Are today’s Chargers what it was like to play against Marty’s Chiefs?
 

Incredible D line, stout fundamentals (outside of 98), can slow down even the best offenses.

And yet... a refusal to take gambles and a dagger loss in the 4th/OT

Wildly enough, this is the 4th game in a row Bradley has slowed us down. He is a stout defensive mind, and now that we can’t count on Rivers to toss multiple dumbass picks to keep us in the lead, they might be a stout rival.

...but we know how that formula ends 99 times out of 100.

Schott had Elway, the AFCW has Mahomes.

Difference being, Schott beat most everyone but Elway with abandon, nearly a decade undefeated against the Raiders.

AFCW [Chargers in particular] returns to the mean as soon as the Chiefs leave the field.

100%

I felt bad for them.

Andy almost Marty'd us at the end, it was kind of stupid.

The Chiefs are led by Michael Jordan in cleats

Yes, and instead of Elway spoiling games in the West it is not PMII...

We all know how that one Chargers fan out there somewhere feels. Watch your team beat the shit out of your opponent and then watch their superior QB rip your heart out.

We’ve seen that for decades here.

probably so, good thought.

Romo was right; the Chargers weren't going to win after they punted in OT.

Bradley is a stout defensive mind, but the Chargers D will play much worse against other opponents, and they will probably go 9-7 at best.

The Chargers got shit ass lucky against Randy Bullock last week. This week the odds were probably on their side. It's not often that a kicker can come through with two career high tying 58-yarders like that. The good luck they enjoyed last week came back to collect on its debt this week.j

I will continue to doubt Anthony Lynn as a head coach. We'll see about Justin Herbert.

I think they took a lot of gambles today. How many times did they go for it on 4th down.

They look just like the 49ers to me. I miss Philip Rivers already.

One too few. They should have done it in overtime.

A lot. That, along with TOP is the only way to win. Chargers had an entire quarter on us in TOP.

Also, that’s the kind of loss that could really derail the mental side for LA. They thought they had the boogeyman, and poof, they didn’t.

It’s incredibly discouraging.

I don’t think so. They took us to OT with a rookie QB in his first game. Herbert has work to do but there were some things for him to build on.

Agreed. Watching Marty in the playoffs was baffling. Random 4th and 6th from the 50? Time for a fake punt.

4th and 1 from the 30? Time to kick.

Really no excuse for LA to not go for it in OT. You can not willingly give it back to Pat in OT no matter how good your D is.

Yeah, I would have gone for it on 4th and 1 at the 30. If I get it, great it extends the drive. If not, oh well, it wouldn't make any difference if I punted or went for it and failed, because of the Chiefs offense is just very difficult to contain on a consistent basis.

you keep saying this, but no

I don't know if that's a fair comparison because Marty no way in Hades starts a rookie QB in his actual first start just 15 minutes prior against the defending SB champs who have an ALL WORLD GOAT QB. Marty still goes with Brock Huard off the bench. But I get your point.

But when you really think about it, Mahomes damn near got beat by a rookie QB in his first start with very little or no 1st team reps notified of his starting just 15 minutes prior to the start of the game and you know Mahomes was thinking about this and it definitely motivated him for sure I assure you.;)

I think the Chiefs came in flat and when they found out the rookie was starting at QB they became even more flat. And you could definitely tell our o-line underestimated SD's defense for sure.

Just imagine IF James had played today.

No, they pass too much.

But it showed something I said at halftime in the game thread. Lead in yards and time of possession but don't score points and you're in trouble.

Punting in OT was the right move, probably, by the percentages. But the point is well taken, their defense kept them in the game when their offense did very little throughout, but your defense can’t keep giving you stops forever. Eventually you have to go win the game and you can’t keep giving the other team’s offense more chances to beat you. Even when your running game is effective you have to finish drives and convert third downs at the end.

Schefter tweeted out that if Taylor is healthy he will play. Could just be something you say though.

Shirley they can’t go back to a journeyman after the kid played pretty well today.

By percentages it was about equal but that’s too rigid. Those percentages include data from opponents like the Bears and Bengals. The Chiefs are an outlier offense and should be treated as such by opponents.

Tbh this is probably the highest praise you’ve ever given one of my threads.

Well IF Lynn goes back to Taylor maybe Chief pants is correct about the Marty comparison:D

To be fair Herbert had no reps this week while only learning he was starting right before the game and still looked serviceable.

The Chiefs defense had prepared to play the style of ball that comes with Taylor.

They had to throw away their whole defensive game plan from the start and never seemed to really lock in against LA.

Woof

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">LAC decided to punt to KC from the LAC 34 on 4th &amp; 1 with 7:57 remaining in OT while tied 20 to 20.<br><br>With a Surrender Index of 16.22, this punt ranks at the 99.5th percentile of cowardly punts of the 2020 season, and the 96th percentile of all punts since 2009.</p>&mdash; Surrender Index (@surrender_index) <a href="https://twitter.com/surrender_index/status/1307824704049348610?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 20, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

LMAO

On a Chargers forum somewhere, their fans are bemoaning The Second Coming of Marty.

Well Marty never drafted a QB in the first round so it's different in that regard

They’ll stick with the rookie, and don’t call me Shirley. :)

This /thread.

Punting was, and still is, the right call. The Chiefs had stuffed the run 5 or 6 straight times. Give them the ball back there and the game is over.

Did Marty draft Rivers or was it already Norm’s team at that time?

Marty drafted Brees and Eli Manning.. ;)

And in typical Marty fashion, watched them win Super Bowls with other franchises.

If there was anyone who carried on Marty’s postseason success, it’s Phillip Rivers.

Uh well they seem to definitely be about to make a huge Grbac over Gannon mistake



<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Anthony Lynn elaborating on why Tyrod Taylor is still his starter: &quot;There&#39;s a lot we didn&#39;t get done with Justin on the field yesterday. He&#39;s a backup for a reason.&quot; <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chargers?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chargers</a></p>&mdash; Daniel Popper (@danielrpopper) <a href="https://twitter.com/danielrpopper/status/1308145762707021824?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 21, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Me looking at my mentions right now <a href="https://t.co/HRTSAZg3ml">pic.twitter.com/HRTSAZg3ml</a></p>&mdash; Daniel Popper (@danielrpopper) <a href="https://twitter.com/danielrpopper/status/1308150339925766144?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 21, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>




That's the Chargers beat reporter. Twitter just exploded with angry Charger fans.


Yes all ten of them

I can’t wait until the Chargers lose 10-13 against the Broncos and Lynn applies none of that same criticism to his starter.

I have a lot of respect for Lynn, btw. He's really been a great adversary to Pat and Andy and slowed us down in our last four matchups.

It is really weird and fun to be in the role of Elway and the other team being the Chiefs knowing they just can't win unless they have Joe Montana. After that 2pt conversion - they didn't seem mad or even frustrated, they just looked shell-shocked.