What's up with Mecole Hardman?
 

Pringle was getting all the snaps down the stretch. Is he in the doghouse? (I'm only partially asking because I started him in fantasy thinking he'd get some looks with Watkins out)

Seems like he's regressed a lot this season, unfortunately...

Yeah, he hasn't progressed as I hoped he would.

He also hasn't done well on his KO's.

His special teams decisions have been shit as well.

Must be spoiling winning the Superbowl during your rookie season.

Yeah he looked totally lost in the return game tonight...

I cant believe we ended up with him instead of dk metcalf.

He has been completely terrible for the entire season.

Hardman is fine. Chiefs only threw the ball 26 times the whole game. It was raining cats and dogs and it was cold; not ideal conditions for passing. Hell, it's Buffalo; place is always windy.

Displays of selfishness running the ball out like that. Needs taped to the goal post.

I was gonna say the same thing. Hell even Tyreek didn't do shit in this game.

He’s not getting it and he shouldn’t be returning kickoffs anymore.

Wasted pick.

We weren't throwing deep or running jet sweeps/push passed and that'd basically all he's really good for on offense. Pringle and Robinson are just better route runners.

JFC the same idiots that have been bitching about CEH have turned their attention to Hardman.

When the gameplan is run the ball down their ****ing throat, you aren’t going to see much out of Hill and Hardman.

He cant run improvised routes like Pringle...or Hill or Kelce.

I wouldn't be that worried about a lack of production except that Pringle was getting Hardman's snaps down the stretch. That's more concerning to me.

He's not that good. That's all. We should have taken Metcalf.

Yep.

Remember when chris jones was public enemy #1?

This place is nuts.

Pringle seemingly makes a play when he's in there. He needs Hardmans spot.

Well I think he will pull it together but he needs to get it together but I still am hopeful he turns it around for himself.


i thought he needed to block on that end around or a play Hill had the ball but he was looking around like what do I do




I still love my son he will get on the right page. I thought with Sammy out he would step it up. He needs too.

They ALWAYS have to have an enemy on the team. Bunch of miserable ****s.

Hardman has made plays when his name is called. That’s all I care about.

Blocking liability.

It was nice to see Pringle get some action. He always makes clutch catches.

These people are stupid. Deep speed is keeping the safeties back and opening up running lanes.

Hardman is fine.
But I do like Pringle

:shake:

Tyreek didn’t do shit this week either, he ****ing sucks!

Right I get it. I think he'll be ok though. He's almost strictly a "home run hitter" at this point and we just weren't going for the home run throws at all tonight. It's disappointing that he isn't more than that at this point but it is what it is.

Making DAT like decisions all game on ST. Not acceptable.

Did the same. Also took over 49.5 receiving yards on a prop bet. Unfortunately he just seems lost

I'm not judging Hardman's WR skills but his ST decisions were bad this game.

Calm down

He was in the game running varied routes though. Hardman wasn't. He was getting less plays than Robinson and Pringle and it's obvious Reid and Mahomes trust him less

Run heavy gameplans aren’t going to favor Hardman, especially when we aren’t going PA and throwing deep often. Blocking isn’t his strength. It is what it is.

Pringle is much more of a Sammy replacement. Hardman is more of a Hill replacement. That said, I haven't been happy with Hardman this year, especially on special teams. Quit costing us yards dumbass.

They were running the ball. They were using bigger WR sets.

Yeah this is pretty much my point. I like Hardman a lot and still think he's very talented. Staylor can't help but overstate things and pick fights though

Exactly.

we'll be fine hun!

He probably did that because immediately after beating a 4-1 division leader on the road, you decided to start a bitch thread about Hardman.

When given the opportunity Pringle is a baller and clutch when needed. He also is smart and is a student of the game of which you saw that when Mahomes was in trouble rolling out. You hope Hardman is not getting "gun shy" on KOs and someone said it awhile back that Hardman may not be a student of the game or trouble taking in the playbook and it is catching up to him and Pringle is capitalizing.

Not a bitch thread but ok

Literally just concerned that Pringle was getting important snaps over last year's top pick

Because they were running the ball 46 times. Hardman isn't that kind of WR.

First off he’s just not gonna get that many targets here with the way things are constructed

With hill and kelce and now CEH when they’re running it we’ll just not a lot to go around

He’s not really progressed but he hasn’t really gotten the reps to progress at this point

Ok

ROFL

Pringle is playing because Watkins isn't. It's that simple.

They were running the ball and wanted blocking WR's in the game. Watkins was out so Pringle is the next guy up.

It has nothing to do with being a "student of the game". Absolutely hilarious.

Comparing him to tyreek is stupid.

Mecole has 13 receptions in 6 games, and has made multiple bad special teams plays over the last few weeks.

He has been widely ineffective, and Andy’s distrust in him when trying to close out the game speaks volumes.

Im not hoping the kid fails. I hope he gets his shit together but watching dk metcalf destroy defenses every week hurts knowing we took hardman instead

ROFL

Making a note to check with htis to see if it's ok to post a critical thread after the next win

Does it hurt knowing that Hardman’s return sparked momentum to come back from 24-0 in the playoffs leading to a Super Bowl win?

Maybe wait a few minutes next time?

I mean we just came out of the game thread and were subjected to all the idiocy there for 3 hours.

Gimme a number and I'll do that

Thats cool, i remember a returner that we had prior to him that probably could have done the same thing. [emoji849]

Yeah and we drafted Hardman bc we thought Hill was ****ed. Did you get knocked into a comma and just forget that?

Are we in agreement that dk has shown that he is a better player now with a higher ceiling, or are you just truing to change my argument?

DK Metcalf?

Who's trying to change the argument again?

ROFL

Go look at all my previous thread comments homeboy. Literally every one of them mentions him being taken over metcalf.

I wonder if he understands that yards run East-West don’t count.
That would explain his kick returns at least. Short of that excuse, his play has been below expectations for a while now.

The title of this thread is "What's up with Mecole Hardman".

I've seen your comments. They're all about DK Metcalf. Last I checked, this thread has nothing to do with DK Metcalf.

Stop trying to change the subject.

He can catch the ball

Fine, can you agree that hardman hasn’t progressed and looks like ripe trash this year then, or are you blind.

He's the 4th WR on the team and he still has 13 receptions and 2 TD's.

He's made some ST mistakes. He's still one of the best 4th WR's in the game.

Get over it.

i think Mecole has played well when given oppurtunites..maybe hes not vibing in practice. .

It's kind of concerning that he isn't, though. He was a 2nd rounder. Those guys really shouldn't come off the field in favor of UDFAs no matter the game plan.

I'm horny homeboys!1

Regardless of whether he can run block or not, it's concerning when the guys making key plays late in the game are Robinson and Pringle, and not him.

Is a 2nd round WR being one of the best 4th WRs in the game really something to brag about?

This.

The game plan was entirely different and the focus was not on Hill/hardman type plays. Give me a break with this shit.

He's sitting behind two of the better WR's in the game. Not sure what everybody expects. Look at Andy Reid's history with WR's.

Yeah he’s been AWFUL in the return game for most of the year.

And one of those two receivers has missed the last two games, and he still is hardly getting snaps. Demarcus Robinson and udfa pringle are getting more snaps (not that im mad about that, pringle has looked sharp this year)


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We ran the ball 46 times. Both DRob and Pringle are bigger, much better run-blockers than Hardman, who's still learning how to block. No mystery here.

Hardman doesn't backup Watkins, he backs up Tyreek.

The fact that you can't see the difference between Watkins and Hardman just with your eyes is mystifying.

When Watkins goes down, Robinson plays. Every WR on the team isn't interchangeable.

Hardman will be fine. The only thing holding him back right now is his inability to beat press coverage without running around the jam from the CB. Notice how freaking strong Sammy Brokedick and Tyreek are? They're jacked. Hardman isn't there yet. Once he gets a little stronger and starts going through the CB instead of around him he'll be a force. I had hoped it would be this season, but looks like it might take him longer.

That being said, he needs to stop running the ball out of the end zone on kickoffs unless we're desperate for a big play late in a game. They're not opening any lanes for him so why force it?

Fosho

It does kinda show though that they need to re sign Watkins or bring someone else in

So we drafted a WR in the 2nd who will basically always be a backup as long as Tyreek is on the team even if the WR2 spot is open?

Cool I guess.

Are you ever happy?

One, when they drafted him most people thought Hill was likely not going to play that year, or for a big part of it. Two, I’m guessing the role of Tyreek putting a special kind of pressure on a defense is an important part of our offense and we needed to ensure we could still do that if Tyreek wasn’t on the field.

I was happy we won the game but this is a thread about Hardman. I don't know how happy you could be with his development so far.

But just for you.... "Great game Hardman! You were sensational out there!"

Happy?

Not picking at you in particular, just saying:

I said when we drafted Hardman it could take a couple (possibly three) seasons before he accumulates enough experience to actually be a starter. These are just the growing pains he's going through because he came into the league with just a couple seasons in college as a WR. What he's doing is normal for a guy like him. He'll be fine. Patience.

I fully understand why we drafted him. But after it was clear Hill would still be on the team, you'd have to think Hardman would take a more traditional WR2 develompent role right? Because even now, he still can't replace Hill if Hill goes out despite everyone saying he's Hills replacement. Hill runs every single route you can think of and then more. Hardman doesn't.