Dude implies the Chiefs cheated..
 

I think this is laughable personally.

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He didn't pick up anything he touched the turf with his hand for touching the spot of the kick that went through the up rights that won us the game.

Remember when this was us?

What exactly could have been put down to help there? A quarter to mark your spot on a golf green? Make no sense how there could be any implication of cheating there.

Yeah, the guy asking the question is an actual holder. The op might be misleading because he doesn't look like he's accusing, just picked up on something and is curious what's going on. He does look like he's picking up something. But its hard to imagine any scenario that would actually help with the kick.

The ball is on the lightning bolt - it's bright ****ing yellow.

If there were a foreign object there, it would be plainly visible. :rolleyes:

Is he replacing a piece of turf?

Is it legal to rip up a piece of turf to place the ball in?

This is correct.

He put down a magical silver dollar that when used to kick a ball, has MAGICAL POWERS!

A divot would have showed up, you'd have a black hole in the middle of the yellow.

Pretty clear that the reason Butker has been so good is the Chiefs have somehow figured out how to place and set the ball perfectly onto a microscopic kicking tee. Hopefully Colquitt doesn't rat them out now that he's a Steeler.

It's pretty sad, I think his implication is that is it a little tee of some sort but cmon it'd be really noticeable.

Is it like the pick of destiny? Does this mean Butker can do a cock push-up??

Someone in the mentions makes a good point.

A kick is so regimented and so specifically timed that if the ball isn't down within an inch of where that ball is expected to be placed, it's gonna get missed.

It isn't about just catching it and putting it on its nose wherever so the kicker can adjust and drill it. The foot's essentially on its way down and the holder has to put the ball in the path of the foot, no?

So what it is would be akin to 'X marks the spot'. Butker takes a couple of warm-up kicks, watches where his foot is coming through and tells Newsome - "put the ball HERE. Not a half inch to the left or right of here, but right !@#$ing here".

So Newsome 'marks the spot' with something he can immediately see and know exactly where to put the ball.

I'll bet even money that's it.

No idea if that's legal but I'd be surprised if it isn't. Kickers are so precise that it's gotta be hard to know exactly where that ball comes down without drawing a little target, so to speak.

REALLY noticeable against the yellow. Unless they had a yellow micro-tee (which of course would stick out like a sore thumb anywhere else on the field).

So ridiculous.

This is exactly what it is. He marked the spot, somehow. There is zero chance it's a tee of any sort.

Though I did just notice the strut.

Butker's back is to that ball for 3 seconds before it clears the uprights.

That dude was locked in like nothing you'll ever see. I wonder if he'd have hit from 65. If he needed 68 I think he had it. I mean lord, he was FEELING it.

A foreign object of any kind would have been visible in the bottom video. It's in high def.

If something were picked up, it would've been in his right hand. He runs over and jumps on Butker, and then you see his right hand hanging at his side, open. Doesn't appear to have anything in his grasp. So sounds like the rookie needs to buy us a new micro-tee.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> kicker Harrison Butker said two pretty wild things after the game <br><br>- he got angrier each of the three kicks at the end of the game<br>- he hit from 67 before the game and 70 at halftime, so 58 meant he could “swing easy”</p>&mdash; Pete Sweeney (@pgsween) <a href="https://twitter.com/pgsween/status/1307861345384235008?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 21, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

My guess was some kind of ball marker too. If he is doing something illegal I find it really hard to believe another NFL team wouldn't have picked up on it. Particularly considering we play the Patriots every year. No way Belichick's staff would miss something like that.

I'm really hoping Soren is the one who asks Andy about this.

I'll give Townsend credit, a rooking holding in that spot is tough and he did the job every time, feel comfortable with him now.

He could've made some kind of divot marker on the field considering Butker had just kicked from that spot 30 seconds before that. It might've gave the two time to say something or make a quick mark for where to place the ball.

Claynus is a big Twitter head - and I see his post up there. He'll handle that dude, I'm sure.

At some point, it might be nice to get a youngin to replace Winchester's holding ass.

You would have seen a divot in the paint.

I'm watching the video in HD on a 27" screen. There's literally nothing there. No divot, no foreign object, nothing.

It's bright yellow paint. Unless they are using a bright yellow tiddly wink for a marker, there's simply nothing there.

BTW, the answer to Matthew Stephenson is "your wife."

Do we have video of the field goal from earlier in the game?

Winchester has had some shit moments, that Titans game last year I was ready to cut him, he lost that game as a long snapper.

LMAO

Sure looks like the guy has something in his hand here:

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yeah, it's his left hand, but watch the video - he scoops it with his right and then puts his hand together in front of his body as he's running to Butker. I'm pretty positive that's the 'transfer' that gets it to his left hand.

That's just a couple of 'unnatural' acts. Why would he reach/scoop with his right after using his left to boost himself up? And why is he clearly pinching something between his fingers with his left shortly thereafter? Sure seems to point to the conclusion that he picked something up and was holding it.

But where I keep coming to is that it's probably legal. I mean...surely they aren't that blatant. Or it's some kind of 'unwritten rule' thing where nobody cares.

Its pretty clear that its one of the newer modern tees which have the ability launch the ball another 10-15 yards.

I looked - didn't see anything.

I was thinking that yesterday lol

It seems like the amount of times the refs rat**** us has gone down tremendously, but the truth is, we just weren't a great team back when we thought the refs were against us. These days a dumbass, ticky tack penalty isn't a drive killer like it used to be.

Look at his left hand IMMEDIATELY after the ball is kicked. He's pinching his fingers together before he ever touches the field with his right hand. It's a gesture, it's something in his ritual. There's nothing in his left hand.

It's probably a booger. Check the video, see if he's rolling it between his fingers before flicking it off.

The refs were acting like they got an extra $25000 for each holding penalty they called on the Chiefs yesterday. Pat simply didn't let it bother him.

What if he is a big time booger guy and he picked a monster and laid it on the turf. Butker hits the kick and he decides that’s his lucky booger now, can’t let it go.

The refs are just shitty, IMO. They **** up frequently and more often than not one of the teams is going to draw the short end of the stick so it seems like the officials have an agenda.

The game yesterday was a decent example. The Chargers converted a 4th and 1 in which their RG clearly moved wayyy early. I believe they ended up scoring points on that drive. Then we had a couple tough holding calls against us on our final drive.. but if the refs were truly looking to **** us, they wouldn't have missed Tyreek taking his helmet off after his TD.

This is right after the ball left Butker's foot.

He's already pinching the fingers in his left hand before he "picked up the object" in question.

He can do 1. 1 cock push up.

It was a torn up piece of Joey Bosa’s written down cardio plan.

The old Chiefs lose that game due to the penalties called at the end of regulation

This confirms it. It was a booger.

Somebody local ...

Please, please, please ... call Petro and ask him to bring this up in the next presser.

TIA

FAX

It’s obvious hit nuts dug up some turf with those 3 kicks.

I watched the video and it definitely looks like he picks something up. I don't play golf but maybe he is marking it like you would do when you putt.

Planet burst.... LMAO

If he's putting down a ball marker, it is 1) bright yellow and 2) the size of a dime or smaller.

You'd be able to see anything else.

Im not sure I’ve ever been that confident of anything in my whole life.

Much less a record tying field goal. Jesus.

LOL. I don’t even know what to say to that. At 70 does he have to take into account the Coriolis effect? I’d hate to lose a game because the kicker doesn’t know the earth is moving.

Well one is all ya need...

"When asked about his near-miss 78 yard game-winner that bounced off the left upright, Butker responded 'yeah, I forgot to check the position of the moon - ****ing tidal pull will get you every time...'"

I mean that's just the swingingest dick move I've ever seen from a kicker. Just hilarious.

He didn't actually kick the ball far at all. He just kicked it high and the uprights circled around to accept it.

I don't think he did have anything there....but for the sake of this thread - suppose he had a clear piece of plastic - like a clear tiddily wink to use as a place marker. He would be able to see it from his distance, but anyone six feet away would not be able to see it.

It was Tommy Townsend in the library with the lead pipe

Wait... if you watch the video on the 14 second mark, you can clearly watch NFL crew chief Carl Chaffers bend down on the field to pick up his payment that Andy Reid dropped there just moments before.

Yep, this game was surely fixed. They just threw in some of those extra penalties against the Chiefs to make it interesting.

You can make light of this situation with jokes all you want. It won't change the fact the Chiefs holder sprinkled magical field goal fairy dust and the Chiefs are a bunch of cheating whores!

Boogergate.

My 2020 Bingo Card runneth over.

FAX

It was Joe Niekro's emery board

Probably just Townsends hair brush.

I thew my slides every time they called holding.

Looking through the NFL official rule book (below quoted information) was all I could find.

Whatever Tommy "Pete" Townsend had in his hand was not large enough to be a tee.

I think we are good.

It's a marker
 

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That's a damn tiny marker. :D

He might have been picking a small piece of turf to send to Canton. The Hall of Fame likes stuff like "here's a piece of the turf near where Harrison Butker kicked three straight 50+ yard field goals in overtime".

But yeah, if it's anything at all I bet it's a spot marker of some sort. I've never heard that such a thing is illegal.

Thanks for posting. That was a good video showing how he uses a marker.

Looks like it. Butker seems to press his foot onto it.

Is a marker considered to be a "tee"?

There’s no need to be indignant about it. There’s not a thing wrong with cheating in professional sports.

Good detective work.

Did Colquitt do that, or is that a Tommy thing?

don't worry; millions of idiots across the country will claim that the marker represented an unfair advantage in the kicking game, and had an impact on the game.


meanwhile, they'll say that an under-inflated football doesn't matter.

Hey and props to the holder!

I love kicking long as FGs!

GUYS THIS IS THE MARKER HE PUT DOWN TO MARK THE PLACE SPOT, MATCHES THE YELLOW PAINT, IT'S PERFECTLY LEGAL!!! #EXCLUSIVECONTENT

I hope they let let him boot a 68 or 70-yarder in a garbage-time situation.

I didn't see Colquitt do it in any of the videos that I've looked at.

Did the Chiefs have 12 men on the field if Willie Gay walks on the field while the ball is on the way ?????? If the ref's had seen it, would they call it and make them kick from 63 yards ?

10/25/2020 - Kansas City Chiefs @ Denver Broncos might be a good opportunity to try one of those 68 - 70 yard kicks.

Oh, and it might be kind of hard to use that troll doll marker since the tummy height might count as a tee. The quarter in the picture might be more like what they use.

Best chance of ever doing that would be right before halftime. Especially if they could do the free kick rule. You see it every few years. If you fair catch a punt, you're allowed to do a free kick on the next play where the defense can't rush or block you. That would be the perfect time to try it.

Here's the thing, though - what are the odds that there's so little time on the clock that Andy doesn't take a shot?

I mean lets say for shit's and giggles they're punting from their own 10 and sky one to prevent a return so it's hanging there at the 50 and the fair catch is called.

If there's even 8 seconds left in that half, Andy's gonna give Mahomes a shot to pick up 10 yards. With no timeouts he might STILL try it.

It may happen someday, but those are pretty long odds. Andy's just so aggressive and has so much faith in Mahomes to not do anything stupid that I can't see him taking that free kick opportunity unless the clock's at 0:00 and at that point he might just have Toub send a punt block and not have anyone deep at all.