Might as well talk about the bills
 

They're pretty good

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Thanks Bearcat!

The Bills are the team nobody wants to face-LOL

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Mostly because of Dq I no longer am interested in a competitive game with BUF. I hope that the Bills team that played BAL so poorly is the one we get on Sunday, so we just simply annihilate them for three quarters. It would be great if Andy had a reason to punish them, but the HC is a friend of his, I guess that's out of the question.

Thank you for doing this.

It was getting old sifting through the other thread to find actual intelligent discourse regarding football on the field.

Appreciate it!

Quality flush. :thumb:

Bad matchup for the Bills. They can't run at all. We can gash them with the run and once again, Kelce will eat.

I hope we destroy them and crush another fanbase on our way to another trophy.

Bills are a good team. You don't make the AFCCG without being good. KC should win the game unless they turn it over too many times. In some ways they are the polar opposite of Baltimore. If they commit to running and do it well it should be a close game.

Take away Diggs and what can Josh Allen do, honestly?

Make him win by throwing it to someone else.

If you look deeper you'd see this isn't actually the case. Pittsburgh can't run...they average 3.6 YPC. Bills RBs average 4.5 YPC which is slightly above average. Also had 2 games with close to 200 yards rushing against the Chargers and Patriots.

I think the more accurate statement would be the Bills are disinterested in running.

Cole Beasley and Gabriel Davis are solid receivers but they’re not game breakers like Diggs.

Beasley you especially need to watch closely on 3rd down.

How much of that is because of the threat of the pass? Lighter boxes mean fewer defenders to stop the run at the LOS.

this in a nutshell.

BAL doesn't really have a passing attack, but can run the ball and they have a good defense, that can get after the QB.

BUF has a top-10 passing attack (sometimes when the weather is good/harness-less/Mars is in the 11th House), but no run game really, and their defense is good vs. the pass, but not against the run, and they have trouble getting to the passer.

If you could take these two teams and meld them together, you'd get a really good football team. Josh Allen at QB, Lamar at HB, Diggs/Beasley/Brown at WR, Andrews at TE and so on . . .

Sweet!

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Fair. But same ultimate result. And even if the Bills do run, Singletary and Yeldon ain't exactly Chubb and Hunt. I just don't think the Bills have the personnel to take advantage of where we are weak. Diggs is going to have to go nuclear (possible, he's legit great) for the offense to be able to move with much ease.

I think KC needs to put Breeland (if he plays) and shadow safety help to contain Diggs while putting Sneed on Beasley.

That's a misuse of Sneed, IMO. Beasley is not 100%. Word is, he's playing through a torn meniscus. Ward or Fenton (if he's back) can handle Beasley. Sneed has the athleticism and short area burst to hang with Diggs. He'll still need safety help but I'd rather go best with best. Let Breeland handle Brown and Badger/Thornhill/DD can worry about the rest. Bills do not have a TE that needs to be an area of concern.

Sounds good in theory but don't you think Baltimore, Indy and pretty much every other team tried this too? There is a reason he had 127 catches and over 1500 yards and led the NFL in both receptions and yards. It would be like saying teams should take away Kelce. They try. It doesn't work.

There are scheme adjustments they can make which make it nearly impossible for a team to truly take him out...namely they run a lot of deep overs with him that means the CB is in a trail position underneath him and the safety is having to try and run from the other side of the field to catch him and Allen's ball placement on those throws is usually perfect out in front of him.

Additionally when Allen escapes the pocket(like Mahomes does a lot) zone coverages tend to break down and the Bills WR are very good at finding the holes in the zones, many times sitting down or even drifting slightly inside where Allen uses his arm to make throws that would be major no-no's for other QB's(like Mahomes does).

These years are about skating demons, the Bills are yet another one that needs torn down.

I think we match up well with the Bills. Obviously we need our defense to play well but they have been playing well. Chubb got outrun by Darrel Williams. They made Mayfield look completely ordinary. There was no rust there to speak of. Andy really had them pegged earlier this year when we ran the ball down their throats to a comfortable win.

Obviously anything can happen, but I feel pretty confident.

Much like we shouldn't with Mahomes, don't discount Allen's legs. He was our leading rusher against Indy with 54 yards and he has had a couple of 100 yard rushing games earlier in his career.

Do Chiefs play man on zone mostly? Allen's big runs usually come when teams play man and turn their back on him...he is typically faster and more athletic than most MLB's and simply runs away from them in the open field and the CB and/or safeties end up having to bring him down, although he has gotten much better with going out of bounds or sliding this year. He would much rather extend plays with his legs and make throws downfield, especially if he escapes to his right...he has made countless 20-30 yard laser throws on the sidelines this year after escaping the pocket to his right. He is pretty good to his left also(that throw against the Patriots running to his left, squaring his hips and stepping back before throwing a laser to Diggs off his backfoot in the endzone for a TD with a defender in his face would have made Mahomes proud), but prefers to go to his right.

That’s fair, but again, Diggs had 6 catches for 46 yards in the first game against the Chiefs. And that was when we were missing Sneed.

And, yes, I know, weather and harness for Josh, but pretty sure weather will end up being a factor this Sunday as well. Hopefully Josh doesn’t have to put on a harness too. Then you’d REALLY be in trouble.

This is another step on our path to being the NFL's bad guys, like the Patriots for so many years, ruining every feel-good story of the year

Beasley looked like he could hardly get out of his breaks Saturday. I don’t think he’s 100% or close to it from what I could tell. Maybe he will be this week, but if not you’ve just got to try to contain Diggs as much as you can. Hold him to 50-80 yards and you’re sitting pretty. He’s Alllen’s 1st, 2nd and 4th read

The Ravens proved something we thought all along. Showing Allen things he doesn't expect messes with him. They changed up their D, he was unprepared for it.

I haven't seen anything from the Bills that gives me concerns on Sunday. Josh Allen obviously is a better QB than Baker Mayfield, Lamar Jackson or Phyllis Rivers. He can burn you with both his arm & legs. I still think he plays on a sugar high a lot of the time & I fully expect that to happen on Sunday playing on the road for the Super Bowl. This is the biggest game of his life & I'm sure his nerves will be on edge.

If Mahomes & CEH plays, I expect a game much like the earlier game except I expect the Bills to play the run better which will open up the passing game. The Bills are in a no win position in trying to defend the Chiefs. They can't fully concentrate on either the run or pass. The Bills have no running game except when Allen takes off. Cover Diggs & they have nothing. Spags will gameplan Allen & hold them to less than 20pts & we all know the Bills aren't holding the Chiefs to less than 20pts.

Bring on the Packers!

Yep, it needed to happen. :thumb:

I want Playoff Sammy available for this game. I really hope that calf is healed up and ready to go.

Thing is, KC has already played vs. Diggs twice in the past 18 months or so. We know him pretty well now. And both times Spags managed to keep a lid on him for the most part. Diggs will get some catches and probably even a TD, but that will probably be about it. BUF doesn't have a real TE threat, so our LBs can mostly focus on containing the Bills' RBs, and then it's just dealing with Brown, Beasley and Dawson?

Don't get me wrong, KC will have to play some disciplined defense to pull it off, because they had to the other two times they faced Diggs, but they've already proven they can at least handle the job.

We need to just enjoy this time where there are no teams in the AFC with balance in both phases on defense and on offense to go toe to toe with us, it won't always be that way.

I didn't realize they shut him down that well in the first game. It's obvious that Spags knows how to stop him & now with Sneed.... PBJ

Thank you.

That would be an added bonus but I'm not expecting to see him until the Super Bowl.

I expect most everyone to go this week.

Don’t think Gay will be quite ready and obviously Mitch is out, but everyone else should be good to go hopefully.

Not sure about Breeland (also in concussion protocol) and who knows with Mr. Glass (aka Sammy).

He isn't, although he said he felt better last week during the week than he did against Indy where he made several key 3rd down conversions and was hobbling walking back to the huddle. He was a non-factor against Baltimore and we really could have used him as he is a big key to us converting 3rd downs so well.

Hoping he can make some plays this week and be a more active part of the gameplan.

Allen had him open several times for what would have been some chunk plays and missed by a few inches on the throws...Chiefs did a good job overall but Allen had one of his worst days of the year throwing the ball, missing throws he hasn't missed all year.

That's asking for a lot with Watkins.

Except for Saturday, right?

Don't discount the Bills special teams, they are some of the best in the NFL, in all aspects.

We drew a ref crew that allows a lot of contact in the secondary.

That's going to be huge in a game that's going to have shitty weather.

Good. This is the playoffs. Let them play

I do like your punter.

Agree 1000000%

They should call it like this in the regular season, too.

Weather doesn't look that bad...temps around 40, light winds and 40% chance of showers. Should not have much of an effect other than potential for some ball security issues.

We dodged a bullet getting Vinovich who worked our SB, Blakeman has the other game...

OH MY GOD THAT WAS A CLOSE CALL.

Blakeman can get ****ed by the Chunnel drill.

Lots of Bills fans are obsessing over Mahomes right now. Not just about is he playing or not, but many seem to be setting it up that he can only play if the Chiefs cheat the system. They are really setting themselves up for the idea that they will have gotten screwed by the league when they lose.

They are preconditioned to expect failure.

We used to do that all the time.

I don't miss the "making excuses" phase of our Fandom.

They lost 4 straight SBs then got stuck with the Pats dynasty, it's easy to see why they have a victim complex.

Their own QB got a concussion last year then played the next week.

No way the league risks the face of the league developing CTE. They're gonna be as careful with him as they would be with any other player, if not moreso.

Said he usually refs the AFC games but this year he isn't. Hmm could it be that Brady is playing nfc this year so he needs to fix that one.

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I don’t know why even a Bills fan would want Mahomes to miss.

If we beat them without Josh Allen, I’d feel like we took a major shortcut. And it wouldn’t feel nearly as good.

They have like 3 concussion threads over there LMAO

For the conditions he played in I think Allen had a pretty good game overall. Buffalo is one of the windiest cities in the country, so when we say the wind was bad, it's pretty bad. More so than that, the winds swirl in the stadium due to how its designed so the direction of the wind can change from minute to minute.

If you want to bet on him having another game like that I think you might be disappointed. I expect him to play one of his best games of the year. Allen actually is a slightly better road QB than home QB.

Well, can you blame them?

They know basically their only chance to win is if Mahomes sits and Henne plays.

They want their pass to the Super Bowl, they don’t care how they get it.


Unfortunately for them, there have already been several times this year a player has been placed in concussion protocol one week and played the very next. The precedent has been set and done several times.

Sorry, Buffalo. You’re getting the Super Bowl MVP. You’re gonna have to really earn it.

That is exactly my thought. Finding something they can say shouldn’t be occurring to blame the loss on.

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I don’t blame them for not wanting Mahomes to play. I can see that either way for what you would want. But it’s the whole narrative being created that Mahomes playing would be a cheating conspiracy that is so odd and shows that victim complex others mentioned.

LMAO

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I don't think that at all. I think we have a legit shot at winning this game.
I said in the other thread probably 60-40 favoring the Chiefs, but if we win it won't be some flukiness, we will have earned it.

538's model favors the Chiefs 52-48% and says the actual line should be Chiefs -0.5 points.

ESPN's FPI says with Mahomes the Chiefs win 61% of the time, which is pretty close to what I said. It's one game, anything can happen. Over a 7 game series I wouldn't like our chances. In a single game, I feel a little better.

Chiefs are the reigning champs but they are not infallible.

Bummer for you all that he’ll be playing maybe his whole career in Buffalo, when apparently weather is such an issue for him. First the Kansas City game and now last week. You’d think Buffalo might have considered drafting a QB that was a little less affected by weather conditions.

I guess we can’t all have a Mahomes who balls out in blizzard like conditions.

Hopefully for you all there will be good weather come Sunday. Fingers crossed.

Heading into the playoffs, I thought the Chiefs' biggest threats to repeat were in the NFC (and I think that's still true), but did buy into some of the Bills' hype because teams need to be able to outscore Mahomes... and that of course rules out the Lamar Jackson as well as the Browns' lack of defense, and probably the Titans, etc.

They haven't done anything to change my mind, and if anything I'm probably a bit over confident at this point. I expected them to come down to earth a bit, as the playoffs are just at a different level, but I am wondering about the nerves and potentially what kinds of chances will be taken in order to score as much as possible (a 4th a 3 at midfield, a fake punt, going for two in a situation that makes the Colts wonder WTF they're doing, etc.).

I've thought all of these teams are still a year or two of playoff experience away and perhaps the Bills are the closest to where the Chiefs were in 2018.

You have to be able to outscore the Chiefs, and maybe they can.... while pressuring Mahomes without a blitz.

Not trying to be a douchebag or anything but I think the only team that can possibly beat us is GB.

If you guys had another offensive weapon or had a more balanced approach on offense then maybe. I just feel like Allen and Diggs simply won't be enough.

Just for the record, 538 is currently assuming Henne is our QB. It oddly doesn't shift things a TON, but it does shift it to about your 60/40.

What do you attribute that to? The weather, the crowds? The buffalo wings vs the barbecue? Don't hold back. I want the truth.

Sounds like Chiefs fans before Mahomes.

Well, I guess we will see then. Allen will be just fine, we aren't worried about him.

I think he plays more relaxed on the road.

****ing the prom queen is so much better.

I agree. If Mahomes plays (which is almost a certainty at this point) and you all DO win, you will absolutely have earned it.

And you are correct that the Chiefs are not infallible and ‘any given Sunday’ and all that, but they are the superior team with the superior QB so you can understand while we’re all noticeably very confident going into this game.

For the record, if the Bills pull off the miracle upset, I will absolutely root for you all in the Super Bowl. You all do deserve to finally win one. Losing 4 in a row must have been brutal. No fanbase deserves that. Well, maybe the Donkos or the Cowboys.

You would have thought the Bills organization would have figured out they were drafting a pussy or not. It seems every little thing bothers him. :deevee:

And now Shitter2003 is back but ThaDix is gone again. ROFL

He thinks we're stupid.

He probably eats less sugar on the road.

Josh Allen to me is a more wild and reckless Roethlisberger.

I tried to get them to just fan trash trash talk “like normal” but they couldn’t stay at that level. They just had to show their ass.

That's not good for the women who choose not to be raped.

That’s a fair comparison, although Allen is a little more athletic.

But the Big Rape went to 3 Super Bowls and won 2. I’m pretty sure most Buffalo fans would signup for that with Allen.