Why is Marrone going with N.Foles as his QB instead of G.Minshew??
 

Gardner Minshews 2019 stats :

Year 1 : Rookie
Yards : 2,285
Percentage : 61.2
Touchdowns : 13
Interceptions : 4
Rating : 92.8 (NFL.COM)

Fumbles (11) YIKES!

1 game of 100+ Yards
6 games of 200+ yards
2 games of 300+ yards



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I don't get it. I don't watch the Jaguars often, but how can you bench a rookie who is performing this well, and is only 2 games back from your division leader?

In my opinion these types of changes are what get a head coach fired.

Those aren't great stats...

Because they paid Foles a lot of money and Minshew is coming off his worst game of the season.

They have nothing to play for, so they might as well see what they have in Foles to help them make their decision in the offseason.

Deshaun watson's rookie year,

(2 less games)
Percentage 61.8
Yards 1,699
Touchdowns 19
Interceptions 8
Rating 103

Watson had the better rookie year for sure, but many would argue he has/had a better supporting cast, and to be honest, looking at stats alone, (not film) you couldn't exactly point out who would/will have a better career IMO.

Because Foles has earned the right

Because rockstar Minshew still has some dues to pay

SB MVP

Can say the same thing about Minshew.

I don’t think it really matters either way.

Maybe Minshew is showing some mental fatigue. Jags may think he would be well-served by sitting back and absorbing everything he's learned this year. Minshew will probably be much better after a break.

Minshew magic wore off and they want to see what Foles can do.

I guess I don't understand what your point is. Above average rookies on a small sample size are inherently better than a proven vet for some reason?

Tell me about your feelings about benching Mahomes for Matt Moore...

Because Big Dick Nick is going to help us by taking down the Colts this weekend!

Read that somewhere.

Minshew was awful this week. 2 INTs and 2 fumbles. Looked bad when he wasnt turning the ball over.
Id go with Foles if i were them. He is a legit NFL QB. Minshew may be someday but his time is up for now.

I understand that, but they’ve been watching Minshew for 9 weeks. They saw Foles for what a quarter?

Minshew blew his opportunity to continue showing them with a bad performance against a weak Texans secondary. Now it’s Foles turn.

By the end of the season they should have a good idea what they have in both QB’s and go from there.

you posted 11 reasons in the OP

They have a lot of $$ invested in Foles.

At 4 and 5, mathematically they still have a chance to make the post-season.

Foles historically has been clutch in these kinds of moments.

You do know Nick Foles is a Super Bowl champ, holds the NFL Pass TD record in a game and had the third best season of a QB ever right?

I don’t think his rookie stats are bad at all. Then again i don’t watch jax football so maybe it’s a garbage time scenario?

However u said the stats aren’t that great so I brought up deshaun Watson’s stats from his rookie year to show how somewhat similar they are in some ways.

Watson was not a proven veteran his rookie year just like this guy isn’t a proven veteran because he’s in his rookie year.

Let’s not make up jokes about Moore and Mahomes.

I can see that and get behind that to be honest. He looked great with philly.

Just curious what people here are thinking about it since I don’t know much about their team.

Remember when Mayfield looked good in a small sample size?

Minshew hasn't been that great the past few weeks. I like the kid and if I'm a jags fan, I like the potential. But it's not a bad idea for him to learn more on the bench especially when you have foles who seems to get better as the season gets later.

Whatever needs to happen to get these fools fired I'm all for it.

I didn't realize he had 11 fumbles. That's nuts! Dave Kreig thinks he needs bigger hands.

Watch the film

Minshew has a noticeably below average arm and can barely perform within a structured offense. Have you noticed all his big plays come off scramble drills or underthrown balls to DJ Chark?

They've got 8 games of tape on Minshew. Now they can get 8 games of Foles on tape, which not only help them pick which QB for next year, but also rate the line and skill position supporting cast and whatnot.

Correct decision.

Doesn't matter, because either Marrone is gone in the offseason, or the whole front office and coaching staff is gone in the offseason.

Jeez

Either way, they need Foles to play.

If he plays well, they trade him for high picks.

If he doesn't, then they know they want to roll with Minshew and they trade him for mid level picks or release him.

Either way, Foles is a commodity in a QB starved league.

Minshew may or may not be the answer.

Mayfield's regression-well, the whole team is underperforming. Kitchens appears to have been a horrible hire, and that's on Dorsey.

His next coach pick better be a good one.

Well, they can't really release him as he's a massive cap hit. Other than that though I agree, they need to play Foles and see if he's there guy. Minshew's on a rookie contract, he's not going anywhere

Dave Kreig. Heh.

Maybe you can hire Minshew to be your pool boy?

Because a starter shouldn't lose his job due to injury.

On one side they invested $50 million (guaranteed) in a proven SB quarterback. On the other, a 6th round pick and $2.7 million.

This isn't really up for debate. At all.

Elvis Grbac should have..

*Clicks third choice....Because Gaz told him Foles was his boy.

Minchew Magic ran out. Just flat gone. Poof. Disappeared.

Still, Foles will get injured again soon so Minchew will get another bite of the pineapple.

FAX

Because he's sucked really bad lately and cost them a shot at the division

I have 2 words -- Tim Tebow.

Minshew is a much better QB than Tebow - he’s a well above average backup. He just isn’t a long term starter, though.

The only answer is because Foles has a huge contract and was signed to be the starter. You can bring Foles back, let him steady the ship, and Mishew can learn behind him. It's going to be great for the rookie to have come in, have won four games, but also have seen adversity and realize it's more complicated than just slinging it.

This is the right decision.

Because they paid Foles alot of money to be their QB and he got knocked out in the first game so they don't know what they have yet. Also they were keeping toe to toe with us until Foles got knocked out so if Foles gives them that ability to play with the best then they're going to use it. It makes sense.

{checks to see if DeBerg thread}

I mean really? This one seems pretty obvious. Gardner Minshew, if he's lucky, will be Alex Smith someday. You're not burying Pat Mahomes or Russell Wilson here. He's gonna be a solid but unspectacular game manager. When people were saying "wait until the league gets tape on Mahomes" it's because we live in a world where Gardner Minshews exist.

And when that's his apex and you can't release Foles next season either, you absolutely need to either 1) pump Foles value for a trade (which would actually be viable) or 2) Get him as many snaps in this system as possible so you can regroup around him next season to truly decide what you want to do with him from there.

Sticking with Minshew would be completely asinine. This isn't a guy with All-Pro potential - he's a walking meme who had a few good days and has also shown some truly awful tendencies that will be picked apart the more he is exposed. You don't bury a guy you're paying $45 million over 24 months for that.

Oh ok yeah I’m reeruned and so is my op then lmao. I had no idea Foles was being given that amount of $$ for 2 years and I also didn’t realize he was not playing because he was hurt.

My fault for not doing the research I suppose but that’s what I have this place for!

Agreed. But the sad part he is better than anything we've had since Brunell and that's sad.

Foles is actually worth something to them in the short term and could possibly turn it around for them so the season isn't a total waste. He's a pro, had some decent coaching and they paid him. He needs to earn his salary. If the "Shoe" had 4-5 more touchdowns at this point in the season it's an entirely different story.

Props to you for owing it and moving on. That being said....


How the hell did you not know Foles was hurt? It happened against the Chiefs

Oh and to answer the question anyway, one is a recent SB MVP and one lead his team to a record of....wait for it.....4-4. You could even say 4-5 if you wanted to count the Chiefs loss. I like the Minshew story as much as the next guy and he may develop in the future. Right now, he’s Jeremy Lin.

Because he needs to shave that stupid mustache.

Maybe they just didn't want to pay the money for a bench extension to house Foles cock