Chiefs resign Jeff Allen
 

Chiefs are re-sign Jeff Allen probably a one year deal wonder who getting on IR or cut.

Team News: The Kansas City Chiefs are finalizing a deal to re-sign OG Jeff Allen.

Allen, 29, signed with the Chiefs on October 16th and spent the remainder of the 2018 season in Kansas City. He appeared in 10…

Did they resign him or re-sign him?

Kemps likely headed to IR.

Or they’re releasing Hyde.

Re-sign sorry was on my phone.

good depth

either someone got nicked or they determined mckenzie isn't good enough to be a top backup yet

I think what happened is Murray and Hunter haven't shown them shit and they may not be comfortable going into a season with Allegretti and McKenzie as your guard backups where literally Cam Erving is the only backup OL they feel comfortable with.

Where does this shit keep coming from?

I think both Clay and Mecca are on track. Or maybe we keep 10 OL. I can't remember if Allen stepped in at T when he was here, but Erving is not someone I want to rely on.

Chiefs resign Jeff Allen
 

Nothing to see here. Move along.

Probably

Super Bowl or bust season. Don’t want to rely on guys with little experience if someone gets hurt.

Except at RB right?

Well in reality, Darrell Williams should be ready to go and RB isn't a hard position for a young player.

My opinion is simple, if you don't like Darrell Williams enough that you feel you have to keep Carlos Hyde, then cut Darrell Williams.

While I agree with this in principle... isn't Hyde the RB equivalent of Allen? A vet who has been in the league and has a track - albeit a meh - record?

Not to make this a hyde thread.

To a degree other than at 1 point Hyde looks pretty good with the niners but for the last 3 years he's shown a lot of decline. But for essentially a backup role if you feel you can't rely on Darrell Williams to take a couple of carries and not guy a QB killed in pass pro then he isn't exactly worthy of a spot either for a position that is easily replaceable.

He did, though I can't remember which game (maybe the Seahawks?). Chiefs are probably looking at the shitshow they have at backup tackle right now and figure Allen is the best option available currently.

What sucks is that even average OL are in demand yet Allen was just sitting around not on any roster.

We’re on the same page. I just want a different vet RB than Hyde

I'm not the biggest fan of John Dorsey, but I'll give him credit for being able to add decent talent through the waiver wire. I can't say I'm a big fan of having to re-sign castoffs like Parker and Zombo last year and now Allen. Perhaps more due diligence should have been done a while ago to build the roster depth.

Dorsey signed all those guys originally.

I believe Veach did address depth on the OL, they just haven't blossomed the way we hoped. I think we're OK at G and C, it's the backup T I'm worried about.

Maybe Pittsburgh zone blitzing the whole damn game was good for us after all. We got a wakeup call.

I suppose I had too high of expectations for Allegretti. Turns out the 7th rounder is a 7th rounder

He’s moving to corner

More like Alle-not-gonna-be-here-anymore.

Thank Christ. Can't stand to watch him bungle another downed punt opportunity.

No reason to be pumped about Hyde really, I get that, but what veteran out there is better? If we cut him today he would be on a team by the end of the week.

Darrel Williams has done nothing that I can see to keep him over Hyde and since Hyde's contract is guaranteed it doesn't even save money to cut him so...........

I doubt it.

That'd be what, 3 teams in 2 years he's been on? I dunno that there's much left if he gets cut.

Do you really think having veteran depth at RB is remotely the same or as important as having veteran depth at O-line?

Print’em

Werther's ain't running the show anymore.

Do you think they roll with Damien Williams as the only player with any real NFL experience at RB? He gets hurt like he already has, and we have a rookie and a second year UDFA to lean on?

Im not syaing Hyde's roster spot is a certain lock but they gave him $1.5MM guaranteed for a reason.

It's running back. Wtf does veteran experience have to do with anything? It's the simplest easiest position in football while O-line is the most complex after QB. There's a reason it makes more sense to have veteran depth at O-line than RB. Especially in the case of Jeff Allen where he's been in this system before so his familiarity would come in handy. What can Hyde's veteran experience add?

Experience at RB is really overrated basically by year 2 Darrell Williams should be able to pick up a blitz, if he can't then he shouldn't be on a team.

They rolled with Williams in the playoffs last year, IIRC, so i'm guessing they'd be fine with him now?

Seems like a good likely cheap signing if some of the young guys just aren't there. Knows the system and all

Yeah I think everyone can agree that OL depth is very thin. But, we are just going to have to get use to that. When you have an young MVP QB you're going to be lucky to have good front line starters. We can forget depth. The math is simple.

Mahomes > Depth

Yesh, their starting defense made mincemeat out of our 2nd and 3rd stringers...

CJ Spiller anyone? Anyone?

His contract wasn't guaranteed and it wasn't a potential SB year.

If Hyde gets cut he gets cut but it would have been a stupid waste of $1.5MM in cap space.

Pfft, Darwin Thompson says "here, hold my beer..."

They resigned themselves to re-signing him

I assume you mean Darrel as the back up, they didn't have a choice last year, Hunt was let during the season.

Hey if the biggest roster question right now is whether Hyde or Darrel Williams will be the 3rd RB or short yardage guy or whatever, I'll take it.

Whatever they decide to go with I trust Reid and company. If anything they have been able to maximize the RB position.

Yeah - what was that about? Watt and Dupree out there blitzing Henne at the end of the first half of the second preseason game? I laughed my ass off when Henne scored on them.

While true it is not going to really matter, it's not like it's a hit for several years.

They're still butthurt over getting reamed by us at home last year?

:shrug:

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Can confirm offensive lineman Jeff Allen is returning to the Chiefs</p>&mdash; Brooke Pryor (@bepryor) <a href="https://twitter.com/bepryor/status/1163488655060676609?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 19, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Oh I agree. I hated the signing from the beginning. Would have rathered rolled that 1.5 over to next year.

So long Cam Irving

But does something feel "off" about it??

This. Hopefully. So tired of watching him get roasted by backups. I fully supported Veach making the move to get him. Bring on more former first round picks who haven't delivered. It's a good bet.

But this guy just doesn't have it, and he never will.

Cam Erving is not getting cut, he's the ****ing backup OT, are you guys dumb?

Kareem started as as rookie. That doesn't happen much on the OL.

Kemp tore his ACL and MCL

Goodbye kalil

Well everyone told me I was dumb for thinking that Hyde was gonna get cut now everyone is saying what I thought

Hyde isnt getting cut tho

If Erving were to get cut who is the other OT on the team?

Allen could be the backup T and kick Erving back inside?

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Carlos Hyde has to go..</p>&mdash; Dante&#39; Jones (@Dantej21) <a href="https://twitter.com/Dantej21/status/1163187189456494593?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 18, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

At least at RB there are options, at backup OL bringing Allen back basically means they don't trust their young backups.

100% due to injury.

I think this is more about the backup guard and left tackle positions than it is about the backup center position.

In watching some practice and the two preseason games, it is clear Nick Allegretti has a long way to go before he is NFL ready. Kahlil McKenzie is doing better in his growth to be an offensive lineman but he is also a work in progress. Ryan Hunter also shows promise but maybe not yet ready.

Maybe more alarming is the backup LT Cam Erving. Last year Cam had 7 holding penalties, 6 false starts, and 2 unnecessary roughness while playing guard. If you get 6 false starts while beside the center, what will it look like when putting him outside with speed rushers? Preseason games continue to show him as a weakness that needs to be addressed. Cam Erving as a backup LT, G, or C will be the weak link.

Not saying the Jeff Allen is the ideal LT, but at 6-4 he also has long arms and at Illinois he played at the tackle position and he has played it some in the NFL.

He was the #2 as a rookie. If Williams went down, Thompson could get the start, just like Hunt.

Anything has to be better than Cam Erving. People bitching about Colquitt's contract or Sorenson's contract need to look into Cam Erving's contract instead.

Im not arguing that I am arguing that after that there is NOBODY with NFL experience on the roster.

In a related note, Charcandrick West just signed with the Colts as they just put Foreman on IR.

I m not sold on there are ton of talented RB's out there to improve our roster.

There aren't gonna be any likely all pro RB's floating around out there.

But a guy that could come in and be adequate or put up solid numbers? Yeah, probably.

I doubt they would actually look to bring in anyone though, just go with whats on the roster.

Correct because THAT is why Hyde is on the roster.

If that's all we're looking for, there are 2 other guys on the roster that likely could do that and actually have upside to be better.


Hyde has shown the last couple years, he struggles to even be adequate.

If we were to cut Cam this year we would have $2,863,334 of dead money and would save only $302,707 against the cap.

While I was at Overthecap.com, looked at Marcus Kemp (IR) $570,000.

Also Carlos Hyde to cut would have $1,500,000 of dead money and $1,237,500 of cap savings.

There is no evidence Darrel Williams is any better than Hyde. None.

We have a lot of evidence that Hyde sucks though.

Actually you don't.

2017 he played all 16 games with a bad 49er team and had 940 yards on 240 carries and 350 yards receiving. 2016 he had 968 yards rushing.

Yea he has been on 2 bad teams since and didn't play much.

Darrel Williams will likely never total those 2 years in his career.

3 years ago, he was fine.

Last year in Cleveland he sucked, then Chubb takes over and they have a good running game.

Rbs fall off cliffs. He has been under 4 ypc since 2016. That's not good.

Chubb was the starter the whole season and was good and bad.

https://www.espn.com/nfl/player/game...720/nick-chubb


I'm all in on Damien Williams and Derwin Thompson, I just want a better fall back plan that Darrel Williams. It looks like all 4 make the team anyway.

EVERYONE else! :spock:

He has looked HORRIFIC; slow, out of shape, missed assignments and just not qualified to be blocking for Mahomes.

Chubb didn't start til week 7

I really do not think Carlos Hyde is going to be cut by the Chiefs.

1. He has had 1 bad year, not two. In 2017 he had 938 yards rushing and 350 yards receiving. 2018 was a bad year with Cleveland and Jacksonville.

2. Chiefs would waste money by cutting him and it also is not a good message to NFL agents and free agent players by cutting player and not giving them a fair opportunity to compete.

3. Chiefs aren't faced with a problem of too many good running backs on their roster. Damien Williams, Carlos Hyde, Darwin Thompson, Darrel Williams, and Anthony Sherman will do fine in Any Reid's offense. Tremon Smith is not a RB.

4. The only free agent RB of note is Jay Ajayi and I think he is waiting for some team to have a serious need at RB before he signs somewhere.

5. Chiefs are in good shape with their cap space.