No fans in seats for 2020 LV
 

Just received the email. Seems this will most likely happen at every venue. Hope this whole pandemic will subside and everyone can stay healthy in the mean time.

“There is nothing more important to the Raider Organization than the health and safety of our players, coaches, staff, stadium workers, and fans. After intensive consultation with healthcare officials and state and community leaders, We Have Made The Difficult Decision To Play The Las Vegas Raiders 2020 Inaugural Season At Allegiant Stadium Without Fans In Attendance. This decision is based on our commitment to protect the health of our fans and the entire community in response to the coronavirus pandemic affecting us all.”

Ruck the Faiders but man what a crappy break for the stadium investors and the locals.

They're indoors, correct? I believe the Chiefs are still planning on 25% capacity in Arrowhead.

Sucks for the Raiders that they're going to miss an entire season before the new wears off and people realize the Raiders aren't worth watching.

no-brainer

Its just a matter of time until all teams announce no fans in the stands.

Personally I’ve always wondered why so many stadiums that are retractable roof are never actually open. Hopefully going future this changes and those buildings play games with the roof open.

Miami is planning the same thing. As of right now our Arrowhead South group tickets are still good but they haven't got this thing under control. Schools opening are going to spike it. The it turns cold and it will spike. 2nd wave?

The best we can hope for is the NBA/NHL model. Real games being played as normal but no fans in the stands.

Not sure that it's been officially announced, but open stadium teams like the Eagles and Seahawks are said to not allow fans this year. I don't think it will be just an indoors stadium thing.

Seems that way to me as well. Football without fans will seem like a scrimmage. Like gladiators with no arena screaming at them.

Biggest factor is whether or not your state's governor is a Democrat. But even if they aren't, I think indoor venues probably have a steeper hill to climb. Outdoor at 25% capacity should be feasible.

At least the Raiders are used to playing in sparsely attended home games from their time in Oakland.

I’m Hopeful with the piped in crowd noise it will make it seem better. I was real skeptical about piped in crowd noise but baseball doing it has not turned out so bad. They are not over doing it. Just enough to keep it from being weird.

Raiders and Chargers will notice no real difference

the Premier League since the restart has been playing in front of no fans, and it's actually been fine. I was skeptical but the quality of the game is good and the fake crowd noise is actually better than the alternative. It has reduced home field advantage to almost nil, IIRC

yeah, I watched some of it. Like baseball, they are not overdoing it. More ambient and then increase in crucial moments.

Crowd noise ain't the same at Arrowhead as it is at the Chargers. Our HFA is gone but its going to be a different year. "Normal" ain't happening this year. It is what it is.

If the Raiders suck and no one is around to see it, did they really suck?

No ‘Arrowhead Mystique’ this year.

Yet, with no fans in the stands to swing momentum in a big way, the team with the most talent should have the edge. This year, thats us.

It's better than nothing, for sure. It's gonna' be weird especially at first. And yeah, for home field advantage can they turn the crowd noise way high when the visiting team is on offense and quiet it for the home team?

I think they will do this because the crowd got louder on 3-2 counts and stuff

And with the premiere league it gets louder as the the players get closer to the net and scoring. So far, from what I've seen, no one is taking advantage and pipping in loud crowd noise thats not usually there. That would backfire anyway. It would make it weirder that it already is.

I think even in the best case scenario for the upcoming season there will be no fans in attendance.

Won't need the mic'd up because you will be able to hear everything going on the field without crowd noise.

Did it? This is going to be interesting.

The noise was added to the TV broadcast, it's not being played through the stadium sound system.

They had an option where if you didn't want to listen to the noise you could use their streaming channel, but it was a little weird. Whistles echoing through empty parks, lots of reverb when the ball was kicked, etc.

Oh, I see what you mean. That’s not as much fun.

There's going to be a whole lot of concession stand workers, custodians and security guards SOL this season.

The Black Mirror series on Netflix was prophetic.

I think the fans have a big impact in English football, but it's not bad to watch on TV. You only notice occasionally that the fans aren't actually there after a while.

I think the NFL will be harder, because the crowd noise is more dynamic and instantaneous. With the games I was talking about, they have a pretty standard backing track of noise that involves the home team's songs and chants. They did some clever things where they blended in fan displeasure when a decision went against them or the sound of shock or cheering when appropriate. I think it will be harder to make it realistic in the NFL unless they are using some kind of a delay.

I'm not sure that's true in all cases. I could be wrong, but I heard one of the reasons MLB added crowd noise (in the stadium, not only on the broadcast) was because hitters could hear the catcher moving around and know if he was setting up on the inside or outside the plate.

When I watched the MLS games, there was a huge difference between Fox (had crowd noise) and ESPN (didn't do crowd noise). Fox seemed normal, ESPN was just weird. ESPN was honestly tougher to watch, it really did seem like a scrimmage. Part of that was hearing the players yell at each other.

Plus ESPN had to do something to the sound when a player or coach cussed, it sounded like when your head went under water and everything was muffled.

The answer to this question is always yes. It's the easiest one on the test.:drool:

I think most teams will get to partial attendance as the season progresses.

Most stadiums are big outdoor spaces where you can properly social distance a reduced attendance and teams have already been working on plans for fans entering/exiting the stadium to comply with social distancing.

Seems like the tricky part is concessions and the bathrooms. But say you have 20k at Arrowhead. They would probably tell people to start arriving to the stadium earlier (not the tailgate...which now that I think of it will probably cause some issues too) in order to get to their seats and take their time with all the social distancing. It can be done...but what a pain in the ass it will be...

Exactly. MLB has the same sound on the broadcast and in the stadium. I think in the exhibition games they didn't and the players noticed right away the catcher was giving away the location with their cleats.

What they should do is have a vote online and the percentage of votes for your team is what the volume will be for our team. Like 80 for the chiefs mean it will ben80 crowd noise on D and 80 on TDs 20 loud for the opponent. Something to get the fans apart of the game

I haven't watched any MLS games.

But, the premiere games broadcast that I watched on FSN or some other cable channel feed had pipped in sound. No idea if it was in the stadium too.

If you are watching the game live through the MLB app, they have buttons you can choose to cheer or boo in the app. Supposedly it influences the crowd noise thats broadcast in the stadium and whats going out on TV..


I could see something like that being fair.