Whatever happens, you have to love Veach’s approach
 

It doesn’t matter whether you get to the AFCCG or SB, if you don’t get it done and there are question marks going into the offseason, Veach is going to make big changes and let his nuts hang.

We’re literally just as blessed to have Veach as we are to have Mahomes/Reid. We just don’t quite realize that yet.

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Veach is a ruthless mother ****er

The man damn sure knows how to dance, but you'll never see him doing the Half Step or the Pussyfoot

You can't incrementally repair or band-aid the Chiefs offensive line after what happened in the Super Bowl and with Fisher/Schwartz facing long term injury situations at 30+ years of age.

Burn that shit down and built it up better than ever.

Veach did it with the defense two years ago and that resulted in a Super Bowl.

Yup. It's clear priority #1 for Veach is taking care of Patrick.

Burt is like the human incarnation of a CP GDT running an NFL team, but with good results.

“This brokedick piece of shit ****ing sucks. Get the **** off my team. Go get your shit pushed in on someone else’s dollar.”

ROFL

This is actually a perfect analogy.

Absolutely LOVE how Veach got out in front of this, rather than take the "wait & see" approach. Being proactive is always a better choice than having to be reactive.

LMAO

He definitely does things whole-ass.

Agreed.

Doesn’t go with the status quo even when this team is a final 2 or final 4 finisher.

So often great teams fizzle out and it’s because they don’t cut their losses soon enough. He just keeps churning along. Bring in new blood that hasn’t experienced winning quite like this perhaps and is hungry to get us back again to that SB.

I wonder if Wylie is not coming back as well.

Don’t have to worry about chemistry is they’re all new.

He's super aggressive, which I think matches the team we see on the field. I love it, I think it shows an overall mindset that's unified throughout the organization.

Yep.

I mean, not all of his moves have been perfect and some of the biggest ones (Frank Clark) still have question marks.

But on a day like today, it's hard to argue with what he's done so far, regardless of whether it turns out to be better than what we had.

He basically said that he's going to strike out swinging for the fences because he thinks he can hit a home run every time, rather than just stand there and watch the ball go by.

Would..

FA's are salivating.

You have to imagine guys like Rodgers and Wilson are really envious of Mahomes. They see his GM do everything he can to improve the team around his franchise Qb. Meanwhile their GM's do shit like draft a project Qb in the first round just to show you who's boss, or saddle you with a garbage line for years.

What this says is the only player on the team who is safe for the next 10 years is Patrick.

You gotta carry your weight if you want a chance at a ring or you'll be kicked off the bus.

after watching front office after front office do incremental bullshit attempts for forty ****ing years it's really refreshing to see Veach just unafraid to blow shit up to try to get better. I ****ing love it.

Ah yes, wise words. See my sig.

The OL is a problem and has been for a few years. Mahomes highlight reels are full of him getting out of danger. Watch a Brady highlight reel. They are boring as **** and he never has to move. He's so overrated. Fake GOAT.

Dane nailed it - he's a ****ing assassin.

Veach will have a statue outside of Arrowhead when it’s all said and done with and will probably be the HOF

I wouldn't hate him as guard depth

Ballsy moves. I like that they're moving on now; you don't want to wait too long to move on from players (especially older injured players).

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Except he did do incremental last off season. Run it back with the same players/coaches was the theme and slogan.

He made major moves with the cap and contracts but the players and coaches didn't change the roster. 2 starters changed.

I and everyone else thought that was the right move but we knew and they knew our OL depth was shit. In retrospect, we should have got better backups on the OL. But............ just about every position, on every team, you lose your starter, your ****ed.

After winning a Super Bowl for the first time in 50 years, trying to keep things together was the right move. In retrospect, it was still the right move because we made it all the way back to the Super Bowl with a mash unit as an offensive line.

Even without the Fisher injury, they had like 9 starting configurations before the AFCCG. That's impossibly bad luck.

This. There was no guarantee Fisher or Mitch would be back to their pre-injury selves and even then, we'd have to pay a rental T for part of the season while Fisher got up to speed. While I hate to see it end for them like this, it's a business and the business is keeping PMII alive. Reiter was going to want a Brink's truck worth of cash for his services and we just didn't have it.

well, if Fisher and Schwartz are healthy for the Super Bowl, we're probably polishing ring #2. In a plague year, getting the band back together was the right move. No plague, and Niang and LDT are in there too.


It's not like it wasn't addressed. And this offseason is different; even without the achilles, Fisher was hobbled with a back issue. Schwartz missed half the season. It's the right move to cut them and fix it.

I wasn't questioning the incremental approach, It was the right thing to do. Your core players were in their prime. All the coaches were back. It was the right move.

Pretty sure we easily could've paid Reiter, but...

A) He isn't nearly worth what he'll get in free agency

B) It looks like Veach has had more than enough of "good enough"

Agree 100%

Dude is as important to this team as Mahomes and Reid.

Since he's been here I get as excited about the offseason as the season itself. Its an uncomfortable thing to walk away from both your starting tackles but its also the right thing to do concerning their injury status. I feel bad for both, but more so for Fisher as I'm confident Veach would have extended him. Its a business, and when you have Mahomes in his prime you have to go for the ring.

I think this is where I'm at: Veach has always (seemingly) made the right moves at the right time, regardless of whether that move is being aggressive or standing pat.....There's a thing or two to be critical of, but for the most part, it's very hard to argue with what he's done during his tenure.

I think the moves today will ultimately prove out to be the right calls....

Veach didn’t go incremental or halfway with the Run it Back strategy last offseason... he went aggressively all in and brought every key contributor back from the Super Bowl team except for Fuller and Ogbah (excluding Damien Williams and LDT who opted out).

Honestly a “post of the year” candidate.

We don’t know how blessed we truly are with Veach in control.

Lions release TE Jesse James. That’s a perfect backup TE to Kelce

Best thread of the year so far.

You don’t win in the NFL on loyalty.

Today's events remind me of the end of Godfather 1.

But really, we're all okay with this because Veach did the same thing to a defense that had led the league in sacks and completely went scorched earth with it. It was tough to trust the process but we did.

That's a reasonably limited sample size, and it's entirely possible the OL may suck just as much next year. But I don't want hear any bitching because this is absolutely what was needed. We can't go into the offseason (let alone next season) not knowing what we have in our two pricey OTs.

Veach did what was necessary. In Veach we trust.

This is the way.

One of the biggest knocks about Lamar and the old Chiefs if that they would hang onto their favorites at whatever cost. This regime has dumped loveable guys who were no longer performing at the highest level. Got to respect it at the end of the day this game is all about rings.

I'm pretty sure Veach visited with Andy before today (and maybe Mahomes) and got his thoughts. There's a plan and we just aren't privy to it. The plan may be a 1 year rental from a vet wanting a ring,

I doubt the plan is a 1-year rental when they cut both starting tackles.

They've got a plan that includes a permanent replacement for Fisher with either a FA or a trade.

Yeah for a few games till your starters get healthy. Fulltime is a clown show.

Yes but Fish was still young but that achilles was devastating and wrong leg for a LT. Just too big a risk not to move on.

Mitch was an easier move bad backs are a bitch for O lineman. We never hear much about John Alt a great tackle who played with a bad back most of his Chiefs career. I am willing to bet life is not easy for him now.

Justin Houston there are folks here who still want him back when he was as polarizing as Berry in his final years here.

With Mahomes' contract starting to take it's effect on the cap, wouldn't burning down the questionable OLine and rebuilding it with talented rookies on cheap contracts make the most sense for success? Plus a potential splash deal on a proven veteran to help mold those rookies for the future?

It just seems logical.

I think its partially this, an effort to get cheaper, but i think its even more a **** good enough attitude, press on towards greatness. This line was only even respectable because Fish and Mitch gave us pro bowl caliber play year in and year out, now the corner stones have cracked there is absoulutely no reason to hang on to this. If we had any QB not named Mahomes, Wilson, or Watson the last two years, were probably not a deep playoff run team. For all the people penciling in LDT, im not convinced he will be in play. He wasnt great last year then took a year away from the game.

I guess I should have made myself a little more clear. I believe we already have a replacement for one of them in Niang. Durant may be in the mix, but my guess the plan is to draft a permanent replacement and use a rental this season.

It might be that. Or it might also mean we will gladly take 5 mediums instead of 2 excellents.

Yep. **** that guy.

Given the fact that we now have an offensive line comprised of ghosts, phantasms, invalids, and hopes, I cannot in good conscience award any Veachy Power Points so far this off-season.

However, Veach has a solid bonanza of 100 Power Points awaiting him the day he cuts Eric Bieniemy.

FAX

Why?

it's safe to say he doesn't agree with how dorsey handled things :D

You think they're just going to leave it the way it is?

Free agency doesn't start until next Wednesday. All we're seeing now is the cuts.

Just be patient.

We can do both.

Unprecedented year in FA and, per the draft gurus, OL class is solid.

I would contend that the Frank Clark move is not a question mark.

Frank was brought here to help KC get to and win a Superbowl.

At the time, Chiefs fans wouldnt care if frank cost 200 million if you were told, listen, we make this deal you will see KC win a superbowl.

Franks playoff run was about as good as you can ask for, closing out every post season game with sacks after talking mad shit leading up to, and during those games.

We won the Superbowl.

Now we are afflicted by greed, and now the one title we saw isnt enough, now we want all the titles for the next 15 years.

Frank didnt live up to the contract last season and we still only lost 2 games that counted. But to me, it doesnt matter. Frank was part of a massive culture change that led to a superbowl win.

I cant call that a question mark move by Veach.

All of this.

I was thinking about this the other day...and I hope Andy is doing well with all that’s going on, and has had time to compartmentalize.

Hope he’s all in on the roster change conversations this free agent season.

I don't care if we overpaid and now he's hurting the cap. We won the Super Bowl. Clark was an essential part of why we won the Super Bowl. It was a good deal because we won the Super Bowl. I waited 50 years. Frank Clark will be forever a part of that pretty pretty good memory.

I've trusted him like a father since the day he drafted Mahomes.

He'll be my Adopt-a-Chief until he's done. :thumb:

Bart Peach is a swell guy and a snazzy dresser. WBF

It's natural for Chiefs fans to have PTSD in terms of trusting a GM.

Steadman, Carl, Fat Scott, John Dorsey... that history will create a built-in GM skepticism.

I don’t expect my gm to bat a thousand.

Sometimes shit happens.

The biggest thing is always be flexible and pivot. He’s shown that he’s one of the best at that

They're not going to start a rookie at LT.

If they bring in a guy like Williams though, they'll likely look at a developmental tackle in the draft.

This. 50 years for me too. Frank showed up when it was necessary to help exorcise the demons. Magical season.

And he's 43 years old. He's just getting started.

Bump.

Let this man cook.

I’ve said it over and over, Veach is aggressive, but he’s also selective. He will grab a couple more free agents with the space they created, and if we can have another good to great draft, this team is still on track to continue dominating.

The next person that bitches about Veach should be banned tbh

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Amen!

I’m kind of indifferent on the Clark trade as of right now.

With the picks and cap space dedicated to Clark, we very likely could get more than he provides.

That said, the man has 8 postseason sacks and 11 QB hits in 6 postseason games with us. If he’s providing that when it matters AND we’re making it to the Super Bowl, then I have a hard time being too mad about it.

Now that we’ve paid Mahomes, I’m very much against trading first round picks and giving big contracts to guys like Clark. That’s just too much investment in one player.

Bumpity bump

I am so thankful that we chose Brett Veach over Chris Ballard. I think Ballard has done a good job in Indy but moved like today are what put Veach in the drivers seat over guys like Ballard and Dorsey.

The value in trades that Veach has made is outstanding. Only the Frank Clark deal stands out as a true overpay, but he raped the Rams into giving us a 2nd to counteract our lack of picks early that year.

We are going to be a dynasty bc of this man

This!!!

Dude repaired the porous OL before the draft.


:doh!: