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Carlota69 02-24-2020 02:59 PM

HBO McMillions
 
HOLY SHIT!
Anyone watching this???

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BWillie 02-24-2020 03:02 PM

I remember that game. If I recall correctly, you could get 2 of 3 of the pieces or 1 of 2 of the pieces for each street or avenue. The real difficulty was getting the one rare piece.

I ate lots of mcfries trying to get them sons a bitches

Carlota69 02-24-2020 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 14811013)
I remember that game. If I recall correctly, you could get 2 of 3 of the pieces or 1 of 2 of the pieces for each street or avenue. The real difficulty was getting the one rare piece.

I ate lots of mcfries trying to get them sons a bitches

Watch the doc! YOU NEVER HAD A CHANCE. This story is ****ing nuts

Buehler445 02-24-2020 05:26 PM

Yeah. Im watching it. It’s really interesting. ****ing chuckleheads. I can’t believe they didn’t get caught sooner

chiefzilla1501 02-24-2020 07:02 PM

It's pretty awesome. The story is crazy by itself. But the loose cannon fbi agent is pretty great too.

Buehler445 02-24-2020 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 14811343)
It's pretty awesome. The story is crazy by itself. But the loose cannon fbi agent is pretty great too.

He’s funny as hell.

There is a surprising amount of humor in this.

Why Not? 02-24-2020 07:05 PM

Thanks Carlota. I was to lazy to start a thread about this show but it needed a thread. I am super sucked in. I remember hearing about this scam and then nothing....then I found out the trials for all these guys started on 9/10/2001. That explains why everyone forgot about this. Very well done Doc. Love the FBI agent. Lol.

Bowser 02-24-2020 08:24 PM

Nice, I'll check this out

TwistedChief 02-25-2020 03:41 AM

Yeah, it's pretty amazing.

InChiefsHeaven 02-25-2020 07:32 AM

I've heard good things. I don't have HBO, but I'll probably get the HBO Go app or something for a month to watch this.

chiefzilla1501 02-25-2020 07:34 AM

Yesterday seemed a little too unnecessarily long. But great way to close. Someone on Twitter was laughing that everyone involved is a character themselves. There are so many wildly unreliable narrators that it’ll be interesting when the documentary reveals who actually did what.

Carlota69 02-25-2020 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 14811798)
Yesterday seemed a little too unnecessarily long. But great way to close. Someone on Twitter was laughing that everyone involved is a character themselves. There are so many wildly unreliable narrators that it’ll be interesting when the documentary reveals who actually did what.

Agreed. The 4th episode is the weakest so far, but still a great show! I wish it was on Netflix or something so I didnt have to wait a week to finish it

Sorry 02-25-2020 01:20 PM

There was a article posted about this story on here awhile back.

Makes you think how many things have been rigged over the years

DeepPurple 02-25-2020 03:29 PM

I'm watching, the biggest problem is the people of course are criminals, but they're not even likeable, in fact they're scumbags. I can't believe the FBI takes so long to put them away. The doc itself, is too long. It could of been a 2 hour Dateline episode. If it wasn't for this one FBI agent, it would be like watching paint dry.

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Talisman 02-26-2020 09:57 AM

The lure of the million dollar payout had so many of them jumping in to buy a winning ticket without truly understanding the payout structure and the mob's cut. If it was a lump sum, they'd at least have some money to potentially payoff their house or buy a few nice things. The $50k per year for 20 years made for a slow trickle after everyone took their piece of the pie.

With the mob Jerry taking half pre-tax and them having to pay taxes on the full amount, they were basically coming out with around $10k a year. After paying in $50k for the opportunity to get in on the scam, it was going to take five years before they broke even. Not exactly the windfall it seemed.

BigRedChief 02-27-2020 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Talisman (Post 14813772)
The lure of the million dollar payout had so many of them jumping in to buy a winning ticket without truly understanding the payout structure and the mob's cut. If it was a lump sum, they'd at least have some money to potentially payoff their house or buy a few nice things. The $50k per year for 20 years made for a slow trickle after everyone took their piece of the pie.

With the mob Jerry taking half pre-tax and them having to pay taxes on the full amount, they were basically coming out with around $10k a year. After paying in $50k for the opportunity to get in on the scam, it was going to take five years before they broke even. Not exactly the windfall it seemed.

They just saw $1 million and figured easy street has arrived. None of the patsies are very smart. Which is why they ended up with 10% of the money even though they were "winners" and the very public face of the scam.

And McDonalds was really stupid. You can randomize the winners and know what store it was sent to or at least what city/area of the country it should have been pulled.

Buehler445 02-27-2020 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 14815035)
They just saw $1 million and figured easy street has arrived. None of the patsies are very smart. Which is why they ended up with 10% of the money even though they were "winners" and the very public face of the scam.

And McDonalds was really stupid. You can randomize the winners and know what store it was sent to or at least what city/area of the country it should have been pulled.

Yeah. It’s remarkable how far at arms length they were.

My fat ass starts cutting million dollar checks and I’m going to know.

But the security at the place seemed bullet proof. That may have been enough for them. I’m certainly interested in how they beat it.

Talisman 02-27-2020 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 14815379)
Yeah. It’s remarkable how far at arms length they were.

My fat ass starts cutting million dollar checks and I’m going to know.

I'm guessing they basically considered it advertising cost. As soon as they launched one of the Monopoly campaigns, it was an instant sales boost, usually increasing overall sales between 2-6%.

What they should have raised an eye at, was that for a time, every single million dollar winning ticket was being turned in (outside of the one that dude flushed down the toilet). I'd think there would be some thrown away by people not realizing they had one of the two locations that was impossible to get. Or by a person who has no interest in the game and never pulled the tabs.

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But the security at the place seemed bullet proof. That may have been enough for them. I’m certainly interested in how they beat it.
Which is the part they are dangling on a stick to keep us watching. Lol.

Carlota69 02-27-2020 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Talisman (Post 14813772)
The lure of the million dollar payout had so many of them jumping in to buy a winning ticket without truly understanding the payout structure and the mob's cut. If it was a lump sum, they'd at least have some money to potentially payoff their house or buy a few nice things. The $50k per year for 20 years made for a slow trickle after everyone took their piece of the pie.

With the mob Jerry taking half pre-tax and them having to pay taxes on the full amount, they were basically coming out with around $10k a year. After paying in $50k for the opportunity to get in on the scam, it was going to take five years before they broke even. Not exactly the windfall it seemed.

Even worse than 10k...After Gloria paid the mob upfront by mortgaging her home and her house payment went up by $700 a month ($8600 for the year), and then only getting 10k? She made $1600 a year. Plus having the mob up her ass all the time?? Terrible

Talisman 03-10-2020 07:44 AM

Did anyone else finish this up? Seems like they could have covered everything in about 4 episodes. A lot of filler in there.

**Spoilers - if you can have those on a documentary**
The big reveal on how Jerry did it was a bit of a let down. The other security person is really going to let him take the briefcase into the bathroom? Every time? For long period of time? Did they really think that the two of them having a different combination was that great of security? Every time the case is opened the correct numbers are sitting right there in plain sight. Should have at least changed the combination each time. But I guess since it appeared sealed every time they presented it (crazy that he got a pack of those security seals) there didn't seem to be a reason to tighten security up.

Can't believe he only got 3 years. He stole $24 million worth of game pieces. And now he's making $370 monthly payments in restitution? A car payment. Well, at that rate it should only take him 5,405 years to pay it back. I'm betting his son is right. He's got money buried somewhere. That guy is way too crafty to have let it all be seized.

BigRedChief 03-12-2020 07:18 PM

It’s also in McDonalds. When they inserted the “good” game pieces into the game, they should have tracked where it was going. Which city or state. It’s shipped to Boise Idaho and someone claims to find it in South Carolina.... well that would be a red flag.


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