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Tribal Warfare 05-01-2020 02:13 AM

Kansas City Chiefs a 'perfect fit' for Clyde Edwards-Helaire
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The Chiefs had one of the most explosive offenses in the league last season, but that didn&#39;t stop them from adding more firepower in the draft. <a href="https://twitter.com/JamesPalmerTV?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@JamesPalmerTV</a> examines the newest addition to the unit -- RB Clyde Edwards-Helaire<a href="https://t.co/BzAU8kG6VM">https://t.co/BzAU8kG6VM</a> <a href="https://t.co/6IaWKOz9a8">pic.twitter.com/6IaWKOz9a8</a></p>&mdash; Around The NFL (@AroundTheNFL) <a href="https://twitter.com/AroundTheNFL/status/1255891783436754945?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 30, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Simply Red 05-01-2020 02:26 AM

I finally drilled into the video of the briefing and boy am I licking my chops. Just hoping we have a somewhat normal season after what all the nation and world has had to adjust to.

Hog's Gone Fishin 05-01-2020 03:26 AM

I'm excited. So much so I hooked up my boat and am heading to the lake in an hour to catch me some walleye.

Kman34 05-01-2020 09:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Simply Red (Post 14946455)
I finally drilled into the video of the briefing and boy am I licking my chops. Just hoping we have a somewhat normal season after what all the nation and world has had to adjust to.

You are so nice...

ToxSocks 05-01-2020 09:27 AM

Edwards Helaire is a big Muscle Car fan and apparently his favorite is a 1967 Mustang Fastback. I should try to make friends with him haha.

Hoover 05-01-2020 09:29 AM

Going to wear #25

RealSNR 05-01-2020 10:29 AM

I've already heard the story about Veach sending the text to Mahomes. But for some reason just now when I read it, I actually got a little misty-eyed. Just a bit.

I think the way nfl.com guy wrote this story is what did it. It was the realization that just when I thought Mahomes couldn't be any more perfect of a QB, he's also got this bizarre ESP going with our goddamn GM.

So not only is he the most ridiculous examples of arm talent the NFL has ever seen, but he's gutsy and already one of the best locker room leaders at the QB position in the league. He's also well-built and not one of those stickboy QBs like RGIII or Teddy Bridgewater, so we know he's going to be durable provided he continues to find ways to protect himself. He's extremely smart and loves football more than anything, so he's not a dipshit like Jeff George or Jay Cutler. He's a midwest kid, so he just plain understands KC and its community better than other QBs. He has manners-- he's a nice guy, he treats absolutely EVERYBODY with respect. He avoids controversy and anything that distracts from football. He's made of stuff that takes curses and tells them to go **** themselves. Even when he's lying on a field with his kneecap on the side of his leg, it gets snapped back into place and the doctors say, "He was just born with this gumby-like skeletal system... what would be a season ending injury for most guys is going to be nothing in terms of recovery time for him."

But now we even drafted him into a setup that has Reid and Veach on staff? Think about the best QBs in the NFL right now and the relationship they have with their coaching staffs and front office. Tom Brady can't claim he's had support or that Belichick would give two shits what he thinks about who the team should draft. Rodgers is an asshole, but he's also getting ****ed by his own team right now. O'Brien is probably nice to Watson and a decent QB coach, but he's an idiot in charge who is ****ing over his QB's career. Russell Wilson's GM has basically tried to kill him these many years, and it isn't until recently that Russell finally rose above it and they're finally starting to invest in an OL and weapons, but only incrementally. I guess about the only example I can think of where a QB's relationship with his HC/GM comes close to being as symbiotic as Mahomes' is would be Sean Payton to Drew Brees.

Like, it would be fine if Veach/Reid were just good at their jobs while not being assholes to Mahomes. That's already better than 99% of the league. And it would be fine if Mahomes were just like, "Meh, they're in charge, let's just go play some football." But Christ... Mahomes and the people in charge even THINK alike! And this kid is under 25 years old!

Before April of 2017 I would have been happy with the franchise just TRYING to draft a first round QB. If he busted, I would have still supported the move. The fact that he hit was even better. But... all this stuff on this list of good Mahomes traits is PERFECTION. I would have been over the moon to learn that our new QB possessed only the smallest number of traits necessary to win a Super Bowl. But instead we got the best damn combination of traits with the best possible coaching staff and GM. And they're ALL on the same page.

Mahomes isn't done surprising us all yet, either. You think, "Okay, Mahomes, you honestly can't get any better." But he's going to do something else that makes him MORE perfect. I don't know what it is yet, but I can't wait to find out.

That's kind of why I slightly teared up a bit.

IowaHawkeyeChief 05-01-2020 10:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 14946710)
Edwards Helaire is a big Muscle Car fan and apparently his favorite is a 1967 Mustang Fastback. I should try to make friends with him haha.

really should... and you loved him before you knew that and were spot on:thumb:

arrwheader 05-01-2020 10:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 14946820)
I've already heard the story about Veach sending the text to Mahomes. But for some reason just now when I read it, I actually got a little misty-eyed. Just a bit.

I think the way nfl.com guy wrote this story is what did it. It was the realization that just when I thought Mahomes couldn't be any more perfect of a QB, he's also got this bizarre ESP going with our goddamn GM.

So not only is he the most ridiculous examples of arm talent the NFL has ever seen, but he's gutsy and already one of the best locker room leaders at the QB position in the league. He's also well-built and not one of those stickboy QBs like RGIII or Teddy Bridgewater, so we know he's going to be durable provided he continues to find ways to protect himself. He's extremely smart and loves football more than anything, so he's not a dipshit like Jeff George or Jay Cutler. He's a midwest kid, so he just plain understands KC and its community better than other QBs. He has manners-- he's a nice guy, he treats absolutely EVERYBODY with respect. He avoids controversy and anything that distracts from football. He's made of stuff that takes curses and tells them to go **** themselves. Even when he's lying on a field with his kneecap on the side of his leg, it gets snapped back into place and the doctors say, "He was just born with this gumby-like skeletal system... what would be a season ending injury for most guys is going to be nothing in terms of recovery time for him."

But now we even drafted him into a setup that has Reid and Veach on staff? Think about the best QBs in the NFL right now and the relationship they have with their coaching staffs and front office. Tom Brady can't claim he's had support or that Belichick would give two shits what he thinks about who the team should draft. Rodgers is an asshole, but he's also getting ****ed by his own team right now. O'Brien is probably nice to Watson and a decent QB coach, but he's an idiot in charge who is ****ing over his QB's career. Russell Wilson's GM has basically tried to kill him these many years, and it isn't until recently that Russell finally rose above it and they're finally starting to invest in an OL and weapons, but only incrementally. I guess about the only example I can think of where a QB's relationship with his HC/GM comes close to being as symbiotic as Mahomes' is would be Sean Payton to Drew Brees.

Like, it would be fine if Veach/Reid were just good at their jobs while not being assholes to Mahomes. That's already better than 99% of the league. And it would be fine if Mahomes were just like, "Meh, they're in charge, let's just go play some football." But Christ... Mahomes and the people in charge even THINK alike! And this kid is under 25 years old!

Before April of 2017 I would have been happy with the franchise just TRYING to draft a first round QB. If he busted, I would have still supported the move. The fact that he hit was even better. But... all this stuff on this list of good Mahomes traits is PERFECTION. I would have been over the moon to learn that our new QB possessed only the smallest number of traits necessary to win a Super Bowl. But instead we got the best damn combination of traits with the best possible coaching staff and GM. And they're ALL on the same page.

Mahomes isn't done surprising us all yet, either. You think, "Okay, Mahomes, you honestly can't get any better." But he's going to do something else that makes him MORE perfect. I don't know what it is yet, but I can't wait to find out.

That's kind of why I slightly teared up a bit.

You know. I STILL wake up and am like "wow the Chiefs have Mahomes and are the best team in the league." It's just all still so surreal. It's awesome.

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Ubeja Vontell 05-01-2020 04:51 PM

I can see this....

Mahomes
CEH
Kelce
Hill
Hardman
Watkins

....being there with those 50's Rams,those Kurt Warner Rams those 60's Chargers, those Dan Fouts Chargers, when it comes to offensive fire power. Hell, Colts with HOFers to be Johnny U, Lenny Moore, Ray Berry, John Mackey.

Easy 6 05-01-2020 05:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hoover (Post 14946715)
Going to wear #25

He should be respectful and not, JC was a treasure around here

KC2004 05-01-2020 05:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Easy 6 (Post 14947649)
He should be respectful and not, JC was a treasure around here


“I still feel like I can play ball and still keep up with the young people," said Charles, per James Palmer of the NFL Network. “Why Denver? I always wanted to play for Denver growing up," added Charles when asked why he chose the Broncos, via Paul Klee of the Colorado Springs Gazette.

Charles admitted he wasn't fully healthy last season, per Nicki Jhabvala of the Denver Post, saying, "I just wasn't ready last year."

As for his feelings toward the Kansas City Chiefs, Charles said, "It's behind me. ... They say it's a business, but it's personal as well. It is what is," per Jhabvala.


I like JC but his number isn't exactly sacred. The only numbers available for RB's was 25,29,37,39,46.

Chris Meck 05-01-2020 05:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 14946820)
I've already heard the story about Veach sending the text to Mahomes. But for some reason just now when I read it, I actually got a little misty-eyed. Just a bit.

I think the way nfl.com guy wrote this story is what did it. It was the realization that just when I thought Mahomes couldn't be any more perfect of a QB, he's also got this bizarre ESP going with our goddamn GM.

So not only is he the most ridiculous examples of arm talent the NFL has ever seen, but he's gutsy and already one of the best locker room leaders at the QB position in the league. He's also well-built and not one of those stickboy QBs like RGIII or Teddy Bridgewater, so we know he's going to be durable provided he continues to find ways to protect himself. He's extremely smart and loves football more than anything, so he's not a dipshit like Jeff George or Jay Cutler. He's a midwest kid, so he just plain understands KC and its community better than other QBs. He has manners-- he's a nice guy, he treats absolutely EVERYBODY with respect. He avoids controversy and anything that distracts from football. He's made of stuff that takes curses and tells them to go **** themselves. Even when he's lying on a field with his kneecap on the side of his leg, it gets snapped back into place and the doctors say, "He was just born with this gumby-like skeletal system... what would be a season ending injury for most guys is going to be nothing in terms of recovery time for him."

But now we even drafted him into a setup that has Reid and Veach on staff? Think about the best QBs in the NFL right now and the relationship they have with their coaching staffs and front office. Tom Brady can't claim he's had support or that Belichick would give two shits what he thinks about who the team should draft. Rodgers is an asshole, but he's also getting ****ed by his own team right now. O'Brien is probably nice to Watson and a decent QB coach, but he's an idiot in charge who is ****ing over his QB's career. Russell Wilson's GM has basically tried to kill him these many years, and it isn't until recently that Russell finally rose above it and they're finally starting to invest in an OL and weapons, but only incrementally. I guess about the only example I can think of where a QB's relationship with his HC/GM comes close to being as symbiotic as Mahomes' is would be Sean Payton to Drew Brees.

Like, it would be fine if Veach/Reid were just good at their jobs while not being assholes to Mahomes. That's already better than 99% of the league. And it would be fine if Mahomes were just like, "Meh, they're in charge, let's just go play some football." But Christ... Mahomes and the people in charge even THINK alike! And this kid is under 25 years old!

Before April of 2017 I would have been happy with the franchise just TRYING to draft a first round QB. If he busted, I would have still supported the move. The fact that he hit was even better. But... all this stuff on this list of good Mahomes traits is PERFECTION. I would have been over the moon to learn that our new QB possessed only the smallest number of traits necessary to win a Super Bowl. But instead we got the best damn combination of traits with the best possible coaching staff and GM. And they're ALL on the same page.

Mahomes isn't done surprising us all yet, either. You think, "Okay, Mahomes, you honestly can't get any better." But he's going to do something else that makes him MORE perfect. I don't know what it is yet, but I can't wait to find out.

That's kind of why I slightly teared up a bit.


It was all worth it, it really was.

I wasn't here for the 60-70's, but I was here for 1980-2018.

All of it, worth it in the end.

It's glorious.

MMXcalibur 05-01-2020 05:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 14946820)
I've already heard the story about Veach sending the text to Mahomes. But for some reason just now when I read it, I actually got a little misty-eyed. Just a bit.

I think the way nfl.com guy wrote this story is what did it. It was the realization that just when I thought Mahomes couldn't be any more perfect of a QB, he's also got this bizarre ESP going with our goddamn GM.

So not only is he the most ridiculous examples of arm talent the NFL has ever seen, but he's gutsy and already one of the best locker room leaders at the QB position in the league. He's also well-built and not one of those stickboy QBs like RGIII or Teddy Bridgewater, so we know he's going to be durable provided he continues to find ways to protect himself. He's extremely smart and loves football more than anything, so he's not a dipshit like Jeff George or Jay Cutler. He's a midwest kid, so he just plain understands KC and its community better than other QBs. He has manners-- he's a nice guy, he treats absolutely EVERYBODY with respect. He avoids controversy and anything that distracts from football. He's made of stuff that takes curses and tells them to go **** themselves. Even when he's lying on a field with his kneecap on the side of his leg, it gets snapped back into place and the doctors say, "He was just born with this gumby-like skeletal system... what would be a season ending injury for most guys is going to be nothing in terms of recovery time for him."

But now we even drafted him into a setup that has Reid and Veach on staff? Think about the best QBs in the NFL right now and the relationship they have with their coaching staffs and front office. Tom Brady can't claim he's had support or that Belichick would give two shits what he thinks about who the team should draft. Rodgers is an asshole, but he's also getting ****ed by his own team right now. O'Brien is probably nice to Watson and a decent QB coach, but he's an idiot in charge who is ****ing over his QB's career. Russell Wilson's GM has basically tried to kill him these many years, and it isn't until recently that Russell finally rose above it and they're finally starting to invest in an OL and weapons, but only incrementally. I guess about the only example I can think of where a QB's relationship with his HC/GM comes close to being as symbiotic as Mahomes' is would be Sean Payton to Drew Brees.

Like, it would be fine if Veach/Reid were just good at their jobs while not being assholes to Mahomes. That's already better than 99% of the league. And it would be fine if Mahomes were just like, "Meh, they're in charge, let's just go play some football." But Christ... Mahomes and the people in charge even THINK alike! And this kid is under 25 years old!

Before April of 2017 I would have been happy with the franchise just TRYING to draft a first round QB. If he busted, I would have still supported the move. The fact that he hit was even better. But... all this stuff on this list of good Mahomes traits is PERFECTION. I would have been over the moon to learn that our new QB possessed only the smallest number of traits necessary to win a Super Bowl. But instead we got the best damn combination of traits with the best possible coaching staff and GM. And they're ALL on the same page.

Mahomes isn't done surprising us all yet, either. You think, "Okay, Mahomes, you honestly can't get any better." But he's going to do something else that makes him MORE perfect. I don't know what it is yet, but I can't wait to find out.

That's kind of why I slightly teared up a bit.

I still have to stop myself during the day when I think that the Kansas City Chiefs are Super Bow champions and we have an outstanding 15 more years with Mahomes at the helm.

I still think the Chiefs Super Bowl Champions towel hanging next to my bed is God ****ing around with real-life Photoshop.

BlackOp 05-01-2020 06:25 PM

Even if the Chiefs had traded up to take Ruggs...I dont think he would have impacted the over-all offense like CEH will.

I really cant think of any player that would have... especially as a rookie.

Even if Murry or a top CB fell....on a game to game basis, CEH will affect the outcome more.

I'm usually pretty meh about rookies in year one....but Helaire is more talented than Hunt.

I'm fully expecting the offense to resemble the 2018 team....which averaged around 10 more points a game when Hunt was playing.

JakeF 05-01-2020 06:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlackOp (Post 14947782)
Even if the Chiefs had traded up to take Ruggs...I dont think he would have impacted the over-all offense like CEH will.

I really cant think of any player that would have... especially as a rookie.

Even if Murry or a top CB fell....on a game to game basis, CEH will affect the outcome more.

I'm usually pretty meh about rookies in year one....but Helaire is more talented than Hunt.

I'm fully expecting the offense to resemble the 2018 team....which averaged around 10 more points a game when Hunt was playing.

A great CB would have been of more value for the entire team than an RB.

Fournette/Damien and a great CB

is better than a

Great RB/Damien

Easy 6 05-01-2020 06:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC2004 (Post 14947713)
“I still feel like I can play ball and still keep up with the young people," said Charles, per James Palmer of the NFL Network. “Why Denver? I always wanted to play for Denver growing up," added Charles when asked why he chose the Broncos, via Paul Klee of the Colorado Springs Gazette.

Charles admitted he wasn't fully healthy last season, per Nicki Jhabvala of the Denver Post, saying, "I just wasn't ready last year."

As for his feelings toward the Kansas City Chiefs, Charles said, "It's behind me. ... They say it's a business, but it's personal as well. It is what is," per Jhabvala.


I like JC but his number isn't exactly sacred. The only numbers available for RB's was 25,29,37,39,46.

Meh, I forgive the most exciting back in franchise history... he gave you hope every single sunday

His feelings were hurt and he just wanted to keep playing

BlackOp 05-01-2020 06:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JakeF (Post 14947805)
A great CB would have been of more value for the entire team than an RB.

Fournette/Damien and a great CB

is better than a

Great RB/Damien

No...Fournette isn't as naturally talented as Helaire.

You'll see when the games start....Reid getting this guy in space is going to be amazing.

I'm not sure what the fixation is with Founette...his own team doesn't even want to keep him....and that's after blowing the 4th over-all pick. He isn't the right style of RB for this offense anyway....

JakeF 05-01-2020 06:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlackOp (Post 14947817)
No...Fournette isn't as naturally talented as Helaire.

You'll see when the games start....Reid getting this guy in space is going to be amazing.

I'm not sure want the fixation is with Founette...his own team doesn't even want to keep him....and that's after blowing the 4th over-all pick. He isn't the right style of RB for this offense anyway....

Never claimed fournette was as good as CEH.

Fournettes power could have forced a safety down into the box though. That opens up the deep 3rd for our speed to destroy. A great CB makes our defense much better.

BlackOp 05-01-2020 06:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JakeF (Post 14947823)
Never claimed fournette was as good as CEH.

Fournettes power could have forced a safety down into the box though. That opens up the deep 3rd for our speed to destroy. A great CB makes our defense much better.

What do think CEH is going to force?

Teams are going to have to gamble...Williams is a serviceable starting RB but he isn't influencing opponents game plans.

Nobody is saying "we need to stop Williams in order to have a chance".

Chiefshrink 05-01-2020 06:56 PM

He is Tyreek, Darren, and Sanders all wrapped in CEH.:drool:

duncan_idaho 05-01-2020 06:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JakeF (Post 14947805)
A great CB would have been of more value for the entire team than an RB.

Fournette/Damien and a great CB

is better than a

Great RB/Damien


What great CB, though? That guy wasn’t there at 32.

Leonard Fournette is an oft-injured average RB and a bad fit in KC’s offense. No thanks.

I’ll take CEH and Sneed over any combination of Fournette and the CB available at 32.

JakeF 05-01-2020 07:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 14947855)
What great CB, though? That guy wasn’t there at 32.

Leonard Fournette is an oft-injured average RB and a bad fit in KC’s offense. No thanks.

I’ll take CEH and Sneed over any combination of Fournette and the CB available at 32.

I was responding to BlackOPs post about a hypothetical "if" a great CB had fallen.

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlackOp (Post 14947782)
Even if the Chiefs had traded up to take Ruggs...I dont think he would have impacted the over-all offense like CEH will.

I really cant think of any player that would have... especially as a rookie.

Even if Murry or a top CB fell....on a game to game basis, CEH will affect the outcome more.

I'm usually pretty meh about rookies in year one....but Helaire is more talented than Hunt.

I'm fully expecting the offense to resemble the 2018 team....which averaged around 10 more points a game when Hunt was playing.


ForeverIowan 05-01-2020 07:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JakeF (Post 14947805)
A great CB would have been of more value for the entire team than an RB.

Fournette/Damien and a great CB

is better than a

Great RB/Damien

Weren't you the guy that claimed having a great running back on our roster made our offense worse because it takes the ball out of Mahomes' hands?

JohnnyHammersticks 05-01-2020 08:57 PM

It's obvious CEH is a really smart kid. Very well-spoken and poised for someone that age. If/when he does what most of us think he's capable of doing in this offense, he could see a ton of endorsement money in addition to what the Chiefs pay him. He's got the "it" factor.

JohnnyHammersticks 05-01-2020 08:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ForeverIowan (Post 14947966)
Weren't you the guy that claimed having a great running back on our roster made our offense worse because it takes the ball out of Mahomes' hands?

You should see his work in game threads. :facepalm:

ChiefsFanatic 05-01-2020 09:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC2004 (Post 14947713)
“I still feel like I can play ball and still keep up with the young people," said Charles, per James Palmer of the NFL Network. “Why Denver? I always wanted to play for Denver growing up," added Charles when asked why he chose the Broncos, via Paul Klee of the Colorado Springs Gazette.

Charles admitted he wasn't fully healthy last season, per Nicki Jhabvala of the Denver Post, saying, "I just wasn't ready last year."

As for his feelings toward the Kansas City Chiefs, Charles said, "It's behind me. ... They say it's a business, but it's personal as well. It is what is," per Jhabvala.


I like JC but his number isn't exactly sacred. The only numbers available for RB's was 25,29,37,39,46.

I am pretty sure that 37 is absolutely not an option.

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OrtonsPiercedTaint 05-01-2020 09:19 PM

Chiefs Endzone Hero before he even signs his rookie deal

RealSNR 05-01-2020 10:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JakeF (Post 14947805)
A great CB would have been of more value for the entire team than an RB.

Fournette/Damien and a great CB

is better than a

Great RB/Damien

**** you.

suzzer99 05-01-2020 11:29 PM

Lol at picking up a great CB at 32. Could it happen? Sure. Is it likely? No. Elite CBs need elite measurables. And those go high.

Lol Fournette also. Bleh.

Why Not? 05-02-2020 06:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OrtonsPiercedTaint (Post 14948135)
Chiefs Endzone Hero before he even signs his rookie deal

I see what you did there.

CervezaChill 05-02-2020 07:17 AM

People might not realize it now but god forbid if Mahomes goes down for 5-6 games in the middle of a season, CEH might just be the difference between a 2-4 and 4-2 stretch in those games. All the back up has to do is hand him the ball. Hill, Hardman will always create space for a running back, no matter who the QB.

Hoover 05-02-2020 08:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 14946820)
I've already heard the story about Veach sending the text to Mahomes. But for some reason just now when I read it, I actually got a little misty-eyed. Just a bit.

I think the way nfl.com guy wrote this story is what did it. It was the realization that just when I thought Mahomes couldn't be any more perfect of a QB, he's also got this bizarre ESP going with our goddamn GM.

So not only is he the most ridiculous examples of arm talent the NFL has ever seen, but he's gutsy and already one of the best locker room leaders at the QB position in the league. He's also well-built and not one of those stickboy QBs like RGIII or Teddy Bridgewater, so we know he's going to be durable provided he continues to find ways to protect himself. He's extremely smart and loves football more than anything, so he's not a dipshit like Jeff George or Jay Cutler. He's a midwest kid, so he just plain understands KC and its community better than other QBs. He has manners-- he's a nice guy, he treats absolutely EVERYBODY with respect. He avoids controversy and anything that distracts from football. He's made of stuff that takes curses and tells them to go **** themselves. Even when he's lying on a field with his kneecap on the side of his leg, it gets snapped back into place and the doctors say, "He was just born with this gumby-like skeletal system... what would be a season ending injury for most guys is going to be nothing in terms of recovery time for him."

But now we even drafted him into a setup that has Reid and Veach on staff? Think about the best QBs in the NFL right now and the relationship they have with their coaching staffs and front office. Tom Brady can't claim he's had support or that Belichick would give two shits what he thinks about who the team should draft. Rodgers is an asshole, but he's also getting ****ed by his own team right now. O'Brien is probably nice to Watson and a decent QB coach, but he's an idiot in charge who is ****ing over his QB's career. Russell Wilson's GM has basically tried to kill him these many years, and it isn't until recently that Russell finally rose above it and they're finally starting to invest in an OL and weapons, but only incrementally. I guess about the only example I can think of where a QB's relationship with his HC/GM comes close to being as symbiotic as Mahomes' is would be Sean Payton to Drew Brees.

Like, it would be fine if Veach/Reid were just good at their jobs while not being assholes to Mahomes. That's already better than 99% of the league. And it would be fine if Mahomes were just like, "Meh, they're in charge, let's just go play some football." But Christ... Mahomes and the people in charge even THINK alike! And this kid is under 25 years old!

Before April of 2017 I would have been happy with the franchise just TRYING to draft a first round QB. If he busted, I would have still supported the move. The fact that he hit was even better. But... all this stuff on this list of good Mahomes traits is PERFECTION. I would have been over the moon to learn that our new QB possessed only the smallest number of traits necessary to win a Super Bowl. But instead we got the best damn combination of traits with the best possible coaching staff and GM. And they're ALL on the same page.

Mahomes isn't done surprising us all yet, either. You think, "Okay, Mahomes, you honestly can't get any better." But he's going to do something else that makes him MORE perfect. I don't know what it is yet, but I can't wait to find out.

That's kind of why I slightly teared up a bit.

Great post, but I don't think Pat has ESP with Veach.

I think what we are seeing here is great communication between a star player and the GM. I guess what I'm saying is I doubt that was the first time Veach and Mahomes discussed draft prospects. Pat probably knew the 4-5 players that the Chiefs were going to target if they stayed at 32, so when the time to pick came and the Chiefs were not able to trade down, I'm sure CEH was pretty obvious to Pat.

The relationship is still to be celebrated. And the credit, I feel at least, belongs to Veach for having the ability to be comfortable with his star player to let him in. It means he has complete trust in Pat. Which is awesome, and while it seems obvious to us as we see it, trust me, I don't think Dorsey or Pioli would have this type of relationship with Mahomes.

BossChief 05-02-2020 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Hoover (Post 14948494)
Great post, but I don't think Pat has ESP with Veach.

I think what we are seeing here is great communication between a star player and the GM. I guess what I'm saying is I doubt that was the first time Veach and Mahomes discussed draft prospects. Pat probably knew the 4-5 players that the Chiefs were going to target if they stayed at 32, so when the time to pick came and the Chiefs were not able to trade down, I'm sure CEH was pretty obvious to Pat.

The relationship is still to be celebrated. And the credit, I feel at least, belongs to Veach for having the ability to be comfortable with his star player to let him in. It means he has complete trust in Pat. Which is awesome, and while it seems obvious to us as we see it, trust me, I don't think Dorsey or Pioli would have this type of relationship with Mahomes.

Veach did a post first round interview that he said moving down wasn’t worth it (indicating they had offers to do so) and that CEH was the guy they targeted.

Andy Reid said CEH is a future HOF quality player.

Hoover 05-02-2020 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 14948779)
Veach did a post first round interview that he said moving down wasn’t worth it (indicating they had offers to do so) and that CEH was the guy they targeted.

Andy Reid said CEH is a future HOF quality player.

Am aware.

My point is that Andy and Veach probably kept Pat in the loop on offensive players they liked early that's all. I think it's a great pick. I just don't think Pat guessed on who the pick was, I think he knew based on how the draft fell.

RealSNR 05-04-2020 08:55 PM

JakeF apparently doesn't like it when you say "**** you" to him LMAO


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