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Halfcan 02-11-2021 11:22 PM

Wilson not happy with the Seahawks?
 
https://sports.yahoo.com/report-more...201257575.html

Charean Williams
Thu, February 11, 2021, 2:12 PM·1 min read

Seattle Seahawks

Russell Wilson
Other teams are wondering what is going on in Seattle. Maybe the Seahawks are wondering what is going on, too.

Russell Wilson‘s media tour has prompted questions about his future with the team.

That has prompted other teams to reach out to the Seahawks about the quarterback’s availability.

Tom Pelissero of NFL Media reports that “more teams have reached out about Russell Wilson, but the Seahawks have shown no inclination to trade their star quarterback, whose media tour continues.”

Wilson’s comments make it clear he isn’t happy with the Seahawks, who reportedly aren’t happy with Wilson’s public comments of dissatisfaction.

His media tour continues Friday on The Ellen Show, so stay tuned.

Winning cures everything, and Wilson and the Seahawks haven’t done much of that in the postseason in recent years.

Wilson hasn’t won a Super Bowl since his second season. He hasn’t been to a Super Bowl since his third season. The Seahawks are only 3-5 in the postseason the past six seasons, failing to advance past the divisional round.

Halfcan 02-11-2021 11:27 PM

https://sports.yahoo.com/raiders-odd...133617629.html

Faders chasing every QB not named Carr.

Currently, there are three hot names in terms of quarterbacks being discussed as potential trade bait. Deshaun Watson tops that list as he has made it clear this offseason that he wants out of Houston. Carson Wentz is a sure bet to be moved as the Eagles are looking to move on from the 2016 second overall pick. And recently Russell Wilson’s potential availability has entered the discussion as well.

Wilson entered the discussion due to recent comments saying he is tired of being sacked so much, suggesting the team doesn’t put enough effort into protecting him.

So, of course, if there’s a possibility any of these three quarterbacks will be traded, there are odds on which team will land them. For Wilson in particular, the leader in the odds is the Raiders at +300. Here are the full odds:

Russell Wilson’s next team odds
Las Vegas Raiders +300
Dallas Cowboys +600
Jacksonville Jaguars +700
Washington Football Team +800
San Francisco 49ers +900
Denver Broncos +1000
Indianapolis Colts +1200
Miami Dolphins +1200
Carolina Panther +1600
Chicago Bears +1600
Houston Texans +1600
New England Patriots+1600
New York Jets +1600
New Orleans Saints +2500
Philadelphia Eagles +2500
Cleveland Browns +4000
Minnesota Vikings +4000
Pittsburgh Steelers +4000
Atlanta Falcons +5000
Cincinnati Bengals +5000
New York Giants +5000
Tennessee Titans +5000

The 32-year-old Wilson is a seven-time Pro Bowler and has a Super Bowl ring to his name. He threw for 40 TDs last season and ran for two more, leading the Seahawks to a 12-4 record. In fact, the Seahawks have never had a losing record since he has been their starting quarterback. And he’s never missed a game in his nine-year career.

Who even knows what it would take in a trade to get Wilson or even if the Seahawks would consider making such a trade.

Who even knows what it would take in a trade to get Wilson or even if the Seahawks would consider making such a trade.

Yeah, he gets sacked a lot, and some of those were his own fault for holding onto the ball too long, but he has some gripe, as well as the Seahawks, have had issues in pass protection. Interesting though that a trade to the Raiders would be reuniting him with offensive line coach Tom Cable.

The Raiders are also listing among the odds for Wentz and Watson, although they are not the leader in the odds for either QB or even in the top five. Here are those odds.

Deshaun Watson next team odds
New York Jets +250
Miami Dolphins +350
Carolina Panthers +450
Denver Broncos +800
San Francisco 49ers +800
Chicago Bears +1600
Indianapolis Colts +1600
Las Vegas Raiders +1600
New England Patriots +1600
Philadelphia Eagles +1600
Washington Football Team +1600
Dallas Cowboys +1800
Atlanta Falcons +3300
Jacksonville Jaguars +3300
New Orleans Saints +4000
Pittsburgh Steelers +4000
Green Bay Packers +5000
Minnesota Vikings +5000
New York Giants +5000
Tennessee Titans +5000
Cincinnati Bengals +10000

Carson Wentz next team odds
Chicago Bears +100
Indianapolis Colts +150
Denver Broncos +800
Washington Football Team +900
Carolina Panthers +1200
Houston Texans +1600
Las Vegas Raiders +1800
New England Patriots +2000
San Francisco 49ers +2000
Dallas Cowboys +2500
Miami Dolphins +2500
New York Jets +2500

TribalElder 02-11-2021 11:28 PM

go hawks

eDave 02-11-2021 11:29 PM

We should just swap.

/s

Sassy Squatch 02-11-2021 11:32 PM

He's frustrated with being hit too much. Can't blame him.

RealSNR 02-11-2021 11:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eDave (Post 15546430)
We should just swap.

/s


Are you sure that’d be enough for the Seahawks? /Deberg

VAGOMO 4 LIFE! 02-11-2021 11:37 PM

Wilson has been sacked 394 times in 144 regular-season games. According to ESPN Stats & Information research, that's the most in a player's first nine seasons since the 1970 AFL-NFL merger.

Halfcan 02-11-2021 11:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE! (Post 15546444)
Wilson has been sacked 394 times in 144 regular-season games. According to ESPN Stats & Information research, that's the most in a player's first nine seasons since the 1970 AFL-NFL merger.

Watson will probably break that record. He loves being sacked.

Buehler445 02-11-2021 11:45 PM

Well, they've done a **** job of putting a team around him, the offense is terrible, and they keep trying to trade him, so I don't blame him.

staylor26 02-11-2021 11:46 PM

He’s just letting them know he wants an OL.

Murray is kind of sending hints too.

We already know Rodgers has hinted at being displeased.

Franchise QB’s are getting ballsy after Watson showed everybody how much power they have.

TribalElder 02-12-2021 12:04 AM

we better focus on O-Line, don't want mahomie to ever feel like this

Imon Yourside 02-12-2021 12:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TribalElder (Post 15546468)
we better focus on O-Line, don't want mahomie to ever feel like this

Amen!

BlackOp 02-12-2021 12:32 AM

Superbowl just ended...and destroying your phone has already been used.

NFL needs drama in the off-season.

displacedinMN 02-12-2021 07:34 AM

Trade Wilson for Rodgers straight up.

notorious 02-12-2021 07:38 AM

Take note, Chiefs.

KCUnited 02-12-2021 07:40 AM

Anyone else tuning into The Ellen Show today to see what happens next in this saga?

Dunerdr 02-12-2021 07:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCUnited (Post 15546611)
Anyone else tuning into The Ellen Show today to see what happens next in this saga?

I'd rather remove my eyes with a rusty spoon.

Red Dawg 02-12-2021 08:14 AM

Mahomes should feel the same. I'm sure he's tired of running around all year to make the play because the OL suck.

stevieray 02-12-2021 10:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCUnited (Post 15546611)
Anyone else tuning into The Ellen Show today to see what happens next in this saga?

This about sums up today's NFL.

Prison Bitch 02-12-2021 10:39 AM

I love these diva shitbag QBs turning into crybaby nba players. Always whining and demanding trades


Punk ass bitches. Every one of them.

The Franchise 02-12-2021 10:42 AM

Jesus ****ing Christ. Do we need to get some offensive linemen because of injuries this year? Yes.

But Wilson has been getting sacked 50+ times every season. Mahomes is in the 20s. It’s not the ****ing same thing. Not at all.

FloridaMan88 02-12-2021 10:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE! (Post 15546444)
Wilson has been sacked 394 times in 144 regular-season games. According to ESPN Stats & Information research, that's the most in a player's first nine seasons since the 1970 AFL-NFL merger.

He holds onto the ball too long and plays too much hero-ball trying to scramble and make spectacular plays, rather than just checking down or getting the ball out quickly to avoid sacks.

ChiefBlueCFC 02-12-2021 11:09 AM

I thought it was pretty funny when it came out that Wilson was a little perturbed with the Seahawks and someone quote tweeted it with a video of Russel Wilson standing in a perfectly clean pocket for 5ish seconds and then taking a sack.

Also, there is no chance in hell Seattle gets rid of him.

SuperBowl4 02-12-2021 11:10 AM

RW probably loves the SEAHAWKS. He's just probably unhappy they play in Seattle.

penguinz 02-12-2021 11:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 15546461)
He’s just letting them know he wants an OL.

Murray is kind of sending hints too.

We already know Rodgers has hinted at being displeased.

Franchise QB’s are getting ballsy after Watson showed everybody how much power they have.

Has he been traded yet? No. So far he has not shown how much power QB's have. If the Texans don't trade him then he has been shown the team has all the power.

penguinz 02-12-2021 11:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 15546917)
Jesus ****ing Christ. Do we need to get some offensive linemen because of injuries this year? Yes.

But Wilson has been getting sacked 50+ times every season. Mahomes is in the 20s. It’s not the ****ing same thing. Not at all.

You are correct, it is not the same. Wilson does everything he can to get sacked while Mahomes does everything he can to not get sacked.

Deberg_1990 02-12-2021 11:21 AM

There’s rumors out there that the Cowboys want him.

PAChiefsGuy 02-13-2021 08:36 PM

**** him. He's getting paid a lot of money and was handed his SB ring due one of the most dominant defenses of all time. He's a crybaby.

Halfcan 02-13-2021 08:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PAChiefsGuy (Post 15549522)
**** him. He's getting paid a lot of money and was handed his SB ring due one of the most dominant defenses of all time. He's a crybaby.

Walter Payton Man of the Year wants a new team.

Dallas has a big O Line, but he will probably still get sacked at a record rate.

Sassy Squatch 02-22-2021 02:43 PM

Intredasting

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Report: A third of the league has reached out to <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Seahawks?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Seahawks</a> about Russell Wilson, per <a href="https://twitter.com/MikeSilver?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@MikeSilver</a> <br><br>The price for Wilson starts at &quot;3 first round draft picks&quot; according to Silver. <a href="https://t.co/uTgIuY7OTE">pic.twitter.com/uTgIuY7OTE</a></p>&mdash; Dov Kleiman (@NFL_DovKleiman) <a href="https://twitter.com/NFL_DovKleiman/status/1363945453499342849?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 22, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Dante84 02-22-2021 02:47 PM

Dov Kleiman is such a piece of shit Mahomes hater.

kcclone 02-22-2021 02:51 PM

3 1st Rounders isn't enough for Wilson, IMO.

3 1st's and 2 2nd's is what it would take for me to even entertain it if I were Seattle

The Franchise 02-22-2021 02:55 PM

Wonder if they could work out a Watson for Wilson swap.

Dante84 02-22-2021 02:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 15560500)
Wonder if they could work out a Watson for Wilson swap.

Wouldn't Russ have to approve that? I imagine he has a no-trade policy.

If so, no way he bites on that.

BossChief 02-22-2021 03:00 PM

If I don’t have a QB and can get Russ for 3 firsts, I pull the trigger.

htismaqe 02-22-2021 03:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 15560500)
Wonder if they could work out a Watson for Wilson swap.

Wilson doesn't want to get hit. He'd hate it in Houston.

Of course, Watson has the same problem with not getting rid of the ball, so I'm sure he'd get the shit beat out of him in Seattle too.

RunKC 02-22-2021 03:05 PM

The Seahawks wanted Josh Allen. They were sniffing around him and Patrick and his camp got pissed about it.

They would have drafted Josh Allen. Might have been okay for them seeing as Allen panned out well, though he’s not Russ

staylor26 02-22-2021 03:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dante84 (Post 15560486)
Dov Kleiman is such a piece of shit Mahomes hater.

Who the fook is that guy?

I noticed him first when he was pushing the narrative that Mahomes threw his teammates under the bus, and now I’m noticing his tweets everywhere.

**** that one who sucks the penis.

Hoover 02-22-2021 03:12 PM

First, I thank God that the Chiefs have Patrick Mahomes even morning and night.

But damn, we Chiefs fans live in the darkness of QB hell for decades, and now all this talent is available if you are willing to pay the price.

I think a lot of shit is going to happen in the next 45 days.

If I'm Jerry Jones, there is no ****ing way I pay Dak, when I could potentially get a Watson or Wilson. A QB like that in Dallas would print money for Jerry. I don't know how in hell they could pull it off, but damn I'd move heaven and earth to make that happen.

The Franchise 02-22-2021 03:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hoover (Post 15560532)
First, I thank God that the Chiefs have Patrick Mahomes even morning and night.

But damn, we Chiefs fans live in the darkness of QB hell for decades, and now all this talent is available if you are willing to pay the price.

I think a lot of shit is going to happen in the next 45 days.

If I'm Jerry Jones, there is no ****ing way I pay Dak, when I could potentially get a Watson or Wilson. A QB like that in Dallas would print money for Jerry. I don't know how in hell they could pull it off, but damn I'd move heaven and earth to make that happen.

I would easily give up three first round picks for Wilson if I’m Jones. He has the offensive line and the weapons to make it deep in the playoffs on that team.

Sassy Squatch 02-22-2021 03:17 PM

Why the **** would Seattle want first rounders anyway? They've been ****ing awful in recent years drafting.

The Franchise 02-22-2021 03:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 15560537)
Why the **** would Seattle want first rounders anyway? They've been ****ing awful in recent years drafting.

To draft more RBs.

bobhill 02-22-2021 03:20 PM

Trade Mahomes for Wilson?

Sassy Squatch 02-22-2021 03:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobhill (Post 15560541)
Trade Mahomes for Wilson?

Leave that to Deberg, please.

Tribal Warfare 02-22-2021 03:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dunerdr (Post 15546622)
I'd rather remove my eyes with a rusty spoon.

https://y.yarn.co/ea6ec5eb-efa9-4f97...debf9_text.gif

sedated 02-22-2021 03:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 15560536)
I would easily give up three first round picks for Wilson if I’m Jones. He has the offensive line and the weapons to make it deep in the playoffs on that team.

Dallas isn't doing shit with McCarthy as coach

HC_Chief 02-22-2021 04:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sedated (Post 15560557)
Dallas isn't doing shit with McCarthy as coach

No doubt, but if you make that kind of move for Wilson, you should also consider getting his take on HC. That may mean dumping McCarthy. QB + HC + GM = magic trio. (of course we are talking about them cowgirls, so strike GM immediately from the equation)

RunKC 02-22-2021 04:28 PM

What I don’t get is why Russell Wilson signed an extension with the Seahawks in 2019? He knew they were sniffing around Patrick Mahomes and Josh Allen and they were even playing hardball with him during extension talks as if they weren’t needing him in the first place, so why sign?

sedated 02-22-2021 04:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 15560616)
What I don’t get is why Russell Wilson signed an extension with the Seahawks in 2019? He knew they were sniffing around Patrick Mahomes and Josh Allen and they were even playing hardball with him during extension talks as if they weren’t needing him in the first place, so why sign?

$100+ million

ThyKingdomCome15 02-22-2021 05:34 PM

If we can simply solidify the trenches on both sides of the ball and find a solid replacement for Breeland. This offseason would get a big W.

Mahomes has got to feel safe and secure while the opposing QB feels the opposite. Last SB was anything but that.

RunKC 02-25-2021 09:43 AM

Russ ain’t ****in around

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">This is gonna be a WILD offseason.<br><br>(via <a href="https://twitter.com/MikeDugar?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@MikeDugar</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/SandoNFL?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@SandoNFL</a> and <a href="https://twitter.com/JaysonJenks?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@JaysonJenks</a>) <a href="https://t.co/5qWUEuJnzD">pic.twitter.com/5qWUEuJnzD</a></p>&mdash; B/R Gridiron (@brgridiron) <a href="https://twitter.com/brgridiron/status/1364957879661457413?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 25, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

The Franchise 02-25-2021 09:49 AM

The Dolphins should be all over that.

In58men 02-25-2021 09:56 AM

Carolina should go after him.

Sassy Squatch 02-25-2021 09:59 AM

From PFT

The article looks closely at the tension between Wilson and the coaching staff regarding Wilson’s desire to essentially be the offense, like Patrick Mahomes in Kansas City. That motivation drove the #LetRussCook phenomenon early in the season. But coach Pete Carroll freaked out after a turnover-fest against the Bills (four from Wilson) and another subpar performance against the Rams (three more Wilson turnovers).

After those seven turnovers from Wilson in two games, the Seahawks faced a short-week challenge against a Cardinals team that had a two-game winning streak against Seattle, and that was riding a wave of euphoria after the Hail Murray win over the Bills.

Here’s what happened next, via the story in TheAthletic.com: “Before the Thursday night game against Arizona, Wilson met with his coaches. For some time, Wilson has sought — even pushed — for influence within the organization regarding scheme and personnel. In the meeting, he outlined his own ideas for how to fix the offense. His suggestions were dismissed, multiple sources told The Athletic — another reminder to Wilson that the Seahawks did not see him the same way he saw himself, as a player who had earned greater control over his situation, his future, his legacy. He stormed out of the room.”

Sassy Squatch 02-25-2021 10:03 AM

If I'm Seattle Carroll and Schneider are the ones that go.

The Franchise 02-25-2021 10:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 15563664)
If I'm Seattle Carroll and Schneider are the ones that go.

Carroll should have been gone a year or two ago.

Sassy Squatch 02-25-2021 10:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 15563667)
Carroll should have been gone a year or two ago.

Yeah its way past time. They've been horrifically underachieving since the Super Bowl 49 embarrassment.

RunKC 02-25-2021 10:09 AM

Be thankful we have Andy and Veach.

Russ was playing in a Marty offense from 30 years ago with no regard to innovation or input. Can’t say I blame Russ one bit.

He sees Patrick getting input, Brady getting input and how fun it can be to play with an offensive coach.

I’d be trying to go to the Saints or Panthers if I were him

Hammock Parties 02-25-2021 10:18 AM

He should try completing more than 40 percent of his passes in a playoff game.

Bowser 02-25-2021 10:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 15563661)
From PFT

The article looks closely at the tension between Wilson and the coaching staff regarding Wilson’s desire to essentially be the offense, like Patrick Mahomes in Kansas City. That motivation drove the #LetRussCook phenomenon early in the season. But coach Pete Carroll freaked out after a turnover-fest against the Bills (four from Wilson) and another subpar performance against the Rams (three more Wilson turnovers).

After those seven turnovers from Wilson in two games, the Seahawks faced a short-week challenge against a Cardinals team that had a two-game winning streak against Seattle, and that was riding a wave of euphoria after the Hail Murray win over the Bills.

Here’s what happened next, via the story in TheAthletic.com: “Before the Thursday night game against Arizona, Wilson met with his coaches. For some time, Wilson has sought — even pushed — for influence within the organization regarding scheme and personnel. In the meeting, he outlined his own ideas for how to fix the offense. His suggestions were dismissed, multiple sources told The Athletic — another reminder to Wilson that the Seahawks did not see him the same way he saw himself, as a player who had earned greater control over his situation, his future, his legacy. He stormed out of the room.”

Brought to mind how the Packers brass supposedly texted Rodgers and told him they ran the show.

I'm with Pest - if I'm the Dolphins I'm doing all I can to make that trade happen.

Pants 02-25-2021 10:55 AM

This is craziest ****ing off season ever.

ToxSocks 02-25-2021 10:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 15563661)
From PFT

The article looks closely at the tension between Wilson and the coaching staff regarding Wilson’s desire to essentially be the offense, like Patrick Mahomes in Kansas City. That motivation drove the #LetRussCook phenomenon early in the season. But coach Pete Carroll freaked out after a turnover-fest against the Bills (four from Wilson) and another subpar performance against the Rams (three more Wilson turnovers).

After those seven turnovers from Wilson in two games, the Seahawks faced a short-week challenge against a Cardinals team that had a two-game winning streak against Seattle, and that was riding a wave of euphoria after the Hail Murray win over the Bills.

Here’s what happened next, via the story in TheAthletic.com: “Before the Thursday night game against Arizona, Wilson met with his coaches. For some time, Wilson has sought — even pushed — for influence within the organization regarding scheme and personnel. In the meeting, he outlined his own ideas for how to fix the offense. His suggestions were dismissed, multiple sources told The Athletic — another reminder to Wilson that the Seahawks did not see him the same way he saw himself, as a player who had earned greater control over his situation, his future, his legacy. He stormed out of the room.”

So basically Wilson and Watson are jealous of Mahomes. They see the fun and success he's having and the legacy he's building and think they can achieve the same success if they just had a different team/coaching staff.

Eureka 02-25-2021 11:03 AM

Highly doubt Wilson will be traded. Who is going to be their QB for this upcoming season?

Things will be patched up between everyone and they will involve Wilson a bit more. He seems to always be making plays for that team.

Pants 02-25-2021 11:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eureka (Post 15563730)
Highly doubt Wilson will be traded. Who is going to be their QB for this upcoming season?

Derek Carr? Tua? Whoever they end up trading with will probably swap QBs.

Eureka 02-25-2021 11:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pants (Post 15563733)
Derek Carr? Tua? Whoever they end up trading with will probably swap QBs.

Well anything is possible. Tua on the Seahawks in that division seems like he would be the 4th best QB. Even Carr but at least he's seasoned.

The Franchise 02-25-2021 11:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eureka (Post 15563730)
Highly doubt Wilson will be traded. Who is going to be their QB for this upcoming season?

Things will be patched up between everyone and they will involve Wilson a bit more. He seems to always be making plays for that team.

Well if they trade with the Jets, they can get the #2 pick and draft one.

staylor26 02-25-2021 11:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eureka (Post 15563730)
Highly doubt Wilson will be traded. Who is going to be their QB for this upcoming season?

Things will be patched up between everyone and they will involve Wilson a bit more. He seems to always be making plays for that team.

Exactly.

That team was in win now mode when they traded 2 1st round picks for a safety. They have Metcalf on a rookie deal. They aren’t going to turnaround and start over at QB right now.

pugsnotdrugs19 02-25-2021 11:10 AM

Idk what’s gonna happen but I’m not happy about the possibility of the AFC getting even more quality QB play. The balance is already way off in favor of the AFC.

Pants 02-25-2021 11:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eureka (Post 15563734)
Well anything is possible. Tua on the Seahawks in that division seems like he would be the 4th best QB. Even Carr but at least he's seasoned.

Well, yeah, nobody is arguing that it's good for Seattle to trade Russ. They need to keep him if at all possible.

I'm talking from the point of view where they have no choice but to trade.

RunKC 02-25-2021 11:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 15563737)
Exactly.

That team was in win now mode when they traded 2 1st round picks for a safety. They have Metcalf on a rookie deal. They aren’t going to turnaround and start over at QB right now.

It’s a message that had to be sent. The guy had to deal with a 1990’s offense, horrible drafting and absolutely no input? Not to mention the Seahawks sniffing around Patrick Mahomes and Josh Allen (per Chris Simms there were trade talks with CLE).

These guys see the news. They see Patrick getting texts from his GM asking what they’d like in the draft. They see the innovation. They also see Tom Brady leaving a horrible micro managed situation and going to an offensive minded team that let him have input to bring in Gronk, Brown and Fournette.

Can’t say I blame Russ one bit for wanting that

-King- 02-25-2021 11:14 AM

I don't think Russell will be traded but if he doesn't get traded, I see a "Pete Carroll and the Seattle seahawks have agreed to mutually part ways" coming in the next couple years.

ToxSocks 02-25-2021 11:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pants (Post 15563740)
Well, yeah, nobody is arguing that it's good for Seattle to trade Russ. They need to keep him if at all possible.

I'm talking from the point of view where they have no choice but to trade.

Wilson is chasing a legacy, so unless Carroll changes the offense to suit what Wilson thinks will help his legacy he's gonna dip. It may not be this season, but he's talking waaaay too much smoke for there not to be a fire.

And with Carroll seemingly doubling down on his run first offense it seems like Wilson leaving to stat chase is an inevitability.

staylor26 02-25-2021 11:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 15563742)
It’s a message that had to be sent. The guy had to deal with a 1990’s offense, horrible drafting and absolutely no input? Not to mention the Seahawks sniffing around Patrick Mahomes and Josh Allen (per Chris Simms there were trade talks with CLE).

These guys see the news. They see Patrick getting texts from his GM asking what they’d like in the draft. They see the innovation. They also see Tom Brady leaving a horrible micro managed situation and going to an offensive minded team that let him have input to bring in Gronk, Brown and Fournette.

Can’t say I blame Russ one bit for wanting that

I absolutely don’t blame Wilson, and I totally see where he’s coming from. I just don’t think a trade is likely.

Eureka 02-25-2021 11:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pants (Post 15563740)
Well, yeah, nobody is arguing that it's good for Seattle to trade Russ. They need to keep him if at all possible.

I'm talking from the point of view where they have no choice but to trade.

Def not good for Seattle. Another way to look at it. If you were a newly hired Coach for Seattle what would you prefer to have.

Russell Wilson as your starting QB

or

Sam Darnold, 2nd overall pick, +2021 1st round pick, and a 2022 1st rd pick

Derek Carr, 17th overall pick, and 2022 1st round pick

Tua, 3rd overall pick, +2021 1st round pick, and a 2022 1st rd pick

Whatever the Saints have to offer

Patriots next 3 1st rd picks and 2 2nd round picks

Or possibly players + picks from a dark horse team that wants Wilson.

GoForIt 02-25-2021 11:32 AM

Wilson said one of his choices would be the Jets. That makes both Watson and now Wilson that have named the Jets as a preferred destination. Selah must be one heck of a players coach.

Sassy Squatch 02-25-2021 11:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoForIt (Post 15563766)
Wilson said one of his choices would be the Jets. That makes both Watson and now Wilson that have named the Jets as a preferred destination. Selah must be one heck of a players coach.

Lifestyle and the appeal of being the guy to turn the franchises fortune around.

TribalElder 02-25-2021 11:44 AM

Wilson also mentioned the Raiders ROFL

Hoover 02-25-2021 11:47 AM

I don't see why Vegas would be attractive to Watson or Wilson.

Denver, sure. But I still believe that if these QBs are actually on the market, then big market teams like Dallas and New England will come calling.

wazu 02-25-2021 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Hoover (Post 15563780)
I don't see why Vegas would be attractive to Watson or Wilson.

Denver, sure. But I still believe that if these QBs are actually on the market, then big market teams like Dallas and New England will come calling.

Every NFL player wants to play for the Raiders. (Except Mahomes, of course.) It's one of the strange paradoxes in all of sports. "I want to go somewhere that I can win. I want to play for the Raiders."

Eureka 02-25-2021 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by TribalElder (Post 15563775)
Wilson also mentioned the Raiders ROFL

They do have a good offensive line, a great TE, and decent RB. Las Vegas isn't to bad of a destination.

Does Wilson make the 8-8 Raiders a better team. I think so.


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