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Mecca 07-24-2019 10:02 AM

NFL sends out work stoppage paper to players
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">NFLPA has sent out a Work Stoppage Worksheet, asking NFL players to set aside half of each paycheck with a work stoppage “on the horizon.” Also suggests not starting new biz ventures &amp; cutting all non-mortgage debt by end of 2020 season. <a href="https://t.co/Xiy2gv6ntl">pic.twitter.com/Xiy2gv6ntl</a></p>&mdash; Darren Heitner (@DarrenHeitner) <a href="https://twitter.com/DarrenHeitner/status/1154006112326340608?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 24, 2019</a></blockquote>
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Redbled 07-24-2019 10:03 AM

Gulp.

Bet AP doesn’t listen.

Skyy God 07-24-2019 10:03 AM

Adrian Peterson should take heed and cut his camel budget.

Kman34 07-24-2019 10:05 AM

Bargaining ploy... I hope...

displacedinMN 07-24-2019 10:14 AM

Make 5-6 million a year. go on parents health care if you under 26. (if your parents work)

O.city 07-24-2019 10:15 AM

Mecca is so sure there will be a stoppage. LOL.

Kman34 07-24-2019 10:17 AM

Mahomes could pitch for the Royals???... that would be cool..

alpha_omega 07-24-2019 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by displacedinMN (Post 14361827)
Make 5-6 million a year. go on parents health care if you under 26. (if your parents work)

That was the first thing that jumped out at me as well.

TribalElder 07-24-2019 10:20 AM

figures, we finally get a baller ass qb like mahomes and now the league is gonna hold out and get greedy

Mecca 07-24-2019 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 14361830)
Mecca is so sure there will be a stoppage. LOL.

Well alright, do you think the players are going to conceded playing 18 games in return for the owners upping their percentage from 47 to 48 or 49 and then somehow believe that bigger rosters which equals more jobs is enough from the owners to give them some of their other demands?

If you don't believe that there is going to be an issue, because today as expected the owner don't want to give them more money and of course they don't want more games.

loochy 07-24-2019 10:24 AM

It's just a scare tactic. The union here does that too close to new contract time.

A few years back they went on strike and the company waited them out. They held out for about 6 weeks before they caved and accepted a worse contract than they were initially offered. It almost broke the union too, as lots of guys scabbed and came back to work after week 4.

O.city 07-24-2019 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 14361860)
Well alright, do you think the players are going to conceded playing 18 games in return for the owners upping their percentage from 47 to 48 or 49 and then somehow believe that bigger rosters which equals more jobs is enough from the owners to give them some of their other demands?

If you don't believe that there is going to be an issue, because today as expected the owner don't want to give them more money and of course they don't want more games.

Do you think players are going to miss game checks?

Mecca 07-24-2019 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 14361876)
Do you think players are going to miss game checks?

I dunno, I guess it depends how big of an issue they consider these things. They got bent over on the last deal and they all know it.

If they are willing to give on 18 games they'll be able to get several things they want.

Hammock Parties 07-24-2019 10:26 AM

this is a conspiracy to stop mahomes!!!!111one

O.city 07-24-2019 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 14361885)
I dunno, I guess it depends how big of an issue they consider these things. They got bent over on the last deal and they all know it.

If they are willing to give on 18 games they'll be able to get several things they want.

It's all noise.

There's not gonna be any kind of work stoppage, they'll cave on it and be playing.

displacedinMN 07-24-2019 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 14361876)
Do you think players are going to miss game checks?

Baby mommas will.

loochy 07-24-2019 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 14361892)
It's all noise.

There's not gonna be any kind of work stoppage, they'll cave on it and be playing.

this

Mecca 07-24-2019 10:30 AM

So you think they are just going to willfully bend over for 18 games yet not get anything else they want?

O.city 07-24-2019 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 14361900)
So you think they are just going to willfully bend over for 18 games yet not get anything else they want?

They'll get stuff they want.

They got stuff they wanted last time, they just didn't realize the things they wanted were just "stuff" and not money.

Mecca 07-24-2019 10:35 AM

Personally I think they'll get more revenue but I dunno how much, they should be shooting for 49/50.

But some of those other issues I doubt enough players care for it to matter, the franchise tag affects such a small amount of people, the rookie deals, I doubt any of that is changed.

But they are going to have to be willing to give in on the 18 games to get anything.

oldman 07-24-2019 10:50 AM

There's way too much money at stake for either side to fully dig in. I expect an 18 game season to be a major point for the owners and some of the other stuff discussed in an earlier thread for the players.

BTW, when do the TV contracts come up?

Mecca 07-24-2019 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by oldman (Post 14361948)
There's way too much money at stake for either side to fully dig in. I expect an 18 game season to be a major point for the owners and some of the other stuff discussed in an earlier thread for the players.

BTW, when do the TV contracts come up?

Not till after this which is why the owners are under pressure..those networks paying billions are going to be ****ing pissed if they have no games to show.

carcosa 07-24-2019 11:05 AM

Big difference between NFL and NFLPA

carcosa 07-24-2019 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Kman34 (Post 14361836)
Mahomes could pitch for the Royals???... that would be cool..

Honestly yes

Although... Do the Tigers still own his rights???

DJ's left nut 07-24-2019 11:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 14361885)
I dunno, I guess it depends how big of an issue they consider these things. They got bent over on the last deal and they all know it.

If they are willing to give on 18 games they'll be able to get several things they want.

They foolishly focused on the wrong shit in the last deal.

It's incredible how much bargaining capital they burned to not have to do as many contact practices and get rid of 2 a days. I mean ****ing hell, that was just letting lazy run the show.

Pitt Gorilla 07-24-2019 11:28 AM

Title should be NFLPA.

Buehler445 07-24-2019 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 14362015)
They foolishly focused on the wrong shit in the last deal.

It's incredible how much bargaining capital they burned to not have to do as many contact practices and get rid of 2 a days. I mean ****ing hell, that was just letting lazy run the show.

It’s incomprehensible. And they all voted to approve it right? I don’t even.....

The real problem I see is that the entire galaxy knows that DeMaurice Smith got woodshedded the last time and, given that he sounds like a colossal **** every time he’s on anywhere I’m afraid that he thinks he’s going to “get them back”. Even though he has virtually no leverage.

007 07-24-2019 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 14362015)
They foolishly focused on the wrong shit in the last deal.



It's incredible how much bargaining capital they burned to not have to do as many contact practices and get rid of 2 a days. I mean ****ing hell, that was just letting lazy run the show.

Seems like injuries have gone up since they dropped two a days.

DelFan 07-24-2019 10:58 PM

There are enough players getting hurt and being lost for a season with only 16 games. I love watching football but I'd accept going back to 14 to help the players stay healthy. I know that will never happen. If they go to 18 games, then make it mandatory that each player has a personal bye twice each year. That will never happen either but I am convinced the players are physically challenged enough as it is.

MMXcalibur 07-25-2019 12:33 AM

Figures, we get a franchise QB and NOW the league is in danger of missing a season or twelve.

Bugeater 07-25-2019 06:19 AM

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Originally Posted by 007 (Post 14362763)
Seems like injuries have gone up since they dropped two a days.

And the quality of play has gone down as well.

displacedinMN 07-25-2019 07:03 AM

^Agreed on both

ChiefsFanatic 07-25-2019 11:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 14361860)
Well alright, do you think the players are going to conceded playing 18 games in return for the owners upping their percentage from 47 to 48 or 49 and then somehow believe that bigger rosters which equals more jobs is enough from the owners to give them some of their other demands?



If you don't believe that there is going to be an issue, because today as expected the owner don't want to give them more money and of course they don't want more games.

I think a work stoppage is inevitable. Not only do players believe they deserve more points, but I believe the way the owners colluded against Kaepernick has damaged the relationship between owners and players more than anyone realizes.

Even if players were against the protests, his exclusion from an NFL roster reflects the controversial "Plantation" mentality of the owners. I know these are grown men making money for playing a game, but the rich, white team owners are making money by owning grown men who play a game for a living, and were more than happy to punish Kaepernick for being "uppity" and not falling in line with their own world views.

The players put their quality of life on the line every game, and have witnessed how little the league and its owners actually cares about them post football, which is not at all, really. Players get a pension after 4 years in the league, but only because they are in a Union, and not because the league or owners care about them when they can no longer perform.

I think that players watched Nathan Peterman, among other trash QBs, get paid for being very bad at football, while a player with the skills of Kaepernick was blackballed, and watched their rich, white, team owners worry more about sending a message to other players than winning, and it opened up their eyes to the fact that they should stop caring about winning until they have financial security, financial freedom, and a reward that matches their level of risk.

The only way to secure those things is to create leverage via a work stoppage. The MLBPA is the most powerful union in the United States, securing guaranteed contracts, and every other benefit they have, through work stoppages. There have been 5 player strikes, and 3 player driven lockouts in MLB, and once the players even sacrificed a World Series to get what they needed. I think NFL players are finally ready to stand strong and do the same to get what they deserve.

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