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staylor26 04-20-2020 12:17 AM

Peter King Mock: heard a rumor that the Chiefs want to trade up
 
for Ruggs if he falls into the twenties (not happening anyways).


https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...ia-peter-king/


Just thought it was interesting because it’s Peter King who’s reliable.

He has us taking Jeff Gladney

Quote:

32. Kansas City—Jeff Gladney, cornerback, TCU

Craziest rumor of the first round: Chiefs want to trade up for Henry Ruggs if he falls into the twenties. Insane. Do they want every sub 4.35 guy in the National Football League? A couple of theories: There are only two very good cover corners in this draft, Okudah and Henderson, and they’d be long gone by the time the Chiefs could make a reasonable offer. Sammy Watkins is a short-termer, probably only one more year in KC, so another quick-twitch guy would fit either this year or next. Finally, fast guys with slight builds who collide with defenders tend to get hurt, so Ruggs would be good insurance for that in 2020 and a stalwart beyond that.

Anyhoo, the Chiefs’ biggest position of need right now is corner, and Gladney is a competitive and tough player who would fit in Steve Spagnuolo’s scheme.

Chiefspants 04-20-2020 01:21 AM

It’s like Al Davis got in a time machine and saw the Chiefs owning the league with speed and decided to try getting a franchise quarterback and drafting speed in the first round every pick.

Davis of course, failed miserably. Andy has been doing it right. I’d be disappointed if it’s the way we went, but ultimately I trust Andy to continue stockpiling speed and talent on this offense.

VAGOMO 4 LIFE! 04-20-2020 01:23 AM

I can see Veach doing this. He has some big brass balls

TwistedChief 04-20-2020 01:55 AM

We won the Super Bowl. If they want to try to do it again relying upon an even more blazing group of WRs, go for it. They've earned my trust.

I would just laugh and laugh hard.

BWillie 04-20-2020 02:18 AM

**** it. Just chuck it deep. Lets do this.

eDave 04-20-2020 02:39 AM

Viewership of this is going to be huge.

BWillie 04-20-2020 02:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eDave (Post 14917660)
Viewership of this is going to be huge.

I typically hate the NFL draft. ****ing hate it.

But I'm getting extremely overserved and yelling at my TV. Wearing my Mahomes jersey and live video conferencing with a bunch of friends while we watch.

I haven't been this excited for a non-action sporting event maybe ever.

Skyy God 04-20-2020 03:43 AM

Thread title sucks.

The prospect of Ruggs in this offense does not, however.

Skyy God 04-20-2020 03:44 AM

From the same article:

“The other side of that is some very smart offensive minds—Sean Payton, Andy Reid—love Ruggs.”

Hog's Gone Fishin 04-20-2020 03:49 AM

Then we could move Hill to RB!

Red Dawg 04-20-2020 04:20 AM

King is full of crap. He never knows shit and has zero.

HemiEd 04-20-2020 04:29 AM

They are running a little short on ammo to trade up.

Chiefaholic 04-20-2020 04:52 AM

I don't see him getting past then Raiders second pick in any mock draft.

Rasputin 04-20-2020 05:06 AM

Or we could trade down acquire more picks or just stand at 32 and pick the guy Veach wants that is there.


Ground breaking stuff Chiefs could trade up when they are 32nd in the draft. Although we don't have many picks to play with so i think the likely hood is nil maybe enticing but still nil.

Dunerdr 04-20-2020 06:00 AM

With the ****ed up offseason i wouldnt be upset if they give up some capitol to get a guy they feel is sure fire and a fit. However its a deep class and i feel like if an unlikely trade back is there we could fill some holes with second and third tier guys for years to come.

Direckshun 04-20-2020 06:21 AM

That would be ABSOLUTELY INSANE (in a good way).

I'd hate to see it in a way with our back seven needing so much investment but Veach is a homerun hitter.

MahomesMagic 04-20-2020 06:30 AM

Not a huge fan of Ruggs. Think he's worth a 1st round pick but would hate trading up for him.

tyecopeland 04-20-2020 06:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 14917661)
I typically hate the NFL draft. ****ing hate it.

But I'm getting extremely overserved and yelling at my TV. Wearing my Mahomes jersey and live video conferencing with a bunch of friends while we watch.

I haven't been this excited for a non-action sporting event maybe ever.

I'm thinking it's going to be awful. All the commentators talking over each other but now remotely so they really dont have any idea when to shut up because they cant actually hear the other two people talking.

493rd 04-20-2020 06:38 AM

This is the deepest WR draft in the history of football, apparently. Not sure why we’d trade up for a guy. I think the more likely scenario is that we trade down from 32 and add some picks on day 2.

Direckshun 04-20-2020 06:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 493rd (Post 14917725)
This is the deepest WR draft in the history of football, apparently. Not sure why we’d trade up for a guy. I think the more likely scenario is that we trade down from 32 and add some picks on day 2.

That's actually unlikely, at this point.

Reporting is that the three teams at the bottom of the 1st are all in prime positions to trade down, which likely dilutes our market past the point where it's worth it.

I'd put money on the Chiefs making a pick on Thursday.

Deberg_1990 04-20-2020 06:55 AM

Peter King is reliable?

He’s a name, but he’s not more reliable than anyone else.

Direckshun 04-20-2020 06:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 14917745)
Peter King is reliable?

He’s a name, but he’s not more reliable than anyone else.

From the article:

Quote:

• For the record, last year I hit on 26 of 32 first-rounders (meh), had nine players picked by the right team (good), and nailed the slot of eight players (good). I’d sign for those results any year.

Dante84 04-20-2020 06:59 AM

Love Ruggs, but also love Donavan Peoples-Jones In the 3rd or 4th

Great Expectations 04-20-2020 07:07 AM

Reagor is pretty damn fast, how far can he fall? He also never had great QB play and still put up numbers.

ThaVirus 04-20-2020 07:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rasputin (Post 14917685)
Or we could trade down acquire more picks or just stand at 32 and pick the guy Veach wants that is there.


Ground breaking stuff Chiefs could trade up when they are 32nd in the draft. Although we don't have many picks to play with so i think the likely hood is nil maybe enticing but still nil.

He mentioned a player we'd specifically being trading up to grab. Seems significant, IMO.

Red Dawg 04-20-2020 07:18 AM

No WR is worth trading up for. We have done just fine without.

RunKC 04-20-2020 07:18 AM

If this is true and they obviously don't get Ruggs, I would expect Reagor to be very high on their board as plan B

BigRedChief 04-20-2020 07:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Red Dawg (Post 14917675)
King is full of crap. He never knows shit and has zero.

Yeah players, coaches and GM's will take his calls but whens the last time he got a "scoop"? In the 90's/2000's he had the info but no longer.

IowaHawkeyeChief 04-20-2020 07:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TwistedChief (Post 14917647)
We won the Super Bowl. If they want to try to do it again relying upon an even more blazing group of WRs, go for it. They've earned my trust.

I would just laugh and laugh hard.

^this^

In Veach We Trust

RealSNR 04-20-2020 07:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 14917661)
I typically hate the NFL draft. ****ing hate it.

Interesting. Do you also hate chocolate chip cookies, you sociopathic son of a bitch?

Hog's Gone Fishin 04-20-2020 07:31 AM

What sux is we gotta wait until what 10 pm to find out we just traded out of 32

BigRedChief 04-20-2020 07:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IowaHawkeyeChief (Post 14917770)
^this^

In Veach We Trust

THIS!


At the end of the day whatever Veach decides we need to give him the benefit of the doubt. In his part of modern day football, he had been Mahomes like. He's earned our trust.

kcclone 04-20-2020 07:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hog's Gone Fishin (Post 14917779)
What sux is we gotta wait until what 10 pm to find out we just traded out of 32


That will still be 100x more sports excitement than any of us have seen in 6 weeks.

I'd watch the NFL draft from beginning to end Thursday even if the Chiefs didn't have a first round pick.

Why Not? 04-20-2020 07:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kcclone (Post 14917795)
That will still be 100x more sports excitement than any of us have seen in 6 weeks.

I'd watch the NFL draft from beginning to end Thursday even if the Chiefs didn't have a first round pick.

Very this

displacedinMN 04-20-2020 07:58 AM

It will be interesting from the virtual-social distancing aspect.

Did they change any rules about time?

Pants 04-20-2020 08:02 AM

If this were true, there would be no "rumor."

The Chiefs FO doesn't let shit like that leak.

staylor26 04-20-2020 08:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Red Dawg (Post 14917675)
King is full of crap. He never knows shit and has zero.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pants (Post 14917821)
If this were true, there would be no "rumor."

The Chiefs FO doesn't let shit like that leak.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 14917745)
Peter King is reliable?

He’s a name, but he’s not more reliable than anyone else.

:facepalm:

Peter King literally broke the news that we were in love with Marcus Peters in his one and only mock days before the draft like this one...

TomBarndtsTwin 04-20-2020 08:15 AM

I trust Veach and will be okay with what he does regardless, but IMO, it would be incredibly stupid to trade up in a draft that has so much depth and talent at positions we need and could easily fill a hole at 32 or even later if we trade back and acquire more picks (my preference).

IF Veach trades up, I would question the strategy, but I wouldn't question Veach or the player he drafted.

BlackOp 04-20-2020 08:22 AM

This move would seem counter-intuitive....considering they only have 5 picks in a deep WR class.

I seriously doubt this happens...especially since Veach stated he thought some talent would fall in the first round.

They have too many players slated to leave next year to be giving up 3 picks for a single WR.

This draft needs to be about restocking cheap labor....to compensate for Mahomes contract.

Unless they plan on dealing their 2021 #1...which should be #32 again. ;) That would be the only scenario that would make sense...giving Ruggs a year in Reid's system before Watkins leaves.

Dante84 04-20-2020 08:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlackOp (Post 14917851)
This move would seem counter-intuitive....considering they only have 5 picks in a deep WR class.

I seriously doubt this happens...especially since Veach stated he thought some talent would fall in the first round.

They have too many players slated to leave next year to be giving up 3 picks for a single WR.

This draft needs to be about restocking cheap labor....to compensate for Mahomes contract.

Unless they plan on dealing their 2021 #1...which should be #32 again. ;) That would be the only scenario that would make sense...giving Ruggs a year in Reid's system before Watkins leaves.

Gotta remember... while we don't have a lot of draft pick to trade... we do have players..:hmmm:

I wonder if CJ / LDT would be included in any scenario, although I do think it would be foolish to move CJ for JUST a slide up 10 places for a rookie WR.

O.city 04-20-2020 08:33 AM

I'm here for it.

Just throw your defense a bone and say "hey guys, hold them below 35".

smithandrew051 04-20-2020 08:34 AM

We have more pressing needs than wide receiver (even though we don’t have many needs at all)...however, if it happens, Mahomes might throw for 60 TDs this year. A shortened offseason and pretty much our entire offense back. Then you add another 4.3 40 guy? Watkins becomes our 4th fastest receiver? Holy shit.

BlackOp 04-20-2020 08:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dante84 (Post 14917868)
Gotta remember... while we don't have a lot of draft pick to trade... we do have players..:hmmm:

I wonder if CJ / LDT would be included in any scenario, although I do think it would be foolish to move CJ for JUST a slide up 10 places for a rookie WR.

Jones is worth a top 10 pick at the least....I'd value a proven commodity over hope.

The only scenario where Jones should be in play...is if KC needed to move up for a franchise QB.

SBLIVchamps 04-20-2020 08:41 AM

I love CJ, but I’ve been okay with the idea of trading him for the Jags 20th and 73rd picks. It’s probably a little less than what the 49ers got for Buckner value wise—but it’s worth more to have the extra pick.

However when I do this trade in my head it’s for one of Murray/Queen. But if we went Ruggs at 20, and still could go best D player available at 32...id be intrigued

O.city 04-20-2020 08:44 AM

I would also be ok with Gladney.

Titty Meat 04-20-2020 08:49 AM

We won the Super Bowl. If they want to try to do it again relying upon an even more blazing group of WRs, go for it. They've earned my trust.

I would just laugh and laugh hard.

RunKC 04-20-2020 08:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 14917874)
I'm here for it.

Just throw your defense a bone and say "hey guys, hold them below 35".

That’s not how we won the Super Bowl though. Team game. Defense was a major part of our championship

smithandrew051 04-20-2020 08:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 14917911)
That’s not how we won the Super Bowl though. Team game. Defense was a major part of our championship

And pretty much that exact same defense is back with the same coaching staff.

I’d prefer to add an athletic linebacker early, but it’s not like our defense will be the 2018 defense if we don’t.

Titty Meat 04-20-2020 08:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 14917911)
That’s not how we won the Super Bowl though. Team game. Defense was a major part of our championship

That's how we would win this super bowl tho

kcclone 04-20-2020 08:56 AM

Since we're going all in next year, trading a future pick to move up wouldn't totally shock me.

I'd probably prefer it's for an instant impact player on defense however, but obviously you have to trust Veach and the staff.

OrtonsPiercedTaint 04-20-2020 08:57 AM

Do they trade a vial of PMII's semen(elmers glue). For the texans' second rounder, for trade up ammo

Pants 04-20-2020 09:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 14917827)
:facepalm:

Peter King literally broke the news that we were in love with Marcus Peters in his one and only mock days before the draft like this one...

You're an idiot.

ForeverIowan 04-20-2020 09:05 AM

A core of Hill, Ruggs and Hardman with Kelce at TE and the roket launcher on Mahomes' right arm would be must see TV every single time out. I'm all for it!

Someone who is more versed in this what would it take to get from 32 to 20? Next years second rounder? A long shot that Ruggs even falls to 20.

kcclone 04-20-2020 09:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ForeverIowan (Post 14917966)
A core of Hill, Ruggs and Hardman with Kelce at TE and the roket launcher on Mahomes' right arm would be must see TV every single time out. I'm all for it!


With Robinson and Sammy being on borrowed time, getting Ruggs or another WR with our first pick wouldn't totally shock me.

FloridaMan88 04-20-2020 09:14 AM

This would awesome if it becomes reality.

JFC the biblical speed on this offense with Mahomes would be unreal.

staylor26 04-20-2020 09:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pants (Post 14917962)
You're an idiot.

The irony.

You said this can’t be true because the Chiefs don’t let shit like that leak, I provide an example of that happening with this same exact guy breaking it, and this is your response?

Peter King knew we wanted Peters when absolutely nobody else did. We were meeting with Peters days before the draft and he knew about it. Fact.

Mecca 04-20-2020 09:15 AM

I hope his mock is right because if it is...Patrick Queen.

smithandrew051 04-20-2020 09:16 AM

MY DICK WOULD LOOK LIKE THE JC NICHOLS FOUNTAIN BECAUSE OF ALL YHE JIZZZ IF THIS HAPPENED!!!!!!!!!

redshirt32 04-20-2020 09:16 AM

Plenty of wr's what we need is Def a crazed LB.

alpha_omega 04-20-2020 09:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HemiEd (Post 14917676)
They are running a little short on ammo to trade up.

Not just a little but a lot.

bevischief 04-20-2020 09:24 AM

Please rape on draft picks. In Vech we trust.

Hoover 04-20-2020 09:31 AM

Is King still giving Fat Scott Hand Jobs? I mean he built the modern day Chiefs....

Iowanian 04-20-2020 09:37 AM

I'll be floored if they don't trade out of the first.

Pants 04-20-2020 09:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 14918000)
The irony.

You said this can’t be true because the Chiefs don’t let shit like that leak, I provide an example of that happening with this same exact guy breaking it, and this is your response?

Peter King knew we wanted Peters when absolutely nobody else did. We were meeting with Peters days before the draft and he knew about it. Fact.

Who was the GM when we drafted Peters? Where were the leaks about Mahomes?

More irony is that I had to spell out the reason you're an idiot.

Mecca 04-20-2020 09:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pants (Post 14918074)
Who was the GM when we drafted Peters? Where were the leaks about Mahomes?

More irony is that I had to spell out the reason you're an idiot.

The guy that runs this show was here oh and he still is...

staylor26 04-20-2020 09:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pants (Post 14918074)
Who was the GM when we drafted Peters? Where were the leaks about Mahomes?

More irony is that I had to spell out the reason you're an idiot.

The fact that it was Dorsey doesn’t really change anything since it was still during Reid’s tenure.

The Chiefs haven’t even had a 1st round pick with Veach, so your assumption that something has changed since is baseless.

Pants 04-20-2020 09:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 14918077)
The guy that runs this show was here oh and he still is...

I know Andy is in charge in the end. It doesn't change my argument in the slightest.

ToxSocks 04-20-2020 09:44 AM

I'd love it if they trade up. It's been on my mind.

This is Veach's first 1st round pick. He doesn't strike me as a guy content to sit at 32 and i bet he's itching to swoop up his guy, whoever that is.

I would not be surprised at all if the Chiefs trade up. This ain't grandpa's Chiefs anymore.

Chief Northman 04-20-2020 09:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iowanian (Post 14918064)
I'll be floored if they don't trade out of the first.

So you know a team trading up?

Shields68 04-20-2020 09:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pants (Post 14918074)
Who was the GM when we drafted Peters? Where were the leaks about Mahomes?

More irony is that I had to spell out the reason you're an idiot.

I don't think anything leaked from the Chiefs side. Now I think there is a chance that the Chiefs talked to teams in the 20's if we needed to move up what it would take.... That might have leaked and then people take some guesses on who they might be targeting.

But realistically i think it is much more probable they end up moving down then up.

staylor26 04-20-2020 09:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pants (Post 14918081)
I know Andy is in charge in the end. It doesn't change my argument in the slightest.

We haven’t had a 1st round pick since Veach has been GM dumbass...

Mecca 04-20-2020 09:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chief Northman (Post 14918084)
So you know a team trading up?

I dunno how many teams are really going to be interested in moving up at that spot and if one of a handful of guys does fall there is no reason to move back.

BWillie 04-20-2020 10:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 14917775)
Interesting. Do you also hate chocolate chip cookies, you sociopathic son of a bitch?

I hate things that people love to talk about, but have no real confidence of what they are talking about. Usually that is the NFL draft.

But this year, I will take anything I can get. I like macadamia nut, if you must know. Chocolate chip is overrated.

Hoover 04-20-2020 10:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iowanian (Post 14918064)
I'll be floored if they don't trade out of the first.

I agree.

Not only will there be a damn good player there, but one at a position of need. The 5th year option is really valuable for a team like the Chiefs. I'd have to get a decent haul to pass on it this year.

Hoover 04-20-2020 10:09 AM

We are not moving up in the draft.

We don't have enough draft capital the way it is. Now that all changes if we deal Jones.

Titty Meat 04-20-2020 10:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 14918088)
We haven’t had a 1st round pick since Veach has been GM dumbass...

We won the superbowl you can relax

staylor26 04-20-2020 10:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Titty Meat (Post 14918178)
We won the superbowl you can relax

He’s the one that called me an idiot when he’s clearly wrong.

Get something right Billay. You can do it.

neech 04-20-2020 10:24 AM

Rumor mills are always interesting and will ramp up closer to the draft.

Gives us something to talk about I suppose.

Mile High Mania 04-20-2020 10:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by neech (Post 14918207)
Rumor mills are always interesting and will ramp up closer to the draft.

Gives us something to talk about I suppose.

Yeah, and with the lack of anything non-Covid related to talk about, it seems worse this year.

Lots of great talent in this draft, hell KC could trade down a bit and pick up another pick or two.

I'd like to see Denver trade down from 15 and do the same.

JakeF 04-20-2020 10:35 AM

It makes no sense unless they use one of our WR to trade up.


Ie use Watkins to trade up, so basically Watkins for Ruggs. Chiefs get younger and drop salary. Someone else gets a proven veteran.

The draft is deep with Wrs so i still don't see it happening.


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