Rod Woodson is the best #10 pick since the merger
 

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I disagree.


But I might harbor some bias.

Maybe the best of the "Pre-Mahomesian-era of professional football."

Just ask yourself, if you could take anyone ever picked at 10 who would you take?

Was...….until Mahomes!

Patrick Mahomes will someday be on the Mount Rushmore of QB's, yep, he'll join Tom. Joe and Peyton , BUT.........as of right now we cannot compare his three/actually two seasons to what Rod Woodson did in his 17 years career.

The guy was a six time All Pro, 11 time pro bowler, is on the all time 100 best players list.

He had 71 INTS which is the third most in NFL history. He returned 12 of them to score. He also returned 4 kicks/punts to score.

When talking QB's Tom Brady, Joe Montana, Peyton Manning, Aaron Rodgers, Drew Brees, Bret Favre, Dan Marino, will be in the discussion while Mahomes will someday be in there with them......someday.

Rod Woodson is already considered to be the greatest defensive back ever, or in that discussion.

Ah....world class hurdler while at Purdue, a 13.2 cat, 4.33 40, 10.29 100m

I love rod woodson, but I’d take Mahomes no questions asked. Mahomes can will a team to Super Bowl victory. Woodson was great, but I don’t recall him being the primary reason a team won the sb.

How many sb victories did he have in those 17 years? How many NFL MVP awards? How many SB MVPs?

Trent Dilfer won a SB, Joe Flacco won a SB, Cam Newton was an NFL MVP.

Bottom line is Mahomes simply hasn't had enought time to compete with a great great player with 17 years of greatness.

Mahomes is the best QB I have ever seen with just three NFL seasons, but that just isn't long enought to trump the greatness of Rod Woodson.

So you would take Woodson over Mahomes if both were on the board at number 10?

You know it doesn't work that way, it's about what do we need a QB or a DB.

Woodson the only HOFer in that 1987 first round

Woodson was incredible, right there with Lott and Butkus and anyone else you can think of in the pantheon

He wasn’t a corner, or a safety... Rod Woodson was a football player

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Number 41 All Time

Noway any third season player belongs ahead of this guy.

You didn’t answer my questions. I wonder why.

I would take Mahomes if I already had prime Montana, Brady, and Manning on my roster at the same time all on league minimum contracts

No argument, based on how they worded things. Woodson is far and away the best #10 pick in terms of accomplishments. Excluding Mahomes, because he's only been playing for two seasons.

Yes I did I mentioned some lesser lights winning SB's/NFL MVP.

Is Lamar "MVP" Jackson a great QB?

He won the super bowl MVP? Which year?

How many super bowl mvps did Woodson win?

You nailed it!

You measure greatness in championships, and Mahomes has already equaled Woodson there. Playing a long time is great. Pro Bowls and All Pros are great. League MVP and Superbowl MVP trumps all of that.

Obviously talking NFL MVP, and do you really think SB MVP is all that......Larry Brown!!!!

How can anyone compare any player with only ...three....seasons vs a 17 year vet who is considered one of the legends of the game.

You're talking about the last Superbowl like it wasn't one of the greatest games of all time, with one of the greatest comebacks of all time, and Mahomes was some guy who just happened to be there.

Weird little box you live in.

Eli Manning won two SB titles.

John Unitas
Fran Tarkenton
Warren Moon
Jim Kelly
Dan Fouts
Dan Marino
Philip Rivers

....won...0...combined.

Smells a lot like "True Fan" in here.

Yes and no.

If Mahomes doesn't play another down for some reason, or maybe only plays a couple more seasons and then stops for whatever reason, we'll look at his career and many will think "he was a flash in the pan." Or a one-hit wonder, whatever sounds right to you.

It wouldn't be that different from that NBA guard (can't remember his name now) that came off the bench as a rookie or a 2nd-year guy, and nearly took his team to the championship. Everyone jumped on his bandwagon for a couple years after that, but he got hurt or something and disappeared. No one looking back now is going to say "that guy was one of the greatest guards in the modern era." Because he didn't stick around long enough and play at that high level for long enough.

Woodson, on the other hand, has a 17-year career of consistent greatness to contrast/compare with any #10 pick.

Now, it won't be very long before you'll have to revisit this conversation and admit that Mahomes is the greatest 10th pick ever. 3 or 4 more years? Just not right now.

I made it very very VERY clear, Patrick Mahomes will be on the Mount Rushmore of QB's, he is the greatest third season QB we have ever seen.

BUT........three seasons vs 17. Actually two.

Mahomes won the NFL MVP his first season on the field, and got a team to the AFC Championship for the first time in almost 50 years. And then he won the Superbowl the next year.

He doesn't have to play another down to be one of the greatest players in NFL history. He's already a legend.

We're not comparing him to Tom Brady. We're comparing him to Rod freaking Woodson.

I'd rather have Darrell Green. And he wasn't drafted until 28.

Rod Woodson vs Darrell Green

INT...71....54
Pro bowls....11....6
All Pro....6.....1

Not even close, it's all Woodson.

I rank Ronnie Lott above him. Lott was an 8x First Team All Pro and had better overall numbers by playing less seasons. Lott was by far the most dominant and feared DB the league has ever seen.

Was Lott picked 10th?

Johnny Unitas thinks you missed a trivia question.

This is laughable.

FAX

The **** we can't. Mahomes has an MVP, a Super Bowl, a 50 TD 5000 yard season, and a Super Bowl MVP in two seasons starting. That easily dwarves anything Woodson ever done. Get out of here with that shit.

Woodson vs Lott

INT...72....63
TD....12....5
Pro bowls...11..10
All Pro,....6....6

Then there was Emlen Tunnell with 79 INT's also a HOFer, fantastic kick/punt returner.

Woodson has a tiny penis.

That's actually the only trivia I know about the guy ... and all I need to know.

FAX

Where would you rank Mahomes right now today vs the other QB's from an historical perspective?

Where would you rank Woodson vs the other DB's from a historical perspective?

Woodson is a Hall of Famer, ranked number 41 as the greatest player ever.

Penis-wise, he's #875. All-time.

FAX

He isn't even half way to meeting CP minimums.

Here's some trivia for ya.


1987 World Rankings 110 high hurdles
1................................... Greg Foster (US)
2............................. Tonie Campbell (US)
3................. Jon Ridgeon (Great Britain)
4.................................. Arthur Blake (US)
5...........................Mark McKoy (Canada)
6...............Colin Jackson (Great Britain)
7....................................Jack Pierce (US)
8................ Igor Kazanov (Soviet Union)
9............................... Rod Woodson (US)**********
10..................................Keith Talley (US)


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That's it, that's all I've got, I encourage the debate.

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Dude.

So he's ranked 40 spots higher than Mahomes?

Prison Bitch

I doubt a third season player was ranked at all.

He just won us a Super Bowl. He's #1 on the only list that matters to me...mine.

The MVPs is not the fairest of comparisons only because the MVP award is heavily biased in favor of QBs. Not always do they win, but by and large they have a much better shot than any other position on the field. But knowing that I do think who’s the better pick is a matter of perspective. If you value career accomplishments then Woodson is the better pick currently . If you value positional impact and current production it’s Mahomes hands down.

In spite of how great Woodson was only a fool would take him over Mahomes. No way he impacts the game and the team more than Pat does.

Yep, what a fantastic player Mahomes is, we have never seen anything like him before,yep.....unique!!!!!!!

Stats are awesome, records are awesome, Rod Woodson is no doubt one of the best players to play the game.

That said I think the standard is this. If it's the Super Bowl and you're down 10 going into the 4th and only one could play, who do you want in the game? Woodson or Mahomes? If you're up 1 going into the 4th same question? Woodson or Mahomes? Did your decision change?

When it comes to 'best' picks the QB's will always have an advantage because no one else can have nearly the same kind of impact on the team that a great QB will have.

I have no problems putting my faith in...

Tom Brady
Joe Montana
Aaron Rodgers
Drew Brees
Peyton Manning
Dan Marino
John Elway
Russell Wilson

.....to win a SB for me.

I want no other DB back there to protect a lead over Rod Woodson.

Why did you put Dan Fouts and Philip Rivers on that list of all-time great QBs?

Fouts is a Hall of Famer
number 20 All Time TD passes
number16 All Time in yards

Rivers will be a HOFer
number 6 All Time TD passes
number 6 All Time in yards

Not sure I would have as much faith in Marino and Manning as you.

I would rather have Deion Sanders than Woodson.

They're also #1 and #2 all time in being stupid ass slaves

Marino/Manning were numerous pro bowlers/All Pro's, so...???

Woodson has more pro bowls, the same 6 All Pros and more INT;s. And he holds the NFL record with 12 scores/yards with INT's.

Agree with all of this. I love Rod Woodson and always have. However, if it's pick #10 and we're on the clock, I go with Pat and never look back.

Hell, you can win with Breeland (4th round), Ward (UDFA), and Fenton (6th round) at corner if you have Pat at the helm.

And when it mattered most how did Peyton and Marino perform? They were still great players but I want a QB that is money in the biggest moments.

Deion was still the better DB. That’s no knock on Woodson, but he wasn’t as good as Sanders.

Slaves?

You are simply putting way too much into....two....seasons. Give things some time, slow down a little bit. And both Marino/Peyton were fantastic QB's, who proved that for a long time.

Totally disagree that Sanders was better than Woodson. And the stats prove that.

Exactly! The Chiefs have had great DBs in their history and have played more AFCCGs under Mahomes than every DB in their history.......combined.

Ass slaves.

Of course an all time list isn’t going to include a player with 2 real years of playing time. For me, it’s simple. Would I trade Mahomes today for a defensive back who was garunteed to have Rod Woodson’s career?

Nope. And you wouldn’t either. These dumb lists can say whatever they’d like.

I wonder how loud Rod Woodson is when he is cumming???

Woodson was the best DB in the league most of his long career, his 11 pro bowls prove that, He is the only player drafted in round one of the 87 draft in the HOF. He was ranked number 41 as the greatest player ever. He was a defensive player of the year in 93.

His numbers dwarfs the great Deion Sanders, example....solo tackles 530 to 258.

Here we have the greatest DB in NFL history. Yep...THE GOAT

Did you :hump::hump: him or something?

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This is from a different site asking the same question.


10. Rod Woodson, CB/KR, Purdue
1987 Draft, Round 1 – Pittsburgh Steelers

Woodson held out in contract negotiations until late October of the 1987 season. On Nov. 22, he showed Steelers’ fans that he was worth the wait, snagging his first interception and returning it 45 yards for a touchdown. It was the first of the Hall of Famer’s NFL-record 12 interceptions returned for touchdowns over his 17-year career. Along the way, he won a Super Bowl ring as part of the Baltimore Ravens’ legendary 2000 defense.

Woodson is among the very best football players of all time.

Today, Woodson is the best #10 pick since the merger.

In 5 years it will likely be Mahomes.

Don't get me wrong, Mahomes is fantastic and the best QB right now in the NFL. However, his greatness must be written before he can take the place of an all time great. 3 years isn't long enough for that to happen.

Only a total fool would compare a two season career to a 17 year career. YES YES YES....Mahomes is great but don't get ridiculous because you are a Chiefs fan. Rod Woodson was great for a lot longer than....two....two...seasons.

It's girth that drives the ladies wild

^this^ Woodson is renting the spot on a 5 year lease, then Mahomes will live there for eternity.

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I agree that Mahomes hasn't been playing nearly long enough to be in any GOAT conversations, but there isn't a single player in NFL history, in their prime, that I would trade Mahomes for straight up. Especially not a DB.

I think the list is garbage overall. They have Ladainian Tomlinsion ranked best ever at 5 above Deion Sanders. I like Ladainian, I think he is great, but I take Deion every time given that choice. The list is dumb.

Mahomes never held out in a contract dispute so he is automatically the greatest #10 pick.

And Johnny Unitas won a Super Bowl. I will not let that injustice lie undisturbed (even if he didn't finish the game).

Yeah, I'd go Deion over Tomlinson, though I guess I wouldn't pitch a fit over Tomlinson. If Deion played a little more run support he'd be a no-brainer.

Looking through the list, it makes one realize how rare the true superstars are. There are a lot of very good players on this list, but they're certainly not all what I would call "great".

Tomlinson is one of the most productive RBs of all time. Personally I'd take Sanders but I could see some viewing the #3 all-time TD leader as a solid choice for the pick.

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