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RealSNR 08-28-2020 10:59 AM

Apparently Jordan Love sucks balls
 
With no preseason, I was missing my overreaction threads, and it's hard to get riled up about your team when they're the defending Super Bowl champions. So here ya go. From The Athletic's Matt Schneidman:

Quote:

He hasn’t fallen down the quarterback depth chart – he was already at the bottom of it – but Love has yet to even provide a glimpse at why the Packers traded up to draft him in the first round. Nobody expected him to take the world by storm in his first nine practices, but every throw he makes seems like a touch pass and he’s had some accuracy issues early on.
La Fleur is saying a lot of, "He needs time," "It's been a rough offseason," "He'll get there eventually," etc. type stuff.

I have nothing against Love or the Packers, but it WOULD be an exciting tire fire to watch if Love had to step in to game action this season and ended up looking way more like Mitch Trubsiky than Patrick Mahomes.

Why Not? 08-28-2020 11:02 AM

A QB from Utah State sucks against pros or rookies from big schools? Who woulda thunk it? Terrible pick and I’m a fan of a school in the same conference.

Dante84 08-28-2020 11:05 AM

Any word on the Chargers Rookie QB? I'm hoping he's terrible, too.

KC_Connection 08-28-2020 11:08 AM

Veach should get all the money for pushing the Mahomes pick rather than one of these other bums. Imagine being stuck with them for 5-10 years instead of the best QB ever to play the game.

https://media.tenor.com/images/6d19c...be4f/tenor.gif

staylor26 08-28-2020 11:12 AM

If he’s this bad, Rodgers will be there for 2 more years.

Rain Man 08-28-2020 11:13 AM

I bet it's hard to evaluate other quarterbacks now that Patrick Mahomes II is setting the standard. It's like trying to differentiate between 31 asteroids and then you throw the sun into the dataset.

staylor26 08-28-2020 11:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dante84 (Post 15135950)
Any word on the Chargers Rookie QB? I'm hoping he's terrible, too.

Don’t worry, he is.

DRM08 08-28-2020 11:14 AM

I never understood the comparison of Love to Mahomes. I just don’t see it in Love’s college tape. Same thing with the Drew Lock comparisons to Mahomes.

DJ's left nut 08-28-2020 11:15 AM

I am so looking forward to 15 years of 'next MJ'.

Remember Harold Miner?

Jordan Love probably won't even have "Baby Jordan's" career.

You judge greatness by its graveyard. How many bodies is the mere shadow of Mahomes going to leave littered across the NFL draft?

Just beautiful.

Chiefspants 08-28-2020 11:18 AM

Who is the next Todd Blackledge?

kcclone 08-28-2020 11:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DRM08 (Post 15135966)
I never understood the comparison of Love to Mahomes. I just don’t see it in Love’s college tape. Same thing with the Drew Lock comparisons to Mahomes.


LOL yeah that was a huge reach comparison. More hope than reality. I’m not an expert QB scout, but the highlights I watched on Jordan Love looked nothing like Mahomes.


He’s decently athletic and has good size but he was really inaccurate from what I saw.

I don’t mind people drafting QB’s because of their importance so I won’t blame the Packers for trying, but I don’t expect Love to unseat Rogers any time soon.

ToxSocks 08-28-2020 11:19 AM

Heh.

Jordan Loves to suck balls.

htismaqe 08-28-2020 11:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 15135969)
I am so looking forward to 15 years of 'next MJ'.

Remember Harold Miner?

Jordan Love probably won't even have "Baby Jordan's" career.

You judge greatness by its graveyard. How many bodies is the mere shadow of Mahomes going to leave littered across the NFL draft?

Just beautiful.

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RealSNR 08-28-2020 11:20 AM

Obviously teams always have varying degrees of success in drafting QBs, but it seems to me that we're definitely on a hot streak as a league in terms of finding QB talent that can actually play. I know it's still a bit too early to crown some of these guys, but in reflecting on the past, I just remember far more QBs becoming glaring busts much earlier than these guys are doing right now.

We realistically haven't had a truly bad class of QBs in several years, and it's hard to put all of these first round QBs from the past 5-6 years and point out the epic draft busts. Manziel is the only one I can think of. I know there's Bortles and Trubisky both drafted in the top 5, but those two guys have won their teams a lot of games and put up a good statistical season or two for being TRULY legendary draft busts. They're more Bust Lite than Bust. Rex Grossman and Mark Sanchez-type busts. Not the same thing as a Johnny Manziel-type bust.

I'm waiting for a string of these raw live arm type prospects who get compared to Mahomes in their draft scouting reports to go bust. When that happens, I think the league is going to calm down a bit, and dudes like Jordan Love aren't going to be quite so highly drafted.

htismaqe 08-28-2020 11:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 15135977)
Obviously teams always have varying degrees of success in drafting QBs, but it seems to me that we're definitely on a hot streak as a league in terms of finding QB talent that can actually play. I know it's still a bit too early to crown some of these guys, but in reflecting on the past, I just remember far more QBs becoming glaring busts much earlier than these guys are doing right now.

We realistically haven't had a truly bad class of QBs in several years, and it's hard to put all of these first round QBs from the past 5-6 years and point out the epic draft busts. Manziel is the only one I can think of. I know there's Bortles and Trubisky both drafted in the top 5, but those two guys have won their teams a lot of games and put up a good statistical season or two for being TRULY legendary draft busts. They're more Bust Lite than Bust. Rex Grossman and Mark Sanchez-type busts. Not the same thing as a Johnny Manziel-type bust.

I'm waiting for a string of these raw live arm type prospects who get compared to Mahomes in their draft scouting reports to go bust. When that happens, I think the league is going to calm down a bit, and dudes like Jordan Love aren't going to be quite so highly drafted.

Rex Grossman played in a Super Bowl, didn't he?

RealSNR 08-28-2020 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 15135981)
Rex Grossman played in a Super Bowl, didn't he?

Yeah, that's what I mean. Rex isn't as much of a bust as other QBs. I don't care if his ass got dragged to that Super Bowl. In order to do that, you can't be so bad that you're an utter cancer to everything about the team.

ChiefBlueCFC 08-28-2020 11:34 AM

To each their own. If he wants to suck balls then he can if that's what floats his boat

DJ's left nut 08-28-2020 11:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 15135985)
Yeah, that's what I mean. Rex isn't as much of a bust as other QBs. I don't care if his ass got dragged to that Super Bowl. In order to do that, you can't be so bad that you're an utter cancer to everything about the team.

I mean, you just defined "Mark Sanchez: Successful use of a Draft Pick" into existence.

Guy went to consecutive AFC championships right?

RunKC 08-28-2020 11:37 AM

Way too early. Rodgers had a lot of problems to fix early in his career too.

Kind of odd to expect a project QB to look like he knows everything 2 weeks into camp with no OTA’s

RealSNR 08-28-2020 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 15135990)
I mean, you just defined "Mark Sanchez: Successful use of a Draft Pick" into existence.

Guy went to consecutive AFC championships right?

You can still say Grossman and Sanchez are busts, but are they as busty as Josh Rosen, Brady Quinn, or (I feel confident he'll never amount to jack squat) Dwayne Haskins?

I would say no.

Demonpenz 08-28-2020 11:44 AM

if mahomes came in and dominated he would have started day one. Love will be fine, just got to give him a year or two.

htismaqe 08-28-2020 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 15135996)
You can still say Grossman and Sanchez are busts, but are they as busty as Josh Rosen, Brady Quinn, or (I feel confident he'll never amount to jack squat) Dwayne Haskins?

I would say no.

Little early for Rosen and Haskins.

I'm thinking about Ryan Leaf, Cade McNown, or Jamarcus Russell. Doesn't seem we've had one of those in a while have we?

I guess Mariota is a little disappointing seeing that he got benched for another guy that underwhelmed his draft position.

RealSNR 08-28-2020 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 15135991)
Way too early. Rodgers had a lot of problems to fix early in his career too.

Kind of odd to expect a project QB to look like he knows everything 2 weeks into camp with no OTA’s

Not everything. Just... some things.

He obviously got drafted high because in college he showed once or twice the ability to make big plays. A "flash" if you will. The Athletic writer here is saying he hasn't even seen brief moments of, "Oh, well, that's what he could be if he puts it all together over time."

I'm well aware this is an overreaction. That's why I said so in the OP. This just seemed like a fun discussion to have, that's all.

MahomesMagic 08-28-2020 11:50 AM

I still like Jordan Love as a prospect. He has real arm talent. I would put his arm over Josh Allen but behind Mahomes.

Deberg_1990 08-28-2020 11:57 AM

He will be fine. I remember when we used to say the same things about Brodie Croyle.

pugsnotdrugs19 08-28-2020 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 15135965)
Don’t worry, he is.

I’ve actually saw some pretty positive stuff on him..

Dunerdr 08-28-2020 12:05 PM

If the Packers hadnt been blessed with basically 30 years of elite or at least well above average qb play i wouldnt be rooting against them so hard right now. itll be funny if they push Rodgers out and he has enormous success elsewhere while they fall into a lions like spiral.

htismaqe 08-28-2020 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 15136040)
I’ve actually saw some pretty positive stuff on him..

Of course you have. It's LA and the other QB in town is trending down.

eDave 08-28-2020 12:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 15136025)
He will be fine. I remember when we used to say the same things about Brodie Croyle.

ROFL

staylor26 08-28-2020 12:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 15136040)
I’ve actually saw some pretty positive stuff on him..

Don’t care. He sucks.

Wisconsin_Chief 08-28-2020 12:14 PM

The Love pick was never really about him or his talent. It was about Matt LaFleur showing Aaron Rodgers that he was no longer in charge.

The Packers organization is full of big egos and politicians. They are basically the exact opposite of what the Chiefs are. Winning comes secondary to people flexing their muscles and proving who’s the boss. They don’t care about winning. They are interested in raking in cash and building a miniature version of Vatican City around Lambeau Field. That’s been their main point of emphasis the last 10 years. Buying up all the property within 5 miles of Lambeau and putting up offices and condos to make even more money.

It’s sad, really. Watching them take what Wolf and Holmgren built and turning it into a giant shit show. They are a joke of an organization.

MahomesMagic 08-28-2020 12:19 PM

Rookie QB learning his 3rd scheme/offense in 3 years. He has plenty of time to get ready before he's seeing live bullets.

Peter Gibbons 08-28-2020 12:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 15135974)
Heh.

Jordan Loves to suck balls.

I am now thinking Aaron Rodgers will come to like him.

Titty Meat 08-28-2020 12:27 PM

SNR you had me excited seeing that thread title

dj56dt58 08-28-2020 12:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Demonpenz (Post 15135997)
if mahomes came in and dominated he would have started day one. Love will be fine, just got to give him a year or two.

Mahomes was causing jaw drops from day one

Sorry 08-28-2020 12:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Why Not? (Post 15135947)
A QB from Utah State sucks against pros or rookies from big schools? Who woulda thunk it? Terrible pick and I’m a fan of a school in the same conference.

I always enjoy your Hawaiians when they face off against my bulldogs. No matter how terrible either team may be at the time it is always competitive.


Packers were absolutely dogshit insane drafting a QB and not a playmaker for aaron

Why Not? 08-28-2020 12:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sorry (Post 15136136)
I always enjoy your Hawaiians when they face off against my bulldogs. No matter how terrible either team may be at the time it is always competitive.


Always! Unfortunately we won’t be able to see it this year😢

Shiver Me Timbers 08-28-2020 01:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiefspants (Post 15135971)
Who is the next Todd Blackledge?

I was thinking the same exact thing

htismaqe 08-28-2020 01:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Titty Meat (Post 15136089)
SNR you had me excited seeing that thread title

ROFL

RealSNR 08-28-2020 02:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wisconsin_Chief (Post 15136062)
The Love pick was never really about him or his talent. It was about Matt LaFleur showing Aaron Rodgers that he was no longer in charge.

The Packers organization is full of big egos and politicians. They are basically the exact opposite of what the Chiefs are. Winning comes secondary to people flexing their muscles and proving who’s the boss. They don’t care about winning. They are interested in raking in cash and building a miniature version of Vatican City around Lambeau Field. That’s been their main point of emphasis the last 10 years. Buying up all the property within 5 miles of Lambeau and putting up offices and condos to make even more money.

It’s sad, really. Watching them take what Wolf and Holmgren built and turning it into a giant shit show. They are a joke of an organization.

Wow. Did Jerry Jones become the owner and I just missed the news headline?

wazu 08-28-2020 02:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wisconsin_Chief (Post 15136062)
The Love pick was never really about him or his talent. It was about Matt LaFleur showing Aaron Rodgers that he was no longer in charge.

The Packers organization is full of big egos and politicians. They are basically the exact opposite of what the Chiefs are. Winning comes secondary to people flexing their muscles and proving who’s the boss. They don’t care about winning. They are interested in raking in cash and building a miniature version of Vatican City around Lambeau Field. That’s been their main point of emphasis the last 10 years. Buying up all the property within 5 miles of Lambeau and putting up offices and condos to make even more money.

It’s sad, really. Watching them take what Wolf and Holmgren built and turning it into a giant shit show. They are a joke of an organization.

The real irony is that if Jordan Love does, in fact, suck balls, that means Aaron Rodgers is more in charge than ever before.

PattyFlakes 08-28-2020 02:16 PM

I thought he was supposed to be the next Mahomes? What a brutal pick, and a terrible looking draft overall. That organization has set a fine example on how to waste the prime of a HoF QB.

MahomesMagic 08-28-2020 02:21 PM

Aaron Rodgers will turn 37 this year. QB is the most important position.

I like the Love pick. Their 2nd rounder was puzzling but that was the Packers trying to copy Tennessee.

Otter 08-28-2020 02:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DRM08 (Post 15135966)
I never understood the comparison of Love to Mahomes. I just don’t see it in Love’s college tape. Same thing with the Drew Lock comparisons to Mahomes.

I've only watched PM maybe a dozen times and said to myself 'that MF has the potential the be the next Elway." He even has that 1/2 walk 1/2 jog the same as Elway did if you watch two.

The look on my face when the Chiefs traded up and drafted him must have been similar to someone checking a lottery ticket and finding out it's worth a million bucks but still unable to comprehend what just happened.

Now if you'll excuse me I've developed a shoulder cramp from patting myself in the back this entire post while typing with one hand.

Gravedigger 08-28-2020 02:28 PM

LaFluer fell into the trap of everyone spreading the rumors "He could be the next Patrick Mahomes!" He fell for it, and fell for it hard. We'll see how it works out in the future but so far looks like the worst use of a 1st round pick since Tim Tebow. We'll see.... but yeah good job McDaniels 2.0 if it stays the same.

PattyFlakes 08-28-2020 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by MahomesMagic (Post 15136329)
Aaron Rodgers will turn 37 this year. QB is the most important position.

I like the Love pick. Their 2nd rounder was puzzling but that was the Packers trying to copy Tennessee.


I don't fault them for trying to plan ahead and find their QbotF but I wasn't a big fan of them trading up for a QB that raw, when you could've stayed put and drafted some help for your still very capable QB who got you within a game of the Super Bowl the previous year. I thought the approach should've been to go all in this season with Rodgers, and add some weapons to help him out this season. But it looks like they're content with Adams and a bunch of JAGs on Offense.

Wisconsin_Chief 08-28-2020 02:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 15136289)
Wow. Did Jerry Jones become the owner and I just missed the news headline?

In a nutshell, that’s actually kind of the case. Obviously there is no official owner but since Bob Harlan turned the reigns over to Mark Murphy the number one priority has gone from winning to being as profitable as possible. He spearheaded this whole “Titletown” project of buying up all the land and that’s really all they’re focused on.

I know a guy who had a little house right next to the stadium, his driveway was literally right next to one of the parking lot entrances. House was less than 1200 square feet and they gave him almost 2 million for it.

It’s cool in a way but they have really destroyed a lot of the charm and the on field product has suffered greatly. It’s just not their main focus anymore. They want it to be a full scale entertainment complex more than a football team.

Pasta Little Brioni 08-28-2020 04:27 PM

Turd

OrtonsPiercedTaint 08-28-2020 05:13 PM

He will work his way up

Pablo 08-28-2020 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by OrtonsPiercedTaint (Post 15136662)
He will work his way up

Yeah, they might even let him dress for games in a couple of years.

scho63 08-28-2020 06:07 PM

I really thought that Jordan Love was coming out a gay based on the thread title.

Oh well, instead another over rated, over hyped QB to add to the pile.....

PHOG 08-28-2020 06:45 PM

Who? :shrug:

Redbled 08-28-2020 07:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dj56dt58 (Post 15136112)
Mahomes was causing jaw drops from day one

Yes but remember the story of all the int’s that first training camp.

MahiMike 08-28-2020 07:05 PM

Buddy Love

JakeF 08-29-2020 12:10 AM

A little early to reach that conclusion, isn't it?

Pablo 08-29-2020 12:13 AM

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Originally Posted by JakeF (Post 15137163)
A little early to reach that conclusion, isn't it?

No. Some folks were born to suck. Look in a mirror.

tk13 08-29-2020 12:33 AM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-conversation="none"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Jordan Love. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Packers?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Packers</a> <a href="https://t.co/hBB3UpROPA">pic.twitter.com/hBB3UpROPA</a></p>&mdash; Jim Owczarski (@JimOwczarski) <a href="https://twitter.com/JimOwczarski/status/1299387014584979458?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 28, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Halfcan 08-29-2020 12:38 AM

Rodgers is so friendly and giving, he will probably coach Love to be his replacement.

Gravedigger 08-29-2020 12:38 AM

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Originally Posted by tk13 (Post 15137170)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-conversation="none"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Jordan Love. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Packers?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Packers</a> <a href="https://t.co/hBB3UpROPA">pic.twitter.com/hBB3UpROPA</a></p>&mdash; Jim Owczarski (@JimOwczarski) <a href="https://twitter.com/JimOwczarski/status/1299387014584979458?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 28, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Smooth... LMAO

smithandrew051 08-29-2020 07:23 AM

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Originally Posted by tk13 (Post 15137170)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-conversation="none"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Jordan Love. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Packers?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Packers</a> <a href="https://t.co/hBB3UpROPA">pic.twitter.com/hBB3UpROPA</a></p>&mdash; Jim Owczarski (@JimOwczarski) <a href="https://twitter.com/JimOwczarski/status/1299387014584979458?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 28, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Best replies:

-It’s early. Y’all chill.
-Yeah....he didn't have a linebacker or defensive end in his face. He'll get better when that occurs

RealSNR 08-29-2020 07:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Redbled (Post 15136820)
Yes but remember the story of all the int’s that first training camp.

INTs are one thing.

Being a pussy bitch and throwing weak sauce in practice are another.

Pablo 08-29-2020 09:36 AM

Man, the Packers so, so deserve this kind of turd at the helm.

Skyy God 08-29-2020 10:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smithandrew051 (Post 15137272)
Best replies:

-It’s early. Y’all chill.
-Yeah....he didn't have a linebacker or defensive end in his face. He'll get better when that occurs

That’s Lamar at the Pro Bowl-esque.

New World Order 08-29-2020 10:45 AM

Good. Keep Rodgers there as long as possible

Don't need him going to NE

cripple creek 08-29-2020 11:31 AM

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RunKC 08-31-2020 12:23 PM

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Just a reminder of what happened in Mahomes first camp that people outside of KC also freaked out about

WhiteWhale 08-31-2020 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 15137280)
INTs are one thing.

Being a pussy bitch and throwing weak sauce in practice are another.

Andy encourages qbs to take chances and risk int's in practice. He wants his qbs to push to their limits so they know what they can get away with.

Andy, in two different offseasons, lamented about alex smith playing too safe in practice and NOT taking enough risks.

That's the point of practice.

Love is going to be terrible. He isnt good.

RealSNR 06-09-2021 12:38 PM

He continued to suck balls on the first day of minicamp.

Apparently today he looked a lot better.

Verdict: He's still never going to be Rodgers or Mahomes, so tell Titty Meat to roll out vaseline!

https://www.startribune.com/aaron-ro...alk/600066365/

htismaqe 06-09-2021 01:00 PM

Can't wait until they trade him to the Broncos.

Skyy God 06-09-2021 02:14 PM

Antagonizing a HOF QB for this epic bust should get Gutekunt fired.


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