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Deberg_1990 11-28-2019 06:55 PM

Josh Allen or Patrick Mahomes?
 
We are starting to see some people saying Josh Allen is/will be better than Patrick Mahomes. I think it’s ridiculous, but there are people that feel that way. I was wondering if anyone here would choose Josh over Mahomes. So the choice is simple: who would you rather have as QB for the next 12 years? Allen Or Mahomes?

rabblerouser 11-28-2019 06:55 PM

Seriously?

thegame214 11-28-2019 06:57 PM

DELETE THIS

HayWire 11-28-2019 06:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rabblerouser (Post 14623129)
Seriously?

Parody thread......I hope

RunKC 11-28-2019 07:00 PM

Way past time to take thread starting privileges away..

Imon Yourside 11-28-2019 07:01 PM

I would take Josh Allen over any Deberg thread but that's about it.

staylor26 11-28-2019 07:01 PM

Deberg or Hitler? Who’s worse?

Coochie liquor 11-28-2019 07:05 PM

Deberg makes you crave Ubeja having his privs back.

Tribal Warfare 11-28-2019 07:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 14623140)
Way past time to take thread string privileges away..

Deberg is infringing the douchebag rule

FloridaMan88 11-28-2019 07:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 14623127)
We are starting to see some people saying Josh Allen is/will be better than Patrick Mahomes.

You and your fat relatives don’t count as “some people”.

George Liquor 11-28-2019 07:21 PM

Delete thread ban user

Jewish Rabbi 11-28-2019 07:30 PM

Send this clown to Ubeja.

Stinger 11-28-2019 07:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 14623144)
Deberg or Hitler? Who’s worse?

Deberg. Hitler knew when to off himself.

Tribal Warfare 11-28-2019 07:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BDj23 (Post 14623170)
Delete thread ban user

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jewish Rabbi (Post 14623187)
Send this clown to Ubeja.


The mods are pretty unclear what should be reported concerning the douchebag rule, because I got a warning when I reported it.

Now ,I'm relegated to hardlined infraction reporting

TwistedChief 11-28-2019 07:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 14623158)
Deberg is infringing the douchebag rule

I second this sentiment. This is a guy who just posted in the Mahomes vs Jackson thread:

"Originally Posted by Deberg_1990
Why can’t we just accept that they are both great in their own way?

Why do we need a pissing contest?"

And then he starts this?

The douchebag quotient is off the charts. End his thread-starting privileges.

Prison Bitch 11-28-2019 07:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 14623127)
We are starting to see some people saying Josh Allen is/will be better than Patrick Mahomes. I think it’s ridiculous, but there are people that feel that way. ?

No we aren’t. Post your evidence or delete thread.

TLO 11-28-2019 07:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 14623194)

Now ,I'm relegated to hardlined infraction reporting

What does this mean?

Reerun_KC 11-28-2019 07:46 PM

Deberg. Cause MENstral cramps on CP since 2004

Tribal Warfare 11-28-2019 07:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TLO (Post 14623203)
What does this mean?


It means reporting filter evasions, or physical threats and that's it

thegame214 11-28-2019 07:49 PM

Anytime you see "we are starting to hear people" is 100% means it's a personal thought, out of nowhere, and add "people" to imply it's actually something would support, which means I think you need help

chinaski 11-28-2019 07:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 14623144)
Deberg or Hitler? Who’s worse?

Would you rather spend an evening with Deberg, or spend an evening at Rock Star Burgers?

rabblerouser 11-28-2019 07:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chinaski (Post 14623211)
Would you rather spend an evening with Deberg, or spend an evening at Rock Star Burgers?

Rock Star Burgers.

As long as UChieffyBurger isn't there.

chinaski 11-28-2019 07:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thegame214 (Post 14623207)
Anytime you see "we are starting to hear people" is 100% means it's a personal thought, out of nowhere, and add "people" to imply it's actually something would support, which means I think you need help

I’ve never heard anybody compare Allen to Mahomes. Allen’s ceiling is Alex Smith

Otter 11-28-2019 07:58 PM

I used to wonder why you took so much shit for your threads.

No longer.

RealSNR 11-28-2019 08:02 PM

We are starting to see some people saying that Deberg ****s goats.

They are 100% correct.

Bump 11-28-2019 08:05 PM

every promising young QB is going to get "can he be better than Mahomes?" from now on.

Because there's never been a QB that can do what Mahomes does.

Reerun_KC 11-28-2019 08:08 PM

Deberg threads. Dripping with tears.

chiefzilla1501 11-28-2019 08:51 PM

He's stronger armed Alex Smith.

Nope. We good.

ChiefBlueCFC 11-28-2019 08:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bump (Post 14623225)
every promising young QB is going to get "can he be better than Mahomes?" from now on.



Because there's never been a QB that can do what Mahomes does.



Don’t tell that to Marcelius Wiley who think a Lamar Jackson can do everything Mahomes can... which Lamar absolutely cannot do what Mahomes does


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srvy 11-28-2019 08:59 PM

He eats up the attention good or bad doesn't matter. Thats how I see it anyway attention whore place is full of them.

eDave 11-28-2019 09:02 PM

Mahomes. Dumbass.

big nasty kcnut 11-28-2019 09:03 PM

Mahomes aka football superman!

loochy 11-28-2019 09:06 PM

Allen is clearly superior in all facets of the game.

CasselGotPeedOn 11-28-2019 09:06 PM

Deberg is trolling the hell out of some of you guys by getting you to seriously respond. LMAO

Willie Lanier 11-28-2019 09:08 PM

Reading Deberg's idiotic attempts at starting a nonexistent controversy...

Or

Getting waterboarded with toilet water?

eDave 11-28-2019 09:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CasselGotPeedOn (Post 14623261)
Deberg is trolling the hell out of some of you guys by getting you to seriously respond. LMAO

duh

Tribal Warfare 11-28-2019 09:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CasselGotPeedOn (Post 14623261)
Deberg is trolling the hell out of some of you guys by getting you to seriously respond. LMAO

Ala douchebag schtick trolling, we get enough of that from opposing fans

PunkinDrublic 11-28-2019 10:01 PM

Deberg is one of those people you run into at a party that you immediately regret starting a conversation with.

Imon Yourside 11-28-2019 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by PunkinDrublic (Post 14623317)
Deberg is one of those people you run into at a party that you immediately regret starting a conversation with.

Contrarians are so fun to chat with.

RealSNR 11-28-2019 10:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CasselGotPeedOn (Post 14623261)
Deberg is trolling the hell out of some of you guys by getting you to seriously respond. LMAO

Doesn't trolling require repeated follow-ups so that you can further induce anger? Like, if I post something reeruned to get a reaction out of people, everybody calls me stupid, but if I never come back and build on what I started, I don't actually get any trolling done. Nobody actually raged.

Seems to me like this thread is nothing more than people stopping by to call Deberg a ****ing idiot.

If he's trolling, he's doing a pretty piss poor job of it.

Naptown Chief 11-28-2019 11:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Otter (Post 14623217)
I used to wonder why you took so much shit for your threads.

No longer.

I came to post exactly this...

Why Not? 11-28-2019 11:12 PM

Either. As in, I would rather blow either of them than read another Deberg thread.

lcarus 11-28-2019 11:13 PM

The real question should be Josh Allen/Lamar Jackson or Damien Williams/LeSean McCoy

Miles 11-28-2019 11:28 PM

Deberg just hates having Mahomes at this point.

mnchiefsguy 11-29-2019 12:15 AM

Why is Deberg allowed to start threads?

Skyy God 11-29-2019 06:41 AM

Deberg or getting hit by a truck?

chiefzilla1501 11-29-2019 07:52 AM

I'm not convinced Allen can make all the throws. Don't get me wrong, the guy can fire the ball and throw off platform. But he seems to zing every single ball he throws. Mahomes may throw the ball hard but he also throws a lot of balls with touch. I don't know that Allen can do that. He takes what he's given. What will he do when he's gotta put up points in a hurry? For lamar, he just can't throw the ball. For Josh allen, I think you could easily force mistakes under pressure.

Deberg_1990 11-29-2019 07:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 14623515)
I'm not convinced Allen can make all the throws. Don't get me wrong, the guy can fire the ball and throw off platform. But he seems to zing every single ball he throws. Mahomes may throw the ball hard but he also throws a lot of balls with touch. I don't know that Allen can do that. He takes what he's given. What will he do when he's gotta put up points in a hurry? For lamar, he just can't throw the ball. For Josh allen, I think you could easily force mistakes under pressure.

He’s still learning , but his upside is tremendous.

I like that there’s a lot of good young QB talent for Mahomes to compete against in the AFC right now.

stevieray 11-29-2019 08:16 AM

:rolleyes:

do you talk to your wife about how great other women are?

chiefzilla1501 11-29-2019 08:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 14623519)
He’s still learning , but his upside is tremendous.

I like that there’s a lot of good young QB talent for Mahomes to compete against in the AFC right now.

Yeah, I've said before that in a redraft, the browns should have taken allen. Then lamar. Then baker. In that draft.

I think he's being groomed as a game manager. Which might actually be good for his career because being thrown in an aerial offense like mahomes was might have turned him into a gunslinger.

Chris Meck 11-29-2019 08:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 14623515)
I'm not convinced Allen can make all the throws. Don't get me wrong, the guy can fire the ball and throw off platform. But he seems to zing every single ball he throws. Mahomes may throw the ball hard but he also throws a lot of balls with touch. I don't know that Allen can do that. He takes what he's given. What will he do when he's gotta put up points in a hurry? For lamar, he just can't throw the ball. For Josh allen, I think you could easily force mistakes under pressure.

Neither did Favre. Or Elway, for that matter.

But the game has changed, so who knows?

I think he's a tough kid, and he's playing well. If they coach him well and surround him with some more talent, I think they'll be in the mix every year.

DTVietnam 11-29-2019 08:29 AM

well Allen def runs the QB sneak better

Chris Meck 11-29-2019 08:35 AM

In the young guns comparison, I don't think there's any real question it's Mahomes and then everyone else.

Jackson is the 'soup of the day', but that style of play has never lasted long. He's a problem, and he's improving the other aspects of his game. Still, we've beat him twice in the last 12 months.

Watson is pretty damned good. Allen is coming on. Interesting that Goff, Wenske, and Mayfield have all taken steps backward.

At any rate, I'm glad to see the changing of the guard. I'm so sick of the Manning(s)/Brady/Raperburger era.

Bring on the new blood.

ChiTown 11-29-2019 09:07 AM

https://media.giphy.com/media/rfABW1T5s8WZO/giphy.gif

MahiMike 11-29-2019 09:10 AM

I thought Allen was the best QB in that draft. I think he still is.

stevieray 11-29-2019 09:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 14623537)
In the young guns comparison, I don't think there's any real question it's Mahomes and then everyone else.

Jackson is the 'soup of the day', but that style of play has never lasted long. He's a problem, and he's improving the other aspects of his game. Still, we've beat him twice in the last 12 months.

Watson is pretty damned good. Allen is coming on. Interesting that Goff, Wenske, and Mayfield have all taken steps backward.

At any rate, I'm glad to see the changing of the guard. I'm so sick of the Manning(s)/Brady/Raperburger era.

Bring on the new blood.

Amen....almost two decades of three QB's winning everything.

FloridaMan88 11-29-2019 09:57 AM

https://media.giphy.com/media/3McruK...7P8Q/giphy.gif

Rasputin 11-29-2019 10:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 14623144)
Deberg or Hitler? Who’s worse?

:hmmm:

lcarus 11-29-2019 10:11 AM

I think we underestimate just how much a little white guy WR means to a championship team. Cole Beasley is a poor mans Wes Welker. We had our shot with Cody Thompson and we blew it.

loochy 11-29-2019 10:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lcarus (Post 14623621)
I think we underestimate just how much a little white guy WR means to a championship team. Cole Beasley is a poor mans Wes Welker. We had our shot with Cody Thompson and we blew it.

Dieter is kinda white...

Skyy God 11-29-2019 10:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lcarus (Post 14623621)
I think we underestimate just how much a little white guy WR means to a championship team. Cole Beasley is a poor mans Wes Welker. We had our shot with Cody Thompson and we blew it.

Cody Thompson is nobody’s definition of little.

chiefzilla1501 11-29-2019 10:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 14623534)
Neither did Favre. Or Elway, for that matter.

But the game has changed, so who knows?

I think he's a tough kid, and he's playing well. If they coach him well and surround him with some more talent, I think they'll be in the mix every year.

I actually wonder if he can be groomed into a big ben. Seem to be a lot of similarities especially with how their career started as a game manager. Not as hard to tackle as big ben, but moves a little better.

lcarus 11-29-2019 10:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by loochy (Post 14623635)
Dieter is kinda white...

Not white enough damn it!

Halfcan 11-29-2019 10:51 AM

Allen is going to have a short career taking on all those tackles like a fullback. He is not too bright.

Bwana 11-29-2019 10:54 AM

Once again...

https://media1.tenor.com/images/8aa8...itemid=5139647

lcarus 11-29-2019 10:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cave Johnson (Post 14623637)
Cody Thompson is nobody’s definition of little.

I was using little to describe Beasley and my thoughts turned to Welker and then Thompson. White WRs lol. But who knows. Cody Thompson probably won't amount to anything especially now that he's on the Bungholes.

Skyy God 11-29-2019 11:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lcarus (Post 14623660)
I was using little to describe Beasley and my thoughts turned to Welker and then Thompson. White WRs lol. But who knows. Cody Thompson probably won't amount to anything especially now that he's on the Bungholes.

High motor. Scrappy. Lunch pail. Gritty. Clutch. High football IQ. Plays the game the right way. Good fundamentals.

RealSNR 11-29-2019 12:08 PM

Josh Allen reminds me of Matt Cassel. Can’t put my finger on it. They’re not even close to the same kind of QB. Allen sometimes runs around like Fran goddamn Tarkenton and has a Howitzer. Cassel’s arm was below average, and he wasn’t immobile, but he tended to not do much running at all.

I think it’s the inaccurate throws and this one magic year in which they beat a couple overrated teams and feast on a cupcake schedule to get into the playoffs. That’s why I’m getting Cassel flashbacks I think.

Easy 6 11-29-2019 12:13 PM

Wouldn’t trade Money for anyone, period

But were I a Bills fan I’d be feeling pretty damn good about my future right now... his progression from last year is unmistakeable

A linebacker sized guy with a legit cannon, who can not only scramble well but actually take off and get big chunk plays? That’s nothing to shit on, good for Buffalo they deserve it

Halfcan 11-29-2019 12:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 14623717)
Josh Allen reminds me of Matt Cassel. Can’t put my finger on it. They’re not even close to the same kind of QB. Allen sometimes runs around like Fran goddamn Tarkenton and has a Howitzer. Cassel’s arm was below average, and he wasn’t immobile, but he tended to not do much running at all.

I think it’s the inaccurate throws and this one magic year in which they beat a couple overrated teams and feast on a cupcake schedule to get into the playoffs. That’s why I’m getting Cassel flashbacks I think.

Yep, I was getting that vibe too. I think it is from his flamming, homoerotic, over the top TD celebrations.

Allen jumped in the air like a ballerina and the O line lifted him up over his head like they were reenacting Beauty and the Beast. :spock:

That is Cashole territory right there.

KChiefs1 11-29-2019 12:39 PM

Allen better than I thought he’d be but he’s kind of a combo of Cassel/Grbac.

rabblerouser 11-29-2019 01:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cave Johnson (Post 14623493)
Deberg or getting hit by a truck?

That I have to think about it says it all...

loochy 11-29-2019 01:37 PM

Well since Matt freaking Moore is better than Mahomes, Josh Allen certainly is.

CasselGotPeedOn 11-29-2019 02:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Easy 6 (Post 14623722)
Wouldn’t trade Money for anyone, period

But were I a Bills fan I’d be feeling pretty damn good about my future right now... his progression from last year is unmistakeable

A linebacker sized guy with a legit cannon, who can not only scramble well but actually take off and get big chunk plays? That’s nothing to shit on, good for Buffalo they deserve it

Who calls Mahomes "Money"?

Bl00dyBizkitz 11-29-2019 02:03 PM

You ever just wake up to a Deburg thread?

Easy 6 11-29-2019 02:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CasselGotPeedOn (Post 14623831)
Who calls Mahomes "Money"?

Me, that’s who... fits him perfectly IMO

Chris Meck 11-29-2019 07:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 14623717)
Josh Allen reminds me of Matt Cassel. Can’t put my finger on it. They’re not even close to the same kind of QB. Allen sometimes runs around like Fran goddamn Tarkenton and has a Howitzer. Cassel’s arm was below average, and he wasn’t immobile, but he tended to not do much running at all.

I think it’s the inaccurate throws and this one magic year in which they beat a couple overrated teams and feast on a cupcake schedule to get into the playoffs. That’s why I’m getting Cassel flashbacks I think.

his eyes are too close together?

Three7s 11-29-2019 11:57 PM

I've read a lot of dumb threads, but this one is almost so dumb I don't know what to post. It's Cassel not being able to put on a hat level of bad.

alanm 11-29-2019 11:59 PM

Really?

DaNewGuy 11-30-2019 02:13 AM

DeBerg you need to be guillotined


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