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Rain Man 02-18-2020 12:09 PM

Chiefs All-Decade Team - Punt Returner
 
With the end of the decade, it's time for us to select our all-decade team for the 2010s. Credit to Direckshun for the idea; I'm just implementing it.

Here are the rules:

1. I'll put up lists of position groups one at a time.

2. Each list will contain guys who had at least one notable stat line in their career. I'll generally put them in descending order of some key stat.

3. The stats will contain ONLY their body of work between 2010 and 2019 for the Chiefs. No pre-2010 stats and no stats for other teams.

4. The number of roster spots will be the same as the number of roster spots on the 2019 Super Bowl roster for the Chiefs.

5. You can use whatever criteria you want to select the team. It can be total stats for the decade, it can be dominance in a shorter period, it can be playmakers who didn't screw up badly, whatever. It's your call. Feel free to use any criteria not listed in your decision. For example, if you know that Terrance Copper was an amazing blocker, you can build that into your decision.

6. In a subsequent poll we will determine which players are the starters on the all-decade team. In the first round, you're just going to fill the 53-man roster.

Our next position group is punt returner. ONE punt returner will make the all-decade team. So pick ONE punt returner.

Rain Man 02-18-2020 12:11 PM

You can win a lot of bar bets by showing that Dexter McCluster had a higher career return average in the 2010s than Tyreek Hill.

Rain Man 02-18-2020 12:14 PM

Seriously, this McCluster/Tyreek thing is freaking me out. It's like finding out that everything I know about the world is untrue.

Rasputin 02-18-2020 12:14 PM

I almost want to vote for Dexter but the vote goes to Tyreek Hill

TLO 02-18-2020 12:18 PM

Hill/ thread

Rain Man 02-18-2020 12:18 PM

There's got to be an explanation for this, right? Maybe teams were kicking higher and shorter to get coverage on Tyreek, right? Or maybe a lot punts went out of bounds unless they had the ability to pin Tyreek back in a corner, right? There has to be an explanation. THERE HAS TO BE AN EXPLANATION!

comochiefsfan 02-18-2020 12:19 PM

I really missed watching Tyreek return punts last season.

No disrespect to Mecole, but Tyreek is one of the most dangerous return men in league history.

It reminded me a lot of Jeremy Maclin at Mizzou. Every time the opponent had to punt you were on the edge of your seat waiting for something amazing to happen. That's how it was those few years with Tyreek.

smithandrew051 02-18-2020 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 14801525)
There's got to be an explanation for this, right? Maybe teams were kicking higher and shorter to get coverage on Tyreek, right? Or maybe a lot punts went out of bounds unless they had the ability to pin Tyreek back in a corner, right? There has to be an explanation. THERE HAS TO BE AN EXPLANATION!

I think this is it. Teams were far more afraid of Tyreek right away. No punter in their right mind would try to boom it when they’re pinned deep.

How punters treated Tyreek as our returner was the equivalent of Barry Bonds and intentional walks.

TLO 02-18-2020 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 14801525)
There's got to be an explanation for this, right? Maybe teams were kicking higher and shorter to get coverage on Tyreek, right? Or maybe a lot punts went out of bounds unless they had the ability to pin Tyreek back in a corner, right? There has to be an explanation. THERE HAS TO BE AN EXPLANATION!

Teams kicked away from Tyreek a lot.

I don't remember McCluster having that much success either... All I think of is his stupid spin move that never worked and getting destroyed on screens and short passes.

Deberg_1990 02-18-2020 12:23 PM

Dex McCluster! That’s a name I haven’t heard in a long time!

rabblerouser 02-18-2020 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 14801543)
Dex McCluster! That’s a name I haven’t heard in a long time!

Ol' Mc****stick.

Deberg_1990 02-18-2020 12:26 PM

I remember Andy Reids got the best possible version of McCluster out of him in 2013. Because of course he did. Andy Reid always puts players in position to succeed.

ChiefBlueCFC 02-18-2020 12:28 PM

I think I'm gonna go Mecole here for the simple fact that I'm not sure he makes it as a wideout on my all-decade team but I want him on the team in some fashion...

siberian khatru 02-18-2020 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 14801543)
Dex McCluster! That’s a name I haven’t heard in a long time!

I saw a McCluster Chiefs jersey at the NFL Experience in Miami Beach.

Dartgod 02-18-2020 12:51 PM

Dexter because I don't want Tyreek doing anything but catching passes from the MVP.

redfan 02-18-2020 12:59 PM

Dangit, I didn't look at the years. Was gonna vote Dante Hall, but gotta go 'Reek.

tyecopeland 02-18-2020 01:13 PM

Dexter because his stats are good and reek will get in at wr. I'll take the variety in roster construction.

Rain Man 02-18-2020 01:31 PM

I'm curious. When Tyreek returned that free kick on Denver for a touchdown after a safety, does that count as a kickoff return or a punt return? Or neither?

DaFace 02-18-2020 01:43 PM

This kind of gets weird. If Tyreek wins this one, does that mean we get to have an extra WR to fill out the roster?

Rain Man 02-18-2020 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 14801727)
This kind of gets weird. If Tyreek wins this one, does that mean we get to have an extra WR to fill out the roster?

I think we'll have a roster exemption for kick and punt returners. I wasn't sure how to handle that.

loochy 02-18-2020 02:03 PM

Reek-a-leek!

Pasta Little Brioni 02-18-2020 02:28 PM

Dex was a damn good punt returner torpedoed by the disappointment he was on offense

DiaperBoy27 02-18-2020 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by TLO (Post 14801537)
I don't remember McCluster having that much success either...

He had a punt return TD in the opening of new Arrowhead in 2010.

That was one of the most lit games I've ever been to, probably because it was MNF with a 9pm kickoff, after a Royals game that afternoon. People must've been tailgating for 12 hours.

Deberg_1990 02-18-2020 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by DiaperBoy27 (Post 14801830)
He had a punt return TD in the opening of new Arrowhead in 2010.

That was one of the most lit games I've ever been to, probably because it was MNF with a 9pm kickoff, after a Royals game that afternoon. People must've been tailgating for 12 hours.

He had a couple of punt return TDs in 2013. Reids first year in KC. And decent receiving stats. 500+ yards

As mentioned, Reid knew how to use him. Then they knew not to overpay him and didn't re-sign him.

lcarus 02-18-2020 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by TLO (Post 14801537)
Teams kicked away from Tyreek a lot.

I don't remember McCluster having that much success either... All I think of is his stupid spin move that never worked and getting destroyed on screens and short passes.

Those things did happen a lot but he also made some big plays here and there as well.

ThaVirus 02-18-2020 05:13 PM

Teams are terrified of punting to Tyreek. That tells you everything you need to know.

Buehler445 02-18-2020 06:04 PM

Probably should have done Hardman. He returned really well in the playoffs. But it’s Hill.

**** all those bitches from Squirmin Herman Mother****ing Sack of **** Edwards and Scott Franchise Killer Pioli.

Megatron96 02-18-2020 06:17 PM

It's not close; Tyreek is the most dangerous PR the Chiefs have had in the 2010s. Maybe ever.

Buehler445 02-18-2020 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 14801525)
There's got to be an explanation for this, right? Maybe teams were kicking higher and shorter to get coverage on Tyreek, right? Or maybe a lot punts went out of bounds unless they had the ability to pin Tyreek back in a corner, right? There has to be an explanation. THERE HAS TO BE AN EXPLANATION!

Part of it is dudes were like NOPE and kicked it away from him. That counts as a 0 on the return, right?

He also ran backwards a lot. It wouldn’t take very many negative runs to wreck an average. It’s fine with me because he scored on a bunch of that.

TLO 02-18-2020 06:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DiaperBoy27 (Post 14801830)
He had a punt return TD in the opening of new Arrowhead in 2010.

That was one of the most lit games I've ever been to, probably because it was MNF with a 9pm kickoff, after a Royals game that afternoon. People must've been tailgating for 12 hours.

In the rain, if I recall correctly. I remember that play.

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Originally Posted by lcarus (Post 14802088)
Those things did happen a lot but he also made some big plays here and there as well.

You're probably right, but I had higher expectations for him as an offensive weapon I think. That's why I look back at him as a disappointment. The numbers don't lie - he was a good punt returner.

Unless he fumbled a bunch? I don't really remember if he did. I know Hill has had a few fumbles on punt returns.

Rain Man 02-18-2020 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 14802096)
Teams are terrified of punting to Tyreek. That tells you everything you need to know.

This is a good point. Stats occasionally lie, but our eyes don't.

tyecopeland 02-18-2020 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 14802191)
Part of it is dudes were like NOPE and kicked it away from him. That counts as a 0 on the return, right?

He also ran backwards a lot. It wouldn’t take very many negative runs to wreck an average. It’s fine with me because he scored on a bunch of that.

It only counts on his average if he fielded it without a fair catch. So any he let go or thay went out of bounds or that he fair caught aren't included in the average.

Buehler445 02-19-2020 01:23 AM

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Originally Posted by tyecopeland (Post 14802366)
It only counts on his average if he fielded it without a fair catch. So any he let go or thay went out of bounds or that he fair caught aren't included in the average.

Yeah. He virtually never fair caught anything. Thanks for clarifying.

Ubeja Vontell 02-19-2020 02:02 AM

Tyreek Hill

Rain Man 02-20-2020 11:26 AM

It looks like Tyreek eked out the punt returner spot on the all-decade team.


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