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Dante84 04-17-2020 04:16 PM

Who will 100% *Not* be on the board at #32?
 
Curious how many (and which) players we are 100% sure will not be available when we pick?

Are we talking about a pool of 10 guys? 20 guys?

Veach said yesterday during his presser that there are "4 QB's and 4 Premium Tackles, so you can expect a lot of curveballs."

So who will be gone-gone, and who does that leave us to choose from, should they fall?

VAGOMO 4 LIFE! 04-17-2020 04:37 PM

Okudah gone. Becton gone. All the QBs. Chase young gone

BWillie 04-17-2020 04:39 PM

Queen.

AJ Epensa.

staylor26 04-17-2020 04:45 PM

Guys I expect to be picked before the Chiefs:

Burrow
Tua
Herbert
Love
Becton
Wirfs
Wills
Thomas
Jones
Simmons
Okudah
Murray
Queen
Chaisson
Henderson
Brown
Kinlaw
Young
Lamb
Jeudy
Ruggs
Jefferson
Mims
Epenesa
Gross-Matos


That’s 25 guys. After that it’s anybody’s guess.

Chris Meck 04-17-2020 04:47 PM

My call?

The Chiefs. The Chiefs will not be picking at #32.

Chief Roundup 04-17-2020 05:11 PM

QB:
Burrow
Tagovailoa
Herbert
Love

OL:
Wirfs
Wills
Thomas
Becton
Ruiz

EDGE:
Young
Chaisson
Yetur Gross-Matos

CB:
Okudah
Henderson
Fulton

DL:
Brown
Kinlaw

WR:
Lamb
Jeudy
Ruggs
Jefferson

LB:
Simmons
Queen
Murray

Dante84 04-17-2020 05:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 14914407)
My call?

The Chiefs. The Chiefs will not be picking at #32.

That's the vibe I get. We need more picks.

staylor26 04-17-2020 05:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 14914407)
My call?

The Chiefs. The Chiefs will not be picking at #32.

I hope so but it’s going to be difficult finding a trade down with everybody in front of us doing the same.

Pitt Gorilla 04-17-2020 05:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chief Roundup (Post 14914482)
QB:
Burrow
Tagovailoa
Herbert
Love

OL:
Wirfs
Wills
Thomas
Becton
Ruiz

EDGE:
Young
Chaisson
Yetur Gross-Matos

CB:
Okudah
Henderson
Fulton

DL:
Brown
Kinlaw

WR:
Lamb
Jeudy
Ruggs
Jefferson

LB:
Simmons
Queen
Murray

i appreciate the list, but think you put too many guys on it as locks. I think at least one of queen and Murray will be there. I think Fulton could be there. Becton and ruiz as well.

saphojunkie 04-17-2020 05:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 14914528)
I hope so but it’s going to be difficult finding a trade down with everybody in front of us doing the same.

Everybody in front of us will be trying to get over the hump.

staylor26 04-17-2020 05:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by saphojunkie (Post 14914535)
Everybody in front of us will be trying to get over the hump.

It’s been reported by multiple people that a lot of teams in the second half of the draft are looking to trade down because there’s not a huge difference in the talent from 20-60.

The 49ers and Seahawks for sure are looking to trade down if possible.

Everybody can scream trade down all they want, but it takes two to tango and it might not be easy to find a trade partner if there are a few trades in front of us.

smithandrew051 04-17-2020 05:45 PM

I think Joe Burrow will be drafted within the first 7 rounds

Chris Meck 04-17-2020 05:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 14914528)
I hope so but it’s going to be difficult finding a trade down with everybody in front of us doing the same.

everybody won't.

There will be the QB's, because we have Mahomes and he's 24, and they all know they're ****ed for a generation if they don't find an answer. And the CB's, and the WR's. Some OT's that are really good. The WR's.

If you don't have a legit star QB you'd better get yourself one.

We'll come out okay.

staylor26 04-17-2020 06:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 14914570)
everybody won't.

There will be the QB's, because we have Mahomes and he's 24, and they all know they're ****ed for a generation if they don't find an answer. And the CB's, and the WR's. Some OT's that are really good. The WR's.

If you don't have a legit star QB you'd better get yourself one.

We'll come out okay.

Everybody was hyperbole, but multiple teams will reportedly be looking to trade down. The 49ers and Seahawks for example.

I don’t see anybody trading up for a QB unless Love falls, and he’s not making it to 32.

RunKC 04-17-2020 06:06 PM

Best part about drafting late is watching teams **** up making awful reaches. Based on recent history, we can expect Seattle to be that team.

Rashaad Penny AMs LJ Collier in the first rd LMAO

Chief Roundup 04-17-2020 08:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla (Post 14914532)
i appreciate the list, but think you put too many guys on it as locks. I think at least one of queen and Murray will be there. I think Fulton could be there. Becton and ruiz as well.

That is only 24 names that I listed. Ruiz might not be there but most places I have seen Becton is listed as one of the top tackle prospects.

Pitt Gorilla 04-17-2020 08:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chief Roundup (Post 14914784)
That is only 24 names that I listed. Ruiz might not be there but most places I have seen Becton is listed as one of the top tackle prospects.

I know. It's not about the number, it's the certainty that THOSE 24 will be gone. I agree with most of them, just not completely sure on some others. There will be some players taken that people will think are "reaches" even if they really aren't. See: Mitch Morse. (I know he wasn't a first rounder, but most Chief Fans thought he was a reach. Then, he signed the largest contract for a center in the NFL.)

Chief Roundup 04-17-2020 08:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla (Post 14914789)
I know. It's not about the number, it's the certainty that THOSE 24 will be gone. I agree with most of them, just not completely sure on some others. There will be some players taken that people will think are "reaches" even if they really aren't. See: Mitch Morse. (I know he wasn't a first rounder, but most Chief Fans thought he was a reach. Then, he signed the largest contract for a center in the NFL.)

Oh I understand. Like others have stated. Most places only have 15 to 20 players with 1st round grades, alas there is 32 picks in the first. So there will be 12 to 17 "reaches". There will definitely be players ala Mitch Morse. Hopefully that will be the 7 players that I didn't mention. o:-)

DaneMcCloud 04-17-2020 08:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla (Post 14914789)
See: Mitch Morse. (I know he wasn't a first rounder, but most Chief Fans thought he was a reach. Then, he signed the largest contract for a center in the NFL.)

I never thought he was a reach but let's also acknowledge that his predecessor, Rodney Hudson, also signed the largest contract for a center after 4 years with the Chiefs.

Andy Reid knows offensive lineman.

Pitt Gorilla 04-17-2020 08:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 14914797)
I never thought he was a reach but let's also acknowledge that his predecessor, Rodney Hudson, also signed the largest contract for a center after 4 years with the Chiefs.

Andy Reid knows offensive lineman.

He does and that's awesome.

VAGOMO 4 LIFE! 04-17-2020 08:52 PM

Speaking of Becton

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Multiple players had drug tests flagged at the NFL Combine &amp; among those is projected top 10 pick <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Louisville?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Louisville</a> OT Mekhi Becton, I’m told. Teams were made aware of this. Becton had no failed drug tests in college. Per new CBA rules, he goes into Stage 1 for no more than 60 days.</p>&mdash; Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) <a href="https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/1251315257097596928?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 18, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

kccrow 04-17-2020 09:33 PM

Guys I'd say "absolutely not"
QB Burrow
QB Herbert
QB Love
OT Wirfs
OT Wills
OT Thomas
LB Simmons
LB Queen
CB Okudah
CB Henderson
DT Brown
DE Young
ER Chaisson
WR Lamb
WR J. Jefferson
WR Ruggs

Guys with some concerns but I can't see being there based on talent:
DT Kinlaw - Are his knees a real issue?, I have him at 8 to ARZ
QB Tua - 13 Wonderlic and Injury concerns, I have him to NE at 23
OT Becton - Positive drug tests at the combine are never a good thing so I dropped him to 29 to TEN
WR Jeudy - 9 Wonderlic but insane talent creates a conundrum, I have him to PHI at 21
CB Johnson - Are shoulder injuries that big of a concern? I have him to LVR at 19


Other guys I fully expect will be gone:
OT Jones - Is he a tackle? That's the big question. I'm more yes than no. I have him at 20 to JAX.
CB Terrell - I think he's higher on boards than many think, I have him at 17 to DAL.
CB Diggs - Not alot of good press corners in this draft, I have him at 22 to MIN.
LB Baun - He fits 3-4 teams well at either OLB or ILB and teams like SEA (where I have him going) that use a wide end/leo. I think he's gone.
WR Mims - Athleticism and catch radius get you drafted early, I have him at 25 to MIN
LB Murray - He's not good in coverage for all that athleticism and he can't take on blocks, but I think some team takes a shot,, I have him to NO at 24

Pitt Gorilla 04-17-2020 09:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kccrow (Post 14914837)
Guys I'd say "absolutely not"
QB Burrow
QB Herbert
QB Love
OT Wirfs
OT Wills
OT Thomas
LB Simmons
LB Queen
CB Okudah
CB Henderson
DT Brown
DE Young
ER Chaisson
WR Lamb
WR J. Jefferson
WR Ruggs

Guys with some concerns but I can't see being there based on talent:
DT Kinlaw - Are his knees a real issue?, I have him at 8 to ARZ
QB Tua - 13 Wonderlic and Injury concerns, I have him to NE at 23
OT Becton - Positive drug tests at the combine are never a good thing so I dropped him to 29 to TEN
WR Jeudy - 9 Wonderlic but insane talent creates a conundrum, I have him to PHI at 21
CB Johnson - Are shoulder injuries that big of a concern? I have him to LVR at 19


Other guys I fully expect will be gone:
OT Jones - Is he a tackle? That's the big question. I'm more yes than no. I have him at 20 to JAX.
CB Terrell - I think he's higher on boards than many think, I have him at 17 to DAL.
CB Diggs - Not alot of good press corners in this draft, I have him at 22 to MIN.
LB Baun - He fits 3-4 teams well at either OLB or ILB and teams like SEA (where I have him going) that use a wide end/leo. I think he's gone.
WR Mims - Athleticism and catch radius get you drafted early, I have him at 25 to MIN
LB Murray - He's not good in coverage for all that athleticism and he can't take on blocks, but I think some team takes a shot,, I have him to NO at 24

Jeudy WILL be gone. If not, run the virtual card up immediately.

dj56dt58 04-17-2020 10:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla (Post 14914864)
Jeudy WILL be gone. If not, run the virtual card up immediately.

my god we would score 75 points a ****ing game

VAGOMO 4 LIFE! 04-17-2020 10:56 PM

Jeudy will be the first WR off the board

scho63 04-17-2020 11:55 PM

If there is some talent at WR left at #32, we may get lucky and be able to trade down for more picks

kccrow 04-18-2020 12:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE! (Post 14914927)
Jeudy will be the first WR off the board

With a 9 Wonderlic? That's not even considered 100% Literate. Seriously dude, no.

kccrow 04-18-2020 12:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla (Post 14914864)
Jeudy WILL be gone. If not, run the virtual card up immediately.

That's why I put him in the list of guys I don't think will be there based on talent. He's just too talented for a team not to deal with him taking 2 years to learn the playbook.

Now a guy like Shenault that's a box of rocks and doesn't have any athleticism and struggles against press, yeah that guy is dropping like a rock. I don't think he goes day 2 at this point.

scho63 04-18-2020 03:19 AM

You know who WON'T be there at #32..............

PATRICK MOTHER ****ING MAHOMES II

MahomesMagic 04-18-2020 07:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla (Post 14914864)
Jeudy WILL be gone. If not, run the virtual card up immediately.

Yes, Jeudy will be long gone. And I agree, if he is there you just turn the card in.

Chaisson is a guy that I don't think is a must be gone type. He is a finesse player, Dee Ford style pass-rusher and that isn't a must have for a lot of NFL teams.

If you already have tons of pressure it's nice to have Chaisson run around the edge but it's not super high impact.

Chiefaholic 04-18-2020 09:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 14914528)
I hope so but it’s going to be difficult finding a trade down with everybody in front of us doing the same.

I probably should have read the new CBA prior to this post. But, if first rounders still have the 5th year option, that extra year alone will entice guys to move a few spots to get the guy they feel will be around at their pick in the 2nd. I'm in the Chiefs will trade down a few spots and land an extra 4th or 5th rounder.

Chiefshrink 04-18-2020 10:09 AM

I think just as equally an important questions would be "who will 'still' be there on the board" and 'why' ??


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