Stephon Gilmore on the trade block
 

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Patriots?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Patriots</a> have talked about trading 2019 Defensive player of the year, CB Stephon Gilmore, per <a href="https://twitter.com/AlbertBreer?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@AlbertBreer</a><br><br>They were in contact and had conversations with teams about trading him in August - Could be a trade target again with Pats going through a losing season without Tom Brady <a href="https://t.co/I9SIYJexzP">pic.twitter.com/I9SIYJexzP</a></p>&mdash; Dov Kleiman (@NFL_DovKleiman) <a href="https://twitter.com/NFL_DovKleiman/status/1321099111836372995?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 27, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Belicheat is like --- **** this shit --- it's time to Lose for Lawrence.

We'll give you Nick Keizer

BOB had a 2025 first and second ready to send.

No, really, we will give you Nick Keizer. Nothing in return required.

There's no way they will catch up to the Jets. They're out of the Lawrence sweepstakes.

If he's planning on getting a QB, he needs to look in the mirror at where the problem lies. Cam has actually been decent, but Belichick yet again refused to draft new offensive playmakers. He usually tries to cut against the grain by zigging where the rest of the NFL zags, but this time that strategy obviously isn't working.

I mean....whats his salary look like?

Would imagine Seattle would be interested, but they need pass rushers more.

ROFLROFL

They were one of the worst offenses last year. I just thought their defense could keep them in the games this year. Hasn't really been the case. You are right though.

Agree there is no way Patriots are in Lawrence sweepstakes. This is an overall rebuilding move if it happens. Gilmore's contract goes through 2021. They've obviously decided next two years don't look good, so get some good draft compensation, and lose a few more games to improve overall position.

This is a deal I'd make in a heartbeat.

I figured his contract wouldn't allow it.

He's only on the books for 7M next year. I'd gladly give up our 1st rounder for Gilmore for the rest of this year and next. Easy decision.

We would be unstoppable with Gilmore, but I don't know that we need him as much as we did before. Fenton, Ward and Sneed look like they will be solid for years to come.

Not for a first. No thanks.

Why? The Chiefs are 5th in pass defense and other than in the Raiders game, the secondary has played well.

Since we all know that PFF is the be-all, end-all, I'd like to point out that they are not grading Gilmore well at all this year. Current 2020 grade is 61.0. (For comparison Fenton is at 70.6 and Ward is at 58.6.)

For our first? Yeah. It's going to be pick #32.

If I'm a shitty team, I probably don't do it because I'd use that pick on a real QB 1 thru 10.

I still wouldn't do it though, I Like our corners.

Because its adds depth this year but more importantly provides us with a #1 CB to replace Breeland next year.

I am no longer of a belief that PFF knows what they are talking about. They thought Steven Nelson was an elite corner. They graded Mahomes badly in some scenarios when it doesn't make sense.

They don't interpret the nuance in the game of football. For example, yesterday Nick Foles threw 2 ints. Did they matter? Not not at all. Did he play well? Absolutely not. But his 2 ints were a result of him trying to play uber aggressive to get his team back in the game at the very end of the 3rd qtr and 4th qtr. PFF would grade him poorly. Would you have preferred him to throw screens and throw it away like Derek Carr? Of course not. Similarly when a LB is in a bad position to stop the run and they "let up" a huge gain they don't know the LB's responsibilities. Were they spying the QB? Were they playing covg? etc

Trading a 1st for a year and a half rental?

When we have Sneed coming back soon?

When Spags has proven to be able to get cheap corners to play very well?

No ****ing thanks.

It's one data point. Another data point is the Patriots are ready to cut bait. Another data point is he's now on the wrong side of 30. Absolutely hell to the no on sending a first round pick for this guy.

No thanks

Our days of signing super expensive players is done for a couple years probably, guys. It’s the cost of keeping the dudes we have.

I'm all for making a move to bolster the defense, but CB surprisingly isn't one I'd make. DE or maybe even a DT, sure.

If I'm trading our first, it's for someone like Quinnen Williams.

You can't get that type of talent in the late thirties so it makes sense.

If I were Pittsburgh I would but NE doesn't exactly seem like they'd trade to Pittsburgh...

Maybe Gilmore can get himself cut from the team so we can sign him for the minimum

One of those players that I don't see a fit for on our team but I 100% don't want him bolstering a team that we might play in the playoffs.

Hope he goes to the NFC if traded.

Something to write about. Gilmore will be a Pat after the trade deadline.

Once Snead comes back well be 4 deep at that position. We also have no cap. Get real man..

Wouldn't be opposed to sniffing around the TE market. Some decent guys on the block I'd guess.

Zero chance NE trades a reigning DPOY to the Super Bowl Champion Kansas City Chiefs.

Also, it's gotta be trap.

Lmao! A dpoy vs a high potential draft pick.. easy choice

He's 30 years old. You don't give up picks for guys over 30.

Trading a high draft pick just to add depth to a position of strength is not worth it.

Also Gilmore is a 30 year old CB whose play is already showing signs of decline this season and you want the Chiefs to absorb his $7 million base salary against their already tight salary cap situation in 2021?

No thanks.

ESPECIALLY at corner.

Life comes at you fast. Remember Josh Norman? Ty Law? Revis? One day they just....are below avg. And it's quick.

The game has passed him by

Cleveland might trade one. I believe that they kept 5. I'm not sure if they still have all 5, but if they do, they should be willing to trade one.

Oh yeah. I would for certain. Go all in.

He will be a Buc. Watch it happen.

I just don’t see this team doing anything as far as trades go right now.

Only $6m in cap space and they already have moves to make next offseason in order to get under the 2021 cap, so every dollar counts.

This roster is Super Bowl ready. If a scenario comes up where you can sign someone like they did Suggs or Bell, they will. But I don’t see any trades coming.

****ing reeruned

The Bucs are becoming the NFL version of The Expendables.

Wrong. Is Gilmore better than any DB we have? Yes so **** off.

He’s 30, already has a huge cap number, and isn’t even playing like he did in previous years.

This team is not in any position to be taking on more hefty cap hits, especially for players past their prime.

Stupid take is stupid.

Gilmore is 30, declining, and will cost a high draft pick. Then we'd have to fit him under our cap, which won't be easy.

It's a terrible idea.

We have a top 5 pass defense but yet let’s trade for Gilmore who will take up 7 mil in cap when the cap space next year is supposed to decrease. Wanna stunt Sneed and Fentons growth THATS how you do it

The current, 30 year old version of Gilmore? His supposed upgrade impact would be minimal at best and not worth giving up a high draft pick and absorbing his $7 million base salary for 2021.

We don’t need a corner. We are very strong in that group and Sneed seemed to be a blue chip quality guy before getting hurt.

TE
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We’re set elsewhere.

LB?

Probably not gonna find any quality at this time of year, just more backups.

They've used first round picks on N'Keal Harry and Sony Michel, they just both suck.

It's been Belichick's biggest weakness through his entire career, he's never been any good at drafting offensive skill positions. The only guy he really hit on is Gronkowski.

This. The Faid and the Titans both have trash secondaries. In the case of Vegas they are just on the borderline of getting the WC spot. Gruden wouldn't send a pick over to the cheatriots for debatably the best DB in league? Tennessee has Indy right on their heels and obv they have connections with NEP don't see any reason why they wouldn't pull the trigger either.

Hopefully this is just talk and come Nov 4th he's still playing in the Boston area.

Not only NO, But NO FUGGING WAY!

As it has been stated already, cap space, age, already have good young corners that is only going to get better and we need DL, another quality LB & TE.

GILMORE IS NOT A GOOD FIT FOR THE LONG RUN!

Eli Apple worth a look? Just released

For sure.

Teams release great players mid season on a weekly basis.

He’s trash! Move along!

Terribad.

Bad Apple.

no.

too old, too expensive, at an area in which we already have good young talent.

I've made this argument a lot, but the difference between a GREAT corner and a GOOD corner isn't really worth the money. Not with the current rules.

Secondary is not an area of weakness for us.

We don’t need great players, just cheap stopgaps like TSizzle from last year.

He sucks and we have 4 good corners.

Belicheat knows he doesn't have a chance this year, but I guarantee he thinks they will be in the mix next year. No way in hell they trade him to an AFC powerhouse like us.

I'll send a 4th and a bag of Cheetos, or Nick Keizer, whichever Bill prefers.

I might for Quinton Nelson, honestly.

Of course, but a guy like that will never be available.

It was a play on the name (and the desire to improve IOL.)

And the only reason he took Gronk is because he was coming out of college with back issues so his stock dropped, making him a value worth taking at that point in the draft. Even Brady was an easy choice in the 6th.

Belichick has been good at taking tweeners or guys out of position or underutilized guys, and making them shine. Tedy Bruschi, Mike Vrabel, Wes Walker, Julian Edelman, etc.,. But as a drafter he sucks in the high rounds.

Gilmore house is for sale he gone

I saw Mr. Gilmore this morning at Cargo Largo purchasing some KC Chiefs cleats.

NE beginning the rebuild. Probably a McCourty will be traded soon.

I would trade a 1st and 2nd round pick for him. Dude is the real deal

McCourty brothers are both great - watched them at Rutgers games during the Schiano era but they are a little long in the tooth these days. Kenny Britt, Mohammed Sanu, Ray Rice all no longer around. Just the McCourty's

18 players from the 2007 Rutgers team played in the NFL for at least a snap.

Good luck with that.

It's pretty crazy how badly our secondary sucked in 2018 and how much better it got in 2019 and now 2020. We went from Nelson, Scandrick, Fuller, Murray, Parker, Sorensen and occasionally hobo Berry to Ward, Breeland, Mathieu, Thornhill, Fenton, Sneed, Sorensen and others. What a ****ing great job at upgrading the secondary.

He’s not the “real deal” this year.

Mike Vrabel was drafted by the Steelers and spent four years in Pittsburgh

Didn't he try to give our savior the 'Rona? Screw that guy!!

Yes, and he was underutilized there. Hell, Belichick made him a touchdown catching threat, LOL.

:shake::shake::shake::shake::shake:

Good Lord, no.

I saw Gilmore at Bury The Hatchet in Overland Park. They taped a picture of Belichick and he was chucking hatchets at it. He said he was looking at mobile homes in Belton.