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CoMoChief 04-30-2020 09:11 AM

The SB Hangover: Do the Chiefs experience it?
 
I know nobody wants to think about this. But is this possible?

Or does Mahomes/Reid and overall team chemistry factor in too big of a blockade for something like that to happen?

Does this season all things considered provide the Chiefs an advantage since they're not going through any regime changes, coordinator changes, QB changes, etc. They're returning 20/22 starters. The rookies may be behind a little but the majority of the team, mainly the important impact players, all know the system, playbook, language, etc. A team that does have to go through that is going to need that extra OTA, training camp time etc. Not saying the Chiefs don't need it too, but they can probably get by with picking up where they left off and go from there and not skip a beat IMO.

History hasn't been too kind to the team that's won the SB the previous season. Hope the Chiefs can overcome that bad luck mojo much like they did the Madden curse.

RunKC 04-30-2020 09:19 AM

No. The leadership on this team is just too good.

Andy, Pat, Landlord, Clark

These guys are not going to let that shit happen

Hoover 04-30-2020 09:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 14944854)
No. The leadership on this team is just too good.

Andy, Pat, Landlord, Clark

These guys are not going to let that shit happen

This.

Have you been watching our guys training and pushing each other.

It's amazing

displacedinMN 04-30-2020 09:30 AM

They are focused and hungry. They are far above and ahead a lot of other teams in making another run. They know their systems.

IowaHawkeyeChief 04-30-2020 09:34 AM

No and the COVID makes it harder to get distracted with off the field stuff... errrr except Breeland.

Hydrae 04-30-2020 09:38 AM

I usually think of the SB loser when it comes to the hangover. It is amazing to me how often we see the loser not even make the playoffs the next season.

Chiefs will be fine. So much continuity and hunger still.

TribalElder 04-30-2020 09:39 AM

no hangover

we are going to 3 peat

Ubeja Vontell 04-30-2020 09:55 AM

It's very possible we go deep into the schedule chasing the Dolphins undefeated season. This is our time and will be for awhille.

Mile High Mania 04-30-2020 09:57 AM

I doubt it, they're young enough and still hungry. If KC were an older team, maybe.

DaFace 04-30-2020 09:58 AM

Winning back-to-back is super hard. Even in their dynasty, the Patriots only did it once.

I predict that we'll be a top team and be favored to win it all, but just like this past year, you need some luck to swing your way to actually win it.

Titty Meat 04-30-2020 10:03 AM

The Chiefs are winaholics they dont get hangovers

smithandrew051 04-30-2020 10:07 AM

No. I think a lot of hangovers are just the result of an overachieving team coming back to reality.

This team is built for long term, repeatable success.

smithandrew051 04-30-2020 10:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 14944939)
Winning back-to-back is super hard. Even in their dynasty, the Patriots only did it once.

I predict that we'll be a top team and be favored to win it all, but just like this past year, you need some luck to swing your way to actually win it.

Of course, this past year we had plenty of bad luck too. Just look at all the injuries to key players. Every team has injuries, but not every team loses their QB for 3 games, their best WR for 6 (I think) games, their LT for half the season, multiple key DL throughout the year, etc.

DaFace 04-30-2020 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by smithandrew051 (Post 14944967)
Of course, this past year we had plenty of bad luck too. Just look at all the injuries to key players. Every team has injuries, but not every team loses their QB for 3 games, their best WR for 6 (I think) games, their LT for half the season, multiple key DL throughout the year, etc.

Sure, but I'm not worried about GETTING to the playoffs. We were pretty damn healthy in the playoffs (outside of Thornhill), and I'm not counting on that happening again.

I'm not saying that we don't have a shot - just that it's VERY hard to do.

smithandrew051 04-30-2020 10:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 14944971)
Sure, but I'm not worried about GETTING to the playoffs. We were pretty damn healthy in the playoffs (outside of Thornhill), and I'm not counting on that happening again.

I'm not saying that we don't have a shot - just that it's VERY hard to do.

If we get the 1-seed, we’re pretty close to a lock for the Super Bowl. Two home games off a bye is as good as it gets for Reid and Mahomes.

If we have better luck with injuries in the regular season, then I absolutely believe we’ll go 14-2. That pretty much guarantees us the 1 seed and puts everyone else at a significant disadvantage.

I’m sure we’ll make the playoffs every year. The regular season injury luck will probably determine our seeding.

You are correct. Being healthy for the postseason is key.

bowener 04-30-2020 12:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smithandrew051 (Post 14944980)
If we get the 1-seed, we’re pretty close to a lock for the Super Bowl. Two home games off a bye is as good as it gets for Reid and Mahomes.

If we have better luck with injuries in the regular season, then I absolutely believe we’ll go 14-2. That pretty much guarantees us the 1 seed and puts everyone else at a significant disadvantage.

I’m sure we’ll make the playoffs every year. The regular season injury luck will probably determine our seeding.

You are correct. Being healthy for the postseason is key.

The Ravens game appears to be the most important game for determining the #1 seed. They have stacked their team this offseason. Is that who you have as one of the two losses?

LittleMeatballNick 04-30-2020 12:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smithandrew051 (Post 14944967)
Of course, this past year we had plenty of bad luck too. Just look at all the injuries to key players. Every team has injuries, but not every team loses their QB for 3 games, their best WR for 6 (I think) games, their LT for half the season, multiple key DL throughout the year, etc.

I completely forgot about Tyreek getting injured in that first game. Man this team is good lol

Megatron96 04-30-2020 01:11 PM

My gut says no. First of all, we're returning 20 out of 22 starters; that's just huge. Especially for this season, when there won't be OTAs, maybe no mini-camp/training camp, etc. Experience and returning veterans should be a big factor.

Second, there probably won't be a real home-field advantage this season if there aren't fans in the seats. That works more in our favor. Our offense will draw fewer false starts and just generally run smoother without all the crowd noise normally found in opposing stadiums.

Third, and I think this might be the biggest factor, with the lock-down our guys aren't running around partying, doing TV appearances, doing commercials, etc. They're staying at home resting and working out. Most championship teams win and then go wild. No, not every player, but a lot of them. They party, run around the country doing appearances, and generally speaking they don't rest and rehab, or prep at all for the upcoming season.

This year our Chiefs literally can't do all that stuff. They're going to be well-rested and in pretty good shape going into whatever preseason we end up having. And probably pretty well studied up by the first regular season game.

CervezaChill 04-30-2020 01:32 PM

If anything it’s going to help the players, especially Mahomes, play fast and loose. Imagine if we had lost the Super Bowl without the fourth quarter comeback or even the Texans game with that slow start. They would be so heavily scrutinized and probably end up playing tight this season with that baggage. I imagine that’s what’s going to happen to Lamar and the Ravens in every playoff game till they win one.

big nasty kcnut 04-30-2020 02:15 PM

Hell no I've seen the chiefs players they all looking like they lost the super bowl their hungry for another one.

Graystoke 04-30-2020 03:10 PM

I say no to the hangover theory.
However stamping our ticket to the Super Bowl is very premature.
I think our athletes know how difficult getting to the ultimate game is. They will work for it and are driven.

Kiimo 04-30-2020 03:27 PM

If anything the team underachieved last season and still won it.


Most teams that don't repeat and have a hangover lose a bunch of players and coaches

mlyonsd 04-30-2020 03:57 PM

I think Andy should make an offhanded remark to Patrick and the badger. Tell them not to make breaking the dolphin record a goal, it probably isn't achievable.

DaFace 04-30-2020 03:58 PM

On the other hand, no one is gonna blame a Year 1 HC if they crash and burn this year. Pretty much any of them should get 2 years to get things in gear.

KChiefs1 04-30-2020 04:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TribalElder (Post 14944890)
no hangover

we are going to 3 peat


Only the 60’s Packers have done that right?

Chieftain 04-30-2020 04:35 PM

When you have Mahomes, there is no such thing as a hangover.

eDave 04-30-2020 04:44 PM

I don't see it at all. Will probably be a talking point next year though.

Deberg_1990 04-30-2020 04:50 PM

The Chiefs come up slightly short this year.

Lose to the Ravens 35-31 in the AFC Championship game.

smithandrew051 04-30-2020 05:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bowener (Post 14945338)
The Ravens game appears to be the most important game for determining the #1 seed. They have stacked their team this offseason. Is that who you have as one of the two losses?

Could be. I think the Ravens come back to reality this year.

I think they’re more of a 10-6 to 12-4 team. If Jackson wears down from so many carries, they could end up even worse.

Megatron96 04-30-2020 05:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 14945932)
The Chiefs come up slightly short this year.

Lose to the Ravens 35-31 in the AFC Championship game.

:facepalm:

eDave 04-30-2020 05:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 14945984)
:facepalm:

We are their Patriots.

TribalElder 04-30-2020 05:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bowener (Post 14945338)
The Ravens game appears to be the most important game for determining the #1 seed. They have stacked their team this offseason. Is that who you have as one of the two losses?

Lamar is on the madden cover

there is only 1 curse breaker and that's Mr Mahomes

TribalElder 04-30-2020 05:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KChiefs1 (Post 14945879)
Only the 60’s Packers have done that right?

no idea, I didn't think it had been done before

packers won 1&2 but jets won superbowl 3

they might have won nfc titles but super bowl era nobody has done it as far as I know.... until now at least

Megatron96 04-30-2020 05:35 PM

No team has ever won three Super Bowls in a row.

BlackOp 04-30-2020 06:12 PM

AFC is pretty weak...Ravens might be the closest team and have yet to win a single playoff game.

After them, then who? Colts with Rivers? Titans? Steelers with Big Rape returning?

Patriots were their biggest adversary...and they are dead now.

There arent any Superstar QBs except Lamar...and I think they peaked last year. I dont think that style of offense ages well...

Simply Red 05-01-2020 02:31 AM

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Originally Posted by BlackOp (Post 14946048)
AFC is pretty weak...Ravens might be the closest team and have yet to win a single playoff game.

After them, then who? Colts with Rivers? Titans? Steelers with Big Rape returning?

Patriots were their biggest adversary...and they are dead now.

There arent any Superstar QBs except Lamar...and I think they peaked last year. I dont think that style of offense ages well...

yeah pretty much

RunKC 05-01-2020 08:05 AM

If Big Ben is healthy, I think the Steelers are a better team than the Ravens.

Better defense, same OL, equal or better weapons.

staylor26 05-01-2020 08:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 14946594)
If Big Ben is healthy, I think the Steelers are a better team than the Ravens.

Better defense, same OL, equal or better weapons.

Hot take, but not bad. I just have a hard time seeing how much better the Steelers actually got this offseason.

carcosa 05-01-2020 08:45 AM

No

Misplaced_Chiefs_Fan 05-01-2020 09:26 AM

Someone was running a poll on Twitter talking about the next Super Bowl. The runaway favorite to win?

Tampa

:LOL:

Chiefs were second.

I think a lot of people are gonna be very disappointed with this upcoming season.

BleedingRed 05-01-2020 09:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Misplaced_Chiefs_Fan (Post 14946709)
Someone was running a poll on Twitter talking about the next Super Bowl. The runaway favorite to win?

Tampa

:LOL:

Chiefs were second.

I think a lot of people are gonna be very disappointed with this upcoming season.

honestly Tom Brady vs Patrick Mahomes in the Super Bowl would be one of the most epic showdowns in NFL History. Think about if it turned into a shoot out!

smithandrew051 05-01-2020 10:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BleedingRed (Post 14946721)
honestly Tom Brady vs Patrick Mahomes in the Super Bowl would be one of the most epic showdowns in NFL History. Think about if it turned into a shoot out!

If that game turned into a shootout, then the Chiefs will drop 70. The Tampa secondary sucks, their pass rush will be worse, their QB is 100 years old with a noodle arm, our QB is the best in the game with young weapons everywhere, and our pass defense is better than theirs.

DaFace 05-01-2020 10:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BleedingRed (Post 14946721)
honestly Tom Brady vs Patrick Mahomes in the Super Bowl would be one of the most epic showdowns in NFL History. Think about if it turned into a shoot out!

I'm pretty sure Tom's "shootout" days are over, but maybe he'll prove me wrong.

The Franchise 05-01-2020 10:07 AM

Saw an article listing reasons that the Chiefs would suffer a hangover.

One of the reasons was because Allegretti was a starter. lolwut?

smithandrew051 05-01-2020 10:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 14946785)
Saw an article listing reasons that the Chiefs would suffer a hangover.

One of the reasons was because Allegretti was a starter. lolwut?

Sounds like a well-written, thoroughly researched piece of literature.

Analysis like that is on par with Stephen A Smith saying that Derrick Johnson vs Hunter Henry was the key to our 2018 matchup.

D.A.P. 05-01-2020 12:21 PM

Injuries will be the main factor in determining a repeat. And luck.

MahiMike 05-01-2020 04:13 PM

We'd be chasing a 3-peat this year if not for a coin toss.

keg in kc 05-01-2020 04:14 PM

Doubt it. Usually it's related to personnel, and I can't remember any team heading into a season as defending champion half as intact as this one.

Bwana 05-01-2020 04:46 PM

No

smithandrew051 05-01-2020 06:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MahiMike (Post 14947544)
We'd be chasing a 3-peat this year if not for that worthless piece of shit who doesn’t know how the **** to line up correctly and is a perennial broke dick when not playing in a ****ing contract year.

Fyp

Mama Hip Rockets 05-01-2020 06:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TribalElder (Post 14944890)
no hangover

we are going to 15-peat

fixed

Mama Hip Rockets 05-01-2020 06:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 14945932)
The Chiefs come up slightly short this year.

Lose to the Ravens 35-31 in the AFC Championship game.

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keg in kc 05-01-2020 06:28 PM

I don't see the Ravens doing much. That option running attack won't work for a second year, with defensive coaches having time to study the all 22. So unless Lamar Jackson suddenly turns into a competent passer, they're probably back to the pack.

And the Chiefs are potentially a better team in 2020 than they were in 2019. It'll be a disappointment if they don't get the 1 seed, and if they host another Championship, they're in the Superbowl again.

smithandrew051 05-01-2020 06:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 14947790)
I don't see the Ravens doing much. That option running attack won't work for a second year, with defensive coaches having time to study the all 22. So unless Lamar Jackson suddenly turns into a competent passer, they're probably back to the pack.

And the Chiefs are potentially a better team in 2020 than they were in 2019. It'll be a disappointment if they don't get the 1 seed, and if they host another Championship, they're in the Superbowl again.

This. I don’t root for players to get worn down from hits early in their careers, but Jackson is on that trajectory. He already has the two seasons with the highest rushes by a QB...in 2 years as a starter.

The first lower leg injury will happen before long. It’ll snowball from there.

Unless Jackson transitions into Wilson or Mahomes, he’ll have a short run.

I’m struggling to think of any guys that were mediocre passers that become elite level passers.

Chiefshrink 05-01-2020 06:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IowaHawkeyeChief (Post 14944877)
No and the COVID makes it harder to get distracted with off the field stuff... errrr except Breeland.

Agreed. I really do believe this virus works in our favor for sure. Doesn't allow these guys to go on a national "ball washing tour" given to them by the major media outlets and network talk shows directly and indirectly getting all "full of themselves" and inadvertently losing focus and hunger. You see it a lot except you never saw it with the Pats(as much as I hate the Pats, I do respect how they move on from the SB wins). Bellichek's No.1 rule coming back to camp after winning a SB, there is no talking about the previous year PERIOD. And that's the way it should be. :thumb:

Chiefshrink 05-01-2020 06:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mama Hip Rockets (Post 14947752)
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Good one !!;)

mililo4cpa 05-01-2020 07:02 PM

I think this team wants to be the team that makes everyone forget about the Patriots....so no, no hangover....

Chiefshrink 05-01-2020 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by mililo4cpa (Post 14947866)
I think this team wants to be the team that makes everyone forget about the Patriots....so no, no hangover....

EXACTLY !!

crayzkirk 05-01-2020 07:11 PM

No hangover for the Chiefs; the biggest difference between the Chiefs and Patriots is that the West is much stronger than the Least. Each team in the West has improved and are familiar with the Chiefs. The Chargers were the most competitive and are loaded on defense with a lot of young players.

None of the teams in the West are as good as the Chiefs however the division isn't a pushover.

Rain Man 05-01-2020 07:40 PM

You can't get a hangover if the party never ends.


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