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displacedinMN 08-02-2020 09:27 AM

Pac 10 players list demands
 
This should be good.


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A group of Pac-12 football players from multiple schools penned a letter in The Players' Tribune threatening to opt out of fall camp and game participation unless their demands for fair treatment, safety regulations and concerns over racial justice for college athletes are met by the conference.

The letter is signed by Players of the Pac-12 and uses the hashtag #WeAreUnited to explain the group's concerns, saying "NCAA sports exploit college athletes physically, economically and academically, and also disproportionately harm Black college athletes, #WeAreUnited."

According to a source, one of the bigger issues the group wants to address is racial injustice, which is outlined in the letter.

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Pac-12 players threaten to opt out, list demands

Normal? There's no such thing for college football anymore
The student-athletes are asking the conference to form a permanent civic-engagement task force to address social injustice issues, as well as an annual Pac-12 Black College Athlete Summit with at least three athletes from every school in the conference.

In addition, the letter says the group wants the conference to direct 2% of conference revenue to support financial aid for low-income Black students, community initiatives and development programs for college athletes on campus.

The athletes within the group leading this charge also say they are being asked to play college sports in a pandemic without transparency and guarantees for their safety, and without the ability to secure representation while being asked to sign documents that could serve as liability waivers.

Among the demands listed in the letter, the group starts by asking for safety protections amid the coronavirus pandemic. Among those demands: allowing student-athletes to opt out of play during the pandemic without losing eligibility or a spot on the team, prohibiting any COVID-19 agreements that waive liability, and player-approved health and safety standards enforced by a third party selected by players to address COVID-19.

"Because we should not be stuck with sports-related medical expenses, including COVID-19 related expenses, #WeAreUnited," the letter reads.

The group is also asking conference commissioner Larry Scott, administrators and coaches to "drastically reduce excessive pay" and end performance bonuses to help preserve all existing sports. In addition to those financial requests, the student-athletes are demanding guaranteed medical expense coverage for six years after college athletics eligibility ends.

The group is asking the conference to distribute 50 percent of each sport's total conference revenue evenly among athletes in their respective sports, six-year athletic scholarships, and the ability to transfer one time with impunity.

The demands were released on Sunday, and as of Saturday, the Pac-12 said in a statement it had yet to hear from the group.

"Neither the Conference nor our university athletics departments have been contacted by this group regarding these topics," a Pac-12 statement said. "We support our student-athletes using their voice and have regular communications with our student-athletes at many different levels on a range of topics. As we have clearly stated with respect to our fall competition plans, we are, and always will be, directed by medical experts, with the health, safety and well being of our student athletes, coaches and staff always the first priority. We have made it clear that any student athlete who chooses not to return to competition for health or safety reasons will have their scholarship protected."

dj56dt58 08-02-2020 09:32 AM

Hand in your scholarships and enjoy your career at McDonald’s

notorious 08-02-2020 09:34 AM

:facepalm:

Chiefshrink 08-02-2020 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by dj56dt58 (Post 15096906)
Hand in your scholarships and enjoy your career at McDonald’s

Exactly. Don't let the door hit you in the ass either.:thumb:

Meatloaf 08-02-2020 09:40 AM

Wouldn't take me long to say "adios" to said players.

Redbled 08-02-2020 09:58 AM

So they are racists and they want to be able to sue if they get Covid. Got it.

displacedinMN 08-02-2020 10:15 AM

Always love college athletes who say they get nothing.


Food?
Housing?
Education?
Tutoring?
Fame?
Adoration?

Sure-most of you will not go pro. Deal with it.

My daughter was on a college dance team. Since the dance team is a "club" it is not part of the athletics program. They perform at games, are on the field/court. Students have to pay for uniforms etc. Students have 3 hours of practice a night AND 3 times a week have 5:30 am workouts. They compete on a national level and students have to pay for room/board/travel for the competition to Disney.

They were NOT allowed access to athletic facilities, health, food. They practiced off campus. Sometimes they practiced at another campus. When they won a trophy-they were NOT allowed to display it on campus.

I do not feel sorry for some of these athletes making these demands. Not even getting started on the SJW aspect.

CasselGotPeedOn 08-02-2020 10:17 AM

What a bunch of entitled ****s.

Demonpenz 08-02-2020 10:32 AM

Just call the season

PHOG 08-02-2020 10:40 AM

:rolleyes:

Titty Meat 08-02-2020 12:05 PM

Kind of a weird time to make these demands given the season might be cancelled anyway and it's an asterisk season anyway. It should be pretty easy to tell them to **** off.

BWillie 08-02-2020 12:06 PM

And you guys thought the millennials were the most entitled generation.

Buehler445 08-02-2020 12:07 PM

Hoo boy.

Randallflagg 08-02-2020 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefshrink (Post 15096916)
Exactly. Don't let the door hit you in the ass either.:thumb:



:thumb: :clap: :thumb:

ChiefsCountry 08-02-2020 12:50 PM

Title 9 will have a field day with this one.

Pasta Little Brioni 08-02-2020 12:53 PM

Good luck in the real world. What a joke...

Pasta Little Brioni 08-02-2020 12:54 PM

What's wrong with their demands? /cp dumb****s

tyecopeland 08-02-2020 01:15 PM

Maybe this will end college athletics. I'd be on board for that.

kcclone 08-02-2020 01:26 PM

Pac 12 kids think they have leverage? That league could fold tonight and no one would care

jallmon 08-02-2020 02:15 PM

They're going to piss around here and cause the doors to be slammed shut on a multitude of kids trying to get out of the poverty cycle. They are going to ruin a bunch of lives.

The athletics situation right now is not perfect, on either side, but it is the best we have.

FloridaMan88 08-02-2020 02:56 PM

Pull their athletic scholarships and force them to pay regular tuition and re-apply to get into their school without the benefit of an “exploitative” athletic scholarship... good luck.

rabblerouser 08-02-2020 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88 (Post 15097313)
Pull their athletic scholarships and force them to pay regular tuition and re-apply to get into their school without the benefit of an “exploitative” athletic scholarship... good luck.

Well, Financial Aid has rigorous academic standards, and without sportsballs scholarships, ain't no one going to class for them, so...

SEE YA!

rabblerouser 08-02-2020 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by kcclone (Post 15097214)
Pac 12 kids think they have leverage? That league could fold tonight and no one would care

the Pac-10 conference still exists?

GloryDayz 08-02-2020 03:14 PM

This is ****ing awesome. After all the bullshit where the liberal school leadership gave into the student body, and the OAN thing, who could have seen THIS coming. LMAO

I'm not sure this is a good year to pull this BS, perhaps it's a great year, but it's fun to watch...

BossChief 08-02-2020 03:48 PM

I can understand wanting safety precautions in place and for the school to be responsible for all medical costs associated with those precautions...but this list of demands is beyond crazy.

Rain Man 08-02-2020 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by tyecopeland (Post 15097202)
Maybe this will end college athletics. I'd be on board for that.

Yeah, college athletics is a real oddity of our society. Why are colleges serving as the farm teams for pros? Why are colleges using athletics as a fundraiser when the most successful of them do so at a significant cost to their academic reputations? Go back to concentrating on academics and let's not even have athletics associated with college.

Bump 08-02-2020 04:15 PM

The main thing that I have a problem with with NCAA sports is being prevented to make money off of your talent and fame that you earned yourself. If a company wanted to endorse a college athlete and use them in a commercial or something like that, there's no valid reason why that player should be banned from accepting it. The overwhelming majority of these athletes only have 4 years that their talent is worth anything.

mr. tegu 08-02-2020 04:44 PM

Black athletes are disproportionately given a free top of the line education...and...this is...bad for black athletes?

TribalElder 08-02-2020 05:00 PM

well bye

Only reason I watch the pac 12 is because its on late af on saturday nights since it's on west coast time. Don't really give a donkey about them. SEC owns that space

GloryDayz 08-02-2020 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 15097422)
Yeah, college athletics is a real oddity of our society. Why are colleges serving as the farm teams for pros? Why are colleges using athletics as a fundraiser when the most successful of them do so at a significant cost to their academic reputations? Go back to concentrating on academics and let's not even have athletics associated with college.

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Dalla signs....

vailpass 08-02-2020 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by dj56dt58 (Post 15096906)
Hand in your scholarships and enjoy your career at McDonald’s

/thread. **** ‘em. I’ll enjoy college ball as much, if not more, without them.

TomBarndtsTwin 08-02-2020 07:19 PM

Yup. Good riddance.

Go get your ‘free ride’ somewhere else (if you can).

Most of us have to go into debt to pay for a 4 year college education.


PAC-12 needs to tell everyone of them to **** off. If they don’t like it, they can transfer elsewhere.

BigCatDaddy 08-02-2020 07:24 PM

WSU just told guys promoting this to clean out their lockers. Welcome to the real world fellas.

tredadda 08-02-2020 07:26 PM

I fully expect all of these demands to be met. This is the PAC 12 after all. Most of these universities are located in bastions of far left ideologies such as Berkeley, Eugene, Seattle, Boulder etc......The schools will give in to avoid being called out by their far left base.

CasselGotPeedOn 08-02-2020 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 15097617)
WSU just told guys promoting this to clean out their lockers. Welcome to the real world fellas.

Good. **** em.

BWillie 08-02-2020 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 15097422)
Yeah, college athletics is a real oddity of our society. Why are colleges serving as the farm teams for pros? Why are colleges using athletics as a fundraiser when the most successful of them do so at a significant cost to their academic reputations? Go back to concentrating on academics and let's not even have athletics associated with college.

Thats not the NCAAs fault. Who enacts rules to discriminate based on age? It's not the NCAA. The NBA created the one year in college or outside of HS rule to help minimize risk on young talent and the busts that can cripple a franchise. They enacted this rule to gain certainty.

The NFL requires 3 years outside of HS before you can go. These rules are discriminatory and not on the NCAA.

It's still a choice to accept a scholarship, room, board, plus the stipend they get in exchange for playing the sport. Its an offer and if you accept it you abide by the rules of the scholarship. Nobody is making you go to college. Dont want to go? Dont have to go.

Buehler445 08-02-2020 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 15097617)
WSU just told guys promoting this to clean out their lockers. Welcome to the real world fellas.

Is that still Leach?

Chiefshrink 08-02-2020 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by GloryDayz (Post 15097344)
I'm not sure this is a good year to pull this BS, perhaps it's a great year, but it's fun to watch...

It's a perfect time to pull this because all the private sector businesses are cowardly giving in to PC crap and the schools birth this stuff and these student athletes the majority of them are minority with a Civil Rights Lawyer I assure you and they are just in line to get their due. The athletic dept. in no way will stand up to this because the school won't let them especially since Covid rules the day.

BigCatDaddy 08-02-2020 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 15097649)
Is that still Leach?

No..New guy so he has no ties to the players and has some rope for a bit.

kcclone 08-02-2020 09:18 PM

These guys may find out that only 5-10% of them actually have any market value, especially at a time when revenues are plummeting. The P12 was barely staying afloat as it was before Covid.

Dayze 08-03-2020 08:52 AM

don't worry.....when they end up working at McDonalds or some other job that's not meant to sustain a career; are in a low income bracket, and their lives generally suck...it'll be someone else's fault for oppressing them.


hilarious WSU called their all in bluff then the players were holding a Jack - Two off suit.

BYe.

Too bad they'll be to stupid to treat this as a learning experience...pick your battles and be prepared to live with the consequences (which they aren't)

Marcellus 08-03-2020 08:59 AM

The players listing demands will be the same ones partying and going to bars.

Buehler445 08-03-2020 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Dayze (Post 15098044)
don't worry.....when they end up working at McDonalds or some other job that's not meant to sustain a career; are in a low income bracket, and their lives generally suck...it'll be someone else's fault for oppressing them.


hilarious WSU called their all in bluff then the players were holding a Jack - Two off suit.

BYe.

Too bad they'll be to stupid to treat this as a learning experience...pick your battles and be prepared to live with the consequences (which they aren't)

ROFL

GloryDayz 08-03-2020 09:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dayze (Post 15098044)
don't worry.....when they end up working at McDonalds or some other job that's not meant to sustain a career; are in a low income bracket, and their lives generally suck...it'll be someone else's fault for oppressing them.


hilarious WSU called their all in bluff then the players were holding a Jack - Two off suit.

BYe.

Too bad they'll be to stupid to treat this as a learning experience...pick your battles and be prepared to live with the consequences (which they aren't)

Honestly, I think they know that 95%+ of them "won't go pro" (as that one NCAA commercial suggested a couple years back), so I think this, for that group who realize they probably won't go pro and know they're not really smart, is to try and create a nest-egg of sorts while they're in college. I think a huge percentage of them know they'll probably fail at being anything more than a gym coach because they're there to play a game, and few of them take the academic side seriously.

EDIT: Plus, the colleges are making huge bank on their backs, a hell of a lot more than room and board and a few classes (that they probably don't attend anyway), so they want a cut of those huge contracts the schools are getting.

MahiMike 08-03-2020 10:45 AM

It's ok. They can just take their $150K opt out money...

GloryDayz 08-03-2020 11:02 AM

Perhaps they (the schools) should socialize the notion that they're considering moving scholarships to sports where there's no, or little, "Pro" option for graduates. That might leave the kids coming into the programs with a bit of a different outlook on their education and perhaps change their opinions about a lot of things. Limit football, baseball, and basketball to students who can find a way to pay for their college and you might find that you're dealing with better people instead of people who can't read, write, spell, and come in with a victim's mentality.

vailpass 08-03-2020 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by GloryDayz (Post 15098181)
Perhaps they (the schools) should socialize the notion that they're considering moving scholarships to sports where there's no, or little, "Pro" option for graduates. That might leave the kids coming into the programs with a bit of a different outlook on their education and perhaps change their opinions about a lot of things. Limit football, baseball, and basketball to students who can find a way to pay for their college and you might find that you're dealing with better people instead of people who can't read, write, spell, and come in with a victim's mentality.

I'd love to see it just for the fact it would be a really hard reset for players like the one in the OP.
Of cour$e there are many million$ of rea$ons why it won't happen.

GloryDayz 08-03-2020 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by vailpass (Post 15098189)
I'd love to see it just for the fact it would be a really hard reset for players like the one in the OP.
Of cour$e there are many million$ of rea$ons why it won't happen.

Wouldn't it be great to watch football and basketball (nobody watches college baseball) played by students largely made of of kids who could get accepted to a college who didn't neglect their studies for the prior ~12 years?

Bugeater 08-03-2020 11:27 AM

Stopped giving a shit at "concerns over racial justice".

loochy 08-03-2020 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Demonpenz (Post 15096959)
Just call the season replacement players


FYP

tyecopeland 08-03-2020 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Bugeater (Post 15098212)
Stopped giving a shit at "concerns over racial justice".

Don't you know that they pay the white athletes more?

Or is it that there is a disproportionate amount of white players on college sports scholarships?

Deberg_1990 08-03-2020 12:44 PM

Yes Nick! Stand up to these idiots.


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Washington State coach Nick Rolovich told WR Kassidy Woods that aligning with the Pac-12 player unity group would create &quot;an issue&quot; with the program, according to a recording of phone call obtained by the Dallas Morning News. <a href="https://t.co/I8Ou4zssBI">https://t.co/I8Ou4zssBI</a></p>&mdash; ESPN College Football (@ESPNCFB) <a href="https://twitter.com/ESPNCFB/status/1290274904282079235?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 3, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>


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