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lewdog 10-18-2020 02:16 PM

Who is the best running back in the NFL?
 
Let's discuss.

The positions used to be heavily regarded but the game has changed and serviceable backs seem to be common place in many years.

However, let's discuss the best back in the league. Who is it?

pugsnotdrugs19 10-18-2020 02:17 PM

Henry is the best running back, McCaffrey is the best all around HB.

eDave 10-18-2020 02:18 PM

Lamar Jackson

BWillie 10-18-2020 02:19 PM

Future Hall of Famer, Derrick Henry.

notorious 10-18-2020 02:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eDave (Post 15253668)
Lamar Jackson


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Deberg_1990 10-18-2020 02:22 PM

Kamara

LoneWolf 10-18-2020 02:22 PM

Jonathan Taylor.

Hog's Gone Fishin 10-18-2020 02:25 PM

Derrick Henry. And he proved it today.

ThaVirus 10-18-2020 02:29 PM

I like Kamara but you really can't go wrong with Henry, CMC, Zeke, Hunt or Chubb.

penguinz 10-18-2020 02:31 PM

Darwin Thompson

SuperBowl4 10-18-2020 02:35 PM

EZEKIEL ELLIOTT

lcarus 10-18-2020 02:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 15253744)
I like Kamara but you really can't go wrong with Henry, CMC, Zeke, Hunt or Chubb.

Or Barkley when healthy. If he's the same after the injuries anyway....

mililo4cpa 10-18-2020 02:39 PM

I think it's gotta be Henry....

Kamara perhaps, with the way he's carrying the Saints.....

Simply Red 10-18-2020 03:00 PM

I'd say Peyton Hillis

Megatron96 10-18-2020 03:02 PM

Statistically it's hard not to say Dalvin Cook.

BWillie 10-18-2020 03:22 PM

It would kind of suck to be a team like Tennessee. You have the best RB in the game so you have to resort to the least effective way to score. It caps how good your team can be. But you have no choice but to run your offense thru him. Tannehill is Ryan Fitzpatrick if he doesn't rely on that play action passing system.

Reminds me of having Alex Smiff. You know you'll be good. But you know you wont be good enough.

ThaVirus 10-18-2020 03:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lcarus (Post 15253773)
Or Barkley when healthy. If he's the same after the injuries anyway....

Barkley is clearly very good, but it's difficult to truly assess what he's got going on while he's playing for such a shitty team.

At this point, I'd probably put him in the second tier with guys like Dalvin Cook, Josh Jacobs and Joe Mixon. I guess I'd prob throw Aaron Jones in this second tier as well.

Rasputin 10-18-2020 04:29 PM

You can have all those running backs but I'm with Mahomes on taking CE-H to win Super Bowls with.

CarlosCarson27 10-18-2020 04:31 PM

Mccaffrey, but he's injured, so..

htismaqe 10-18-2020 04:33 PM

It's McCaffrey.

Deberg_1990 10-18-2020 04:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 15253912)
It would kind of suck to be a team like Tennessee. You have the best RB in the game so you have to resort to the least effective way to score. It caps how good your team can be. But you have no choice but to run your offense thru him. Tannehill is Ryan Fitzpatrick if he doesn't rely on that play action passing system.

Reminds me of having Alex Smiff. You know you'll be good. But you know you wont be good enough.

Well. You have to best utilize the talent you’ve been given.

Not every team can have a Mahomes. That’s why he’s special. The Titans are doing it right.

Rasputin 10-18-2020 04:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LoneWolf (Post 15253701)
Jonathan Taylor.

I wouldn't trade Clyde Edwards-Helaire for Jonathan Taylor.

htismaqe 10-18-2020 04:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 15254155)
Well. You have to best utilize the talent you’ve been given.

Not every team can have a Mahomes. That’s why he’s special. The Titans are doing it right.

They gave big contracts to Tannehill and Henry. They're not doing it right, they're doing it the only way they know how.

Rasputin 10-18-2020 04:38 PM

The league is just lucky we haven't re re re re re re re signed CJSpiller again.

Deberg_1990 10-18-2020 04:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 15254161)
They gave big contracts to Tannehill and Henry. They're not doing it right, they're doing it the only way they know how.

Who were they going to get that was better for their system? It’s still a business. You have to attract fans, you have to keep winning. What would you have done?

htismaqe 10-18-2020 04:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 15254164)
Who were they going to get that was better for their system? It’s still a business. You have to attract fans, you have to keep winning. What would you have done?

If the goal is to win a Super Bowl, you don't build your offense around a RB and play action. Especially when your defense isn't great.

Rasputin 10-18-2020 04:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 15253673)
Future Hall of Famer, Derrick Henry.

We handled Derrick Henry pretty well in the playoffs but we are better served with Clyde Edward-Helaire in the playoffs.

Deberg_1990 10-18-2020 04:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 15254172)
If the goal is to win a Super Bowl, you don't build your offense around a RB and play action. Especially when your defense isn't great.

I get that. But if you don’t have a Mahomes, you still have to be competitive and keep winning. What they should be doing he looking for a better QB than Tannehill in the draft. Like the chiefs did with Alex Smith.

htismaqe 10-18-2020 04:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 15254184)
I get that. But if you don’t have a Mahomes, you still have to be competitive and keep winning. What they should be doing he looking for a better QB than Tannehill in the draft. Like the chiefs did with Alex Smith.

The problem is that they gotta pay Henry now. I'm just not a fan of building around a RB. Not in 2020.

Sofa King 10-18-2020 04:49 PM

CMC

jdubya 10-18-2020 05:11 PM

Bo Jackson

htismaqe 10-18-2020 05:13 PM

The funny thing about this discussion...

If you took the whole list of names in this thread, you'd have a who's who of teams that are .500 or worse, other than Henry.

Just goes to show you how much the game has changed.

Demonpenz 10-18-2020 07:24 PM

When healthy Barkley is up there

Marcellus 10-18-2020 07:29 PM

Reading CP I would be led to believe its Leveon Bell. :D

scho63 10-18-2020 07:30 PM

1. Cook
2. McCaffrey
3. Henry
4. Hunt
5. Jackson

Chiefshrink 10-18-2020 07:32 PM

Arnold Morgado

Jewish Rabbi 10-18-2020 07:32 PM

Toss up between CEH and Bell, IMO.

Basileus777 10-18-2020 07:35 PM

It's Kamara, he's carried his offense. Henry was only averaging 3 yards a carry before today.

jerryaldini 10-18-2020 07:43 PM

Last week Cook, who had highest DVOA, gets hurt and his backup steps in and gets even bigger numbers. Hard to say who is best because scheme and line play are most of it. Chubb has best YAC.

Jewish Rabbi 10-18-2020 07:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Basileus777 (Post 15254527)
It's Kamara, he's carried his offense. Henry was only averaging 3 yards a carry before today.

Wrong

Rasputin 10-18-2020 07:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jewish Rabbi (Post 15254515)
Toss up between CEH and Bell, IMO.

Someone must have accadently hit thumbs down on this post but I hit thumbs up. I'd go with CEH as he is young and hungry and we will benefit from him more in the playoffs but regular season I think Bell makes up for losing D Williams even though we drafted Clyde before they knew D Williams was going opt out for the season.

Delano 10-18-2020 07:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scho63 (Post 15254507)
1. Cook
2. McCaffrey
3. Henry
4. Hunt
5. Jackson


Hunt isn't even the best running back on his team.

chiefzilla1501 10-18-2020 08:03 PM

Probably depends on the offense. Henry is great but probably best for a ball control team. McCaffrey if you want a your rb very involved in the passing game. I kinda like zeke as the best for a conventional offense though it doesn't help that his defense has been dogshit this year.

RaidersOftheCellar 10-18-2020 08:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by penguinz (Post 15253751)
Darwin Thompson

Can’t wait til the secret weapon is unleashed on some unsuspecting saps in the Super Bowl.

Jewish Rabbi 10-18-2020 08:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rasputin (Post 15254560)
Someone must have accadently hit thumbs down on this post but I hit thumbs up. I'd go with CEH as he is young and hungry and we will benefit from him more in the playoffs but regular season I think Bell makes up for losing D Williams even though we drafted Clyde before they knew D Williams was going opt out for the season.

It better have been an accident or I’m going to shit in Basileus’ mouth!!!

Basileus777 10-18-2020 08:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jewish Rabbi (Post 15254545)
Wrong

Nope.

Rausch 10-18-2020 08:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Demonpenz (Post 15254498)
When healthy Barkley is up there

When healthy it's him, easy.

3 Years ago it was Bell.

I think Chubb is underrated and I think Henry is still underrated.

Systems determine effectiveness of QB's and HB's. In Pitt Henry would be an MVP option. Hell, he might be anyway.

I think Barkley would fit our offense perfectly while Henry would do better somewhere like Pitt, Baltimore, Buffalo, etc...

Jewish Rabbi 10-18-2020 08:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Basileus777 (Post 15254603)
Nope.

I’m going to shit in your mouth!!!

Basileus777 10-18-2020 08:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jewish Rabbi (Post 15254647)
I’m going to shit in your mouth!!!

It won't change how Henry was averaging 3 ypc before today.


The best backs are those productive in all phases of the game, like Kamara. Not dudes just getting a ton of carries.

Jewish Rabbi 10-18-2020 08:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Basileus777 (Post 15254657)
It won't change how Henry was averaging 3 ypc before today.


The best backs are those productive in all phases of the game, like Kamara. Not dudes just getting a ton of carries.

Wrong

Tribal Warfare 10-18-2020 08:39 PM

1) Henry

2) McCaffrey

3) Kareem

ChiefsFanatic 10-19-2020 12:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 15254194)
The problem is that they gotta pay Henry now. I'm just not a fan of building around a RB. Not in 2020.

I think it's easier to replace running back stats with younger, cheaper players via the draft, than the stats of any other skill position players.

Steelers fans were upset when Bell sat out, but for the money they saved not paying Bell, Conner produced very similar stats. No, he did not replace Bell completely, but he was much more cost effective.

The average career length for running backs is a little less that 5 seasons, and depending on their usage, the number of seasons a running back stays elite is less than that.

Two years ago Gurley was an elite running back. Devonta Freeman had two elite seasons. David Johnson had one elite season. Once upon a time, Larry Johnson had back to back 1700 yard seasons, and it was only the 3rd time that had happened in NFL history.

Paying a large percentage of your salary cap to a running back is not a formula for long term success.

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Nickhead 10-19-2020 01:40 AM

Patrick Mahomes, duh!

He doesn't do anything wrong :D

VAGOMO 4 LIFE! 10-19-2020 02:06 AM

Leveon Bell

carcosa 10-19-2020 03:21 AM

Rashaan Shehee!!!!!!

RaidersOftheCellar 10-19-2020 03:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE! (Post 15255017)
Leveon Bell

Could be, frankly. Still at a prime age.

Would any of these other backs have torn it up in that Jets offense?

CupidStunt 10-19-2020 03:33 AM

Henry is not even remotely close to being the best RB in the league. Talk about some insane flavor of the moment. He's definitely the best for occasional stiff-arm and 90-yard TD highlights, but in terms of being a complete package and consistent, FOH.

He and Chubb need their own ranking along with other pure runners. Chubb is a better runner than Hunt, but most GMs would take Hunt before Chubb. The difference between them in the receiving game is much, much, much bigger than the difference in running.

Deberg_1990 10-19-2020 06:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 15254194)
The problem is that they gotta pay Henry now. I'm just not a fan of building around a RB. Not in 2020.

They don’t have to pay him do they? Agreed, I don’t like building around a RB. I’m not sure about his contract status? But I’d let him walk when it’s up.

ThaVirus 10-19-2020 06:40 AM

Henry just got paid

Dunerdr 10-19-2020 06:48 AM

I'd have to say Zeke/Barkley. Both currently on dogshit teams with dogshit lines and dogshit qb play though. CMC is probably the most dangerous over all but the other two are more your conventional RB. And Henry may be the most well used currently to hide his offenses issues, but imo hes far from the most talented or best at anything.

htismaqe 10-19-2020 07:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 15255069)
They don’t have to pay him do they? Agreed, I don’t like building around a RB. I’m not sure about his contract status? But I’d let him walk when it’s up.

They just resigned him over the summer. 4 years, $50M with over $25M guaranteed.

Deberg_1990 10-19-2020 08:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 15255116)
They just resigned him over the summer. 4 years, $50M with over $25M guaranteed.

I would definitely be looking to upgrade from Tannehill in the draft if i were them. Even if they have to move up like the Chiefs did. Hes solid, but nothing truly special

Not sure what their philosophy is about that though? Since Vrabel seems old school.

BlackOp 10-19-2020 08:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 15255176)
I would definitely be looking to upgrade from Tannehill in the draft if i were them.

He's been looking fantastic...people are waiting for him to fall back to earth. It'll take a while for him to shake his stigma with the Dolphins...and being a reclamation QB.

He's a top 4 AFC QB right now...Ben, Lamar, Mahomes.

The Franchise 10-19-2020 08:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 15255176)
I would definitely be looking to upgrade from Tannehill in the draft if i were them. Even if they have to move up like the Chiefs did. Hes solid, but nothing truly special

Not sure what their philosophy is about that though? Since Vrabel seems old school.

They just gave Tannehill a new deal. They aren’t taking a QB high for a year or two.

O.city 10-19-2020 08:50 AM

McCaffrey

CoMoChief 10-19-2020 09:05 AM

Henry

PAChiefsGuy 10-19-2020 09:14 AM

Henry and I don't think it is particularly close. 212 yds rushing yesterday. Pretty amazing

htismaqe 10-19-2020 09:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlackOp (Post 15255227)
He's been looking fantastic...people are waiting for him to fall back to earth. It'll take a while for him to shake his stigma with the Dolphins...and being a reclamation QB.

He's a top 4 AFC QB right now...Ben, Lamar, Mahomes.

He's a reclamation QB for a reason. Right now, they run a ton of play action and it is working. He's playing FAR above his career line. It won't last forever.

Rain Man 10-19-2020 09:36 AM

I've barely seen McCaffrey play, so my only solid knowledge about him is that his father was a wimp who acted like he was injured on every single catch of his career. So I vote no on McCaffrey.

Henry's hard to vote against, and Chubb sure seems effective on Cleveland teams that are erratic. I would like Kamara a lot in our system, and he's great overall. But it's hard to vote against Henry at this point. The guy's a monster.

PAChiefsGuy 10-19-2020 10:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 15255346)
I've barely seen McCaffrey play, so my only solid knowledge about him is that his father was a wimp who acted like he was injured on every single catch of his career. So I vote no on McCaffrey.

Henry's hard to vote against, and Chubb sure seems effective on Cleveland teams that are erratic. I would like Kamara a lot in our system, and he's great overall. But it's hard to vote against Henry at this point. The guy's a monster.

Very rarely do you find an RB with his speed and power. Crazy Titans didn't resign him to a monster contract and instead signed Tannehill. Henry is heart and soul of that team.

gblowfish 10-19-2020 10:17 AM

Henry or Kamara. Dark horse is Kareem Hunt.

Kman34 10-19-2020 10:24 AM

Ubeja is probably having a heart attack over this thread and I love it.....

tk13 10-19-2020 10:29 AM

I think Dalvin Cook is the one who will almost always be underrated in this discussion. Definitely been injury prone, but many RBs are. I think he's really good though.

Hard to beat McCaffery since he's coming off a 1000/1000 yard season. That's pretty rarefied air. Henry is up there, he's a different kind of RB though. In a way his critics are right that he's not as consistent, but that's not how he works. He is basically a battering ram that just wears you down and by the 2nd half he runs over you.

It's funny because he does the same thing over the course of a season. I've seen people criticize him for averaging 3 ypc this year, but it was pretty similar last year. He averaged less than 4 ypc the first half last year, and in November/December he was single handedly mauling teams. He just gets stronger the more he goes. We'll see if that happens this year.

kevrunner 10-19-2020 10:42 AM

1) CMC
2) Barkley
3) Zeke
4) Kamara
5) Henry
6) Cook
7) Jacobs
8) Sanders
9) Mixon
10) Chubb

Rookies:

1) Taylor
2) Swift
3) Dobbins
4) CEH
5) Akers

staylor26 10-19-2020 10:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kevrunner (Post 15255473)
1) CMC
2) Barkley
3) Zeke
4) Kamara
5) Henry
6) Cook
7) Jacobs
8) Sanders
9) Mixon
10) Chubb

Rookies:

1) Taylor
2) Swift
3) Dobbins
4) CEH
5) Akers

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Clyde Edwards-Helaire this season among rookie RBs:<br>�� 344 rush yards (1st)<br>�� 252 rush yards after contact (1st)<br>�� 16 missed tackles forced on runs (1st) <a href="https://t.co/6RU5r2fdB4">pic.twitter.com/6RU5r2fdB4</a></p>&mdash; PFF (@PFF) <a href="https://twitter.com/PFF/status/1317812937126498309?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 18, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

But sure CEH is the 4th best rookie RB :rolleyes:

alpha_omega 10-19-2020 10:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by carcosa (Post 15255029)
Rashaan Shehee!!!!!!

Ha. You misspelled Jesse Haynes.

KChiefs1 10-19-2020 10:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 15253673)
Future Hall of Famer, Derrick Henry.


Derrick Henry IS Jim Brown.

A man playing with boys

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loochy 10-19-2020 10:54 AM

Laveon Bel i dont see how we can loose when he plays 4 us

ThaVirus 10-19-2020 12:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PAChiefsGuy (Post 15255297)
Henry and I don't think it is particularly close. 212 yds rushing yesterday. Pretty amazing

This is ridiculous. Of course it's close.

htismaqe 10-19-2020 12:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PAChiefsGuy (Post 15255422)
Very rarely do you find an RB with his speed and power. Crazy Titans didn't resign him to a monster contract and instead signed Tannehill. Henry is heart and soul of that team.

They signed Henry to a 4-year, $50M contract with $25.5M guaranteed.


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