What’s it take to repeat as Super Bowl champs?
 

It’s happened eight times in the Super Bowl era:

1.) Green Bay - Super Bowl I and II.
2.) Miami - Super Bowl VII and VIII.
3.) Pittsburgh - Super Bowl IX and X.
4.) Pittsburgh- Super Bowl XIII and XIV.
5.) San Francisco - Super Bowl XXIII and XXIV.
6.) Dallas - Super Bowl XXVII and XXVIII.
7.) Denver - Super Bowl XXXII and XXXIII.
8.) New England - Super Bowl XXXVIII and XXXIX.

What are the circumstances that contribute to a team repeating? Are we positioned to do so?

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Bring back Jones. Maybe sign an affordable replacement for Watkins. Get stronger at CB, LB, and RB if you can.

Threepeat

Avoiding injuries to key players
Another strong draft class
Keeping the core talent together
Continuity on the coaching staff
Continuity on the offensive line

The 1st 6 of those are pre-salary cap I think. It should maybe be divided into pre- and post salary cap eras.

It's much harder post cap

According to Rich Eisen, he said Jones told the Chiefs he might take a hometown discount to stay!!

https://youtu.be/4t2GLl2ZD4Y

Good point.

Health is the #1 factor. Good drafting and contract moves in the offseason are important too.

he was in veach's ear on the podium LMAO

Keeping Pat upright. Everything else is a distant 2nd. As long as he's in the game with 2 good arms and legs, we will always be in every game, no matter the opponent, no matter the stadium, no matter the circumstances.

I think they are going to have to let some complacent guys go and bring in some talent that are hungry for a Ring.

That Chris Jones contract scares the shit out of me.

Jones needs to be a Chief for life!

A lot of things that I think will happen.

They all say that

Jones literally seems like he would take a discount. He bleeds Kansas City. If he’s willing to do 15 mil a year I’d get that deal done today!

15 mil a year and I'll jump out my 2nd floor window naked singing yankee doodle

If you're the Patriots it takes a video camera and many secret recordings

lol, no

Please have someone record this.

Thanks

There are going to be some tough roster decisions that have to be made.

Simple answer? Patrick Mahomes.

Realistic answer: a little luck and a mostly healthy team.


The Chiefs are obviously one of the few teams in the NFL now that have the ability to actually win a Bowl.

I remember my Royals homer buddy telling me how this is a baseball town and he was so excited when Salvy and Alex Gordon were the face of Kansas City. While I don't diminish them, they are KC legends....but this is Patrick Mahomes city.

Chris Jones will want AT LEAST frank clark money.

That's $20 mil. per.

And that's a starting point . . . . .

I think we aren't giving Lamar Jackson enough credit. What he and the Ravens did in the regular season was nothing short of amazing. I never thought they would get that good.

He's gone if that is what he legit expects to be paid.

They say that the definition of insanity is to keep doing the same thing over and over expecting different results.

Eric Berry, Justin Houston, Tamba Hali, Ron Parker, Alex Smith and (back a ways), Dan Williams, all signed big contract extensions for that time.

It's a crap shoot for sure and glad I don't have to make that decision.

He played his ass off, no question about it.

They’re probably my still our main competition. But the blueprint is out on how to beat them. Now I’m sure there are many teams who don’t have the defensive players to follow the blueprint.

We just need to get better and faster at LB. That's gotta be our #1 priority on defense.

Do you mean aside from having like no CB's?

Get back to me when he starts completing 12 yard passes on 3rd & 10.

I'm not writing him off but he's proven zilch. To date his game is more like RGIII early on than not. His running game buys him time to develop so we'll see.

Houston could be a problem except that they've doubled down on their reeruned HC.
Pats are in decline. They'll be good I would imagine but it's hard to imagine them being good enough due to Brady's age.
Ben have something left? Steelers generally draft well.
Denver maybe? Lock looks promising.
Maybe Buffalo IDK. Allen is better than I thought he'd be.

*****

That's a boatload of if's all over the conference. The Chiefs have to be the prohibitive favorite. There's a much better chance the NFC produces a team capable of beating us. Injuries & complacency is the Chiefs biggest concern. They'll figure something out with Jones, tweak the interior OL, & figure something out in terms of a cheap replacement for Watkins. The draft is loaded at WR. Maybe improve LB/CB if possible.

They're very good. But if it's nut-cutting time in the playoffs, I'll take Patrick against Lamar any day of the week.

so yeah, I looked it up and basically having no salary cap until 1994, #1 through #6 can be accounted for in large part by just assemblign the best team money can buy. I remember the SF and Dallas teams specifically and thinking how unfair it was they got to just buy superbowls...keep their good players and pick from whatever superstars they wanted. The debartolos dumped wads of cash into those rings.

I was a little to young to remember the pittsburgh dynasty but with that much success I'm guessing they outspent their competition too.
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So really what we are talking about here is #7 & 8 - Denver and New england.....In my Mind, Denver's back-to-back appearances can be credited mainly to one guy: Terrell davis. He tore shit up...and was their key guy...broke 2000 yards the year of XXIII ...etc...jesus what a 6th round pick...LOL..terrel was a really special player for those years...I actually thought even then the days of a 2000 yard rusher might be gone...i hate the broncos but it was hard not to admire that guy..and shanahan was the brains of the operation.. I know denver had to go there a few times to get that 1st W..so experience matters a lot...

And of course NE had brady/belicheck... (jesus what a draft pick in brady)..not going into how special brady is, but he is the current GOAT until mahomes de-thrones him. Like patrick mahomes, he took his team to the AFC championships his 1st season as a starter..(but lost that game) ..... .gaining valuable experience....

So to answer your question: What does it take these days (post salary cap) to go to back-to-back super bowls?


- A special totally god-like player (check)
- Getting an absolute home run on a draft pick (check)
- Having a great coach (check)
- Playoff experience helps a lot with getting that 1st SB w (check)


We have everything...in my mind...we have absolutely everything we need...to do this multiple times...

We just can't **** up when it comes to large contracts.
Like New England, we need to know when to let dudes walk... even if they are good. *Cough Chris Jones*

Lamar or Watson are going to have to take huge leaps for us to not be in the SB again.

Either that or NE loading up on talent.

Petro said Jones is gone and will get close to Donlad money

Most likely, and the Chiefs can't afford that.

absolutely...Would be an extremely difficult job planning and plotting that one...and probably a big element of luck as to who is avaialble as a FA , and who can he had in later rounds drafting...



could probably add those things in on the list: salary cap management, drafting in the lower rounds, and a bit of luck LOL

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**** Lamar Jackson.

That scatterarmed mushmouth couldn't hit the broad side of a barn, much less a ten yard pass to a WR on 3rd and 8...

MVP or not, he sucks. Mahomes is the true MVP, and he proved it.

All day, every day.

Arizona or Cleveland are absolutely desperate, they'll overpay. Can't be mad at Stone Cold.

We’re not going to let jones walk. We’ll at least franchise tag him for a year

Well, that completely contradicts what Jones has been saying all week.

Petro talking out his ass as usual.

Going to be hard to do, that'd be a third straight AFC championship game. The path to doing it looks easier than in the NFC though. And you do have the best player in football.

Seeing the amazing chemistry this team has from the very top with Clark all the way down to the benchwarmers, makes it hard to believe they won't win again next year.

This team is a Band of Brothers. They will be very hard to beat as long as Mahomes and Andy are here.

Free Agents should be lining up to get on this bandwagon.

We aren’t losing anybody. No coaches or real players (we can franchise Jones).

We also don’t have old players. All of our best are young.

Thank you for posting on chiefsplanet.com! You seem very nice!

Well, they will have to get back to the playoffs then go undefeated in January and February.

You're welcome. I'd like to thank all of you for being so nice and welcoming to me!

I agree. I'd like to see some improvement on the line to tell you the truth.

Yeah my brother did say he want a recount on the mvp race. Patrick should be 2x mvp he won a couple of games on one good leg!

What I can do to help win a few more? Whatever it takes...

Mahomes is unequivocally a better player but the Ravens are set up to be good for the next 5 years. Jackson will continue to develop as a passer and we all know how he can run. Thats not an easy team to beat. Chiefs probably win 8 of 10 at Arrowhead but its going to be the Chiefs and Ravens for years I would imagine.

I dunno. I'm not convinced Lamar Jackson can replicate what he did last year let alone improve. We shall see. He's continued to exceed my expectations, but I'm still not sold.

Collision course with Baltimore for the AFC Title next year.

No one else is remotely scary. Maybe Pittsburgh if Ben is back healthy.

The Ravens only good pass rusher is Matt Judon and rumor is they are letting him walk.

We saw what happens when you don’t have a top caliber pass rush against this team.

The big injury is inevitable with him.

Won't be easy to beat them. But if we're in the 5 minute drill to end a game, I will take Patrick all day over Lamar. Patrick is doing stuff on 3rd and 4th down that no QB has ever done. Absurdly efficient in the most high pressure situations.

It literally took one of the worst defenses ever dragging down Mahomes for Brady & Belichick to squeak past Mahomes in overtime last year. He pushed them to their limit and that is the GOAT QB/GOAT Coach. Lamar still hasn't proven he can do anything in the playoffs. Two mega chokes by him.

Jewdong?

Bring him in for a look?

I am just going to sit back and watch Veach and Reid do the shopping, and say "Wow, Cool"

Roethlisberger will be 38 when the season starts. He ain't going to be his old self when he comes back from that injury. At least not right away. If he DOES make a full recovery, he's got maybe one year left before he REALLY starts to decline.

He's taken a ton of punishment over the years, unlike Brady, who was always surrounded in a protective ring of asshole-sucking refs.

You can build the greatest defense known to mankind, and Mahomes will still crack its code. And when that happens, you better have a real QB that can outscore him, or else you're dead meat.