block, he could be legit.

CoMoChief 07-24-2019 04:20 PM

I'll pass.

If we're gonna pay a DT...pay Jones first.

RunKC 07-24-2019 04:23 PM

Good player. He’s the type of signing I’d make after we pay Pat

BossChief 07-24-2019 04:43 PM

It’s a shame our DL is so deep. Daniels is a good player that won’t be expensive, but will play hard for a contender.

He’s gonna be a good pickup for NE or CLE

staylor26 07-24-2019 04:45 PM

Love how everybody just assumes he’s going to Cleveland or New England.

Didn’t we do the same exact thing with Gerald McCoy?

Titty Meat 07-24-2019 05:31 PM

From @NFLTotalAccess: Sounds like there’s already solid interest in former #Packers DL Mike Daniels, despite Green Bay being unable to complete a trade with teams that included the #Patriots, #Chiefs and #Browns. https://t.co/fG0f1vE8di

Flying High D 07-24-2019 05:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Titty Meat (Post 14362881)
From @NFLTotalAccess: Sounds like there’s already solid interest in former #Packers DL Mike Daniels, despite Green Bay being unable to complete a trade with teams that included the #Patriots, #Chiefs and #Browns. https://t.co/fG0f1vE8di

That’s great news, hopefully everything will be okay.

BossChief 07-24-2019 05:37 PM

We tried to trade for him?

I mean, for the right price, signing him would be a smart move. We really only have 6 locks at DL.

Okafor
Jones
Ogbah
Clark
Nnadi
Saunders

After that, it’s a bunch of guys fighting for 2 spots...

Williams
KPass
Walker
Hamilton
Ward

If the price is right, Daniels would be a really nice addition to the rotation.

A DT rotation of Jones, Nnadi, Daniels and Saunders would be really awesome.

Jerm 07-24-2019 05:40 PM

Watch Veach sign him and try and trade Jones for Ramsey....

Not saying I would but I think Veach would...

RunKC 07-24-2019 05:44 PM

This guy is still good

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Mike Daniels only had 209 pass rush snaps in 2018, but ranked 23rd in pressure rate among 173 defenders with at least 200 pass rushes, per <a href="https://twitter.com/SportsInfo_SIS?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@SportsInfo_SIS</a></p>&mdash; Dan Pizzuta (@DanPizzuta) <a href="https://twitter.com/DanPizzuta/status/1154038329492439042?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 24, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Daniels only played 10 games last year. He led the team in hurries (24).</p>&mdash; Derrik Klassen (@QBKlass) <a href="https://twitter.com/QBKlass/status/1154035564019982336?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 24, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Finished up reviewing Mike Daniels season not too long ago. He was an absolute beast against the run from both the 1 &amp; 3-technique. Very quick processor, plays w/outstanding leverage, and has elite play strength: <a href="https://t.co/0UTJJT2bUE">pic.twitter.com/0UTJJT2bUE</a></p>&mdash; Brandon Thorn (@BrandonThornNFL) <a href="https://twitter.com/BrandonThornNFL/status/1020358907653312513?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 20, 2018</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Coogs 07-24-2019 05:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 14362897)
We tried to trade for him?

I mean, for the right price, signing him would be a smart move. We really only have 6 locks at DL.

Okafor
Jones
Ogbah
Clark
Nnadi
Saunders

After that, it’s a bunch of guys fighting for 2 spots...

Williams
KPass
Walker
Hamilton
Ward

If the price is right, Daniels would be a really nice addition to the rotation.

A DT rotation of Jones, Nnadi, Daniels and Saunders would be really awesome.

I'm guessing Speaks is a lock for this year too. I am sure I heard Grunhard say the other day that we might keep 10 D-linemen.

T-post Tom 07-24-2019 05:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla (Post 14362266)
I've been assured that TE2 doesn't actually matter and Kelce will never be injured.

Hey crazy rabbit, please don't ever change your avy pic. Love that little blond Fraulein.


https://imageservice.nordjyske.dk/s3...rop&scale=both

RunKC 07-24-2019 05:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Titty Meat (Post 14362881)
From @NFLTotalAccess: Sounds like there’s already solid interest in former #Packers DL Mike Daniels, despite Green Bay being unable to complete a trade with teams that included the #Patriots, #Chiefs and #Browns. https://t.co/fG0f1vE8di

It seems more and more likely that we are going to trade Chris Jones. Wow

BossChief 07-24-2019 05:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coogs (Post 14362914)
I'm guessing Speaks is a lock for this year too. I am sure I heard Grunhard say the other day that we might keep 10 D-linemen.

How did I forget Speaks? I felt I was missing someone when I posted that and double checked the Chiefs roster sorted by position and Speaks isn’t there.

Still listed as a LBer.

BossChief 07-24-2019 05:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 14362923)
It seems more and more likely that we are going to trade Chris Jones. Wow

I wouldn’t go that far.

This team wants every chance to win a Super Bowl it can get.

It’s a long season and a vet like Daniels (that’s fundamentally sound and aggressive) can help a lot to keep the rotation sound. This DL is very talented, but also extremely young and needing development. Adding a guy like Daniels could help that while providing help to Nnadi and Saunders that both profile similarly to Daniels.

O.city 07-24-2019 06:01 PM

Let nnadi play that role

saphojunkie 07-24-2019 06:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 14362923)
It seems more and more likely that we are going to trade Chris Jones. Wow

I hope so.

O.city 07-24-2019 06:03 PM

Why would you wanna trade Jones?

RealSNR 07-24-2019 06:08 PM

I'm just so soft about Speaks moving to the interior. We drafted a guy who played 4-3 end in college but started as a DT, we moved him to outside LB, and now he's going to go BACK to DT?

Is he some kind of Wallace Gilberry piece of shit or something?

And who the **** knows (or cares) about KPass. Trade him to the Browns. Tell Dorsey he accidentally left some of his shit behind when he left.

O.city 07-24-2019 06:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 14362954)
I'm just so soft about Speaks moving to the interior. We drafted a guy who played 4-3 end in college but started as a DT, we moved him to outside LB, and now he's going to go BACK to DT?

Is he some kind of Wallace Gilberry piece of shit or something?

And who the **** knows (or cares) about KPass. Trade him to the Browns. Tell Dorsey he accidentally left some of his shit behind when he left.

Yeah if you wanna clean out Williams kpass and such, this dude would be better

staylor26 07-24-2019 06:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by saphojunkie (Post 14362942)
I hope so.

Dumb. Your takes on Jones are just awful.

In58men 07-24-2019 06:15 PM

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staylor26 07-24-2019 06:17 PM

Yea they want him so bad that they couldn’t get a trade done when there was one to be made and don’t even have a meeting set up?

It’s not happening.

RunKC 07-24-2019 06:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 14362937)
I wouldn’t go that far.

This team wants every chance to win a Super Bowl it can get.

It’s a long season and a vet like Daniels (that’s fundamentally sound and aggressive) can help a lot to keep the rotation sound. This DL is very talented, but also extremely young and needing development. Adding a guy like Daniels could help that while providing help to Nnadi and Saunders that both profile similarly to Daniels.

I’m hoping this is just them going all in.

Clark replaces Ford’s pass rush ability. Jones is still here. My only worry was who would replace Houston’s, who was still a double-digit caliber rusher who was really good in our playoff win.

Clark, Daniels, Jones and Okafor starting with Ogbah, Speaks, Saunders and Nnandi as depth would be really ****ing good

SAUTO 07-24-2019 06:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 14362970)
Yea they want him so bad that they couldn’t get a trade done when there was one to be made and don’t even have a meeting set up?

It’s not happening.

I agree. They didn't get a trade done for a guy that was then cut...

staylor26 07-24-2019 06:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SAUTO (Post 14362974)
I agree. They didn't get a trade done for a guy that was then cut...

I mean they could just think they can get a better deal than what he already had, but if they were that interested they’d be setting up a meeting.

Mecca 07-24-2019 06:23 PM

Daniels didn't get traded for because he made alot of money, why do that if you can sign him for a quarter of that?

staylor26 07-24-2019 06:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 14362981)
Daniels didn't get traded for because he made alot of money, [B{why do that if you can sign him for a quarter of that?[/B]

You’re not getting him that cheap.

Mecca 07-24-2019 06:28 PM

If Daniels get anything over 3-4 mill I'll be stunned, he won't touch the 8.1 he was due.

RunKC 07-24-2019 06:30 PM

Allen Bailey just got $5.5 million AAV and Daniels is better.

Daniels should get at least $6 million AAV

staylor26 07-24-2019 06:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 14362994)
Allen Bailey just got $5.5 million AAV and Daniels is better.

Daniels should get at least $6 million AAV

This. Daniels is significantly better than Bailey.

In58men 07-24-2019 06:38 PM

Then why not pay Bailey?

Is it because of scheme?

Chiefshrink 07-24-2019 06:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 14362994)
Allen Bailey just got $5.5 million AAV and Daniels is better.

MUCH BETTER!!!

RunKC 07-24-2019 06:43 PM

Allen Bailey was terrible in run defense last year. He got more sacks bc he was rushing a hell of a lot more bc of Mahomes and the offense forcing shootouts

O.city 07-24-2019 06:44 PM

Daniels is a badass

Or atleast he was before the injury

rabblerouser 07-24-2019 06:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by In58men (Post 14363004)
Then why not pay Bailey?

Is it because of scheme?

Because NE pulled and trapped him to death in the AFCCG.

Titty Meat 07-24-2019 07:51 PM

I absolutely sign Daniels that's a very good player at a position you need a rotation of guys to play.

Titty Meat 07-24-2019 07:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 14362989)
If Daniels get anything over 3-4 mill I'll be stunned, he won't touch the 8.1 he was due.

If you can stuff Sony Michel and force Tom Brady to beat you throwing it 50 times hes worth every penny.

Titty Meat 07-24-2019 07:57 PM

https://youtu.be/U3X93_TsTFA
https://youtu.be/7n7nS8V7L0o

Give me that personality with play. Plus Frank Clark? We havent had piss and vinegar on the line like that in along time.

Skyy God 07-25-2019 09:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Titty Meat (Post 14363128)
https://youtu.be/U3X93_TsTFA
https://youtu.be/7n7nS8V7L0o

Give me that personality with play. Plus Frank Clark? We havent had piss and vinegar on the line like that in along time.

I'm sold.

Waves of fresh DL for days.

carcosa 07-25-2019 09:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Titty Meat (Post 14363113)
I absolutely sign Daniels that's a very good player at a position you need a rotation of guys to play.

Thanks

O.city 07-25-2019 09:41 AM

Any clue as to what it would cost to get him?

Redbled 07-25-2019 09:44 AM

First visit Cleveland.

Man I hate them.

Mecca 07-25-2019 09:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 14363682)
Any clue as to what it would cost to get him?

Going to depend on years and what the other offers are..

If he really has 7 teams showing interest if you only want to do 1 year you're probably looking at 5-6 million.

You might be able to mess with some numbers more if you go more years but he's been injury prone as of late so that's risky.

O.city 07-25-2019 09:49 AM

I'm not a fan of the 1 year deals so i'd always go for atleast 2.

2 years 14 mil with like, 8 gtd too much?

Chief Northman 07-25-2019 09:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Redbled (Post 14363686)
First visit Cleveland.

Man I hate them.

****ers.

They have mountains of money.

Redbled 07-25-2019 09:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 14363697)
I'm not a fan of the 1 year deals so i'd always go for atleast 2.

2 years 14 mil with like, 8 gtd too much?


I’d be tempted. You could play hardball with Jones. I can’t ever see paying him anything close to 20 mill per year. I see his sack numbers going way down and more of a rotation mind set.

Mecca 07-25-2019 09:56 AM

It's also possible the Chiefs are showing interest as a leverage move with Jones, but in reality this guy as part of the rotation does make the line better.

RunKC 07-25-2019 09:58 AM

Dorsey drafted the guy. Of course he’s going to see him first

Mecca 07-25-2019 10:01 AM

Yea that John Dorsey guy, he kinda doesn't suck at his job.

old_geezer 07-25-2019 10:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chief Northman (Post 14363704)
****ers.

They have mountains of money.

IMO that's why he's visiting them first. He knows he'll probably get the highest bid from Cleveland then he can use it for leverage in talks with any other teams. If KC is really interested in him and the money is similar I think he'd choose KC.

Mecca 07-25-2019 10:04 AM

Some of this is going to depend on how much he weighs winning and money, Cleveland can pay the most but they aren't nearly as close to being a bowl team as we are.

Even if you buy into their hype they're probably a 1 and done playoff team.

Titty Meat 07-25-2019 10:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 14363724)
Some of this is going to depend on how much he weighs winning and money, Cleveland can pay the most but they aren't nearly as close to being a bowl team as we are.

Even if you buy into their hype they're probably a 1 and done playoff team.

They have a better roster than we do.

O.city 07-25-2019 10:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Titty Meat (Post 14363745)
They have a better roster than we do.

Nah

Mecca 07-25-2019 10:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Titty Meat (Post 14363745)
They have a better roster than we do.

That is debatable but they also have a 1st time head coach and a roster full of dudes that have never played in the playoffs.

They are talented but I expect some growing pains.

Simply Red 07-25-2019 10:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by T-post Tom (Post 14362920)
Hey crazy rabbit, please don't ever change your avy pic. Love that little blond Fraulein.


https://imageservice.nordjyske.dk/s3...rop&scale=both

See, I like this side-note sweetness you get in Tom - he's a true sweetie!

Iowanian 07-25-2019 10:22 AM

It's nice to see so many fans of Hawkeyes in here.

Simply Red 07-25-2019 10:27 AM

Hello Iowanian, I hope your summer is going well. Good to see you.

O.city 07-25-2019 10:27 AM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Mike Daniels is indeed in Cleveland; per source the current plan is to head to visit another team tonight.</p>&mdash; ProFootballTalk (@ProFootballTalk) <a href="https://twitter.com/ProFootballTalk/status/1154427396214468608?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 25, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

BossChief 07-25-2019 10:29 AM

Veach and Dorsey gonna run the price up on each other?

I’m sure neither of them wants Daniels to go to the other team.

Mecca 07-25-2019 10:30 AM

If you buy into this guy...

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">It is extremely likely that the Chiefs are linked to Daniels in an attempt to bring Jones’ price tag down. Keep that in mind</p>&mdash; The Gunslingiest (@RedMamba707) <a href="https://twitter.com/RedMamba707/status/1154211695990124545?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 25, 2019</a></blockquote>
<script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I’m not sure but I’m guessing this is all optics for Jones. This happens a lot and Veach likes to use this tact. ie Darqueze Dennard was all about Breeland</p>&mdash; The Gunslingiest (@RedMamba707) <a href="https://twitter.com/RedMamba707/status/1154217755232690176?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 25, 2019</a></blockquote>
<script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>


The I'm not sure part is to being asked if they actually want Daniels or not.


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