Dak turns downs 5 year 175 million deal from Cowboys
 

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Dak Prescott turned down a 5-year, $175 million contract offer from the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Cowboys?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Cowboys</a> according to <a href="https://twitter.com/CSimmsQB?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@CSimmsQB</a> <br><br>It would&#39;ve made him the highest paid QB in history.<br><br>Prescott instead is seeking “north of $45M” in the final season of his new deal, reportedly. <a href="https://t.co/IBYCVaxVk7">pic.twitter.com/IBYCVaxVk7</a></p>&mdash; Dov Kleiman (@NFL_DovKleiman) <a href="https://twitter.com/NFL_DovKleiman/status/1263494399192899584?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 21, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Jesus what a moron.

Well, we need to see the guaranteed money first, but it still looks like a bad decision.

i hate this guy

**** him, tag him this year and get rid of him next year. Cmon Jerry, you and everyone else know Dak is not worth that money. Don't **** the whole league over by granting this prima donna his overinflated sense of himself. If I were Jerry, I'd take it as an insult, that this kid thinks I'm an idiot and can get fleeced. I'd call his bullshit and say "Do you think I'm a ****ing idiot?" These kids need to get slapped down. 75% of Patrick Mahomes, isn't Patrick Mahomes. Owners need to start understanding that these Dak like quarterbacks need to start being held to check or this inflation is going to get much much worse.

The fact that there's no mention of guaranteed money should tell you what you need to know about who leaked it and why.

What a dumbass

As Chris Simms explained (kinda odd this is hitting the newswire now, as it was a comment he said in passing about 2 weeks ago) this issue isn't the total dollar figure. It's the structure of the contract. Dak wants the final year of his contract to rival what a new contract would look like 5 years from now. Hence the 45M+.

Is he even a top 10 QB? I think there are at least 10 I take over him.

Isn’t that just unheard of thinking? Not sure I’ve seen a contract that takes inflation into account.

This pussy loser is named Dakota. LOL

He’d be on a gravy train with biscuit wheels with that deal.

He had 5300 total yards and 33 touchdowns last year. He's not Mahomes but there aren't 10 QBs better.

Mahomes
Wilson
Rodgers
Watson
Brees
Jackson
Wentz

and then....probably Dak Prescott, as far as the best QB's in football in 2020.

That's reeruned. He's butthurt he's getting his money too soon? What?

pre-madonna? What is that? Debbie Harry? Stevie Nicks?

Alex Smith 2.0

Some could argue to put Ryan there too.

I just don’t see that money for the 7th or 8th best QB. A healthy Big Ben May even be as valuable.

Patrick Mahomes
Aaron Rodgers
Drew Brees
Russell Wilson
Tom Brady
Lamar Jackson
Deshaun Watson
Ben Roethlisberger
Matt Ryan
Dak Prescott

I can think of at least five or six QBs that I would take over him. I think he's in that Deshaun Watson, Ben Roethlisberger and Matt Ryan area.

I'd like to see Stafford on a team with some actual talent around him.

Dallas is ****ing reeruned for even offering this.

Apologies, fixed.

They don’t have a choice and Dak knows it. He’s got them right where he wants them.

I’d go get Dalton and tell Dak to **** himself... edit lol, they can now tell Dak to go **** himself

Their choice is to tell him to **** off and play with Dalton a year.

Draft, and give it another shot.

Dak isn't worth that amount of cap.

Yes. In hindsight they should've told Prescott to **** off and used the money to keep their defense together.

Andy Dalton is already signed at 1/$7MM as Dak's backup.

Heh, caught that about 30 seconds before you... just took my synapses a second to connect

$45M? LMAO

What's he thinking?

It's good to see this place still has fire when it comes to QB discussion.

We still feel echos of the past........

With the addition of Hopkins, I bet Murray is looked upon as a top 5 QB by the end of the year.

Dalton has never had even close to the year Dak had last year.

I think Dalton will play pretty good in Dallas.

That's going to be the going rate for franchise QBs in 5 years.

Sure but look where he played, the top to bottom worst franchise in the league... I’d take my chances before overpaying Alex Smith 2.0

That makes a fair amount of sense.

But if someone flops that contract down in front of me I probably sign it. I mean come on. Unless his arm falls off or he shits the bed he’ll probably play it out.

FFS Kirk YOU LIKE THAT Cousins, who is not what I’d call good, didn’t play his way out of town on his contract.

Unless the structure of the contract has language about Dak ****ing a sheep in Jerry’s office every Tuesday night or something extreme like that, I fail to see how that offer isn’t good for Dak.

I know I know... **** the billionaire owners. I get it. But I just don’t think the 10th best QB deserves to make top 3 money such that the value never goes out of date as the contract ages

The problem is that NFL QB contracts aren't given out based on "how good you are compared to this guy". They're more or less "Next man up, next highest paid QB".

Mahomes will be the highest paid QB until the next guy gets paid.

Hell, there was a time when Derek Carr was the highest paid player in NFL history.

Right now it's Dak's turn.

Well, I guess if you believe in yourself and value yourself way up there, I guess turn it down. But holy **** dude...

Sure, but that's not how NFL QB contracts go though. Dak is playing by the rules that NFL Owners/GM's set themselves up for.

Agreed, but at some point that wheel will stop spinning.

Look, the numbers suggest that he's worth 5/$165-175MM. He turns 27 this Summer. There is NOTHING to suggest that he should get a penny more than $35MM/yr, and the 'Boys would be shit crazy to pay him any more than that. I get what he's doing, but it's totally unrealistic given the current market. Not only that, Dallas has a guy they can plug in TODAY who is a high level backup and can adequately get you through until the next season, if necessary.

The Bengals weren't a terrible team before a couple years ago. They were on par with the Cowboys. He had AJ Green and only twice had over 4000 yards and once over 30 touchdowns. His best numbers are 4200 yards and 30 touchdowns and 20 INTs. Dak had 4900 passing yards, 30 touchdowns and 11 INTs. That's significantly better.

Yeah, but someone is gonna have to draw a line somewhere. That shit is unsustainable with a salary cap. And salary cap is good for the league to keep it competitive.

And with rookie contracts being reasonable these days, and seemingly more decent QBs coming out of the draft these days than there used to be, you would be better off just drafting another one every year than paying top dollar to a dude that is pretty ****ing replaceable. Spend that money on the rest of your roster.

Unreal.

He's offered THAT contract and refuses?!? He's arguably not even worth that type of contract.

If I was the Cowboys, I would try and flip him now for picks and just play Andy Dalton (who will look a lot better in that offense than he did in Cincy the last few years) and draft a QB in 2021 to learn under Andy, preparing to take over in 2022.

If not, play him under the franchise tag this year and trade him in the off-season (or let him walk for a comp pick if you don't feel like dealing with the headache or you think he might play another year under the tag since it goes up significantly in the 2nd year) and then followed with same scenario above (draft 2021 QB, play Dalton 2021, rookie QB takes over in 2022).

I get Dak trying to get as much as he can while he can get it, but his numbers on the field and his playoff performance are not compatible with that contract.

Dallas really just needs to tell him and his agent to **** off at this point. We offered you a fair deal and you turned it down. Moving on . . . . . .

This

**** Dak

He is dumb as hell and will end up on the outside looking in being greedy

On top of all that it's dumb as **** to be asking for 45 million in the final season, you ask for the big number up front otherwise you get cut in year 5 unless that is his plan

Prescott really only wants a 4 year deal, the Cowboys are pushing for that 5th year because they think by then he'll be like the 8th highest paid QB...so he's pushing back that he wants a number that keeps him top 5...

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Per source familiar with Prescott negotiations the report about a 5/175m offer with desire for $45 million in final year isn&#39;t accurate. Have been no meaningful discussions for some time between the sides so seems as if they are as far apart as they were a few months ago</p>&mdash; Jason_OTC (@Jason_OTC) <a href="https://twitter.com/Jason_OTC/status/1263523331107696640?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 21, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">To clarify any recent speculation on Dak Prescott’s contract negotiations: there have been no discussions on other scenarios other than the Cowboys wanting a longer deal and Prescott wanting a shorter deal, per source.</p>&mdash; Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) <a href="https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1263537030480433152?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 21, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Rapoport and Schefter both saying this isn't true. Still a matter of Dak wanting 4 years and Cowboys wanting 5.

Yeah, for it being a business, there a lot of emotion in contract signings.

Particularly with QB, where there's just one starter per team, if you don't make your guy the highest paid when he's up for negotiation, you are signalling that you aren't buying the best available. Even if it's accurate, you don't want to send that message, and the players don't want to hear that message.

It's an analog to the mishegas in Green Bay picking a QB high when ARod is still around. Even as the top dog ages, you have to pretend he's going to play forever.

As much as he's taking shit if Prescott got to the open market he'd get the contract he wants.

I don't give a **** what his "stats" were. He isn't winning a title, so I think they are dumb as **** for even offering that. Barely a top 10 QB...if that

AGAIN..Don't.....give....a...shit...how many "yards" he had.

I think you hit the nail on the head. It's hard to imagine ANYONE would turn down a contract like this, unless very little of it is actually guaranteed.

There is no way I'm doing this if I'm the Cowboys. Being saddled with this player would do more harm than good.

Even with those gaudy stats the Cowboys still only managed 8-8 and failed to win the worst division in the NFL. He's only won one playoff game in his entire career. Blame Jason Garrett all you want but they're effectively replacing him with the same damn milquetoast mediocrity in Mike McCarthey so shit won't be getting better on that front, and now adding that insane contract on top of it all? Just doesn't make sense.

The Cowboys were 0-8 when trailing at the half. 0-7 when trailing into the fourth quarter.

Are they going to do any better than him?

Prescott would get the contract he wants on the open market, if they were to walk on him that would be like saying because I got a 7 that isn't good enough till I get a 10...you then die old and alone because you never find it.

Because he isn't Mahomes doesn't mean he shouldn't get paid, the dude is better than any QB we had for 40 years until Mahomes came a long.

Dak is bitching about making $35+ million five years from now because though he would be paid like a top 3 QB now, in that time he'll be closer to the 10th or so highest paid QB, which is no different than the contract extension process that Rodgers, Luck, Manning, and other top QBs have gone through before Dak.

Why is Dak so ****ing special that the game gets to be changed now that he's up to bat? If he's just playing the game the way it's set up and he gets top money that he doesn't deserve because it's just his turn, then why does he think he gets to be different than the other QBs and have a deal that doesn't show its age by the end of its span?

I'm not advocating for adopting a so-called league maximum offer like the NBA has, but this is getting kind of ridiculous.

Your starting RB is often on a day 2/3/undrafted rookie contract, and they're expected to account for sometimes upwards of 20% of a team's total offensive yardage output. They take the most punishment and wind up a brain in a jar if they manage to stick around the league for 7+ years, and they're told, "Sorry, we can't offer you that nice longterm extension. You're a RB." The best they can hope for is stringing together multiple seasons of fantasy football-relevant production and getting on the goddamn Campbell's Chunky Soup can.

The owners should have done something about THAT shit in the CBA.

He has leverage, I don't blame him to be honest. It's not like he made 30 mill off his rookie deal like some of the other guys.

PMII
Brees
Wilson
Brady
Watson
Rodgers
Ryan
Tannehill
Wentz
Murray

I put Wentz and Murray over Prescott. And even Brady's deflated balls with a pop gun arm at this point is better than Prescott.

You are clearly forgetting Lock. Please re-read the last several months of the Donkey thread to refresh your memory on how elite his play has been.

Who would pay him that, right now?

Right this second? Possibly the Colts.

Mother****ers real name is Rayne. Lmfao. Wtf?

His stats are misleading anyways. He plays terrible when things are going bad around him. In 8 losses in 2019 he had 8 TDs, and 7 INTs.

If he hits the market in a year?

Saints
Raiders
Broncos
Tampa
Pittsburgh
Jacksonville
Chicago


There are a lot of teams with old QB's nearing retirement or bad QB situations that would line up to pay money.

Also if you are going to bust on Prescott then list Carson Wentz you lose credibility, dude gets hurt walking down the hall.

Marvin Lewis was his coach though.

True, but I don't think that he ever had a comparable supporting cast around him either.

Sure, the only thing positive about Prescott is h3 can take a beating.

So put Teddy Bridgewater on there. Taysom Hill. Joe Burrow. Matt Moore. Anyone but Dak Prescott.

Yes and no.

Because if it was just the final year of the deal that he was irritated about, they'd end up settling in on a 4 year deal instead.

It's an AAV issue if you really boil it down. Prescott would take less in year 5 if the AAV (and up front money) was high enough. He's essentially saying that the $35 million AAV is too low.

And let's be honest here - is Dak likely to repeat a 300 yard/gm season with any regularity going forward? He's smart to try to leverage as much out of this last season as possible. He had an excellent platform season and he's going to do everything he can to capitalize on that. Afterall, he's played 4 years on a 3rd rounder's deal - he's been wildly underpaid for awhile now.

And the Cowboys have done nothing to set up a plan B behind him, so he's got Jerrah by the nesmonds here. He's not gonna get tossed over the side for Cam Newton.

Dak can sell some anxiety concessions

There's a lot of stupid going on there. First for the cowboys to even offer him that much and 2nd for Dak turning that down. The ****

Dalton was never anything more than AJ Green's Jugs machine.

Dalton spends the last 3-4 years as a backup but/for Green inflating his numbers. And even at that, he wasn't all that good. Dalton is as JAG as they get.

Phillip Rivers just got $25 million from the Colts.

Yes, there are plenty of teams that would give him $35 million/yr for 5 years over his prime. Would it be a smart decision for them? Hard to say - really depends on their team. But if he were a free agent, he'd get something approaching that. Maybe $33 million, maybe $37 million, but there is enough cap space out there that somebody would give him that.

You’re welcome to your opinion, but paying second tier guys first tier money is a surefire way to hamstring your franchise for years to come IMO

You can point to stats all you want, but Dalton is by far the better pure passer

You do realize if they don't pay him they're flushing all of the current roster talent right?

Not sure I follow... you mean because Dalton couldn’t maximize their talent as well as Dak?

Andy Dalton is a scrub.

It’s not stupid to ask for it. It is stupid to walk away from life money over what your deal looks like 5 years from now. If he’s worth $45m then he’d probably just want a new agreement and if he’s not they’ll just cut him so not sure I understand his logic?