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BigRedChief 07-05-2020 06:16 PM

They are coming for the chop too
 
The Kansas City Chiefs’ racist “Arrowhead Chop” has flown under the radar. Not anymore. The Kansas City Chiefs’ chant isn’t a tribute to people like me. It’s racist.

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Spoiler!

https://www.vox.com/first-person/202...fs-kansas-city


KC Star:
https://www.kansascity.com/sports/sp...244153762.html


Kansas City Magazine:
https://www.kansascitymag.com/is-the...s-who-you-ask/

Twitter has its own hashtag
https://mobile.twitter.com/chopisracist

NY Times: Stop the Chop
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/29/s...hawk-chop.html

CasselGotPeedOn 07-05-2020 06:17 PM

Vox? Lulz

TLO 07-05-2020 06:18 PM

tl;dr

Good luck with that though.

Randallflagg 07-05-2020 06:20 PM

Chairman Maos "Cultural revolution".

Titty Meat 07-05-2020 06:21 PM

Liberal bundle of stickss

BigRedChief 07-05-2020 06:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CasselGotPeedOn (Post 15052765)
Vox? Lulz

According to the notes, it’s originally from the KC Star. Google the chop. Lots of articles out there tha it’s racist. But, go ahead and keep your head in the sand.

KCUnited 07-05-2020 06:22 PM

First Seattle now KC’s chop

Eleazar 07-05-2020 06:23 PM

Vox is a trash publication but the chop is stupid. It’s not really our cheer, anyway

Coach 07-05-2020 06:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eleazar (Post 15052776)
Vox is a trash publication but the chop is stupid. It’s not really our cheer, anyway

Agreed on both counts.

I hate the chop, not because either it is or is not a race issue. I just hate it because it's just annoying as hell.

It just got to go.

RealSNR 07-05-2020 06:33 PM

Am I the only Chiefs fan who doesn't give a shit about the chop?

There are a zillion other Arrowhead traditions old and new. If this will shut people up, then go ahead and get rid of it.

Yeah yeah yeah, I know. "Don't give them an inch!"

I just want to watch Patrick Mahomes win Super Bowls, people. Preferably by playing for the Kansas City football team known as the Chiefs and nothing else, and preferably in the classic red uniforms.

Hammock Parties 07-05-2020 06:34 PM

haha

piss off

RealSNR 07-05-2020 06:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coach (Post 15052781)
Agreed on both counts.

I hate the chop, not because either it is or is not a race issue. I just hate it because it's just annoying as hell.

It just got to go.

I really hate when I'm watching TV, basking in the glow of a glorious Chiefs primetime win, and they have the on-field crew doing interviews with the players and coaches, and I have to listen to the damn chop compete with what they're trying to say.

Honestly, this is something that can go away.

KurtCobain 07-05-2020 06:35 PM

Q

OnTheWarpath15 07-05-2020 07:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 15052783)
Am I the only Chiefs fan who doesn't give a shit about the chop?

There are a zillion other Arrowhead traditions old and new. If this will shut people up, then go ahead and get rid of it.

Yeah yeah yeah, I know. "Don't give them an inch!"

I just want to watch Patrick Mahomes win Super Bowls, people. Preferably by playing for the Kansas City football team known as the Chiefs and nothing else, and preferably in the classic red uniforms.

I'm with you. It's just not that big of a deal to me.

Honestly, same with the name Chiefs. As long as we have Mahomes, we could be called the Kansas City Dicklickers for all I care.

It's funny the things people get outraged over.

lewdog 07-05-2020 07:10 PM

Yeah well we can still do it!!

Chief Roundup 07-05-2020 07:24 PM

This is old news.

Chief Northman 07-05-2020 07:31 PM

Ban rooting for your team. Racist and divisive.

Kman34 07-05-2020 07:32 PM

oh...oh...oh.oh...**** YOU KAREN..

Bump 07-05-2020 07:36 PM

I say give in, give it all up. Change everything, the name, the stadium name, throw out anyone that does the chop. It's gotta be changed to something that sounds really woke. I'm not sure what to suggest, but it has to be woke AF.

I'd be more entertained by the reactions of everyone than I would the actual game. Do it!

KChiefs1 07-05-2020 07:39 PM

The Kansas City Rocks or Dirt

That can’t offend anyone right?

Eleazar 07-05-2020 07:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 15052783)
Am I the only Chiefs fan who doesn't give a shit about the chop?

There are a zillion other Arrowhead traditions old and new. If this will shut people up, then go ahead and get rid of it.

Yeah yeah yeah, I know. "Don't give them an inch!"

I just want to watch Patrick Mahomes win Super Bowls, people. Preferably by playing for the Kansas City football team known as the Chiefs and nothing else, and preferably in the classic red uniforms.

Getting rid of the chop won't stop them. They'll come for the team's name and logo, because trying to appease a cancel mob is like trying to put a fire out with gasoline.

I just think the chop is stupid as hell and annoying, and was stolen from another team anyway, so forget it

BigRedChief 07-05-2020 07:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chief Roundup (Post 15052823)
This is old news.

if you don’t think the Chiefs banning the Chop at Arrowhead is a possibility this year, your not paying attention to current news.

KChiefs1 07-05-2020 07:40 PM

Isn’t Kansas City named after native Americans?

KChiefs1 07-05-2020 07:41 PM

Cancel Culture is real. Deal with it.

Rain Man 07-05-2020 07:42 PM

It's interesting that a lot of us don't like the chop. It seems like it should be easy to do away with it and replace it with something better.

Red Dawg 07-05-2020 07:43 PM

You would think Native Americans would like teams bearing their heritage. Maybe not the Redskin name but the others are not offensive. They rather have none? That makes no sense.

Cleavage 07-05-2020 07:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kman34 (Post 15052826)
oh...oh...oh.oh...**** YOU KAREN..

Let's ban the use of the name "Karen" when someone melts down too.

KChiefs1 07-05-2020 07:45 PM

They are coming for the chop too
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 15052762)
Then there is the fact that Native Americans are killed in police encounters at a higher rate than any other racial or ethnic group, according to data from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. Where is that story being told?


WHAT???????

I thought African Americans were the police’s number one target?

KChiefs1 07-05-2020 07:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Red Dawg (Post 15052843)
You would think Native Americans would like teams bearing their heritage. Maybe not the Redskin name but the others are not offensive. They rather have none? That makes no sense.


Cancel Culture

Chief Roundup 07-05-2020 07:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 15052837)
if you don’t think the Chiefs banning the Chop at Arrowhead is a possibility this year, your not paying attention to current news.

There will have to be games with fans first. Don't believe that is going to happen.

007 07-05-2020 07:50 PM

Ok

RunKC 07-05-2020 07:55 PM

Clark’s gonna be pissed when they come for the beating of the drum after he spent a pretty penny to make that awesome drum deck

Bwana 07-05-2020 07:58 PM

Ignore them. If you want to do the chop, do the chop.

Spott 07-05-2020 07:58 PM

Sometimes I hear it and think it’s kind of corny, but I do love hearing the chop during road games and hearing it at the Super Bowl was amazing.

OrtonsPiercedTaint 07-05-2020 08:00 PM

Fight for your to right to party will sell more stadium beer.

Chiefaholic 07-05-2020 08:00 PM

I'm part Irish.... That's right. **** your Lucky Charms, beyotch. I'm offended because.... Well, I don't know. But, I'm definitely offended about something.

OrtonsPiercedTaint 07-05-2020 08:04 PM

The Missouri and Kansan Indians may not be happy with Jackson county anyway.

Chiefaholic 07-05-2020 08:08 PM

Who were the tribes they brought in a few years ago for input on the drum and what-not?

BlackOp 07-05-2020 08:12 PM

In fairness...the "chop" didn't do shit for the Chiefs in 50 years.

displacedinMN 07-05-2020 08:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KChiefs1 (Post 15052839)
Isn’t Kansas City named after native Americans?

Half of everything is.


Mohawk carpet is next.

Then anything with the word 'white' in it.

sedated 07-05-2020 08:33 PM

That article was clearly before the Super Bowl, so 6 months old?

Everyone has lost their minds and its so tiring. Not only the people writing these click bait opinions, but also the people screaming about how they are losing everything they love.

Hydrae 07-05-2020 08:33 PM

https://www.chiefs.com/news/chiefs-c...l-tribes-x4607

Quote:

Tuesday, Dec 03, 2019 11:53 AM


Chiefs Celebrate American Indian Heritage Month by Honoring Local Tribes

Matt McMullen



The Kansas City Chiefs celebrated American Indian Heritage Month for a sixth-consecutive year at Arrowhead Stadium on Sunday as part of the Chiefs' ongoing commitment to honoring the Native community.

Representatives from several different tribes were on hand for a number of pregame and in-game events dedicated to observing Native American culture and educating the fans in attendance.

The event existed through a collaboration between the Chiefs and the American Indian Community Working Group, which serves as a liaison for the Native community and as an advisor to the Chiefs in order to promote an awareness and understanding of Native cultures and tribes in the region.

The ceremony began with the Blessing of the Four Directions, led by Fred Thomas from the Kickapoo Nation of Kansas in the way of their people. The blessing was meant to bring a sense of preparation and good spirit to the afternoon.

Following the blessing, Lakota Nation native Cody Hall performed a Drum Blessing before the Chief Hill Drum Group, from the Cheyenne River Sioux Tribe of South Dakota, participated in a ceremonial drum Honor Song so that the drum may be later sounded in the Chiefs' tradition.

A drum is much more than just a musical instrument in Native cultures – it holds significant symbolic power. Traditionally constructed from the hides of animals, the drum possesses a powerful spirit representing the life of the animal. The beating of the drum is symbolic of the heartbeat of the animal, uniting those in attendance with the animal's spirit.

After the Honor Song, the colors were presented by the Kansas Native American Color Guard as singer/songwriter Tabitha Fair, a member of the Chickasaw Nation, and Victoria Venier performed the National Anthem while each wearing No. 41 jerseys representing Chiefs' longsnapper James Winchester, who has Choctaw heritage in his family.

"That was pretty cool, I got to shake hands with them afterwards," Winchester said. "I think it's neat that the Chiefs recognize this. My grandma's side is where the Native blood comes from and I'm proud of it."

And for many back in Winchester's native Oklahoma, the five-year veteran serves as an inspiration for what individuals of Native heritage can achieve.

"I don't think I'm deserving of any status as a role model, but you know the people back home think it's cool and they follow me, and that makes it special," Winchester said. "I play this game because I love it, but to be somewhat of an inspiration for people back home is probably the coolest thing about this gig."

As kickoff neared, Chiefs Chairman & CEO Clark Hunt presented a No. 21 Jim Thorpe jersey to Justin Wood, the Principal Chief of the Sac and Fox Nation - which Thorpe was a member of - and two of Thorpe's granddaughters on the field. Thorpe was the first president of the NFL, and the presentation recognized the 100th anniversary of that achievement.

It all made for an educational morning that provided fans with a glimpse into Native cultures and traditions, and the festivities continued into the game itself.

U.S. Air Force and Vietnam War Veteran Jerry Tuckwin, who continues to be an active figure in the operations of the Prairie Band Potawatomi, served as the Lamar Hunt Legacy Seat honoree on Sunday while Special Olympian Bradley Tanner, a native of the Cherokee Nation of Oklahoma, beat the drum as the Tony DiPardo Spirit Leader at the beginning of the fourth quarter.

It all represented a special relationship that was featured on the biggest of stages on Sunday, again demonstrating the Chiefs' commitment to learning from and celebrating the Native community.

Jamie 07-05-2020 08:34 PM

I never understood the logic in bringing back the horse and the drum. The first goal should be to protect the Chiefs name, and bringing in more native stuff just puts us more in the cross hairs.

The chop, I don't care that much. I've never felt comfortable doing it, but I don't see how you could realistically ban it. It's like when they tried to control crowd noise, it's just not going to work.

BigRedChief 07-05-2020 08:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bwana (Post 15052876)
Ignore them. If you want to do the chop, do the chop.

fans will always do the chop. Whether the Chief's play the music, whether they bang the drum.

R Clark 07-05-2020 08:51 PM

Give an inch they will take a mile. Screw em

Bowser 07-05-2020 09:08 PM

Give it up because it's old and played out, but not because a bunch of suburban housewives are just looking to be triggered over the Next Big Racist Thing.

Frazod 07-05-2020 09:09 PM

Never cared for the chop in the past. Thought it was annoying.

But I'll do it now just to make the ****s cry.

stevieray 07-05-2020 09:52 PM

no fun for you.

Best22 07-05-2020 10:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlackOp (Post 15052905)
In fairness...the "chop" didn't do shit for the Chiefs in 50 years.

They didn’t have the chop for 50 years

It started in the 1990s

TEX 07-05-2020 10:05 PM

**** them!

digger 07-05-2020 10:19 PM

So glad we got in 1 super bowl win (in my life time) before all this shit happened...


(Really didn't have a deal with the devil)

TomBarndtsTwin 07-05-2020 10:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 15053006)
Give it up because it's old and played out, but not because a bunch of suburban housewives are just looking to be triggered over the Next Big Racist Thing.

This.

The chop and chant is more nostalgic for me. It will forever be associated with those 90’s Chiefs teams with Marty and all those great defensive teams we had. I loved that era! I grew up in it as a Chiefs fan. But it’s over.

When Vermeil came in, it was like a new era and offense ruled the day. Defense was set aside. And then a bunch of shitty teams for years until Andy Reid arrives to bring back respectability to the Chiefs with a more balanced team. And then in 2017, the chosen one arrives and changes everything.

This is a new Chiefs era. The era of Mahomes and winning titles. Let’s enjoy it and start some new traditions that are forever associated with this great era! We don’t need the chop anymore. (Besides, we stole it from the Florida State Seminoles anyway) It had its time and place, but that time has past. Time to move on. (But not cause of any PC bullshit)

On to bigger and better things . . . . . .

Bugeater 07-05-2020 11:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath15 (Post 15052807)
I'm with you. It's just not that big of a deal to me.

Honestly, same with the name Chiefs. As long as we have Mahomes, we could be called the Kansas City Dicklickers for all I care.

It's funny the things people get outraged over.

...and the hoooome....of the....DICKLICKERS....?


I suppose that would fix THAT problem as well.

WhiteWhale 07-05-2020 11:11 PM

The new age puritans been bitching about it since 2012

arrowheadnation 07-05-2020 11:12 PM

lol...like they can stop it. Unlike "We're gonna beat the hell out of you...", we don't need any accompanying music for the chop. ****'em.

Redbled 07-05-2020 11:18 PM

Nothing short of the Kansas City Cop Killers will truly please them.

InChiefsHeaven 07-06-2020 06:34 AM

I like the chop. There, I said it. I don't care that it originated elsewhere (FL State or the Atlanta Braves right?). I like it. It's ****ing cool to hear it in away stadiums too. And you definitely can hear it. Opposing fans hate it. Good.

The only thing the Chiefs can do is stop playing the theme. Fans can and will continue to do the chop. And now that it's becoming a target of Cancel Culture...chop ON bitches!

HonestChieffan 07-06-2020 06:45 AM

do it more, do it louder

stupid article and more Star garbage..

KChiefs1 07-06-2020 07:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OrtonsPiercedTaint (Post 15052888)
The Missouri and Kansan Indians may not be happy with Jackson county anyway.


Jackson County was named after who? Did they have slaves? Need to rename the county.

KChiefs1 07-06-2020 07:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiefaholic (Post 15052897)
Who were the tribes they brought in a few years ago for input on the drum and what-not?


Obviously they were a racist tribe.

KChiefs1 07-06-2020 07:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Redbled (Post 15053087)
Nothing short of the Kansas City Cop Killers will truly please them.


Great name & not racist & it only offends the cops, so who gives a **** right?

displacedinMN 07-06-2020 07:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KChiefs1 (Post 15053187)
Jackson County was named after who? Did they have slaves? Need to rename the county.

they want everything renamed

Pablo 07-06-2020 07:58 AM

Let's change the name to the Beefs and the chop can be modified to a two hand cutting motion like you're making chopped bbq!

Or just wave cutouts of pork chops in the same motion we use now. I'm excited about our new, meat based traditions.

KChiefs1 07-06-2020 08:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pablo (Post 15053196)
Let's change the name to the Beefs and the chop can be modified to a two hand cutting motion like you're making chopped bbq!

Or just wave cutouts of pork chops in the same motion we use now. I'm excited about our new, meat based traditions.


PETA will be offended.

displacedinMN 07-06-2020 08:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KChiefs1 (Post 15053198)
PETA will be offended.

peta is perpetually offended

neech 07-06-2020 08:14 AM

BRC's avatar is offensive to women get rid of it BRC.

InChiefsHeaven 07-06-2020 08:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by displacedinMN (Post 15053207)
peta is perpetually offended

...and these guys aren't?

displacedinMN 07-06-2020 08:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by InChiefsHeaven (Post 15053215)
...and these guys aren't?

Everything is offensive.

OrtonsPiercedTaint 07-06-2020 08:43 AM

Jackson county was named after Andrew Jackson. No friend of the Native American. Google not kind

Spott 07-06-2020 09:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OrtonsPiercedTaint (Post 15053242)
Jackson county was named after Andrew Jackson. No friend of the Native American. Google not kind

The SJW’s will just think it’s named after Jesse Jackson and leave it alone.

OrtonsPiercedTaint 07-06-2020 09:21 AM

Nobody deserves anything if they are looked at close enough. I guess the artists and sign makers get to make a living.

bobhill 07-06-2020 09:29 AM

Just like a name change it isnt gonna change or go away. So go pound sand

BigRedChief 07-06-2020 09:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by neech (Post 15053213)
BRC's avatar is offensive to women get rid of it BRC.

Wait till they see the women with clothes and then naked thread..... they are going to go ballistic.

Warrior5 07-06-2020 09:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frazod (Post 15053008)
Never cared for the chop in the past. Thought it was annoying.

But I'll do it now just to make the ****s cry.

:LOL:

Fish 07-06-2020 09:55 AM

I'm sure 80,000 drunk Chiefs fans are gonna be totally compliant with this...

dallaschiefsfan 07-06-2020 10:00 AM

Here's the end game of all these weird patterns of thinking...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1j55...dQwzrR-B2OS0qE

MTG#10 07-06-2020 10:22 AM

I hate cancel culture as much as the next rational person but I dont give a damn about this. Its lame anyway and I cringe every time you dumbasses do it.

alanm 07-06-2020 10:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 15053295)
Wait till they see the women with clothes and then naked thread..... they are going to go ballistic.

I find nothing at all offensive about your avatar. Are they offended about the Chiefs logo tastefully placed? :D

redfan 07-06-2020 11:30 AM

The chop can go, it's unoriginal. It was always borrowed from FSU.

BleedingRed 07-06-2020 11:38 AM

Great now I have to do this shit louder....... Thanks


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