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Dante84 11-23-2020 11:03 AM

Let's talk about the Buccaneers
 
Notable Offensive Players: Brady, Godwin, Rojo, Gronk, Evans, Wirfs, Brown, Fournette

Notable Defensive Players: Suh, JPP, Barrett, Winfield, Davis, Dean

+ Tom is a statue, so we need to generate pressure through the middle otherwise he has weapons and can hit them in the mid-ranges, similar to Oakland last night. He's infinitely smarter than Carr, but probably less talented than the version of Carr we saw last night - or at least on par.

+ TB's receiving talent is right up there with the best in the league. For some reason Evans/Brady have been slightly off, and we'll have to hope that continues. Gronk is a shell of himself, but still a large target that might be difficult for, say, HB, to defend if the ball is placed in the right location.

+ TB's secondary is young, talented and smart, but prone to youthful mistakes. We should be able to confuse them as the game goes on.

+ TB's run game can be nasty, and we need to shut them down early. Rojo is no joke.

BWillie 11-23-2020 11:11 AM

I want to taste the tears of Tom Brady's sadness.

I want Chris Jones to devour him.

Frank Clark says there is blood in the water.

Hog's Gone Fishin 11-23-2020 11:16 AM

Offense

KC PPG 32.1

TB PPG 29.6

Defense

KC PPG 21.4

TB PPG 22.6

Deberg_1990 11-23-2020 11:17 AM

How’s Antonio Brown looking?

MahomesMagic 11-23-2020 11:18 AM

The good news for us is that Todd Bowles does some incredibly stupid stuff. I hope he does those blitzes that start way back from the LOS because Mahomes would light that up.

MahomesMagic 11-23-2020 11:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 15346946)
How’s Antonio Brown looking?

Very good but wasn't on the same page as Brady the last I saw.

Dante84 11-23-2020 11:24 AM

This could be a huge statement game for our defense if Jones and Wharton get nasty up the middle.

I also expect some exotic blitzes from Spags, although they'll need to get home quickly because Brady gets rid of the ball so fast.

carcosa 11-23-2020 11:28 AM

WE WILL ****ING MURDER TOM BRADY TO DEATH AND HE WILL DIE AND BE DEAD LIKE THE OLD DEAD BITCH HE IS!!!!!

penguinz 11-23-2020 11:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MahomesMagic (Post 15346956)
Very good but wasn't on the same page as Brady the last I saw.

If he isn't on the same page then he doesn't look good. :rolleyes:

MahomesMagic 11-23-2020 11:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by penguinz (Post 15347002)
If he isn't on the same page then he doesn't look good. :rolleyes:

He was often getting open down the field but Brady was just out of sync in hitting him.

So it's more on Brady getting his timing down with his new WR and not on AB from what I saw.

CasselGotPeedOn 11-23-2020 11:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 15346925)
I want to taste the tears of Tom Brady's sadness.

I want Chris Jones to devour him.

Frank Clark says there is blood in the water.

Is he on his period? Because he's been playing like a bitch lately.

FloridaMan88 11-23-2020 11:38 AM

I am expecting a big bounce back performance from the defense on Sunday.

They are going to hear all week about their struggles, how they are the supposed weak link in the Chiefs’ quest to repeat and they will show up big on Sunday.

ChiefBlueCFC 11-23-2020 11:46 AM

Gonna need the defense to pull their head out. Tampa has some weapons on offense and if they can't get pressure on Brady, we're gonna need another great one from Mahomes.

Don't need the defense to play great, just do their job and get some stops.

OrtonsPiercedTaint 11-23-2020 11:47 AM

It's time for them to spread the passing around. The old man needs to be paced

BWillie 11-23-2020 12:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 15346946)
How’s Antonio Brown looking?

Hasn't raped anybody or assaulted anyone for a couple of weeks. So A+ so far.

BWillie 11-23-2020 12:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CasselGotPeedOn (Post 15347029)
Is he on his period? Because he's been playing like a bitch lately.

He's just been drinking alot of cranberry juice. It's a natural diuretic. He'll be fine soon.

htismaqe 11-23-2020 12:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 15347160)
Hasn't raped anybody or assaulted anyone for a couple of weeks. So A+ so far.

ROFL

ToxSocks 11-23-2020 12:26 PM

They're another offense that runs through the run game. They look their best when they can run the ball. They don't like that great when they get away from the run.

And their defense has never seen Mahomes, Hill and Kelce before.

ToxSocks 11-23-2020 12:28 PM

The Chiefs route to domination is the same as it always is:

Score fast, score early, put them in a hole to force them out of the run game and then pin your ears back. Offense has to keep scoring. Chiefs have to play defense with their offense otherwise we're in for another nail biter.

Shoes 11-23-2020 12:30 PM

Love the fact that the Chiefs defense gets a crack to prove themselves against a high powered offense. Also love the Chiefs getting back to back games against above average opponents.

Time to start tuning the engine for playoff mode.

BossChief 11-23-2020 12:31 PM

I’d feel a lot better about this game if Schwartz was healthy and Fisher didn’t twist the knee.

We’re going to need to score a lot and their DL can get pressure without blitzing.

smithandrew051 11-23-2020 12:32 PM

Excited for this one. We’ll learn a lot about both teams.

If we win this, then anything worse than 14-2 will be EXTREMELY disappointing. I don’t care what the Steelers record is, I have to believe that 14-2 gets the 1 seed (as long as we don’t lose to another AFC opponent).

Hammock Parties 11-23-2020 12:32 PM

Tom Bratty can't move for shit. I have a feeling Jones will single-handedly turn this game in our favor on multiple possessions.

Run D looked good last night, too.

It's all on Tom.

alpha_omega 11-23-2020 12:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 15346925)
I want to taste the tears of Tom Brady's sadness.

I want Chris Jones to devour him.

Frank Clark says there is blood in the water.

https://cdn.quotesgram.com/img/34/90...ps63d4cea7.jpg

carcosa 11-23-2020 12:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 15347192)
I’d feel a lot better about this game if Schwartz was healthy and Fisher didn’t twist the knee.

We’re going to need to score a lot and their DL can get pressure without blitzing.

Gosh, do you think we can????

smithandrew051 11-23-2020 12:37 PM

Here’s an interesting stat. The Buccaneers allow opposing QBs to complete 68% of their passes. That’s tied with the Giants and Texans for 6th worst in the league.

Chris Meck 11-23-2020 12:37 PM

We could **** around and lose this game really easily.

IF we play the way we did against The Raiders we just might.

Jones and Clark are going to have to show up.

Also-it's not the end of the world if we lose.

The Steelers are actually entering a stretch where they play play-off contenders for 4 of the next 6 games. Ravens, Bills, Colts, Browns. So, we'll see who they really are.

pugsnotdrugs19 11-23-2020 12:39 PM

Their defense is much better than the Raiders so, yeah, the defense needs to step up for us big time.

I’m not sure our D can play any worse than last night, though.

carcosa 11-23-2020 12:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smithandrew051 (Post 15347208)
Here’s an interesting stat. The Buccaneers allow opposing QBs to complete 68% of their passes. That’s tied with the Giants and Texans for 6th worst in the league.

MAHOMES 30/30 600 YARDS 10 TOUCHDOWNS

comochiefsfan 11-23-2020 12:41 PM

If anyone sees Chris Jones or Frank Clark let somebody with the Chiefs know.

Because they've been missing for several weeks now.

Hammock Parties 11-23-2020 12:42 PM

In a perfect world, Mahomes evens the score against Tom Sunday and then takes him out in the Super Bowl, restoring the balance lost from 2018.

BossChief 11-23-2020 12:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by carcosa (Post 15347207)
Gosh, do you think we can????

Of course we can, but their defense is very talented and specifically in their pass rush.

I think this one is going to be a lot like the Rams game last year.

Gary Cooper 11-23-2020 01:03 PM

Since I became a Chiefs fan in 1993-1994, we have not beaten the Buccaneers. Most memorable was that blown 18 point lead at home in 2008 and Alex Smith's rare pick in the red zone that changed the game in 2016.

If we can get Watkins and Hardman back, this offense become a lot more explosive. No more Robinson mistakes to stall drives. Conversely, the defense will give up lots of yards and points. Shutting down Tampa's offense with this group is likely asking for much. All depends on whether they can make key stops and force a turnover or two. Likely another high scoring game that comes down to who gets the ball last.

Hammock Parties 11-23-2020 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by JudasRising20 (Post 15347268)
Since I became a Chiefs fan in 1993-1994, we have not beaten the Buccaneers.

Chiefs beat the Bucs in the first game of 93.

Gary Cooper 11-23-2020 01:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 15347315)
Chiefs beat the Bucs in the first game of 93.

My first game was the playoff game against the Steelers later that year. I guess it was technically January 1994.

big nasty kcnut 11-23-2020 01:36 PM

Tom brady will get destroyed. Their offensive line not that good.

Why Not? 11-23-2020 01:36 PM

I have no doubt our offense scores into the 30’s. I have some doubt it’ll be enough to win.

Dante84 11-23-2020 01:52 PM

Something no one has mentioned yet; Spags is Brady's kryptonite.

So we've got that going for us, which is nice.

St. Patty's Fire 11-23-2020 01:54 PM

I'm curious to see if Bowles dials back on all the blitzes he calls or if he just sticks to what he's been doing

If he blitzes a lot the Chiefs are going to score a shit ton

Direckshun 11-23-2020 01:59 PM

Tom Brady, at his 2020 peak, won’t give us what Derek Carr just did.

That’s crazy to say out loud, but Carr made every play and dropped dimes all game.

I suspect we’ll get the exact same treatment from Brady.

I’d be shocked if the Bucs don’t drop 30 on us, though. The question is can the offense keep pace against a pretty stingy Bucs defense.

And, well, never bet against Mahomes.

RunKC 11-23-2020 01:59 PM

Here’s some interesting facts about the Bucs that correlate with us.

Veach was going to sign a FA that the Bucs ended up signing. He was the fall back if Sammy didn’t work out. That was OL Ryan Jensen.

Ali Marpet was a guy we were linked to a lot. He was definitely a prototypical Andy Reid OL. Bucs ended up drafting him before we could get a chance in the 2nd rd. Think many thought he’d go in the 3rd.

scho63 11-23-2020 03:02 PM

Antonio Brown looked like a beast yesterday

Mecca 11-23-2020 03:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scho63 (Post 15347592)
Antonio Brown looked like a beast yesterday

On the couch?

ThaVirus 11-23-2020 04:13 PM

The Bucs have incredible weapons, but they're not the nightmare matchup that the Raiders O is for us because their weapons aren't nearly as speedy. Evans is a strider and will cause some issues in the end zone, as will Gronk, but neither Brown or Godwin are very fast.

Their run game is also kinda meh. They'll stick with it regardless but RoJo and Fourney don't scare me. If we can pressure Brady, we should be able to keep them from grinding out long TD drives.

Their defense could cause some problems. They can get pressure with the front 4 and their inside LBs are the best, and fastest, in the league. I highly doubt we'll see any of our backs beating Lavonte David to the edge. Their secondary is very young, though, so if Mahomes has some time we should be able to get a fair amount of chunk plays.

I honestly have no clue how this one will play out. If both team's A games show up, I believe we will win, but our defense lately has me a bit concerned. I don't expect that we will be as efficient against this capable defense as we were against Vegas' trash heap so if the guys play that uninspired this coming Sunday, we could be in for another nail biter.

ThaVirus 11-23-2020 04:16 PM

The DBs need to be on point, though. Brady's gotten very good at throwing up the arm punts that linger in the air for 4 seconds. I've seen far too many DBs shit themselves and commit a huge 50+ yard DPI.

We can't allow any of that easy shit, cause you know the refs will be looking to flag us any chance they get.

Dante84 11-23-2020 04:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scho63 (Post 15347592)
Antonio Brown looked like a beast yesterday

But they play tonight...?

PAChiefsGuy 11-23-2020 05:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scho63 (Post 15347592)
Antonio Brown looked like a beast yesterday

Somebody started drinking early today

Deberg_1990 11-23-2020 08:32 PM

I’m going to guess we lose this game.

Just a gut feeling.

Chiefs 35

Bucs 40

comochiefsfan 11-23-2020 08:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 15348340)
I’m going to guess we lose this game.

Just a gut feeling.

Chiefs 35

Bucs 40

I'm going to guess your mother dropped you as a baby.

Just a gut feeling.

Megatron96 11-23-2020 08:56 PM

This is the second game I've watched TB and find myself not terribly impressed on either side of the ball. This can't be the class of the NFC I'm watching here.

Chiefs Pantalones 11-23-2020 08:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 15348408)
This is the second game I've watched TB and find myself not terribly impressed on either side of the ball. This can't be the class of the NFC I'm watching here.

They’re not very good. If Daniel Jones didn’t have hooves for hands and was accurate the Giants would’ve beaten them by two scores

Pasta Little Brioni 11-23-2020 08:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 15348340)
I’m going to guess we lose this game.

Just a gut feeling.

Chiefs 35

Bucs 40

Piss off, troll

htismaqe 11-23-2020 08:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 15348340)
I’m going to guess we lose this game.

Just a gut feeling.

Chiefs 35

Bucs 40

You said the same thing about the Raiders.

ROFL

Chris Meck 11-23-2020 09:05 PM

Well, they can't run with us, no ****in' way.

Can their d-line bully our patchwork o-line?

Maybe.

Megatron96 11-23-2020 09:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiefs Pantalones (Post 15348413)
They’re not very good. If Daniel Jones didn’t have hooves for hands and was accurate the Giants would’ve beaten them by two scores

Yeah, I saw that game as well. Or part of it anyway.

I'm not saying they're bad, but they aren't shutting down Goff and company either, and the Rams aren't a terribly explosive offense. And their defense is good, sure, but I haven't watched them and thought, "wow, that's a great defense." Not once.

Stryker 11-23-2020 09:10 PM

Bucs have the #4 ranked defense. They are currently tied with LA that just picked off Brady so that is awesome. I think we win and our next scary game is @ the Saints. If we win those games, AFC Championship Game here we come!
Not too worried about Miami or Chargers after the previous 2 games.

#runitback

Chris Meck 11-23-2020 09:15 PM

Suh on Reiter makes me nervous.

Their D-line is really the only concern.

They look slow as **** teamwide.

Chief Roundup 11-23-2020 09:20 PM

The word for this game is passrush. We have to find a way to generate one and we have to slow theirs down.

Deberg_1990 11-23-2020 09:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 15348418)
You said the same thing about the Raiders.

ROFL

Well. I was almost right!

Megatron96 11-23-2020 09:23 PM

The Bucs secondary is full of bad eyes.

Stryker 11-23-2020 09:28 PM

Brady SACKED! Such a BEAUTIFUL sight! Down he goes!

BigRedChief 11-23-2020 09:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stryker (Post 15348451)
Bucs have the #4 ranked defense. They are currently tied with LA that just picked off Brady so that is awesome. I think we win and our next scary game is @ the Saints. If we win those games, AFC Championship Game here we come!
Not too worried about Miami or Chargers after the previous 2 games.

#runitback

If that #4 ranked defense blitzes us like they have the Rams, Mahomes will have a career day.

Megatron96 11-23-2020 09:47 PM

Okay, that was a great play to get the TFL. They have some fast people up front.

Stryker 11-23-2020 09:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 15348532)
If that #4 ranked defense blitzes us like they have the Rams, Mahomes will have a career day.

Agreed! :clap:

Why Not? 11-23-2020 09:55 PM

Goff is so shitty

Why Not? 11-23-2020 09:56 PM

Both these teams suck

Deberg_1990 11-23-2020 10:22 PM

Bucs will be angry and desperate. Not good for us.

staylor26 11-23-2020 10:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 15348838)
Bucs will be angry and desperate. Not good for us.

Yea sooo scared.

They lost to the Saints twice already, essentially losing the division, and they were playing another NFC playoff team. Why were they not already pissed/desperate?

comochiefsfan 11-23-2020 10:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 15348838)
Bucs will be angry and desperate. Not good for us.

We should've intentionally lost this week. Then we would be equally as angry and desperate and would stand a better chance.

Chris Meck 11-23-2020 10:29 PM

They're shitty.

Titty Meat 11-23-2020 10:31 PM

No idea why Arenas tries to make Brady push the ball downfield. He cant do it anymore.

RunKC 11-23-2020 10:31 PM

Can’t believe people have Brady as a top 10 QB right now. He’s garbage this year and well on his way to having more picks than any year in his career.

I would easily take Carr and Goff over this dude. It’s debatable that he’s better than average right now.

-King- 11-23-2020 10:31 PM

Tom brady is playing shitty, Shipley might be out and their LT is shitty. If there was a game for Frank Clark and Chris Jones to get their shit together for the final stretch, this is it.

Mecca 11-23-2020 10:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Titty Meat (Post 15348863)
No idea why Arenas tries to make Brady push the ball downfield. He cant do it anymore.

Cause thats his offense and he won't change it.

KC_Connection 11-23-2020 10:32 PM

If they get any pressure on Brady whatsoever, they'll win in a blowout.

KC_Connection 11-23-2020 10:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 15348864)
Can’t believe people have Brady as a top 10 QB right now. He’s garbage this year and well on his way to having more picks than any year in his career.

I would easily take Carr and Goff over this dude. It’s debatable that he’s better than average right now.

Carr is easily a top 10 QB this year (on the low end). Goff and Brady are below average.

Buehler445 11-23-2020 10:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 15348869)
Carr is easily a top 10 QB this year (on the low end). Goff and Brady are below average.

Goff looked a fair shake better than Brady.

Hoover 11-23-2020 10:37 PM

Feels like they really force the ball to Brown

Hammock Parties 11-23-2020 10:38 PM

Brady is a turd. My video may not even be worth it. LMAO

Frazod 11-23-2020 10:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 15348876)
Goff looked a fair shake better than Brady.

Brady is basically Lamar Jackson minus the running ability.


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