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Hammock Parties 11-01-2019 08:08 AM

KC Star demands the Chiefs stop the chop
 
****ing piece of shit fishwrap

Stop the offensive ‘Arrowhead Chop.’ It’s time for a new Chiefs tradition

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Quote:

The image of former Kansas City Chiefs star Derrick Johnson banging the war drum at Arrowhead Stadium provided a stark reminder of the home team’s offensive and outdated tradition.

While Johnson led the prelude to last Sunday’s nationally-televised contest between the Chiefs and Green Bay, fans waved their arms back and forth in unison, banding together for the Tomahawk Chop.

It was a bad look for Kansas City — and an affront to Native Americans.

For years, the Chiefs organization has worked with Native American groups to address concerns about the negative stereotypes that have been on display at our home games. The team no longer promotes face paint or headdresses that disrespect the heritage or customs of Native Americans.

And Native Americans have blessed the use of the Chiefs’ war drum in accordance with their customs and rituals.

But the ever-present “Arrowhead Chop” at home games, along with Chiefs officials’ unwillingness to disavow the cheer, are evidence that the team still has more work to do.

“The Arrowhead Chop is part of the game-day experience that is really important to our fans,” said team President Mark Donovan.

But why? Arrowhead Stadium is one of the loudest places to play in the NFL, and there’s no doubt that Chiefs fans will bring the noise — with or without the chop.

The divisive chant is racially insensitive and entirely unnecessary.

“The chop itself is the most disgusting thing you can do in sports,” said Amanda Blackhorse of Arizona to Rally Against Native Mascots, a national group opposed to the use of Native American images in sports.

The continued use of Native American mascots, nicknames and themes in sports dehumanizes Native Americans, Blackhorse said.

“I disagree with so much of what they are doing,” she said of the Chiefs organization’s continued encouragement of the chop. “At this point, they are ignoring the opposition. Shame on them for allowing racism to happen in that stadium.”

Elizabeth Glynn, the CEO of Travois, which helps create affordable housing and economic development opportunities for American Indians, has spoken to leaders of tribal nations and said most are against the use of any imagery that depicts Native Americans in a bad light. Travois works with more than 100 tribes in 22 states.

“No one wants to take away the enjoyment for fans,” Glynn said. “There are a lot of ways to have fun at games. You can do that without labeling and stereotyping an entire group of people.”

Of course, the Chiefs aren’t the only organization that has clung to this offensive celebration. The Tomahawk Chop came under fire earlier this month during the Major League Baseball playoff series between the St. Louis Cardinals and the Atlanta Braves.

St. Louis pitcher Ryan Helsley of the Cherokee Nation was asked for his thoughts about the Braves’ game-day tradition. Hensley didn’t mince words, and the Atlanta organization immediately halted its foam tomahawks giveaway.

“I’m trying to use my voice to get awareness out there and try to help people in that way, to help people see another side, help people see our side,” Helsley told the St. Louis Post-Dispatch.

While sports teams have paid lip service to racial sensitivity, the Washington Redskins have shown no inclination to change their distasteful and inappropriate nickname. Cleveland’s baseball team was painfully slow to phase out its mascot, which belittled Native Americans, Chief Wahoo.

The Chiefs have taken steps in the right direction, but their unwavering commitment to the Arrowhead Chop is confounding and disappointing. What purpose does it serve? And why continue the chant if it offends even a single Native American?

Chiefs fans are among the most loyal and enthusiastic in the NFL. And there’s no doubt they would fill any void left by the absence of the chop with a high-decibel celebration of our team.

November is National Native American Heritage Month. The Chiefs plan to celebrate the culture during a game against Oakland on Dec. 1. But the organization could do far more good if it used this month to reevaluate a practice that perpetuates stereotypes and dehumanizes an entire group.

It’s time for a new Chiefs tradition.

jjjayb 11-01-2019 08:09 AM

**** the Star.

TEX 11-01-2019 08:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jjjayb (Post 14566551)
**** the Star.

THIS X 1000.

Scaga 11-01-2019 08:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jjjayb (Post 14566551)
**** the Star.

Yeah...what he said

rabblerouser 11-01-2019 08:17 AM

KC Star can go suck Brooke Pryor's dick.

old_geezer 11-01-2019 08:20 AM

It's time for a new Kansas City newspaper.

comochiefsfan 11-01-2019 08:23 AM

Let me guess, the author is white.

George Liquor 11-01-2019 08:24 AM

- By the Kansas City Star editorial board

Cowards too afraid to put a name on their sjw hit piece?

FAX 11-01-2019 08:25 AM

So ... they pull another holier-than-thou stunt at the same time they are begging for spare change from potential subscribers?

Death wish.

FAX

Frazod 11-01-2019 08:25 AM

I always thought the chop was kind of annoying, but I'll definitely partake in it now. I'm all for anything that makes the SJW ****s cry.

Graystoke 11-01-2019 08:28 AM

Chop the KC Star from your life

dirk digler 11-01-2019 08:28 AM

how stupid. Everybody wants to get offended anymore, whether it is the chop or saying Chiefs at the end of the National anthem. People need to pull the stick out of their ass.

Titty Meat 11-01-2019 08:28 AM

**** off liberals

Prison Bitch 11-01-2019 08:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by comochiefsfan (Post 14566570)
Let me guess, the author is white.

Virtually guaranteed


And drives a Prius

smithandrew051 11-01-2019 08:30 AM

“The divisive chant”

How can it be divisive if the entire stadium is doing? Sounds like it unified people to me.

You know what’s actually divisive? Local media that tries to be the moral compass for an entire city that just wants to support their favorite team in peace.

Seriously, **** the Star.

Fish 11-01-2019 08:31 AM

LOL... **** those guys....

Dartgod 11-01-2019 08:35 AM

Quote:

“The chop itself is the most disgusting thing you can do in sports,” said Amanda Blackhorse of Arizona to Rally Against Native Mascots
Oh, really?

I can think of a whole host of things more disgusting, starting with Brooke Pryor.

Frazod 11-01-2019 08:35 AM

Sure would be nice if a bunch of locals could gather outside their offices and start doing the chop.

smithandrew051 11-01-2019 08:36 AM

”And why continue the chant if it offends even a single Native American?”

I can’t believe they actually published this line. Seriously?

I bet I could find 1 person of Irish descent who is offended by the stereotype perpetrated by the another Dame Fighting Irish. Shouldn’t they have to change their mascot?

Do we need to take a poll of all Native Americans to see if everything we do is okay? What a load of shit.

comochiefsfan 11-01-2019 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Frazod (Post 14566576)
I always thought the chop was kind of annoying, but I'll definitely partake in it now. I'm all for anything that makes the SJW ****s cry.

https://media1.tenor.com/images/de39...itemid=5638082

AdolfOliverBush 11-01-2019 08:38 AM

Adults, debating some stupid chopping gesture. Jesus H. Christ. LOL

Naptown Chief 11-01-2019 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Titty Meat (Post 14566582)
**** off liberals

This

Mecca 11-01-2019 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by smithandrew051 (Post 14566605)
”And why continue the chant if it offends even a single Native American?”

I can’t believe they actually published this line. Seriously?

I bet I could find 1 person of Irish descent who is offended by the stereotype perpetrated by the another Dame Fighting Irish. Shouldn’t they have to change their mascot?

Do we need to take a poll of all Native Americans to see if everything we do is okay? What a load of shit.

We use to live in a majority rules world, we don't anymore, now if 1 person is offended we're all supposed to stop doing it.

They teach kids this shit in school, when we grew up we were told the sticks and stones line to teach us to grow a thin skin, today they tell kids if anyone says anything you don't like that isn't ok.

George Liquor 11-01-2019 08:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smithandrew051 (Post 14566587)
“The divisive chant”

How can it be divisive if the entire stadium is doing? Sounds like it unified people to me.

You know what’s actually divisive? Local media that tries to be the moral compass for an entire city that just wants to support their favorite team in peace.

Seriously, **** the Star.

Woke Twitter doesn't like it

warrior 11-01-2019 08:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Graystoke (Post 14566580)
Chop the KC Star from your life




LOL- if you haven't already

Mecca 11-01-2019 08:42 AM

I'm sure that pussy Cardinal pitcher that complained about the Braves will weigh in.

IowaHawkeyeChief 11-01-2019 08:44 AM

This is like a person with stage 4 lung cancer smoking a pack of Marlboro's every two hours...

comochiefsfan 11-01-2019 08:47 AM

I identify as an American Bull Gator and it angers me to my core every time I see fans at Florida doing that horribly offensive “gator chomp”.

I will be writing a strongly worded editorial in the Gainesville Sun demanding that the University stop appropriating Alligators this way.

If even one member of the Crocodilia family is offended, then UF needs to do the right thing and end this disgusting cheer.

KCrockaholic 11-01-2019 08:50 AM

Soft little pussy ass society we live in these days smh

Couch-Potato 11-01-2019 08:52 AM

I'm not saying it isn't, but help me to understand how the Chop or other Native American themed decore is racist? I always thought that the Chiefs were providing a positive image of Native Americans, unlike the Redskins.

Perineum Ripper 11-01-2019 08:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 14566584)
Virtually guaranteed


And drives a Prius

Eats kale, and thinks GMO food is the debil.

Mecca 11-01-2019 08:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCrockaholic (Post 14566630)
Soft little pussy ass society we live in these days smh

Its not going to go away either, kids are basically taught this in school. They are very coddled and basically trained that anything they deem offensive is not ok even if it's something stupid.

Titty Meat 11-01-2019 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Frazod (Post 14566576)
I always thought the chop was kind of annoying, but I'll definitely partake in it now. I'm all for anything that makes the SJW ****s cry.

Ya I saw some libs crying about chikfila in FB so I went and got it for breakfast.

nychief 11-01-2019 08:54 AM

The chop is ****ing stupid, not for nothing. I mean have at... but it's just washed and lame.

Mecca 11-01-2019 08:56 AM

Everyone is offended by everything, society needs to correct, basically we had a period where everything was super offensive and no one cared so now we've over corrected to what we have today.

TribalElder 11-01-2019 09:00 AM

The star should just go out of business already or get the **** out of Kansas City

bitch ass paper constantly hating on their own city

mr. tegu 11-01-2019 09:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Couch-Potato (Post 14566634)
I'm not saying it isn't, but help me to understand how the Chop or other Native American themed decore is racist? I always thought that the Chiefs were providing a positive image of Native Americans, unlike the Redskins.


There’s a reason they didn’t actually say why it’s offensive and just mentioned a few feelings. These are same people that complain when a Mexican restaurant opens but isn’t run by Mexican people.

Bwana 11-01-2019 09:01 AM

Pfffffffffff LMAO It seems like it's the primary goal in a lot of people's world to be offended by something, this is a prime example.

big nasty kcnut 11-01-2019 09:02 AM

**** them.

Hammock Parties 11-01-2019 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by TribalElder (Post 14566652)
The star should just go out of business already or get the **** out of Kansas City

bitch ass paper constantly hating on their own city

they didn't get tyreek out

they won't get this out

old_geezer 11-01-2019 09:06 AM

I'm sensing a trend here. I propose that "The Lounge" be officially renamed the "**** the Star Lounge" for a day. LMAO LMAO LMAO

pugsnotdrugs19 11-01-2019 09:07 AM

Not a chance in hell lol

DJJasonp 11-01-2019 09:07 AM

Im only offended when the chop breaks out after holding a team to a FG.

Screw that noise....the chop should occur when a legit defensive play or stop occurs!

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Hammock Parties 11-01-2019 09:10 AM

this is such weak ass bullshit

they are just piggybacking off that national reporter starting this

get some original content you pieces of shit

redfan 11-01-2019 09:12 AM

So they're just gonna ignore the public's demand for journalistic integrity? I'm sure this'll work out well for them. HAHA

Red Dawg 11-01-2019 09:14 AM

Stupid idea. The Star hates the Chiefs these days.

Red Dawg 11-01-2019 09:15 AM

As if they can stop the fans from doing it.

arrwheader 11-01-2019 09:17 AM

The power to make this go anywhere lies within the populace not them. If the people ignore it and dismiss it it will die. If you share it, talk about it, click on it. They win. Someones career is advanced there and the next asshole in journalism sees that and thinks "oh what controversy can i stir this week to get ahead."

Stop spreading their bullshit.

Hammock Parties 11-01-2019 09:18 AM

https://jimmycsays.com/2019/10/23/th...ng-shell-game/

Between the third quarter of 2018 and the third quarter of 2019, Sunday print circulation plunged 23 percent — from 104,071 paid copies to 79,976.

Average Monday-to-Friday print circulation went from 66,520 to 54,000, a 19 percent decrease.

xbarretx 11-01-2019 09:18 AM

Alright, Sexual Chocolate is done with this....

https://i.makeagif.com/media/7-22-2015/eXWsQF.gif

Rain Man 11-01-2019 09:18 AM

The Star is pushing too many agendas. They need to pick one and go with it. Either get Chiefs fans to stop doing the chop or continue vilifying innocent men, but they can't accomplish both.

nychief 11-01-2019 09:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 14566686)
https://jimmycsays.com/2019/10/23/th...ng-shell-game/

Between the third quarter of 2018 and the third quarter of 2019, Sunday print circulation plunged 23 percent — from 104,071 paid copies to 79,976.

Average Monday-to-Friday print circulation went from 66,520 to 54,000, a 19 percent decrease.


You are really citing print circulation? jesus christ. Come on man.

Hammock Parties 11-01-2019 09:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 14566688)
The Star is pushing too many agendas. They need to pick one and go with it. Either get Chiefs fans to stop doing the chop or continue vilifying innocent men, but they can't accomplish both.

Pretty obvious they gave up their Tyreek crusade after Brooke Pryor left town.

Hammock Parties 11-01-2019 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by nychief (Post 14566691)
You are really citing print circulation? jesus christ. Come on man.

they have 10,000 digital subscribers

whooptie ****in' doo

SupDock 11-01-2019 09:21 AM

Chicken shits afraid to put their names on it

King_Chief_Fan 11-01-2019 09:21 AM

people actually read this rag


total garbage news punlication

The Franchise 11-01-2019 09:24 AM

Good luck with that.

SuperChief 11-01-2019 09:24 AM

It's funny reading all the "outrage culture" blasting while nearly everyone in here is outraged about this take by the Star. Truly hilarious.

For the record, I love the chop. And I'm Native.

ClevelandBronco 11-01-2019 09:30 AM

One day it will stop, and it'll stop because the Chiefs organization itself will someday determine it to be in their best interest to force it to stop. Chop away until then, brethren.

Hammock Parties 11-01-2019 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by ClevelandBronco (Post 14566711)
One day it will stop, and it'll stop because the Chiefs organization itself will someday determine it to be in their best interest to force it to stop. Chop away until then, brethren.

the chiefs didn't start the chop

they won't stop it

you can't stop people from doing a thing

Baby Lee 11-01-2019 09:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SuperChief (Post 14566702)
It's funny reading all the "outrage culture" blasting while nearly everyone in here is outraged about this take by the Star. Truly hilarious.

For the record, I love the chop. And I'm Native.

The irony you attempt to cultivate does not exist.

To the extent anyone can even colorably be characterized as 'outraged' [which is miniscule] by this reeruned attempt at journalisming, they aren't demanding The Star respond to their outrage with apology and change in behavior. They just ridicule it and disregard their enterprise.

underEJ 11-01-2019 09:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smithandrew051 (Post 14566587)
“The divisive chant”

How can it be divisive if the entire stadium is doing? Sounds like it unified people to me.

Not everybody does it. I go to 3 or 4 games a year and see alot of people who don't participate. Offensive or not, there are clearly alot of fans who think it is stupid and won't do it. It looks dumb, sounds dumb, isn't original, isn't a tradition from very long. You all look like idiots.

sedated 11-01-2019 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Red Dawg (Post 14566679)
Stupid idea. The Star hates the Chiefs these days.

the star hates everything these days.

They seem to want to sell papers by attacking KC institutions.

Next up, the Plaza gentrified the area just west of The Paseo, and must be torn down.

KC's BBQ tradition is cultural appropriation, and white people enjoying it is offensive.

Baby Lee 11-01-2019 09:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by underEJ (Post 14566720)
Not everybody does it. I go to 3 or 4 games a year and see alot of people who don't participate. Offensive or not, there are clearly alot of fans who think it is stupid and won't do it. It looks dumb, sounds dumb, isn't original, isn't a tradition from very long. You all look like idiots.

How on earth will we survive your scorn? . . .

rabblerouser 11-01-2019 09:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BDj23 (Post 14566573)
- By the Kansas City Star editorial board

Cowards too afraid to put a name on their sjw hit piece?

PTSD

underEJ 11-01-2019 09:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Baby Lee (Post 14566727)
How on earth will we survive your scorn? . . .

Not scorn, pity.

Baby Lee 11-01-2019 09:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by underEJ (Post 14566737)
Not scorn, pity.

Access denied, above your pay grade.

DJJasonp 11-01-2019 09:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sedated (Post 14566724)
the star hates everything these days.



They seem to want to sell papers by attacking KC institutions.



Next up, the Plaza gentrified the area just west of The Paseo, and must be torn down.



KC's BBQ tradition is cultural appropriation, and white people enjoying it is offensive.

In this digital media age, much of "journalism" amounts to contrarian takes, with the simple agenda of drumming up discussion or "click bait".

Yahoo/nbc sports is just about 95% this.

Just about every sports talk show on espn during the day is this approach.....either at one end of the argument spectrum, or the other.

Journalism is dead....everything is Op-Ed.

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carcosa 11-01-2019 09:48 AM

I think the chop is pretty dumb and insensitive but getting worked up about it one way or the other seems like a waste of time and energy

RN47 11-01-2019 09:48 AM

Maybe we should just do the wave? Does that offend anyone? Is it insensitive to aquatic creatures, since a 'wave' is part of their natural environment, and not something to trivialize at a sporting contest?

I mean, I don't want to look like an idiot or anything (according to underEJ) so I guess I will simply don an ascot, knee length black leather boots, breeches, a hounds tooth jacket and my monocle like those cultured folk in Los Angeles and simply say "Pip-pip! Cheerio lads! Well done!" whilst observing grown men play a child's game.



ETA: God dammit I am so sorry for being white.

gblowfish 11-01-2019 09:49 AM

I don't do the chop personally. But I don't care if others want to. I don't think it has any intent to mock or disparage Native Americans.

rabblerouser 11-01-2019 09:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gblowfish (Post 14566749)
I don't do the chop personally. But I don't care if others want to. I don't think it has any intent to mock or disparage Native Americans.

I'm a Native American and I don't think it does, either.

**** the KC Star.

Baby Lee 11-01-2019 09:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gblowfish (Post 14566749)
I don't do the chop personally. But I don't care if others want to. I don't think it has any intent to mock or disparage Native Americans.

Quote:

Originally Posted by rabblerouser (Post 14566753)
I'm a Native American and I don't think it does, either.

**** the KC Star.

You white males have no authority to police the offense taken by others.

rabblerouser 11-01-2019 09:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by carcosa (Post 14566746)
I think the chop is pretty dumb and insensitive

https://pics.me.me/thumb_yeah-well-t...m-15166091.png

ClevelandBronco 11-01-2019 09:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 14566714)
the chiefs didn't start the chop

they won't stop it

you can't stop people from doing a thing

They can't stop a behavior in their own stadium? Of course they can. Don't be silly.

DrRyan 11-01-2019 09:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 14566549)

“The chop itself is the most disgusting thing you can do in sports,” said Amanda Blackhorse of Arizona to Rally Against Native Mascots, a national group opposed to the use of Native American images in sports.

Definitely not hyperbole in the slightest... :)

Hammock Parties 11-01-2019 09:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ClevelandBronco (Post 14566758)
They can't stop a behavior in their own stadium? Of course they can. Don't be silly.

they can't

if they ask us to stop we'll do it harder and louder

and they aren't going around to 60,000 seats getting people to put their arms down

rabblerouser 11-01-2019 09:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Baby Lee (Post 14566755)
You white males have no authority to police the offense taken by others.

Right. But I'm 50% Blackfoot Indian...and I still have no authority to police anyone's offense.

ClevelandBronco 11-01-2019 09:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 14566761)
they can't

if they ask us to stop we'll do it harder and louder

and they aren't going around to 60,000 seats getting people to put their arms down

Silly.

JohnnyHammersticks 11-01-2019 09:59 AM

If the Star Editorial Board has their way, by 2025 Patrick Mahomes will be leading the Kansas City SJ Warriors to their 5th straight Super Bowl title.


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