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Mecca 06-29-2020 12:08 PM

So Akrum Wadley says unflattering things about his time at Iowa
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Statement from Akrum Wadley about his time in the Iowa Football program via the Facebook page of Pre-Postgame CEO Robert T Green. Post also includes screen grabs of electronic communications with staff members Broderick Binns and Chris White<a href="https://t.co/Mk8N8nSbeP">https://t.co/Mk8N8nSbeP</a> <a href="https://t.co/8oMtXqNqDx">pic.twitter.com/8oMtXqNqDx</a></p>&mdash; Rob Howe (@RobHoweHN) <a href="https://twitter.com/RobHoweHN/status/1277589381969334275?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 29, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

If you don't want to read all that the basis of it is...

Wadley states Brian Ferentz called him a “dumb mother ****er” while on his way to take an exam.

Wadley also states Kirk Ferentz gave him note cards on what to say in press conferences. He also states he turned to alcohol to cope with the constant put downs by the coaching staff. He also states Kirk Ferentz threatened to take away his meal card. Kirk followed through on this and Wadley had to call his mom to get a Domino’s pizza.

Wadley states Brian Ferentz wanted someone on the OLine to injure Reggie Spearman because he hated him and wished he wasn’t there.

Buehler445 06-29-2020 12:13 PM

Ferentz and Belicheat are Butt buddies. This doesn’t surprise me.

Mecca 06-29-2020 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 15043116)
Ferentz and Belicheat are Butt buddies. This doesn’t surprise me.

Dude that comes off the worst in that story is Brian Ferentz and he seems to have a history of being a shithead.

George Liquor 06-29-2020 12:17 PM

Wasn't Kirk Ferentz always rumored to be a candidate for the Chiefs HC position, before we got Andy?

God, dodged a bullet there.

Mecca 06-29-2020 12:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BDj23 (Post 15043132)
Wasn't Kirk Ferentz always rumored to be a candidate for the Chiefs HC position, before we got Andy?

God, dodged a bullet there.

Apparently there's a big story from that program in general few weeks ago that I missed......guess that program is about to burn down.

Iowanian 06-29-2020 12:24 PM

Imagine my surprise to learn that coaches at a high level are hard on their athletes...

I don't buy that any of this is racial, and I've heard far worse accounts from some other programs/sports. Coaches say some pretty terrible shit to white kids to get them to leave their scholarship for the next improvement.

A few weeks ago there was a press conference and I kept hearing that there were accusations but no specifics. When it came out, I got the impression that coaches didn't give the players all of the freedom to "express themselves" as much as they wanted. I guess some of it would depend on context and perception. If you're not used to getting red-assed for mistakes, you're going to take it harder than someone who has been parented/coached hard before.

If Wadley hated it so much, why did he try to get Iowa to recruit his brother?

George Liquor 06-29-2020 12:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 15043137)
Apparently there's a big story from that program in general few weeks ago that I missed......guess that program is about to burn down.

Yeah I seem to recall hearing something about that too, although I don't care at all about Iowa football.

displacedinMN 06-29-2020 12:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BDj23 (Post 15043132)
Wasn't Kirk Ferentz always rumored to be a candidate for the Chiefs HC position, before we got Andy?

God, dodged a bullet there.

KF was rumored a lot 2003 for a lot of positions. He quit looking at the NFL after that.

Mecca 06-29-2020 12:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iowanian (Post 15043139)
Imagine my surprise to learn that coaches at a high level are hard on their athletes...

I don't buy that any of this is racial, and I've heard far worse accounts from some other programs/sports. Coaches say some pretty terrible shit to white kids to get them to leave their scholarship for the next improvement.

A few weeks ago there was a press conference and I kept hearing that there were accusations but no specifics. When it came out, I got the impression that coaches didn't give the players all of the freedom to "express themselves" as much as they wanted. I guess some of it would depend on context and perception. If you're not used to getting red-assed for mistakes, you're going to take it harder than someone who has been parented/coached hard before.

If Wadley hated it so much, why did he try to get Iowa to recruit his brother?

https://www.cbssports.com/college-fo...ithin-program/

Thinking these were what this was about...

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">There are too many racial disparities in the Iowa football program. Black players have been treated unfairly for far too long.</p>&mdash; James Daniels (@jamsdans) <a href="https://twitter.com/jamsdans/status/1269058668663844864?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 6, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="und" dir="ltr"> <a href="https://t.co/Wn25Td7gpz">pic.twitter.com/Wn25Td7gpz</a></p>&mdash; Emmanuel Rugamba (@BooRadd_) <a href="https://twitter.com/BooRadd_/status/1269090150493143041?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 6, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I got so many stories I can talk about and experiences I had and other teammates but this was one of them. <a href="https://t.co/CfK3Ss1TcM">pic.twitter.com/CfK3Ss1TcM</a></p>&mdash; Akrum Wadley (@akrum_wadley) <a href="https://twitter.com/akrum_wadley/status/1269271547291873280?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 6, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Akrum Wadley&#39;s Mom. <a href="https://t.co/CSrn4NcLTC">pic.twitter.com/CSrn4NcLTC</a></p>&mdash; Rob Howe (@RobHoweHN) <a href="https://twitter.com/RobHoweHN/status/1269687858706747394?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 7, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="und" dir="ltr"><a href="https://t.co/pmvKsUETXx">pic.twitter.com/pmvKsUETXx</a></p>&mdash; Jack Kallenberger (@jack_kall1) <a href="https://twitter.com/jack_kall1/status/1269740191717171202?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 7, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>


Yea some of those stories come off far worse than just they were being hard on them....

Pitt Gorilla 06-29-2020 12:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 15043120)
Dude that comes off the worst in that story is Brian Ferentz and he seems to have a history of being a shithead.

He is a complete POS. There is no question about that.

I'll let you all figure out why he wasn't given his walking papers like Doyle.

Demonpenz 06-29-2020 12:33 PM

tear down his statue

BossChief 06-29-2020 12:55 PM

Kinda sounds like a pussy.

ChiefBlueCFC 06-29-2020 01:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 15043154)
https://www.cbssports.com/college-fo...ithin-program/

Thinking these were what this was about...

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">There are too many racial disparities in the Iowa football program. Black players have been treated unfairly for far too long.</p>&mdash; James Daniels (@jamsdans) <a href="https://twitter.com/jamsdans/status/1269058668663844864?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 6, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="und" dir="ltr"> <a href="https://t.co/Wn25Td7gpz">pic.twitter.com/Wn25Td7gpz</a></p>&mdash; Emmanuel Rugamba (@BooRadd_) <a href="https://twitter.com/BooRadd_/status/1269090150493143041?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 6, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I got so many stories I can talk about and experiences I had and other teammates but this was one of them. <a href="https://t.co/CfK3Ss1TcM">pic.twitter.com/CfK3Ss1TcM</a></p>&mdash; Akrum Wadley (@akrum_wadley) <a href="https://twitter.com/akrum_wadley/status/1269271547291873280?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 6, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Akrum Wadley&#39;s Mom. <a href="https://t.co/CSrn4NcLTC">pic.twitter.com/CSrn4NcLTC</a></p>&mdash; Rob Howe (@RobHoweHN) <a href="https://twitter.com/RobHoweHN/status/1269687858706747394?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 7, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="und" dir="ltr"><a href="https://t.co/pmvKsUETXx">pic.twitter.com/pmvKsUETXx</a></p>&mdash; Jack Kallenberger (@jack_kall1) <a href="https://twitter.com/jack_kall1/status/1269740191717171202?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 7, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>


Yea some of those stories come off far worse than just they were being hard on them....

Reading Kallenberger's post on why he quit is pretty infuriating to read. Especially having a couple of people in my family that deal with ADHD...

BWillie 06-29-2020 01:23 PM

Being a shithead to a white person isnt racist. Being a shithead to a black person is automatically racist. The focus should be coaches being shitheads. I've heard far worse from coaches when I played ball in high school. Granted that was 17 or 18 years ago, and Im glad coaches are becoming more player friendly but everything isn't automatically racist.

Titty Meat 06-29-2020 01:30 PM

Not a surprise. **** Iowa.

vailpass 06-29-2020 01:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 15043137)
Apparently there's a big story from that program in general few weeks ago that I missed......guess that program is about to burn down.

Quit making things up.

You don't know your ass from a hole in the ground when it comes to the Iowa program. Stick to suing good people for your fat dumb ass slipping and falling.

Titty Meat 06-29-2020 01:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vailpass (Post 15043300)
Quit making things up.

You don't know your ass from a hole in the ground when it comes to the Iowa program. Stick to suing good people for your fat dumb ass slipping and falling.

LMAO

vailpass 06-29-2020 01:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Titty Meat (Post 15043276)
Not a surprise. **** Iowa.

Not surprised you feel that way considering Iowa has been ****ing Corn hard for the last decade or so.:D

Mecca 06-29-2020 01:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vailpass (Post 15043300)
Quit making things up.

You don't know your ass from a hole in the ground when it comes to the Iowa program. Stick to suing good people for your fat dumb ass slipping and falling.

Man that's tough, I can't imagine why I would think they would have repercussions from a bunch of former players talking.

vailpass 06-29-2020 01:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla (Post 15043157)
He is a complete POS. There is no question about that.

I'll let you all figure out why he wasn't given his walking papers like Doyle.

Stop acting like you know anything about it you clown. Nice work on race baiting using false pretenses.

Pablo 06-29-2020 01:48 PM

Iowas O/U just dipped from 6.5 to 5.5.

vailpass 06-29-2020 01:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 15043308)
Man that's tough, I can't imagine why I would think they would have repercussions from a bunch of former players talking.

You can think whatever you want but stop presenting your sjw dreams as facts. This story is weeks old and you are just now posting it like it's breaking news.

vailpass 06-29-2020 01:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pablo (Post 15043323)
Iowas O/U just dipped from 6.5 to 5.5.

?

Pablo 06-29-2020 01:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vailpass (Post 15043327)
?

Just a middle of the pack win total joke. It's actually 7.5.

vailpass 06-29-2020 01:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iowanian (Post 15043139)
Imagine my surprise to learn that coaches at a high level are hard on their athletes...

I don't buy that any of this is racial, and I've heard far worse accounts from some other programs/sports. Coaches say some pretty terrible shit to white kids to get them to leave their scholarship for the next improvement.

A few weeks ago there was a press conference and I kept hearing that there were accusations but no specifics. When it came out, I got the impression that coaches didn't give the players all of the freedom to "express themselves" as much as they wanted. I guess some of it would depend on context and perception. If you're not used to getting red-assed for mistakes, you're going to take it harder than someone who has been parented/coached hard before.

If Wadley hated it so much, why did he try to get Iowa to recruit his brother?

Yep. There is a former Iowa player, black, who has been an on-air talent for the B1G Network for the last 15 years or so. A couple of weeks ago on the BiG radio show on Sirius XM he explained exactly that. He is from a well-to-do upbringing, used to being around white peoples (all his words), and isn't intimidated by being in that environment.

He said a lot of black players come into the program from the hood, not used to being disciplined in the way it takes to play for Iowa. Said the Iowa program isn't built on 5-start talent, it's built on the ethic of team before individual, playing for each other, and outworking opponents in the weight room and practice field.

He said some of all players are made to forego individuality in place of team regardless of color. Some of the black players had never experienced that concept and couldn't understand it wasn't personal.

vailpass 06-29-2020 01:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pablo (Post 15043338)
Just a middle of the pack win total joke. It's actually 7.5.

Are you under the impression Hawkeye fans give a **** about something like that?

Mecca 06-29-2020 02:00 PM

Calling a dude simple jack and making fun of him for having a learning disability doesn't seem like anything other than being a dickhead.

Pablo 06-29-2020 02:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vailpass (Post 15043343)
Are you under the impression Hawkeye fans give a **** about something like that?

No. But I think it's funny so I posted it. Are you familiar with how chiefsplanet operates?

vailpass 06-29-2020 02:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 15043347)
Calling a dude simple jack and making fun of him for having a learning disability doesn't seem like anything other than being a dickhead.

Oh boo hoo hoo coach said a mean thing. Muh feelerz. Your fat lazy ass obviously never played a down of football.

vailpass 06-29-2020 02:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pablo (Post 15043349)
No. But I think it's funny so I posted it. Are you familiar with how chiefsplanet operates?

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/98/0a...8e29f502a6.gif

Mecca 06-29-2020 02:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vailpass (Post 15043351)
Oh boo hoo hoo coach said a mean thing. Muh feelerz. Your fat lazy ass obviously never played a down of football.

I'm so hurt by your generic insult, it's tough. It's a good way to deflect though so by all means.

Pablo 06-29-2020 02:06 PM

Akrum is a dumbshit name though. Hopefully he was a DB so he can join our team.

Demonpenz 06-29-2020 02:23 PM

Akrum Ohio

Iowanian 06-29-2020 02:37 PM

I've seen some things today suggesting that Akrum ripped a lot of fans off along the way, doing things like charging for autographs, requiring prepayment and never providing them. That's one example I've read.

BossChief 06-29-2020 02:42 PM

Akrum had a high upside and needed to be coached hard to bring out his abilities and he’s obviously cut from thin cloth. Any winning organization at the next level will also push him mentally and physically. I’m sure he will use the victim card then, too.

Oh no, I weighed in over weight multiple times so my coach cut off my meal card for certain times.....poor little bitch had to call mommy to get a pizza at 11pm.

Bitch

George Liquor 06-29-2020 02:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 15043265)
Being a shithead to a white person isnt racist. Being a shithead to a black person is automatically racist. The focus should be coaches being shitheads. I've heard far worse from coaches when I played ball in high school. Granted that was 17 or 18 years ago, and Im glad coaches are becoming more player friendly but everything isn't automatically racist.

There's lots of dickhead football coaches. I remember when I played football in 7th grade our coaches got so mad at us one day, they cussed us all out, left practice and left us all on the field for 2 while we waited for our parents to show up and get us.

staylor26 06-29-2020 03:03 PM

Mecca is an SJW cuck.

Iowanian 06-29-2020 03:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 15043347)
Calling a dude simple jack and making fun of him for having a learning disability doesn't seem like anything other than being a dickhead.

To be fair....Simple Jack is white.....It's not like they called him "radio"


Iowa takes 2 star talent, puts them in the weight room where they grow to a competitive size(from the hard line coach some of them apparently hate after the fact)...get coached up and many make it on to productive NFL careers, while others are afforded the opportunity for a free D1 education.


If they heard the shit bosses said to me while I was working terrible, dirty jobs from Junior high on through college they'd shit their pants.

vailpass 06-29-2020 03:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 15043461)
Akrum had a high upside and needed to be coached hard to bring out his abilities and he’s obviously cut from thin cloth. Any winning organization at the next level will also push him mentally and physically. I’m sure he will use the victim card then, too.

Oh no, I weighed in over weight multiple times so my coach cut off my meal card for certain times.....poor little bitch had to call mommy to get a pizza at 11pm.

Bitch

The irony being that without tough coaches to push him Akrum would never have been in a position for anyone to hear him bitch about it.

displacedinMN 06-29-2020 03:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iowanian (Post 15043547)
To be fair....Simple Jack is white.....It's not like they called him "radio"


Iowa takes 2 star talent, puts them in the weight room where they grow to a competitive size(from the hard line coach some of them apparently hate after the fact)...get coached up and many make it on to productive NFL careers, while others are afforded the opportunity for a free D1 education.


If they heard the shit bosses said to me while I was working terrible, dirty jobs from Junior high on through college they'd shit their pants.

All of this.

Iowa football is not about individual and KF does not recruit individuals. He recruits people that are there for team. I guess that means we are a consistent 8 win team.

I will never deny some of the things did not happen. I am not an insider.
But if you want a disciplined shot at the NFL-Go to Iowa.

BossChief 06-29-2020 03:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vailpass (Post 15043549)
The irony being that without tough coaches to push him Akrum would never have been in a position for anyone to hear him bitch about it.

Not shocking that Vrabel cut him (Same coaching tree as a Ferentz) and he never found a home at the next level.

I hadnt realized it had been 2 years removed from Iowa. Time flies, I guess.

Complaining about not being able to use social media is something almost every team does. Same with scheduled weigh ins and other conditioning expectations.

Coddled little unemployed bitch.

vailpass 06-29-2020 03:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 15043587)
Not shocking that Vrabel cut him (Same coaching tree as a Ferentz) and he never found a home at the next level.

I hadnt realized it had been 2 years removed from Iowa. Time flies, I guess.

Complaining about not being able to use social media is something almost every team does. Same with scheduled weigh ins and other conditioning expectations.

Coddled little unemployed bitch.

Wish he'd have wrestled under Gable for a couple of years. He'd be calling Vrabel uncle Mikey and thanking him for the compliments.

BossChief 06-29-2020 03:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vailpass (Post 15043626)
Wish he'd have wrestled under Gable for a couple of years. He'd be calling Vrabel uncle Mikey and thanking him for the compliments.

Great coaches push you to the point of breaking...them they show you how to build yourself back up stronger...rinse, repeat. Both mentally and physically. Sometimes things are said for you to gather motivation. The things said during games are far more colorful and hard coaching prepares you for those moments.

Pussies can’t take it and wash out.

They were never cut out for it in the first place.

Go sell insurance and go to meetings about your feelings.

Leave the gladiator sports to the warriors.

Buehler445 06-29-2020 03:46 PM

I’m 37. I don’t think I’m all that old.

But goddamn I can’t imagine coaching kids these days.

My nephew is just shy of 20. My god he’s on a totally different wavelength from me.

vailpass 06-29-2020 03:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 15043658)
Great coaches push you to the point of breaking...them they show you how to build yourself back up stronger...rinse, repeat. Both mentally and physically. Sometimes things are said for you to gather motivation. The things said during games are far more colorful and hard coaching prepares you for those moments.

Pussies can’t take it and wash out.

They were never cut out for it in the first place.

Go sell insurance and go to meetings about your feelings.

Leave the gladiator sports to the warriors.

Yep. The minute we eliminate that from sports, and society, is the minute we weaken and fail.

Jewish Rabbi 06-29-2020 04:24 PM

Hearing from sources inside the program that Ferentz is done.

displacedinMN 06-29-2020 04:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jewish Rabbi (Post 15043720)
Hearing from sources inside the program that Ferentz is done.

Not that I dont believe you....but which one? Sources.

If they fire KF. It is a dark day for Iowa football.

Bring on Bob Stoops.

Hoover 06-29-2020 04:32 PM

The timing of this is weird, why not come out with this shit weeks ago when everyone was trashing the program?

Jewish Rabbi 06-29-2020 04:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by displacedinMN (Post 15043726)
Not that I dont believe you....but which one? Sources.

If they fire KF. It is a dark day for Iowa football.

Bring on Bob Stoops.

Several people within the athletic department. I don’t want to go any further than that.

Hoover 06-29-2020 04:48 PM

KF is the athletic department - I don't think this pushes him out. Bruan on the other hand could be in trouble.

vailpass 06-29-2020 04:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jewish Rabbi (Post 15043760)
Several people within the athletic department. I don’t want to go any further than that.

LMAO Sources or GTFO.

vailpass 06-29-2020 04:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hoover (Post 15043767)
KF is the athletic department - I don't think this pushes him out. Bruan on the other hand could be in trouble.

Bryan? That would ****ing piss me off so bad. Some other program would get a 37 year old, groomed for life, stud OC/HC in his prime. Because Akrum Bitchass had to cry. **** that.

displacedinMN 06-29-2020 05:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jewish Rabbi (Post 15043760)
Several people within the athletic department. I don’t want to go any further than that.

didnt know you knew people there. I hope this is just a rumor. Firing KF is the worst thing Iowa can do. Also a financial killer.

Sassy Squatch 06-29-2020 05:51 PM

LMAO The **** is Bosschief so butthurt for?

BWillie 06-29-2020 06:50 PM

I'm actually an Iowa fan, but there are two sides of this issue. Wadley may have been hurt by things said to him, but hes clearly a piece of shit human being. Hes routinely taken advantage of fans after his playing career by not paying ppl for services rendered and refunds for merchandise purchased never received even 3 months+ after purchase. He blocks ppl on Twitter who he owes money to when they inquire.

ChiefsCountry 06-29-2020 07:25 PM

Whitlock nails it in this article
https://outkick.com/jack-dorsey-is-t...n-in-football/

Twitter is the head coach of your favorite college football team.

Yes, even at Alabama. Nick Saban is no longer in charge. He answers to Twitter. The 68-year-old winner of six national championships is one disgruntled-player tweet from disavowing all that he believes and running his team in accordance with Twitter bylaws.

That’s the lesson learned from the recent controversies that engulfed the Oklahoma State, Iowa and West Virginia football programs.

A tweet from star running back Chuba Hubbard forced head coach Mike Gundy to take a knee and distance himself from a cable news T-shirt that Twitter deemed offensive.

Iowa coach Kirk Ferentz fired his longtime strength coach Chris Doyle after a handful of former Hawkeyes tweeted complaints that Doyle made them uncomfortable with his non-PC rhetoric.

West Virginia placed defensive coordinator Vic Koenning on administrative leave this week in the aftermath of allegations that Koenning called safety Kerry Martin Jr., a “reerun” and, among other things, read him scriptures out of the Bible.

Twitter has instituted a new standard on all coaches. You cannot make young people uncomfortable. You cannot speak to athletes using non-PC language. The standards coaches adopted from military training have been outlawed by social media.

Remember the role actor Lou Gossett Jr., played in the movie “An Officer and a Gentleman?” Marine Sergeant Emil Foley. Gossett won the Academy Award for best supporting actor for verbally abusing Private Zack Mayo and turning him into a responsible man.

Football coaches can’t do that anymore. The power of Twitter has made football and all sports a safe space.

As a high school sophomore, on the first day of padded practice, Warren Central High School assistant coach Tony Burchett called me a pussy in front of the whole team. It changed my life. For the next three years, I tried to annihilate every kid who lined up in front of me. No one would ever call me a pussy again.

Tony Burchett is one of my best friends in life. There’s nothing he wouldn’t do for me.

As a football player at Ball State University, I had a rollercoaster career. I despised my first offensive line coach Dave Magazu. Dude was a jerk. He thought he could bully me. My second year at Ball State he tried to run me off the team. I tried to quit. My parents wouldn’t let me.

Magazu left for a job at Navy. I absolutely loved my second offensive line coach Lawrence Cooley. I became a starter and key contributor. I spoke at his funeral when he died in a car crash a year after leaving Ball State.

I’m glad I played for Coach Magazu and Coach Cooley. As an adult, I understand why Magazu tried to bully me. I was lazy, irresponsible and entitled. I didn’t have that self-awareness as a kid. I didn’t fully have that level of awareness until I reached my 40s.

The experience with Magazu and Cooley shaped me into a more responsible adult.

I’m glad there was no Twitter when I played football. I would’ve publicly lashed out rather than accepting the challenge of improving and evolving. We’re raising soft kids, kids who constantly have their victimhood affirmed.

Any “uncomfortable” interaction between a white coach and black player is proof of racism. If I’m a coach, regardless of my race, I would not engage with my players on anything unrelated to Xs and Os.

One of the allegations against Koenning is that he expressed displeasure with the rioting and looting going on during the Black Lives Matter protests. Players were allegedly offended Koenning wasn’t sympathetic. Koenning has no right to express how he feels. His feelings must mirror the feelings of his players or he’s guilty of making them “uncomfortable.”

My dad made me uncomfortable on a daily basis. It was his way of showing that he cared. He told me exactly what he thought whether I liked it or not. My mother does the same thing.

Coaches can no longer substitute as parents. Their interaction with athletes must be consistent with the thoughts and values shared in the athlete’s social-media cocoon.

Jack Dorsey, Twitter’s founder, is the head coach at Alabama.

ptlyon 06-29-2020 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by displacedinMN (Post 15043843)
didnt know you knew people there. I hope this is just a rumor. Firing KF is the worst thing Iowa can do. Also a financial killer.

Actually, it would be the best. Horrible decision making coach.

'Hamas' Jenkins 06-29-2020 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 15044082)
Whitlock nails it in this article
https://outkick.com/jack-dorsey-is-t...n-in-football/

Twitter is the head coach of your favorite college football team.

Yes, even at Alabama. Nick Saban is no longer in charge. He answers to Twitter. The 68-year-old winner of six national championships is one disgruntled-player tweet from disavowing all that he believes and running his team in accordance with Twitter bylaws.

That’s the lesson learned from the recent controversies that engulfed the Oklahoma State, Iowa and West Virginia football programs.

A tweet from star running back Chuba Hubbard forced head coach Mike Gundy to take a knee and distance himself from a cable news T-shirt that Twitter deemed offensive.

Iowa coach Kirk Ferentz fired his longtime strength coach Chris Doyle after a handful of former Hawkeyes tweeted complaints that Doyle made them uncomfortable with his non-PC rhetoric.

West Virginia placed defensive coordinator Vic Koenning on administrative leave this week in the aftermath of allegations that Koenning called safety Kerry Martin Jr., a “reerun” and, among other things, read him scriptures out of the Bible.

Twitter has instituted a new standard on all coaches. You cannot make young people uncomfortable. You cannot speak to athletes using non-PC language. The standards coaches adopted from military training have been outlawed by social media.

Remember the role actor Lou Gossett Jr., played in the movie “An Officer and a Gentleman?” Marine Sergeant Emil Foley. Gossett won the Academy Award for best supporting actor for verbally abusing Private Zack Mayo and turning him into a responsible man.

Football coaches can’t do that anymore. The power of Twitter has made football and all sports a safe space.

As a high school sophomore, on the first day of padded practice, Warren Central High School assistant coach Tony Burchett called me a pussy in front of the whole team. It changed my life. For the next three years, I tried to annihilate every kid who lined up in front of me. No one would ever call me a pussy again.

Tony Burchett is one of my best friends in life. There’s nothing he wouldn’t do for me.

As a football player at Ball State University, I had a rollercoaster career. I despised my first offensive line coach Dave Magazu. Dude was a jerk. He thought he could bully me. My second year at Ball State he tried to run me off the team. I tried to quit. My parents wouldn’t let me.

Magazu left for a job at Navy. I absolutely loved my second offensive line coach Lawrence Cooley. I became a starter and key contributor. I spoke at his funeral when he died in a car crash a year after leaving Ball State.

I’m glad I played for Coach Magazu and Coach Cooley. As an adult, I understand why Magazu tried to bully me. I was lazy, irresponsible and entitled. I didn’t have that self-awareness as a kid. I didn’t fully have that level of awareness until I reached my 40s.

The experience with Magazu and Cooley shaped me into a more responsible adult.

I’m glad there was no Twitter when I played football. I would’ve publicly lashed out rather than accepting the challenge of improving and evolving. We’re raising soft kids, kids who constantly have their victimhood affirmed.

Any “uncomfortable” interaction between a white coach and black player is proof of racism. If I’m a coach, regardless of my race, I would not engage with my players on anything unrelated to Xs and Os.

One of the allegations against Koenning is that he expressed displeasure with the rioting and looting going on during the Black Lives Matter protests. Players were allegedly offended Koenning wasn’t sympathetic. Koenning has no right to express how he feels. His feelings must mirror the feelings of his players or he’s guilty of making them “uncomfortable.”

My dad made me uncomfortable on a daily basis. It was his way of showing that he cared. He told me exactly what he thought whether I liked it or not. My mother does the same thing.

Coaches can no longer substitute as parents. Their interaction with athletes must be consistent with the thoughts and values shared in the athlete’s social-media cocoon.

Jack Dorsey, Twitter’s founder, is the head coach at Alabama.

Remember the role actor Lou Gossett Jr., played in the movie “An Officer and a Gentleman?” Marine Sergeant Emil Foley. Gossett won the Academy Award for best supporting actor for verbally abusing Private Zack Mayo and turning him into a responsible man.


What kind of ****ing idiot thinks this is a representative or meaningful piece of evidence?

BWillie 06-29-2020 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by ptlyon (Post 15044099)
Actually, it would be the best. Horrible decision making coach.

Im an Iowa fan and Im kinda rooting for it. KF coaches football the way Alex Smith plays football. Iowa could very well get worse with a new coach, but theyve hit their ceiling wirh KF for years now.

Jewish Rabbi 06-29-2020 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by vailpass (Post 15043776)
LMAO Sources or GTFO.

Don’t believe me if you want, I won’t lose a second of sleep over it.

staylor26 06-29-2020 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 15044101)
Remember the role actor Lou Gossett Jr., played in the movie “An Officer and a Gentleman?” Marine Sergeant Emil Foley. Gossett won the Academy Award for best supporting actor for verbally abusing Private Zack Mayo and turning him into a responsible man.


What kind of ****ing idiot thinks this is a representative or meaningful piece of evidence?

It was definitely silly, but that fact that that is all you go out of the article says a lot.

He’s still 100% right.

vailpass 06-29-2020 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Jewish Rabbi (Post 15044149)
Don’t believe me if you want, I won’t lose a second of sleep over it.

Then you’re just throwing shit against the wall to see what sticks.

Dallas Chief 06-29-2020 08:21 PM

Jesus what a bunch of Mary's and pantywaists. Crybaby bitches.

Titty Meat 06-29-2020 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by vailpass (Post 15043776)
LMAO Sources or GTFO.

Hes Tavian Banks

displacedinMN 06-29-2020 09:05 PM

If I remember-Wadley had issues as a sophomore. Fumbles, weak play. Didn't really get it until he was a Jr/Sr.

displacedinMN 06-29-2020 09:07 PM

From an Iowa board

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Anyone else hearing about this? Its quite troubling. It sounds like Akrum scammed several individuals out of a lot of money by offering to sign autographs on balls and helmets for cash, took payments, but never sent the merchandise. From what I gather, some individuals did receive some things from him, but several did not. There are some claiming Akrum was paid over $1,000 but that he never sent anything in return. Akrum's latest twitter post indicated that he was suspending shipments because of "the Virus" and to contact him if he wanted a refund, but it appears that he promptly closed his direct messages and is now blocking those asking about refunds or shipments. It also appears that he has been scamming people since as early as last spring, and I'm not sure shipping lines have been affected by the Virus in any event. It may be that he is out of money and can't afford to buy the merch and send it.

Based on some of the amounts, Akrum appears to be dabbling in felony territory. I wonder if the University can lean on him some before it gets to that...it looks like he was selling University trademarked gear so maybe there was some involvement by the University. Either way, I hope this gets resolved.

vailpass 06-29-2020 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Titty Meat (Post 15044253)
Hes Tavian Banks

LMAO

BryanBusby 06-29-2020 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 15043662)
I’m 37. I don’t think I’m all that old.

But goddamn I can’t imagine coaching kids these days.

My nephew is just shy of 20. My god he’s on a totally different wavelength from me.

It's not bad. You can drive the most out of people without having to resort to be demeaning.

I can't think of a single person growing up where I think oh gosh I got ahead because they acted like a ****. If anything, it's more like "I made it in spite of that ****"

People ****ing loved Todd Haley and well look at the results. Andy Reid gets it done while treating people like well, actual people because he's willing to understand everyone and get the most out of them.

I'm ok with this fake tough shit era of football being thrown out. Give me someone that's actually good. You can have the drill sergeant.

vailpass 06-29-2020 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by BryanBusby (Post 15044270)
It's not bad. You can drive the most out of people without having to resort to be demeaning.

I can't think of a single person growing up where I think oh gosh I got ahead because they acted like a ****. If anything, it's more like "I made it in spite of that ****"

People ****ing loved Todd Haley and well look at the results. Andy Reid gets it done while treating people like well, actual people because he's willing to understand everyone and get the most out of them.

I'm ok with this fake tough shit era of football being thrown out. Give me someone that's actually good. You can have the drill sergeant.

You just glossed over 80% of coaches and 95% of the best ones.

BryanBusby 06-29-2020 09:17 PM

Oddly enough, there are a lot of bad coaches out there.

Hoover 06-29-2020 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by ptlyon (Post 15044099)
Actually, it would be the best. Horrible decision making coach.

Iowa in an instant would go from being a national player, and a developer of NFL talent, to an afterthought. No way. Keep KF

Buehler445 06-30-2020 06:00 AM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 15044101)
Remember the role actor Lou Gossett Jr., played in the movie “An Officer and a Gentleman?” Marine Sergeant Emil Foley. Gossett won the Academy Award for best supporting actor for verbally abusing Private Zack Mayo and turning him into a responsible man.


What kind of ****ing idiot thinks this is a representative or meaningful piece of evidence?

I'm 90% sure it's in there specifically and only for the people who've never played sports and can't relate to a coach that made them check their ego at the door.

Quote:

Originally Posted by BryanBusby (Post 15044270)
It's not bad. You can drive the most out of people without having to resort to be demeaning.

I can't think of a single person growing up where I think oh gosh I got ahead because they acted like a ****. If anything, it's more like "I made it in spite of that ****"

People ****ing loved Todd Haley and well look at the results. Andy Reid gets it done while treating people like well, actual people because he's willing to understand everyone and get the most out of them.

I'm ok with this fake tough shit era of football being thrown out. Give me someone that's actually good. You can have the drill sergeant.

It's not that dude. I don't have much room in my life for ****s. Other than one football camp, I never had a coach that was just a straight up ****. Never really had any that were into name calling. But I did have ones that demanded excellence and there were very real consequences for not.

That's not to say that my statement was incorrect. I typed out a long explanation but decided to post it publicly.

Mecca 06-30-2020 06:25 AM

This is the new generation of people, everyone is very sensitive. It's talked about all the time so why would sports be any different? If you raise a kid the way kids are raised now, a good number of them are not going to respond well to anyone yelling at them or calling them names etc.

That's the society we live in today and at some point they will be responsible for our society.

displacedinMN 06-30-2020 07:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 15044584)
This is the new generation of people, everyone is very sensitive. It's talked about all the time so why would sports be any different? If you raise a kid the way kids are raised now, a good number of them are not going to respond well to anyone yelling at them or calling them names etc.

That's the society we live in today and at some point they will be responsible for our society.

This. Every day.

Please sit down so we can do class. **** you. Don't tell me what to do.

5 second attention spans. Can't read. Refuse to try. Addicted to phones by age 3.


These are the leaders of tomorrow.

Iowanian 06-30-2020 07:30 AM

In high school wrestling I was intense, and if I was fighting injury(like cracked/broken ribs) I'd get myself so wound up I was almost blind with anger before I went on the mat.

At a rival school my junior year, the situation above was in play, versus a kid I wanted to beat pretty badly. Details aren't important, but the rivalry for our schools was boiling, I had been taken down, and did a move called a 1 point granby, and when I found myself on my feed ready to reshoot....the ref had called me pinned on the roll through.

I was livid and didn't respond in a way that reflected well on myself, my team or my coach...I said something stupid to the ref. A few people in the home crowd said some things to me while I was on the mat, and I said something back...

When I got to the edge of the mat, my coach grabbed me by the face, and shoved me behind the seats but still in the gym, put 2 hands on my throat, lifted me off of the ground against the wall and explained through the wall of veins bulging from his face what a poor choice I'd made. My feet were back on the ground before I was sleeping.

I knew it before the words had left my mouth but couldn't stop it....He was right and I knew that too. It was embarrassing and I apologized to him, my team, the ref and their crowd after the meet.

My fault. I was coached.....sternly.....and I deserved it and learned a lot from being coached hard with high expectations.

It's not comfortable to yelled at or clowned on for an error, but that shit builds character.

InChiefsHeaven 06-30-2020 07:48 AM

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Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 15044136)
Im an Iowa fan and Im kinda rooting for it. KF coaches football the way Alex Smith plays football. Iowa could very well get worse with a new coach, but theyve hit their ceiling wirh KF for years now.

As a Husker fan, I can only say...be careful what you wish for...

Mecca 06-30-2020 08:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iowanian (Post 15044656)
In high school wrestling I was intense, and if I was fighting injury(like cracked/broken ribs) I'd get myself so wound up I was almost blind with anger before I went on the mat.

At a rival school my junior year, the situation above was in play, versus a kid I wanted to beat pretty badly. Details aren't important, but the rivalry for our schools was boiling, I had been taken down, and did a move called a 1 point granby, and when I found myself on my feed ready to reshoot....the ref had called me pinned on the roll through.

I was livid and didn't respond in a way that reflected well on myself, my team or my coach...I said something stupid to the ref. A few people in the home crowd said some things to me while I was on the mat, and I said something back...

When I got to the edge of the mat, my coach grabbed me by the face, and shoved me behind the seats but still in the gym, put 2 hands on my throat, lifted me off of the ground against the wall and explained through the wall of veins bulging from his face what a poor choice I'd made. My feet were back on the ground before I was sleeping.

I knew it before the words had left my mouth but couldn't stop it....He was right and I knew that too. It was embarrassing and I apologized to him, my team, the ref and their crowd after the meet.

My fault. I was coached.....sternly.....and I deserved it and learned a lot from being coached hard with high expectations.

It's not comfortable to yelled at or clowned on for an error, but that shit builds character.

I get your story, lots of us have those stories growing up, you're probably older than me but not by a lot. I think one of the big things though is with how much society has changed especially with school and raising of children, kids don't think it builds character anymore, they think you're being a dick.

I'm not sure what the line here is but this is where we are today.

ChiefsCountry 06-30-2020 08:12 AM

My favorite coach would yell and call you a pussy but he also would give you a hug as well. To this day, me and my teammates would run through a wall for that man. He made us all into men. We haven't played football for 17 years now.

Demonpenz 06-30-2020 08:50 AM

Boomers all preach about toughness but cant handle people driving in the left hand lane or the Denny's waitress not refilling their tea on time. Chiefsplanet is full of old white ****s that aren't strong enough to his their racism for 5 god Damn seconds.

staylor26 06-30-2020 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Demonpenz (Post 15044761)
Boomers all preach about toughness but cant handle people driving in the left hand lane or the Denny's waitress not refilling their tea on time. Chiefsplanet is full of old white ****s that aren't strong enough to his their racism for 5 god Damn seconds.

Did you have a stroke at the end of this dumb ass post?


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