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ShowtimeSBMVP 02-20-2020 03:09 PM

Owners approve new CBA
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Here is the memo that the NFL has accepted the terms of the new proposed CBA: <a href="https://t.co/yRYZc3anSB">pic.twitter.com/yRYZc3anSB</a></p>&mdash; Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) <a href="https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1230599827240648709?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 20, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

ToxSocks 02-20-2020 03:11 PM

In!

comochiefsfan 02-20-2020 03:11 PM

Glad that we likely aren’t getting a work stoppage.

Hate the proposed terms though.

Carlota69 02-20-2020 03:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by comochiefsfan (Post 14805544)
Glad that we likely aren’t getting a work stoppage.

Hate the proposed terms though.

Dont the players have to agree? Or did they already?

ToxSocks 02-20-2020 03:14 PM

So the NFLPA still has to approve.

This is looking like a power move to put the onus on the players.

loochy 02-20-2020 03:16 PM

LOL. Yeah, no shit the owners agree...it was their idea.

ShowtimeSBMVP 02-20-2020 03:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by loochy (Post 14805552)
LOL. Yeah, no shit the owners agree...it was their idea.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">NFL owners were not unanimous in the approval of the proposed CBA, per source. Not every owner voted for it.</p>&mdash; Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) <a href="https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1230600742211346432?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 20, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

loochy 02-20-2020 03:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ShowtimeSBMVP (Post 14805560)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">NFL owners were not unanimous in the approval of the proposed CBA, per source. Not every owner voted for it.</p>&mdash; Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) <a href="https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1230600742211346432?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 20, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

That's how votes usually work.

comochiefsfan 02-20-2020 03:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ShowtimeSBMVP (Post 14805560)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">NFL owners were not unanimous in the approval of the proposed CBA, per source. Not every owner voted for it.</p>&mdash; Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) <a href="https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1230600742211346432?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 20, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Hopefully Clark Hunt was on the nay side.

Since his team might be the one hurt the worst by the new playoff rules.

mdchiefsfan 02-20-2020 03:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by comochiefsfan (Post 14805563)
Hopefully Clark Hunt was on the nay side.

Since his team might be the one hurt the worst by the new playoff rules.

I know Al Davis used to always vote against the majority. I wonder if bowl-cut is following suit.

BoxWine_Stouffers_TubeSock 02-20-2020 03:25 PM

SHIT

DRM08 02-20-2020 03:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by comochiefsfan (Post 14805563)
Hopefully Clark Hunt was on the nay side.

Since his team might be the one hurt the worst by the new playoff rules.

I would think he votes for whichever scenario gives him a larger salary cap so he can have a better chance to keep Chris Jones.

RunKC 02-20-2020 03:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by comochiefsfan (Post 14805563)
Hopefully Clark Hunt was on the nay side.

Since his team might be the one hurt the worst by the new playoff rules.

Pretty sure Clark wanted more playoff teams a couple years ago. Plus he gets more money.

He absolutely voted yes.

mdchiefsfan 02-20-2020 03:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 14805549)
So the NFLPA still has to approve.

This is looking like a power move to put the onus on the players.

This. Judging by how “hopeful” the NFLPA was with the proposal earlier this week, I think the owners are attempting to make the players look guilty for any drawn out agreement.

The Franchise 02-20-2020 03:37 PM

Wonder if the terms will be released before the NFLPA votes on it.

MOhillbilly 02-20-2020 03:40 PM

I doubt if the NFLPA agrees to the new cba.

Mecca 02-20-2020 03:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MOhillbilly (Post 14805588)
I doubt if the NFLPA agrees to the new cba.

If they turn it down there's going to be a work stoppage.

SAUTO 02-20-2020 04:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MOhillbilly (Post 14805588)
I doubt if the NFLPA agrees to the new cba.

I think they will

5 billion is a lot of money

Wilson8 02-20-2020 04:03 PM

Player reps from the league’s 32 teams will do a conference call tomorrow. They will vote and if they get a 2/3 in favor, it goes to the league wide membership. It only needs a simple majority for approval from them.

I think it passes. No one wants to kill the golden goose.

RINGLEADER 02-20-2020 04:04 PM

The new playoff rule and 17-game schedule are dumb.

Just double up the Monday night package like they do opening week. Switching 16 games to prime time would be worth more than 17 additional Sunday afternoon games.

Also, you could limit the Thursday night package to the center of the season to correspond with the byes and have those be your international games (when teams have more time to get there and back). Make them bigger games with the same price tag for 10 games plus opening night.

ShowtimeSBMVP 02-20-2020 04:08 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">How would players be compensated for a 17th game if they signed contracts based on a 16-game schedule? Basically, under proposed CBA, they&#39;d get an extra game check, but it&#39;d be capped at $250,000, per sources. So the highest-paid players would play for less than usual.</p>&mdash; Tom Pelissero (@TomPelissero) <a href="https://twitter.com/TomPelissero/status/1230613879912308737?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 20, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>


Why would players ever agree to that

Wilson8 02-20-2020 04:09 PM

Chiefs player rep is Dustin Colquitt with Patrick Mahomes as the alternate.

CarlosCarson27 02-20-2020 04:09 PM

Players will eventually agree no matter what.
Jocks are a dime a dozen. They like their 6 and 7 digit paydays. They can't beat billionaires no matter how hard they try.

big nasty kcnut 02-20-2020 04:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wilson8 (Post 14805629)
Chiefs player rep is Dustin Colquitt with Patrick Mahomes as the alternate.

So our two mvp are repping the chiefs nice!

ShowtimeSBMVP 02-20-2020 04:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CarlosCarson88 (Post 14805630)
Players will eventually agree no matter what.
Jocks are a dime a dozen. They like their 6 and 7 digit paydays. They can't beat billionaires no matter how hard they try.

I agree when it goes to player vote it will pass. A lot more average players in league then stars. They will love the Minimum Salary increase.

VAGOMO 4 LIFE! 02-20-2020 04:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wilson8 (Post 14805629)
Chiefs player rep is Dustin Colquitt with Patrick Mahomes as the alternate.

Double MVPs!!! Pat should agree to it tho. Sooner it gets agreed to sooner he gets paid. Once the deal is signed I expect a deal to be down for Mahomes before he even has time to fly from New York to KC

notorious 02-20-2020 04:21 PM

Hopefully their planes crash into each when leaving.

dirk digler 02-20-2020 04:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ShowtimeSBMVP (Post 14805626)
How would players be compensated for a 17th game if they signed contracts based on a 16-game schedule? Basically, under proposed CBA, they'd get an extra game check, but it'd be capped at $250,000, per sources. So the highest-paid players would play for less than usual.
— Tom Pelissero (@TomPelissero) February 20, 2020
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Why would players ever agree to that


If the players agree to that they are dumb

RunKC 02-20-2020 04:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ShowtimeSBMVP (Post 14805626)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">How would players be compensated for a 17th game if they signed contracts based on a 16-game schedule? Basically, under proposed CBA, they&#39;d get an extra game check, but it&#39;d be capped at $250,000, per sources. So the highest-paid players would play for less than usual.</p>&mdash; Tom Pelissero (@TomPelissero) <a href="https://twitter.com/TomPelissero/status/1230613879912308737?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 20, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>


Why would players ever agree to that

Not sure it means that much to highest paid players.

Total guaranteed $$
Signing bonus
Money up front

Imagine that’s what they care about most

ToxSocks 02-20-2020 04:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ShowtimeSBMVP (Post 14805626)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">How would players be compensated for a 17th game if they signed contracts based on a 16-game schedule? Basically, under proposed CBA, they&#39;d get an extra game check, but it&#39;d be capped at $250,000, per sources. So the highest-paid players would play for less than usual.</p>&mdash; Tom Pelissero (@TomPelissero) <a href="https://twitter.com/TomPelissero/status/1230613879912308737?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 20, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>


Why would players ever agree to that

Not a chance in hell the players would agree to this.

ShowtimeSBMVP 02-20-2020 04:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 14805660)
Not a chance in hell the players would agree to this.

You be surprised, a lot more players that are on the bubble then stars will agree to anything.

notorious 02-20-2020 04:30 PM

A lot of slandering is going to happen toward the players to turn us against them like always.

Yes, the players make a lot of money. They also work their asses off.

Many of the owners were born with a silver spoon shoved up their ass. They are some of the greediest pieces of shit to ever walk the Earth.

REMEMBER THIS WHEN TAKING SIDES.

DRM08 02-20-2020 04:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ShowtimeSBMVP (Post 14805626)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">How would players be compensated for a 17th game if they signed contracts based on a 16-game schedule? Basically, under proposed CBA, they&#39;d get an extra game check, but it&#39;d be capped at $250,000, per sources. So the highest-paid players would play for less than usual.</p>&mdash; Tom Pelissero (@TomPelissero) <a href="https://twitter.com/TomPelissero/status/1230613879912308737?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 20, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>


Why would players ever agree to that

That’s a terrible deal for any of the guys making well above $250,000 per game...especially guys who signed pretty new contracts.

VAGOMO 4 LIFE! 02-20-2020 04:41 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">This is a good sign for tomorrow’s vote for the players. One hard issue appears to be solved. <a href="https://t.co/XpvaiaIX9I">https://t.co/XpvaiaIX9I</a></p>&mdash; Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) <a href="https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/1230615266792558592?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 20, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

penguinz 02-20-2020 04:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DRM08 (Post 14805671)
That’s a terrible deal for any of the guys making well above $250,000 per game...especially guys who signed pretty new contracts.

More than they make for a playoff game.

DRM08 02-20-2020 04:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by penguinz (Post 14805681)
More than they make for a playoff game.

Playoffs are all about your legacy. Regular season is all about getting paid your fair share.

dlphg9 02-20-2020 04:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DRM08 (Post 14805671)
That’s a terrible deal for any of the guys making well above $250,000 per game...especially guys who signed pretty new contracts.

Yeah anyone making over $4 million a year makes over $250,000. What a load of shit. They have to be trolling with that bullshit.

Wilson8 02-20-2020 04:49 PM

These are the people that have to agree to it first.

NFL Player Representative - 2/3 vote needed
1. ARIZONA CARDINALS - Corey Peters
2. ATLANTA FALCONS - Josh Harris
3. BALTIMORE RAVENS - Ronnie Stanley
4. BUFFALO BILLS - Patrick DiMarco
5. CAROLINA PANTHERS - Greg Van Roten
6. CHICAGO BEARS - Chase Daniel
7. CINCINNATI BENGALS - Geno Atkins
8. CLEVELAND BROWNS - Jarvis Landry
9. DALLAS COWBOYS - Byron Jones
10. DENVER BRONCOS - Brandon McManus
11. DETROIT LIONS - Devon Kennard
12. GREEN BAY PACKERS - Aaron Rodgers
13. HOUSTON TEXANS - Brennan Scarlett
14. INDIANAPOLIS COLTS - Clayton Geathers
15. JACKSONVILLE JAGUARS - Calais Campbell
16. KANSAS CITY CHIEFS - Dustin Colquitt
17. LOS ANGELES CHARGERS - Mike Pouncey
18. LOS ANGELES RAMS - Todd Gurley
19. MIAMI DOLPHINS - Christian Wilkins
20. MINNESOTA VIKINGS - Adam Thielen
21. NEW ENGLAND PATRIOTS - Matt Slater
22. NEW ORLEANS SAINTS - Craig Robertson
23. NEW YORK GIANTS - Nate Solder
24. NEW YORK JETS - Quincy Enunwa
25. OAKLAND RAIDERS - Rodney Hudson
26. PHILADELPHIA EAGLES - Malcolm Jenkins
27. PITTSBURGH STEELERS - Ramon Foster
28. SAN FRANCISCO 49ERS – Richard Sherman
29. SEATTLE SEAHAWKS - K.J. Wright
30. TAMPA BAY BUCCANEERS - Ali Marpet
31. TENNESSEE TITANS - Wesley Woodyard
32. WASHINGTON REDSKINS - Nick Sundberg

They are being led by -
NFLPA
Executive Director – DeMaurice Smith
President - Eric Winston
Treasurer – Mark Herzlich
Vice President - Sam Acho
Vice President – Lorenzo Alexander
Vice President – Zak DeOssie
Vice President – Thomas Morstead
Vice President – Russell Okung
Vice President – Richard Sherman
Vice President – Michael Thomas
Vice President – Adam Vinatieri
Vice President – Benjamin Watson

Wilson8 02-20-2020 04:51 PM

I can't imagine them agreeing to it as is.

There will be some clarification and changes and hopefully be approved.

It is a good sign that they are this close though.

BigRedChief 02-20-2020 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by ShowtimeSBMVP (Post 14805626)
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Why would players ever agree to that

They wouldnt. Gives the owners something to give up when the players come back with approval except for these changes.<iframe scrolling="no" allowtransparency="true" src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets/widget_iframe.7303c29a8108bca4ac5c9ef008ed8164.html?origin=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.chiefsplanet.com" title="Twitter settings iframe" style="display: none;" frameborder="0"></iframe><iframe id="rufous-sandbox" scrolling="no" allowtransparency="true" allowfullscreen="true" style="position: absolute; visibility: hidden; display: none; width: 0px; height: 0px; padding: 0px; border: medium none;" title="Twitter analytics iframe" frameborder="0"></iframe>

jjchieffan 02-20-2020 04:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DRM08 (Post 14805671)
That’s a terrible deal for any of the guys making well above $250,000 per game...especially guys who signed pretty new contracts.

The 17th game won't start for at least 2 years. I would say that the majority of existing contracts will be up or almost up by then. Out of those that will still be under contract, most won't be making more than that anyway. The number of players affected is small enough that it shouldn't be a factor.

CarlosCarson27 02-20-2020 04:54 PM

18. LOS ANGELES RAMS - Todd Gurley
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Lol seriously? This guy can't think his way out of a paper bag.
He'll vote how ever the nfl tells him to.
Same with most of the players on the list.

pugsnotdrugs19 02-20-2020 04:56 PM

So a bunch of moves are gonna happen if it’s agreed to?

Mahomes extension incoming? :hmmm:

Pointer19 02-20-2020 04:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DRM08 (Post 14805571)
I would think he votes for whichever scenario gives him a larger salary cap so he can have a better chance to keep Chris Jones.

I’ve never understood this. If every team has more cap space, can’t they just offer more too? It’s like when minimum wage jumps, prices have to go up too.

CarlosCarson27 02-20-2020 04:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by notorious (Post 14805667)
A lot of slandering is going to happen toward the players to turn us against them like always.

Yes, the players make a lot of money. They also work their asses off.

Many of the owners were born with a silver spoon shoved up their ass. They are some of the greediest pieces of shit to ever walk the Earth.

REMEMBER THIS WHEN TAKING SIDES.

Catching balls for a living isn't remotely working your ass off.
They make too much money already for such trivial entertainment accomplishments.
Get back to me when they wash dishes for a living for a lousy boss. That's working your ass off. This is cake.

VAGOMO 4 LIFE! 02-20-2020 05:01 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Notable point many seem to be missing: This applies only to contracts negotiated before the 17th game is instituted, which is likely years away, so it&#39;d ultimately impact a fraction of players. One small piece of an enormous CBA the 32 player reps will discuss tomorrow. <a href="https://t.co/ba2ak3RA02">https://t.co/ba2ak3RA02</a></p>&mdash; Tom Pelissero (@TomPelissero) <a href="https://twitter.com/TomPelissero/status/1230624830791331840?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 20, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

pugsnotdrugs19 02-20-2020 05:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pointer19 (Post 14805718)
I’ve never understood this. If every team has more cap space, can’t they just offer more too? It’s like when minimum wage jumps, prices have to go up too.

The only thing keeping KC from locking up Jones potentially is a lack of cap space. I would think that if they are given that space, it will be much easier to reach a deal. They still have franchise tag leverage.

Wilson8 02-20-2020 05:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CarlosCarson88 (Post 14805712)
This guy can't think his way out of a paper bag. He'll vote how ever the nfl tells him to.
Same with most of the players on the list.

There are some intelligent people in this group that will help lead.

It would not be the NFL telling him how to vote. It would be the NFLPA that would do that.

notorious 02-20-2020 05:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CarlosCarson88 (Post 14805720)
Catching balls for a living isn't remotely working your ass off.
They make too much money already for such trivial entertainment accomplishments.
Get back to me when they wash dishes for a living for a lousy boss. That's working your ass off. This is cake.

Lol, try trolling elsewhere bro.

dlphg9 02-20-2020 05:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pointer19 (Post 14805718)
I’ve never understood this. If every team has more cap space, can’t they just offer more too? It’s like when minimum wage jumps, prices have to go up too.

Those 2 situations are not the same. You don't understand how having more cap space would help us sign Jones? How do you not understand this?

dlphg9 02-20-2020 05:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CarlosCarson88 (Post 14805720)
Catching balls for a living isn't remotely working your ass off.
They make too much money already for such trivial entertainment accomplishments.
Get back to me when they wash dishes for a living for a lousy boss. That's working your ass off. This is cake.

Lol id like to see your fatass follow around one of these guys and see if you could keep up. You're not as special as your mom says you are.

CarlosCarson27 02-20-2020 05:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by notorious (Post 14805725)
Lol, try trolling elsewhere bro.


We simply disagree about what's important in reality.

CarlosCarson27 02-20-2020 05:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dlphg9 (Post 14805728)
Lol id like to see your fatass follow around one of these guys and see if you could keep up. You're not as special as your mom says you are.

As I said, who cares? Whether I can, has nothing to do with it.

Wilson8 02-20-2020 05:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pointer19 (Post 14805718)
I’ve never understood this. If every team has more cap space, can’t they just offer more too? It’s like when minimum wage jumps, prices have to go up too.

Quote:

Originally Posted by dlphg9 (Post 14805727)
Those 2 situations are not the same. You don't understand how having more cap space would help us sign Jones? How do you not understand this?

Actually you both have a valid point.

Short term and what Chiefs need, we should have more money to sign players.

Long term it will catch up like prices and minimum wage.

penguinz 02-20-2020 05:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wilson8 (Post 14805742)
Actually you both have a valid point.

Short term and what Chiefs need, we should have more money to sign players.

Long term it will catch up like prices and minimum wage.

It also means all the other teams have more $ to spend and could still out price KC.

CarlosCarson27 02-20-2020 05:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wilson8 (Post 14805724)
There are some intelligent people in this group that will help lead.

It would not be the NFL telling him how to vote. It would be the NFLPA that would do that.

Lol the nflpa is no challenge to the billionaire owners who allow the players the privilege of playing for money. Theyll do what ever the big boss tells them, in the long run

Sassy Squatch 02-20-2020 05:18 PM

Interesting

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">This is probably the most consequential outcome for this year: If the players approve, two tags turn into just one. Huge news for the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Cowboys?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Cowboys</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Bucs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Bucs</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Titans?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Titans</a> and others. <a href="https://t.co/GqA7gtIcx7">https://t.co/GqA7gtIcx7</a></p>&mdash; Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) <a href="https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/1230605282444795924?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 20, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Wilson8 02-20-2020 05:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by penguinz (Post 14805747)
It also means all the other teams have more $ to spend and could still out price KC.

True if it is an open market and all teams get to bid on Chris Jones. We have him though and hopefully we can agree on value without teams saying well we would pay you $23 M per year. That would be tampering.

You also hope that Chris Jones wants to be a Chiefs and will be happy with a good $$ contract.

jettio 02-20-2020 05:23 PM

This last season:

Chiefs, 49ers and Titans played 19 games
Packers, Texans, Seahawks, Vikings played 18 games
Ravens, Patriots, Saints, Eagles, Bills played 17 games.

I think 17 game season can be executed in a way that does not measurably impact the overall health of players.

JakeF 02-20-2020 05:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MOhillbilly (Post 14805588)
I doubt if the NFLPA agrees to the new cba.

They are gaining about 5 billion more dollars for their share. They also get their benefits a year earlier. Those are some pretty strong points to agree.

SuperBowl4 02-20-2020 05:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mdchiefsfan (Post 14805569)
I know Al Davis used to always vote against the majority. I wonder if bowl-cut is following suit.

I think Al Davis abstained from casting a vote the majority of the time as a NFL owner.

pugsnotdrugs19 02-20-2020 05:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 14805767)
Interesting

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">This is probably the most consequential outcome for this year: If the players approve, two tags turn into just one. Huge news for the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Cowboys?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Cowboys</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Bucs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Bucs</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Titans?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Titans</a> and others. <a href="https://t.co/GqA7gtIcx7">https://t.co/GqA7gtIcx7</a></p>&mdash; Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) <a href="https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/1230605282444795924?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 20, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Free agency is going to be ‘litty titty’.

CarlosCarson27 02-20-2020 05:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 14805794)
Free agency is going to be ‘litty titty’.


litty-titty. adjective ; compounding. Used to describe an event that is exciting and enjoyable. A departure from an existing definition of lit, which carries the implication of intoxication. The -ty suffix on lit does not appear to be meaningful
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Yeah, I had to look it up. You kids and your hip and happening new slang lol.

JakeF 02-20-2020 05:33 PM

The new CBA doesn't increase the number of roster spots enough though. The roster should have 65 players for 17 games.

penguinz 02-20-2020 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by JakeF (Post 14805810)
The new CBA doesn't increase the number of roster spots enough though. The roster should have 70 players with 17 games.

**** no. It should stay the same just allow all to dress for every game.

JakeF 02-20-2020 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by penguinz (Post 14805811)
**** no. It should stay the same just allow all to dress for every game.

Why? More roster spots would allow teams to develop more players increase the talent level league wide over time. Teams need more depth now, 17 games will increase that need even more.

pugsnotdrugs19 02-20-2020 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by penguinz (Post 14805811)
**** no. It should stay the same just allow all to dress for every game.

Agreed. It’s one extra game.

Wilson8 02-20-2020 05:39 PM

It will be interesting to see what the terms will be.

I read that a much more lenient drug policy testing will be part of it -

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The new CBA offered by the NFL includes a clause that would reduce the four-month drug testing window into a two-week period. If a player hasn't previously tested positive for marijuana, this would dramatically reduce the duration they had to refrain from cannabis use.

penguinz 02-20-2020 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by JakeF (Post 14805820)
Why? More roster spots would allow teams to develop more players increase the talent level league wide over time. Teams need more depth now, 17 games will increase that need even more.

Because the back end of the rosters are already crap players.

Megatron96 02-20-2020 05:44 PM

Did they increase the roster size at all?

JakeF 02-20-2020 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by penguinz (Post 14805828)
Because the back end of the rosters are already crap players.

That's the team's fault, they don't have to be crap. There's no downside to having a bigger roster if teams work hard to find players worth developing.

JakeF 02-20-2020 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 14805839)
Did they increase the roster size at all?

I heard a rumor of 3 spots but not sure.

Chiefaholic 02-20-2020 05:50 PM

President - Eric Winston "The ownthers propothal is sickthening and disguthing"

jettio 02-20-2020 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by JakeF (Post 14805810)
The new CBA doesn't increase the number of roster spots enough though. The roster should have 65 players for 17 games.

You must hate the XFL or you are hoping for an XFL roster spot.

Wilson8 02-20-2020 05:57 PM

This is a little dated because it came out before the owners agreed but it has some good information.

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Here’s what we know so far based on talks with people familiar with the deliberations, who spoke to USA TODAY Sports on the condition of anonymity because of the sensitive nature of the negations:

What’s the deadline for the finalization of the new CBA agreement? While the new CBA must be in place before the start of the 2021 season to avoid a work stoppage, there’s no hard deadline set. However, the owners would like to reach an agreement with the players by the start of the next league year (March 18). Not only would that ensure the avoidance of a work stoppage, but it also gives the NFL more leverage to negotiate more lucrative broadcast deals, which translates into increased revenue for all parties involved. The goal of NFLPA leadership is to significantly improve working conditions and get the most out of a new deal to benefit the most players. Based on how things are shaping up, it appears that both sides have a real chance of achieving both goals.

Are the two sides as close as they seem? It’s getting there. Both sides have either reached points of comfort or are within striking distance of agreements on a number of the key aspects of the new CBA. There’s still some ground to make up on several sticking points. But, there’s a strong sense of optimism from the owners’ side that a deal will soon be reached. The players’ side features a more guarded sense of optimism.

What changes are the sides already in agreement on? There’s going to be a 17-game season. The preseason is going to be shortened. The players’ portion of the revenue pie is going to jump by roughly 1.5 percent which, coupled with projected revenue growth, will translate to an increase of around $5 billion more for players over the life of the new 10-year CBA. That current fifth-year option setup in first-round draft picks’ contracts will change to make the fourth and fifth years fully guaranteed at the time of signing. The performance-based payouts will increase. Practice squad sizes will increase, as will the salaries of those players. Player benefit packages are going to expand dramatically, exceeding those of any other pro sports league. Teams will receive a salary cap exemption for two veteran players up to $2 million. The owners are going to relax the drug policy and the system for player discipline. Offseason workouts and training camp rules will limit the amount of hitting that teams will be able to require players to partake in. The postseason will expand from 12 to 14 teams with the top seed of each conference receiving a bye.

What sticking points still need more work? The players still want additional increases to minimum salaries. They also want more physical contact restrictions and additional rest days built into the training camp schedules. This will help reduce wear and tear on the body, and also enable players additional time to spend with their families. The players want to get rid of the funding rule, which teams have used to try to avoid offering significant future guarantees. The owners do not want to eliminate the rule, but might make concessions. The NFLPA also wants some kind of bonus check for players already under contracts structured for 16 games to compensate for a 17th game.

When will the regular season and playoff changes take place? The expanded playoff format would take effect in the 2020 season. Meanwhile, the earliest implementation of the 17-game regular season schedule would be 2021.

OK, no deadline. But what’s the earliest all this stuff could be hammered out? Realistically, the sides could reach an agreement by early next week if both of this week’s meetings draw positive votes from its members. At least 24 of the 32 owners must vote in approval of the new CBA. And at least two thirds of the 32 player reps, and then the majority of all players must give it a thumbs up. Then, pen will be put to paper. Although talks could always drag out further, it’s advantageous to finalize this ASAP because the franchise player and transition player tag figures will be determined on Feb. 25.

USA TODAY Sports’ Mike Jones on Twitter @ByMikeJones

jettio 02-20-2020 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by DRM08 (Post 14805838)
It’s not just 1 extra regular season game. Looking at 2 extra games for teams who make the playoffs and are not the 1 seed.

So a wild card team in the past would potentially play 20 games if they made it to the Super Bowl. Now it’s going to be 22 games.

would just be 21. you still have 3 weekends of playoffs and 1 super bowl.

tyecopeland 02-20-2020 06:07 PM

All kinds of stupid in this cba proposal. This is going to fulfill mark Cuban's prophecy.

RealSNR 02-20-2020 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by penguinz (Post 14805828)
Because the back end of the rosters are already crap players.


We need Mahomes’ BFF on this team damn it!!

ShowtimeSBMVP 02-20-2020 06:21 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">One interesting nugget from the proposed CBA: The NFL&#39;s answer to the NBA&#39;s mid-level exception, with an extra $1.25 million excluded from salary cap for up to 2 players with 4+ years experience. Minimum salaries also up across the board.</p>&mdash; Tom Pelissero (@TomPelissero) <a href="https://twitter.com/TomPelissero/status/1230647522177245184?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 21, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>


That’s huge

ShowtimeSBMVP 02-20-2020 06:22 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">This will also be notable, from the term sheet: &quot;Implementation of a neutral decision-maker for most Commissioner Discipline cases.&quot; No more judge-jury-executioner system.</p>&mdash; Tom Pelissero (@TomPelissero) <a href="https://twitter.com/TomPelissero/status/1230647896183275520?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 21, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>


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