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Buehler445 02-06-2020 10:09 AM

Annual Eat Crow Thread - 2019 Edition
 
This one will feel better because we're freaking SUPER BOWL CHAMPS (That never gets old)

But we all have some crow to eat.

I don't remember too many flaming hot takes I had but here goes:

Frank Clark - He did suck ass when I was saying it, but dude earned his money. Well done, sir.

Spagnoulo - I didn't go crazy flaming the guy, but I didn't really like the hire. Especially when we were soft bitches against the AFCS.

Mathieu - Again, I wasn't flaming the guy, but I've never thought this guy was the answer at anything. All the way back to college. Wrong-o Douche! This guy also earned that money. Couple that with the article about Reid and Spags turning over the leadership keys to him, my goodness. Dude earned that shit.

Reid - I've always appreciated Reid, specifically because we came from the Squimin Herman Mother****ing Sack of **** Edwards/Scott Franchise Killer Pioli eras. But I didn't think he could get it done. Too much loyalty. Too many management errors that will get you beat. Too much Because Chiefs. Load that plate up!

CB group in general - I thought these guys would get us beat. YUM

Other Football Crow

Lamar Jackson - I didn't think he'd be as effective as he was. I still think it's a losing proposition, but he deserves some credit I didn't give him.

Dorsey - Maybe it's not all his fault, but I figured he'd make something work there. Obviously there is some level of it's not me, it's you thing going.

Kliff Kingsbury - I know it's a long way from actually doing anything but I thought there was a fair chance he'd be justifiably fired by midseason. He may still end up being nothing, but he made it farther than I'd have guessed.

Drew Lock - At least looks competent out there. That's far different than I expected.

What do you guys have. I'm sure there is a lot of crow to eat. Load up boys!

Halfcan 02-06-2020 10:18 AM

Were you right about anything? That is a long list of Fail. LOL

The Franchise 02-06-2020 10:21 AM

I used to think that Eric Fisher wasn’t that great or important. Apparently I’m ****ing stupid.

Erving still ****ing sucks though.

Sassy Squatch 02-06-2020 10:22 AM

Veach. Most of his big acquisitions ended up being worth it.

The Franchise 02-06-2020 10:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 14781470)
Veach. Most of his big acquisitions ended up being worth it.

I know he was only a 6th round pick but holy shit I was wrong about Fenton.

jd1020 02-06-2020 10:28 AM

I underestimated the power of Mahomes and thought Reid would never win a SB. I still feel like this was more on Mahomes than it was Reid because Reid scripts the first however many plays and in each playoff game it put us in a hole that someone like Alex Smith would have never gotten out of. But congrats, Andy. No players ever say anything bad about him and he's one of the most liked guys in the game, so well deserved.

Buehler445 02-06-2020 10:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Halfcan (Post 14781459)
Were you right about anything? That is a long list of Fail. LOL

Uhhh. Yeah. Mahomes is awesome. Hill is fast. Kelce Embarrasses fools. Sutton needs a drool bucket. Donk Sucks. Chargers Choke. Faiders Faid. Cheatriots Cheat. Legit shot at a Super Bowl

Really though, I wasn't flaming much too hard, except when Clark was sucking taint. But he deserved it. Most of those other ones were just internally held positions. I try not to get too far out on shit that I don't know about.

There were some other things I was pretty right on. TIME OF POSSESSION for one, a bunch of stupid ****s have to eat a mountain of crow on that one. I wasn't out here clamoring for upgrades at RB like a bunch of mother****ers were. I wasn't second guessing Matt Moore.

I'm sure there are a bunch of little stuff that I don't remember, but I'm honest about what I post here.

Buehler445 02-06-2020 10:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 14781469)
I used to think that Eric Fisher wasn’t that great or important. Apparently I’m ****ing stupid.

Erving still ****ing sucks though.

Erving sucks, but I like the guy. Dude will straight fight fools if they mess with his guys and he's the biggest cheerleader on the team.

It sure is a shame he can't, you know, block.

Ming the Merciless 02-06-2020 10:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 14781469)
I used to think that Eric Fisher wasn’t that great or important. Apparently I’m ****ing stupid.

Erving still ****ing sucks though.


I'm right here with you on this one. I talked shit about the fisher pick and for several years it looked like fisher was almost a bust or at least not a 'hit.' I can't help but feel like still maybe we couldve done better with the 1.1 but I am OK with it (obviously) now...


so tl/dr:


I was not OK with the fisher pick for YEARS but now I am. So serve me up some crow.

Halfcan 02-06-2020 10:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 14781484)
Uhhh. Yeah. Mahomes is awesome. Hill is fast. Kelce Embarrasses fools. Sutton needs a drool bucket. Donk Sucks. Chargers Choke. Faiders Faid. Cheatriots Cheat. Legit shot at a Super Bowl

Really though, I wasn't flaming much too hard, except when Clark was sucking taint. But he deserved it. Most of those other ones were just internally held positions. I try not to get too far out on shit that I don't know about.

There were some other things I was pretty right on. TIME OF POSSESSION for one, a bunch of stupid ****s have to eat a mountain of crow on that one. I wasn't out here clamoring for upgrades at RB like a bunch of mother****ers were. I wasn't second guessing Matt Moore.

I'm sure there are a bunch of little stuff that I don't remember, but I'm honest about what I post here.

:clap:

The biggest fails were from guys caught up in emotion during the game day threads. Best to give yourself time to reflect before posting off emotion.

Jerm 02-06-2020 10:43 AM

Ate crow throughout the playoffs about Andy and will gladly continue to...

smithandrew051 02-06-2020 10:43 AM

For me:

Damien Williams-I liked him, but I thought he would be replaced by Darwin Thompson by the end of the year.

Linebackers-I was very pessimistic about this group. They were never great, but they became serviceable. Excited to see what House can do once we invest in the position.

Kendall Fuller-I was very low on him. He seemed to always be very close to making plays, but would still get beat. He transitioned to safety very well. Hope we can bring him back.

FloridaMan88 02-06-2020 10:45 AM

I had doubts about Andy, Veach, Spags, Frank Clark, Damien Williams, Tyreek being a legit #1 WR initially after Maclin was suddenly released a few years ago.

But I never doubted Mahomes.

Red Dawg 02-06-2020 10:57 AM

Williams has turned into a beast. I flamed him a lot as just a guy. He mi longer is.

pugsnotdrugs19 02-06-2020 11:00 AM

Didn’t vocally disclose a whole lot of doubts but I definitely had my fits about the defense in October. I wrote off guys like Khalen Saunders and KPass back then too (thanks Daly).

SUPER BOWL CHAMPS!

stevieray 02-06-2020 11:03 AM

Not me.

Molitoth 02-06-2020 11:05 AM

I've been on board with everything the team/Veach has done except for:

-Keeping Sutton 1 season too long. (I was right)
-Keeping Alex Smith 1 season too long. (Perhaps this worked out for the best)

Sorry, I don't have any crow to eat. =)

Now, I'm in the camp we need to Tag/Trade Chris Jones, so I'm prepared to eat that crow some day if he ends up staying and balls out.

SAUTO 02-06-2020 11:05 AM

i hated the landlord and watkins signings.


boy, was i ****ing wrong.

cwhocares 02-06-2020 11:09 AM

This is my "Eating Crow". Through game 8 I still held on to thought that Spags was a TERRIBLE hire. It just took time, for Clark to get healthy, the new signings to learn the scheme and the rookies to step up. Well done SPAGS.

Quote:

Originally Posted by cwhocares (Post 14070630)
:facepalm::facepalm::facepalm::facepalm:
Well here's to another 4 years of a crap defense. His record as a DC is terrible. The last 6 years he had only one very good year. As a head coach, he was worse.


smithandrew051 02-06-2020 11:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 14781563)
Didn’t vocally disclose a whole lot of doubts but I definitely had my fits about the defense in October. I wrote off guys like Khalen Saunders and KPass back then too (thanks Daly).

SUPER BOWL CHAMPS!

Makes you wonder if we’ll have similar opinions about Breeland Speaks this time next year

kcclone 02-06-2020 11:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 14781470)
Veach. Most of his big acquisitions ended up being worth it.


Yeah, I was pretty down on Veach right about the time it looked like our defense wasn't going to be much better and Mahomes was banged up.

Credit where credit is due: Veach is a stud and virtually every move he's made has worked out.

ChiliConCarnage 02-06-2020 11:14 AM

Watkins - I was livid about the contract and I still think it was a ridiculous signing tbh BUT the guy really showed up when it counted.

TimBone 02-06-2020 11:21 AM

Does it count when someone made a thread almost five years ago about how Andy Reid is a terrible head football coach, and then continued to argue like a babbling idiot about it since then with anyone who tried to talk sense to him?

And now that Reid has reached the promised land, that person wants the thread to disappear?

If so....

https://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=294718

SAUTO 02-06-2020 11:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TimBone (Post 14781625)
Does it count when someone made a thread almost five years ago about how Andy Reid is a terrible head football coach, and then continued to argue like a babbling idiot about it since then with anyone who tried to talk sense to him?

And now that Reid has reached the promised land, that person wants the thread to disappear?

If so....

https://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=294718

ROFL

rico 02-06-2020 11:27 AM

I thought Damien Williams would be replaced by Darwin or McCoy..

warpaint* 02-06-2020 11:38 AM

I didn't like the Frank Clark trade. Nothing against him personally, but I thought we already had pass rushers & would be better served to use our draft pick on a run stuffer or two & hire a DC who'd run a 3-4. Obviously those changes were brilliant & all worked.

I also thought Clark was a bust early but as it turns out that's b/c he was playing hurt.

I thought the season was over after the Titans loss. Not b/c the Chiefs weren't good but b/c at that point it just felt like one of those years where you're snakebit with injuries.

***

Other teams,
Lock is better than I thought.
Josh Allen is better than I thought.
Seems I always like the Chargers & they blow.

Titty Meat 02-06-2020 11:39 AM

I dont eat crow I eat ASS

stumppy 02-06-2020 11:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TimBone (Post 14781625)
Does it count when someone made a thread almost five years ago about how Andy Reid is a terrible head football coach, and then continued to argue like a babbling idiot about it since then with anyone who tried to talk sense to him?

And now that Reid has reached the promised land, that person wants the thread to disappear?

If so....

https://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=294718

ROFL

Megatron96 02-06-2020 01:20 PM

There are probably more than a few, but the main one for me was Damien Williams. Never thought he'd be a true RB1, in fact voiced the idea of cutting him at the end of the season even through week 17. Wasn't until his playoffs performances when he really proved himself to me. Just ordered his jersey after the Super Bowl; kind of my own way of eating crow about Damien.

VAGOMO 4 LIFE! 02-06-2020 01:23 PM

Fun fact. We didn’t lose a game this season in which Eric Fisher started

Pasta Little Brioni 02-06-2020 01:26 PM

Chiefs were 10-0 with the offense at full go..

Outscored teams 31-15 the last half of the season. Dominant champs.

Pitt Gorilla 02-06-2020 01:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smithandrew051 (Post 14781592)
Makes you wonder if we’ll have similar opinions about Breeland Speaks this time next year

I think we will. Our coaches work well with d line.

Kiimo 02-06-2020 01:30 PM

Mathieu - I was wrong about the guy. I thought he was too small to be a difference maker and I really, really wanted Landon Collins. Whoops.


I was wrong about Rashad Fenton, thought he would be the weak link of the draft.


I was wrong about Mecole Hardman and thought the Chiefs should have drafted Parris Campbell instead.


I also was dubious on Juan Thornhill but that's 100% Seth Keysor's fault.




Everything else I was a ****ing fortune teller

Buehler445 02-06-2020 01:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by warpaint* (Post 14781668)
I didn't like the Frank Clark trade. Nothing against him personally, but I thought we already had pass rushers & would be better served to use our draft pick on a run stuffer or two & hire a DC who'd run a 3-4. Obviously those changes were brilliant & all worked.

I also thought Clark was a bust early but as it turns out that's b/c he was playing hurt.

I thought the season was over after the Titans loss. Not b/c the Chiefs weren't good but b/c at that point it just felt like one of those years where you're snakebit with injuries.

***

Other teams,
Lock is better than I thought.
Josh Allen is better than I thought.
Seems I always like the Chargers & they blow.

I was all aboard the dump Houston and Goddamned Ford. I wanted no part of that again.

I was mad at Clark after he sucked ass.

Marcellus 02-06-2020 01:50 PM

I thought for sure Mahomes would throw for 4 or more TD's in the SB.

Reerun_KC 02-06-2020 01:52 PM

I’d like to apologize to Andy Reid.

He finished a season without major gaffes.

He delivered to KC what no one thought was possible ( and wasn’t until Mahomes )

Easy 6 02-06-2020 01:54 PM

I was really hard on Clark early, and Watkins midway through

Other than that I was pretty damn positive about how things were shaping up... and yeah didn’t expect much from Fenton but neither did anyone else, so that’s a wash

Figured Spags was an upgrade
Reid was a no brainer
Very pro Veach

Reerun_KC 02-06-2020 02:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TimBone (Post 14781625)
Does it count when someone made a thread almost five years ago about how Andy Reid is a terrible head football coach, and then continued to argue like a babbling idiot about it since then with anyone who tried to talk sense to him?

And now that Reid has reached the promised land, that person wants the thread to disappear?

If so....

https://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=294718

Almost as bad as this thread.

https://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=326437

Ming the Merciless 02-06-2020 02:06 PM

All the people who wanted Alex to play out his contract should be in here shortly...


But I bet they dont have the balls to admit it.,..

Demonpenz 02-06-2020 02:10 PM

I didn't think the chiefs would get over the hump. It took a Jordan like player to do so, but whatever.

TimBone 02-06-2020 02:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 14782046)

I don't know, man. Moore was looking good out there.

dlphg9 02-06-2020 02:49 PM

I hated Frank Clark and Damien Williams. Really really hated them, but to be fair I hated them because they absolutely sucked complete shit for long stretches of time. I have done a complete 180 on both and feel like im completely infatuated with both of them. I am 100% sure my infatuation with Frank will turn into complete loving bliss.

Damien Williams on the other hand could be a guy that I think needs replaced. I can never hate the guy and he has been given an extremely long leash. That leash gives him until the playoffs and if he is even close to repeating this year's playoffs the leash is then extended.

dlphg9 02-06-2020 02:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pawnmower (Post 14782059)
All the people who wanted Alex to play out his contract should be in here shortly...


But I bet they dont have the balls to admit it.,..

None of them will admit it. Theyll all act like they wanted Mahomes to start. Then they can bring up how without Smith Mahomes would have never been who he is.

VAGOMO 4 LIFE! 02-06-2020 02:52 PM

If Damien Williams is on the Chiefs for the next 4 or 5 years he could possibly break the all time career playoff touchdown record

TinyEvel 02-06-2020 02:54 PM

I would like to publicly apologize to Mr. Daniel Sorensen for starting the thread “Daniel Sorensen is Jon McGraw. Change my mind.”

Dude was clutch af in the road to the SB.

arrwheader 02-06-2020 03:08 PM

Mine would have to be:

1. I was doubting Veach and his last two offseasons. At the time the run d looked like it wasn't fixed, spags looked like Bob 2.0 and Frank and HB were not doing much to live up to the contracts. I think there was some more but i have forgotten. That's probably what a championship does to you, which is great. I was wrong on it all.


2. Andy Reid - after the The Titans loss I was wavering on him a little. I didn't completely want him gone or anything but I started to look at him less positive. Some of that was coupled with the run defense being shit and him keeping bob on the team for a year longer than her should. I was wrong there. I want Andy to stay here until he retires.

POND_OF_RED 02-06-2020 03:09 PM

The only post this idiot made all year was a preseason stat and I’m sure it’s the only thing keeping him alive right now! Come back to play bud, we’ve got some fresh meals for you in this thread.
Quote:

Originally Posted by Quesadilla Joe (Post 14407560)
Denver held Garopolo to a 0.0 QB Rating btw


arrwheader 02-06-2020 03:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pawnmower (Post 14782059)
All the people who wanted Alex to play out his contract should be in here shortly...


But I bet they dont have the balls to admit it.,..

That's one thing I was not on board with. I liked Alex, thought he was the best option at the time. As soon as he shit his pants int he Pit playoff game I was done with him. When they drafted Pat I wanted him to play in that Playoff game vs the Titans. I said it back then before he was a starter. If we would have played him that game it's a win and who knows how deep we would have gone.

I still think Reid should have pulled the plug on Smith during that game.

Buehler445 02-06-2020 03:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TinyEvel (Post 14782159)
I would like to publicly apologize to Mr. Daniel Sorensen for starting the thread “Daniel Sorensen is Jon McGraw. Change my mind.”

Dude was clutch af in the road to the SB.

Sorensen was one guy I was right on. I’ve consistently said he’s not a starter but there is a place for him on this and most defenses.

Buehler445 02-06-2020 03:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arrwheader (Post 14782215)
That's one thing I was not on board with. I liked Alex, thought he was the best option at the time. As soon as he shit his pants int he Pit playoff game I was done with him. When they drafted Pat I wanted him to play in that Playoff game vs the Titans. I said it back then before he was a starter. If we would have played him that game it's a win and who knows how deep we would have gone.

I still think Reid should have pulled the plug on Smith during that game.

Me too. I remember thinking what the **** do we have to lose here?


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