Dave Chappelle: Stick & Stones on Netflix
Just finished his new comedy special. He goes all in on Michael Jackson, metoo movement, LBGTQ community just in the first 15 minutes. He doesn't have anyone to answer to and you can tell.
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I laughed my ass off the entire special, I feel like this one was a notch or two better than the previous special he had. This was classic Dave, and I know people are gonna hate on him lol.
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Sounds like someone is sure to be offended. |
Dave is a genius.
First of all the man was clearly trying to offend anyone and everyone who was a sensitive pussy. It worked. I read about 20 articles within a week about how problematic it was. The Twitterati had a little tantrum. He tried to offend everyone, but really only one group of people started the typical crying about jokes. |
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https://thegrapevine.theroot.com/did...d-h-1837656015 https://www.theatlantic.com/entertai...stones/596947/ Just the usual suspects. Just go to google and type "Dave Chappelle sticks and stones problematic" into your little computer machine and watch the tears flow. |
I watched it less than 24 hours after it was released for free on one of my sites. Laughed pretty damn hard for nearly all of it.
He is probably today's best story-telling comic and his ability to hold off on the punch line until he thinks the audience is right at the edge of their seats in anticipation is incredible. He has such a great cadence to his joke telling. Trying to even think of anyone who does it better. He just runs at HIS pace and doesn't speed up or front run his jokes before the audience is ready. https://www4.fusionmovies.to/film/da...u3NR1/Ze3FZaY5 Make sure to have your Adblock Plus extension in Google Chrome and your Anti-virus software running. It will launch a new tab the first 2-3 times you click on the play button and all you do is close that tab. |
chappelle is the man! i audibly laughed on at least 1,000 occasions :D
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Man, I was expecting much worse given the backlash, but I guess that highlights how sensitive the current environment is. I recently re-watched Delirious and the first couple minutes of that would explode the news cycle if released today.
S&S was highly enjoyable and I got some good laughs, but didn't think it was his best material. Seemed to come from a place of frustration rather than organic humor. I do appreciate how smart his jokes can be though, like the analogy of driving the car. The Juicy Smolliet bit had me rolling though. |
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This one was more universally funny to me than a lot of his other stuff. The deal about the the comedy central censorship was an example of how ****ing good he is. If you read a transcript of the words it is really not funny. Fairly profound, but not funny.
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But his execution was impeccable. Goddamned hilarious. |
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He's brilliant. Makes ya laugh, and makes ya think
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Watched it. Was pretty funny. 8/10. Would watch again.
Not as good as alot of today's comics though, but I do appreciate what he was trying to do. |
I love offensive humor if it has a fun angle on it, and Chappelle again knocks it out of the park on this, except in a couple places.
The angle that Louis CK's abuse wasn't that bad is just misogynistic bullshit. And I expect misogyny in comedy but that's so damn ridiculous I'm shocked Dave was that lazy to argue it. I'm also not interested in re-litigating Michael Jackson's accusers potentially lying, because the fact that Michael Jackson treated them well aside from sexual exploitation is a joke that's been made on SNL since Norm McDonald. The LGBT sharing a car bit was inspired. Most of the special was, and it has the odd perspectives and hilarious angles that you expect from him. But those are two lazy-ass jokes that are so asinine, I'm irked they even graced his special. |
Man, I love Chapelle. He's the best at making you laugh and making you think just by telling stories. The best thing is that he does it without being judgmental. He makes you think about it while being able to laugh out loud at both sides of the issues. Hands down the best around in my book. Also love Norm McDonald.
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And the 'prosecution' of the matter is simply a change in the social currency of the individual in question. This isn't a matter of coercion or quid pro quo, and we never got a forum where we actually delved into the specifics of what possible implicit or soft power CK may have exerted. The whole thing stinks of excessive narrative construction after the fact. Some see a powerful comic 'imposing' his good graces in order to engage in 'perverted' acts. It is just as plausible to see a lonely schlub away from home reaching out to compatible colleagues for potential mutual release. |
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Some people like creepy. And FTR if there are more accounts out there I haven't heard them, but he; jacked off while on the phone and jacked off while someone watched. Not my cup of tea, but different strokes [npi] for different folks. And repeated conduct, if anything, obviates evidence of a violation. For instance, CK has done similar stuff with Sarah Silverman. Sometimes she indulged him, sometimes she told him to cut it out. No evidence he balked at either situation. the only differences there are, again this nebulous concept of relative power in the industry, and personal assertiveness. Neither of which has anyone established was on CK's mind at the time of the interactions. |
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With Cosby, it was multiple reporting LOSING CONSCIOUSNESS after consuming something Cosby supplied, and waking having been violated. With CK, it was multiple people where he ASKED THEM 'hey, you mind if I do this?' Whatever your personal proclivities, 'hey, mind if I do this' is part of how IT'S SUPPOSED to happen, not 'smoke.' |
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There's this tiny group of twitterati clowns who are hyper offended in their wokeness, but the media (including critics) are just dominated by ideology. They can't set it aside and just enjoy something. Instead of treating them like the tiny hyper sensitive minority they are, the media constantly puts these ridiculous narratives front and center. I don't personally KNOW anyone, including my many progressive friends, who disliked this special. The outrage is entirely created by media and the usual suspects on twitter. It's fake news. The truth is that it was pretty much universally enjoyed. Yet there were dozens of articles condemning it for 'woke' reasons within a day of it's release. The joke police can go **** themselves. XD |
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Anyway, whatever your interpretation of CK's events, here's what at least two female comedians admitted to doing, and what CK himself has admitted to happening: He invited a female comedic duo into his place after a show, and they said yes because they admire his work and thought there was nothing suggestive about the suggestion. That it would in fact be socializing with a famous peer. At some point, he whips out his penis without anything close to consent and masturbates in front of them. This was not invited in any way beforehand, and not welcomed in any way during the experience. They were disturbed and potentially scared -- the scared part is unclear, I don't remember if they said that. I believe they said they dropped out of comedy because of that experience. So there's an argument I saw a lot on here on ChiefsPlanet that, unbelievably, pops up in Dave Chappelle's routine: "so, what, CK whips out his penis and masturbates and they didn't run to the door?" That just shows an epic ignorance that dumb men have who have never been sexually assaulted. If you are a woman, and a man whips his penis out without welcome, it is terrifying. It is completely unclear what the man intends or what he is capable of doing. But he's bigger than you, and he's stronger than you. And there is no right response to that. Running to the door and potentially risking him chasing you is an option. So is staying calm and waiting the experience out, which is what they did. Now Dave ****ing Chappelle is making their experience even more horrific by saying "c'mon, they didn't run, we didn't have to make their harassment sound worse than it was?" Just a lazy, ignorant argument that you don't expect from Chappelle. You expect it from clueless male misogynists on an internet message board. |
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Louey CK is apparently a very weird and creepy dude. But I agree with the poster who said if we place what Louey CK did in the same box as other sexual assaults it marginalizes those experiences. Huge difference between a rape and some guy jerking it. |
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What Louey CK did was wrong, but how egregious something is is very important. Everything in life is not black or white, even though we try to make it out to be like that. There are shades and degrees of good and bad. Some things are much worse than others. I think Joe Rogan had a bit that summed it up pretty well quite a bit in his "Dude, You're going to be Batman" part on Triggered. |
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Modern marriage is only a few hundred years old. :D |
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