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SAGA45 09-16-2019 08:35 AM

Is it Darwin Thompson time?
 
With Damien Williams (knee) and LeSean McCoy (ankle) banged up, do you guys think this week could be Thompson's opportunity to go off? I think it'd be awesome to see the kid come in and have a big game.

Mecca 09-16-2019 08:37 AM

I'm assuming those are minor injuries and they likely won't miss time.

keg in kc 09-16-2019 08:41 AM

I don't expect we'll see any of our backs have big rushing totals against the Ravens. They've given up 41 yards total in two weeks, under 2 yards/carry. And we only average 3 ourselves, so far. So it's our weakness against their strength.

And our problems with rushing haven't so far been about the backs as much as the scheme and the blocking.

In58men 09-16-2019 08:41 AM

Damien Williams through 2 games:

22 carries
34 yards

Longest rush, 6 yards.

TinyEvel 09-16-2019 08:43 AM

I want to see what the kid can do.

Doesn’t feel like I’ve seen many pass plays to RBs coming out of the backfield. Yesterday our O-line couldn’t do anything to open up a hole.

Though, I just realized, I think Ive seen zero of the sideways passes that seemed to be half the plays durin AS11s time. Thank God. RIP sideways passes for zero yds.

carcosa 09-16-2019 08:43 AM

Yas kween!

jimidollar 09-16-2019 08:45 AM

Do it.

Mecca 09-16-2019 08:46 AM

If teams are going to play us by crowding the line and playing cover 0 there aren't going to be running lanes.

We saw the Jags take a more passive approach to not get beat deep and lanes were huge, the Raiders go the other way and give up a bunch of huge passes...most teams don't have the balls to play the way the Raiders tried to because it leads to well giving up 5 straight 30 yard passes.

WhiteWhale 09-16-2019 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by In58men (Post 14451789)
Damien Williams through 2 games:

22 carries
34 yards

Longest rush, 6 yards.

Eh, yeah. Williams has had the bad fortune of taking the hand off on some really busted runs.

KC's problem against the Raiders wasn't the RB's. They had no room and Oakland was NOT going to let them run from the shotgun. They clamped down on the run and short passing game.

So we went 'bombs away'. An interesting strategy I don't expect others to emulate. Most teams would rather die by 1000 cuts than give up big play after big play.

WhiteWhale 09-16-2019 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 14451802)
If teams are going to play us by crowding the line and playing cover 0 there aren't going to be running lanes.

We saw the Jags take a more passive approach to not get beat deep and lanes were huge, the Raiders go the other way and give up a bunch of huge passes...most teams don't have the balls to play the way the Raiders tried to because it leads to well giving up 5 straight 30 yard passes.

Yes.

keg in kc 09-16-2019 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by TinyEvel (Post 14451794)
Doesn’t feel like I’ve seen many pass plays to RBs coming out of the backfield.

Might be a misperception. Williams has been targeted 11 times in two weeks, has 9 catches for 87 yards, and both the two misses would have been long gainers. McCoy has another 4 catches on 4 targets, but not much in the way of yardage. They're still getting some shots.

WhiteWhale 09-16-2019 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 14451816)
Might be a misperception. Williams has been targeted 11 times in two weeks, has 9 catches for 87 yards, and both the two misses would have been long gainers. McCoy has another 4 catches on 4 targets, but not much in the way of yardage. They're still getting some shots.

Well, and we just played a game where our WR's were routinely matched up 1 on 1 down the field.

Mahomes isn't a guy who's going to let a defense get away with that shit.

Mahomes was just missing his RB's on those flares yesterday too. As crazy as it is... Mahomes was off yesterday. He threw for 440+ yards, 4 TD's, and 0 INT's anyway. He's unreal.

I feel like I'm trapped in the matrix and the only giveaway is that the chiefs have a QB who's just unrealistically awesome.

O.city 09-16-2019 09:10 AM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> RB LeSean McCoy suffered an ankle injury late in Sunday’s game and he’s having an MRI today, source said. At first glance, it doesnt appear to be major, but the MRI will tell alll.</p>&mdash; Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) <a href="https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/1173614698211753985?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 16, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Titty Meat 09-16-2019 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by In58men (Post 14451789)
Damien Williams through 2 games:

22 carries
34 yards

Longest rush, 6 yards.

Now post his recieving numbers....

pugsnotdrugs19 09-16-2019 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 14451856)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> RB LeSean McCoy suffered an ankle injury late in Sunday’s game and he’s having an MRI today, source said. At first glance, it doesnt appear to be major, but the MRI will tell alll.</p>&mdash; Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) <a href="https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/1173614698211753985?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 16, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Hopefully that’s not more than a 1-2 week deal.

chiefzilla1501 09-16-2019 09:19 AM

I guess I'm less cheery about it than others. I think our running game is good enough. I don't think it's great by any means. Our RBs have been downright lethal in space and in the passing game. Shady looked good against the jags. Damien hasn't really looked great as a pure runner in either game.

I wonder if we're kind of like the old School patriots where the screen game basically becomes our running game.

Coochie liquor 09-16-2019 09:29 AM

Depends on if his pass blocking has improved. With Mahomes a little limpy, we need to make sure whoever is out there can and will protect him. Like when Shady took the holding penalty yesterday, because he was making sure Pat didn’t get hit.

O.city 09-16-2019 09:32 AM

The Raiders IIRC, actually had and have a pretty good run D.

Iconic 09-16-2019 09:38 AM

He's definitely going to get more than his 1 snap ritual. I'm extremely excited because frankly I think he's a better rusher than the guys ahead of him on the depth chart.

Iconic 11-01-2019 11:45 AM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">KC RB coach: “Last week, the plan was to get him more involved. I think with the number of plays we had, we did have some packages for him, but we just didn’t get an opportunity to get to [them]. But if you watch Darwin in practice, we’ve got to get that guy out there.” <a href="https://t.co/yLXkuEU4Ck">https://t.co/yLXkuEU4Ck</a></p>&mdash; Sigmund Bloom (@SigmundBloom) <a href="https://twitter.com/SigmundBloom/status/1190287540059852800?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 1, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

IT'S GONNA HAPPEN!!11

TLO 11-01-2019 05:22 PM

He looks small and like he's gonna get killed every time he's tackled.

dlphg9 11-01-2019 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by TLO (Post 14567504)
He looks small and like he's gonna get killed every time he's tackled.

He may be short, but this guy is ****ing stout

dlphg9 11-01-2019 05:43 PM

Hes 5'8" 201 lbs. Barry Sanders 5'8" 203 lbs Ray Rice 5'8" 206lbs Maurice Jones Drew 5'7" 210 lbs

Those guys were pretty good and received a bulk of the carries. Im not concerned about it.

Iconic 11-01-2019 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by TLO (Post 14567504)
He looks small and like he's gonna get killed every time he's tackled.

He's literally bigger and stronger than Phillip Lindsey that's a reeruned ass thing to say. Go watch his tape, just like Reek he does not play like his size.

BossChief 11-01-2019 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by dlphg9 (Post 14567534)
Hes 5'8" 201 lbs. Barry Sanders 5'8" 203 lbs Ray Rice 5'8" 206lbs Maurice Jones Drew 5'7" 210 lbs

Those guys were pretty good and received a bulk of the carries. Im not concerned about it.

And he runs similarly to all of them except Barry.

Good vision
Tremendous balance
Difference making drive
Great acceleration
Very strong

It’s a long shot to think he will be as good as them, but in college and pS the styles are very similar.

TribalElder 11-01-2019 08:17 PM

There was a metric like yards after contact or something that Thompson was 2nd to only k hunt

TribalElder 11-01-2019 08:20 PM

He ranked fourth in forced missed tackles per touch (0.349) and second in yards after contact per touch (6.91) among the 210 FBS backs with 100 or more touches on the year. Though limited to just 151 carries this past season, Thompson ranked eighth in forced missed tackles per rush (0.318) and sixth in yards after contact per rush (5.07). His ability to make defenders miss in the open field and remain upright through contact is among the best entering this year’s draft

https://www.chiefs.com/news/five-thi...arwin-thompson

Rain Man 11-01-2019 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by dlphg9 (Post 14567526)
He may be short, but this guy is ****ing stout

Yeah, he's solid.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D22uHtFXQAAdc3t.jpg

MVChiefFan 11-01-2019 08:30 PM

Lil’ Swole!!!

Kiimo 11-01-2019 08:49 PM

I hope we do play him so I can show my face in some fantasy football forums that I had to leave in shame after the full-on Darwin Campaign I ran all preseason.

Hammock Parties 11-01-2019 08:51 PM

he should have way more touches at this point

he has that tyreek hill freaky athletic build and talent

no idea why we are wasting touches on that loser damien, who has never been shit in the NFL

i have a fun fantasy that reid is saving DW for the Pats, though....

eDave 11-01-2019 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 14567696)

Man I wish I was black.

rydogg58 11-01-2019 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by eDave (Post 14567725)
Man I wish I was black.

Well, I wouldn't sweat it man. You never know, he might like white men as well.

UChieffyBugger 11-01-2019 10:14 PM

Chase Edmonds from Zona is 5'9, 205 pounds and quick like Darwin. And as you can see HERE the Cards weren't afraid to mix it up and have him do all kinds of different things from sweeps, to running between the tackles and catching the ball out of the back-field. IF Andy can trust the kid and get him involved like this I really think it would take our offense to another level. Darwin showed in preseason how great he can be running between the tackles and also catching the ball...time to give him a chance now.

bringbackmarty 11-01-2019 10:21 PM

Chill on Windex Clay, he was never supposed to be a #1, but if he gets his body right he might lead the team in td's in the playoffs. Yes we should see some more termite, but it always seems like it's a rb catching a long seam route that gets us the td we need vs the pats, after said rb throws a little chip block. Termite doesn't have that in his bag.

stevieray 11-01-2019 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by eDave (Post 14567725)
Man I wish I was black.

That's just hours in the gym.

HOURS.

stevieray 11-01-2019 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by TLO (Post 14567504)
He looks small and like he's gonna get killed every time he's tackled.

He front squatted 600 lbs with no support.

Hammock Parties 11-01-2019 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by bringbackmarty (Post 14567799)
Chill on Windex Clay, he was never supposed to be a #1, but if he gets his body right he might lead the team in td's in the playoffs. Yes we should see some more termite, but it always seems like it's a rb catching a long seam route that gets us the td we need vs the pats, after said rb throws a little chip block. Termite doesn't have that in his bag.

****in bullshit he doesn't

he's a great receiver

UChieffyBugger 11-01-2019 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by eDave (Post 14567725)
Man I wish I was black.

"Everybody wants to be BLACK, until it's time to be BLACK" Chefs

Buehler445 11-01-2019 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by stevieray (Post 14567818)
He front squatted 600 lbs with no support.

I hurt myself just thinking about it.

Valiant 11-01-2019 11:40 PM

Same was said of Charles. Give the kid the chance. Might be the spark we need.

Chief Northman 11-01-2019 11:41 PM

Non-factor/JAG.

Titty Meat 11-01-2019 11:42 PM

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Originally Posted by eDave (Post 14567725)
Man I wish I was black.

From some of the pics you sent me I could sworn u were

staylor26 11-01-2019 11:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief Northman (Post 14567849)
Non-factor/JAG.

Writing him off 8 games into his career before he even gets an opportunity?

Chief Northman 11-01-2019 11:57 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 14567855)
Writing him off 8 games into his career before he even gets an opportunity?

No.
More like tempering typical CP homerism/overhype.

Maybe there are reasons he is not getting the opportunities...

BossChief 11-02-2019 12:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Chief Northman (Post 14567861)
No.
More like tempering typical CP homerism/overhype.

Maybe there are reasons he is not getting the opportunities...

If Shady hasn’t become available, Darwin would be challenging for the starting role by now.

UChieffyBugger 11-02-2019 12:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Chief Northman (Post 14567861)
No.
More like tempering typical CP homerism/overhype.

Maybe there are reasons he is not getting the opportunities...

Khalen Saunders wouldn't have gotten a chance If Jones didn't go down and now he looks very good...have to give a guy a chance before writing them off. I cannot see how Darwin would do any worse than the others tbh...and we need to try all options as right now our running game is useless.

Red Dawg 11-02-2019 08:40 AM

I don't understand why Thompson is not second in the rotation or one. Our running game has been shit so what are we waiting for?

crispystl 11-02-2019 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Red Dawg (Post 14568010)
I don't understand why Thompson is not second in the rotation or one. Our running game has been shit so what are we waiting for?

Or AT LEAST sprinkle a few situational plays in for him here and there.

BWillie 11-02-2019 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by TLO (Post 14567504)
He looks small and like he's gonna get killed every time he's tackled.

Remember Warrick Dunn? This whole idea that if you are small you are more injury prone doesn't really have any backing to it.

Iconic 11-02-2019 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 14567866)
If Shady hasn’t become available, Darwin would be challenging for the starting role by now.

This x100 people completely forget before McCoy was in the mix Darwin was gearing up to be our number 2 in preseason. Andy is usually very, very slow with his rookies and Darwin is getting that treatment.

The tape does not lie, you're not a homer if you're excited about Darwin. He has genuine talent that will translate to the field.

Chief Northman 11-02-2019 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Iconic (Post 14568049)
This x100 people completely forget before McCoy was in the mix Darwin was gearing up to be our number 2 in preseason. Andy is usually very, very slow with his rookies and Darwin is getting that treatment.

The tape does not lie, you're not a homer if you're excited about Darwin. He has genuine talent that will translate to the field.

But every time they give him his token play, it generally ends as an incompletion, a tackle for loss, or a gain of 1-2 yards.

Just call him Charkandrick without the pass protection ability...

Bwana 11-02-2019 09:44 AM

I've been calling for this for weeks as well. Get the guy the damn rock already.

ThaVirus 11-02-2019 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Iconic (Post 14568049)
This x100 people completely forget before McCoy was in the mix Darwin was gearing up to be our number 2 in preseason. Andy is usually very, very slow with his rookies and Darwin is getting that treatment.

The tape does not lie, you're not a homer if you're excited about Darwin. He has genuine talent that will translate to the field.

No he wasn't. Guy had training camp and the entire preseason to earn playing time and couldn't do it.

Iconic 11-02-2019 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Chief Northman (Post 14568054)
But every time they give him his token play, it generally ends as an incompletion, a tackle for loss, or a gain of 1-2 yards.

Just call him Charkandrick without the pass protection ability...

wtf r u even saying he's had 4 rushes and 2 receptions in 8 games. what token plays LMAO

he hasn't had jack shit with regards to opportunities, and if you're dumb enough to consider him chark 2.0 based off 6 total plays then that's on you

Iconic 11-02-2019 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 14568075)
No he wasn't. Guy had training camp and the entire preseason to earn playing time and couldn't do it.

what a dumb ****ing thing to say. he was literally our second string back in preseason. he was getting his reps with henne, darrel was coming in with shurmur

dude averaged 5 yards per attempt off 12 attempts and 12.7 per reception.

but sure ok, he didn't earn a lick of pt. he sucked out loud and that's why coaches are going out of their ****ing way to say they have packages in place for him and he looks great in practice

Otter 11-02-2019 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by TLO (Post 14567504)
He looks small and like he's gonna get killed every time he's tackled.

That looks like a man who can take a hit. Being short is often advantages in physical activity.

Unless you're a lineman.

ThaVirus 11-02-2019 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Iconic (Post 14568082)
what a dumb ****ing thing to say. he was literally our second string back in preseason. he was getting his reps with henne, darrel was coming in with shurmur

dude averaged 5 yards per attempt off 12 attempts and 12.7 per reception.

but sure ok, he didn't earn a lick of pt. he sucked out loud and that's why coaches are going out of their ****ing way to say they have packages in place for him and he looks great in practice

How long did that last? Lol. Face it: the kid clearly showed the coaches he wasn't ready yet, which is why we're halfway through the season and he's got like 6 touches.

I never said he sucked, by the way. Are you Darwin Thompson? Is that why you're so butthurt right now?

They drafted him so surely they want to get him on the field.

Iconic 11-02-2019 11:15 AM

what the **** are you rambling on about???

i don't give a single reeruned **** how long it lasted??? the point, you inbred **** ****, is that darwin was indeed setting up to be the 2nd string back until mccoy jumped ship

ThaVirus 11-02-2019 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Iconic (Post 14568139)
what the **** are you rambling on about???

i don't give a single reeruned **** how long it lasted??? the point, you inbred **** ****, is that darwin was indeed setting up to be the 2nd string back until mccoy jumped ship

Then explain how he's now our 4th string back. That's some fuzzy math.

Valiant 11-02-2019 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 14568111)
How long did that last? Lol. Face it: the kid clearly showed the coaches he wasn't ready yet, which is why we're halfway through the season and he's got like 6 touches.

I never said he sucked, by the way. Are you Darwin Thompson? Is that why you're so butthurt right now?

They drafted him so surely they want to get him on the field.

No, if you watch league wide very few coaches will put a rookie over a player they already paid or traded for. Hunt would not had his breakout without the injury. Charles would have been on another team if ljwasnt an ass.

The kid has shown flashes, but no real game time touches. Shady has singlehandedly helped in two losses.

ThaVirus 11-02-2019 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Valiant (Post 14568305)
No, if you watch league wide very few coaches will put a rookie over a player they already paid or traded for. Hunt would not had his breakout without the injury. Charles would have been on another team if ljwasnt an ass.

The kid has shown flashes, but no real game time touches. Shady has singlehandedly helped in two losses.

That's cool. Really cool story.

What's it got to do with what we're talking about?

Bottom line: our RB position heading into preseason was shit. Damien was hurt, no one believed in Darrel, and LeSean wasn't on the team. If Darwin had shown that he was ready to play he'd have gotten his opportunity to do so by now. Especially with Dame averaging negative 6 YPC and Shady fumbling away multiple games.

He could come in and play well. It wouldn't be the first time it's happened.. but that's not the debate.

Iconic 11-02-2019 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 14568161)
Then explain how he's now our 4th string back. That's some fuzzy math.

i don't have to explain a literal ****ing thing. my point was he was setting up to be the 2nd stringer before mccoy got here. and he was, based off preseason and who he was playing with. absolutely jack ****ing shit will change that fact.

why he's not getting reps post mccoy is an entirely different debate and i don't give a god damn mother****ing shit about speculating the cause with you

Kiimo 11-03-2019 11:01 AM

WTF Darwin in active today.


What a cocktease. Somebody please explain to me what is going on with this guy

ThaVirus 11-03-2019 11:06 AM

Darwin's "gearing up!!!@1!"

Aaaaand he's inactive again LMAO

cabletech94 11-03-2019 11:16 AM

heres a hot take!!

hear me out here. what if darwin is reid's "secret weapon" to use against the Pats, much like hunt. no tape out there for BB to see.

winning! flame away........

BossChief 11-03-2019 11:17 AM

Kris Wilson 2?

RGR has been right about this kid all along. He didn’t give much reasoning, but said from early on that Thompson wouldn’t play a lot as a rookie.

Chiefshrink 11-03-2019 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Kiimosabi (Post 14569227)
WTF Darwin in active today.


What a cocktease. Somebody please explain to me what is going on with this guy

IMHO, they don't trust him in pass blocking(recognizing/his size-going against the Vikes D) and maybe he is slow picking up the playbook as well.

Deberg_1990 12-01-2019 06:02 PM

Yes please!

More playing time.

Molitoth 12-01-2019 06:02 PM

Dude runs HARD.

ThaVirus 12-01-2019 06:03 PM

Loved seeing all the other guys being so happy for him getting his first TD

smithandrew051 12-01-2019 06:03 PM

Fresh legs at the right time. Feed him.

staylor26 12-01-2019 06:08 PM

Yea he need to be a part of the gameplan every single week

Great Expectations 12-01-2019 06:08 PM

He has looked very good every chance he has received. Just didn’t get any from preseason until today. I think he is our best back, but I’ve also thought that since mid-August. Remember that Hunt wouldn't have gotten looks early if it wasn’t for injuries.

carcosa 12-01-2019 06:09 PM

yes

-King- 12-01-2019 06:10 PM

Looked great on a drive where the raiders knew he was getting the ball every play. Just think of how he might look when the defense has to also worry about Mahomes passing.

treeguy27 12-01-2019 06:30 PM

It was good to see us finally close out a game by being able to run the ball. Something that wasn't happening with the other backs. Love to see him continue to get some carries next week.

Redbled 12-01-2019 06:30 PM

He looks like our best back right now.

Hammock Parties 12-01-2019 06:31 PM

Darwin's coming out party against NE.

Just like Kareem.

Pocket Hercules will rise.

rabblerouser 12-01-2019 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by treeguy27 (Post 14628456)
It was good to see us finally close out a game by being able to run the ball. Something that wasn't happening with the other backs. Love to see him continue to get some carries next week.

It helps to have Sausage in front and extra TEs on the line, too


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