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I own the 2021 KC Draft guide. AMA.
It's a 300 page superdocument created by the smart kids behind the AP Lab, to document as many NFL prospects as possible, specifically with a KC angle that allows for them to tell us how good of a fit such-and-such players are for the 2021 Chiefs.
Any questions about it and its contents, I will answer with the guide. Ask away. |
So which position are we drafting because offensive tackle is just WAY too obvious?
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It only grades and reviews prospects, and asks how well each one would fit KC. |
Fair enough. Which prospect out there grades the highest based on the three obvious areas the Chiefs might lean in the first round?
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What's it say about Brenden Jaimes?
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That being said, the highest grades at WR are (bold players are people they grade as "high fits" with the Chiefs, italics are players they grade as "medium fits"): 1st round grade: Ja'Marr Chase, LSU Devonta Smith, Alabama 2nd round grade: Jaylen Waddle, Alabama Rashod Bateman, Minnesota Dyami Brown, North Carolina Kadarious Toney, Florida At OT: 1st round grade: Penei Sewell, Oregon Rashawn Slater, Northwestern 2nd round grade: Teven Jenkins, Oklahoma State Christian Darrisaw, Virginia Tech Alijah Vera-Tucker, USC Jalen Mayfield, Michigan Liam Eichenberg, Notre Dame Samuel Cosmi, Texas Dillon Radunz, North Dakota State At DE: 1st round grade: Kwity Paye, Michigan Jaelen Phillips, Miami 2nd round grade: Jayson Oweh, Penn State Azeez Ojulari, Georgia <--- low fit Joseph Ossai, Texas Joe Tryon, Washington Gregory Rousseau, Miami Daelin Hayes, Notre Dame |
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He is their 28th ranked OT. He has a 5th round grade. They do not have a write-up on him. |
Jaylen Waddle and Dyami Browm with similar grading?
Yikes! |
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They are high as hell on Brown, however, who they see as excellent at defeating CBs more on his own than scheme-designed, and is "maybe the best vertical threat in this draft class," and runs a ton of routes very well. They conclude by asking about Brown that even though they'd be reaching for him if they select him in the 1st, it could be a "match made in heaven." Waddle still has the higher grade, however. Edit: Waddle is their 20th ranked prospect. Brown is their 38th. |
More likely and better fit in later rounds WR?
Josh I Seth Williams Anthony Schwartz Ihmar Smith-Marsette Sage Surratt |
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Williams is the 16th (104th) with a 3rd round grade, a high fit Surratt is the 27th (180th) with a 5th round grade, a medium fit Schwartz is the 30th (202nd) with a 5th round grade, a high fit Imatorbhebhe is the 34th (251st) with a 6th-7th round grade, and they did not write a review or name a fit |
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This happens every year though. WR's are beauty in the eye of the beholder. |
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Everyone makes mistakes. |
Simi Fehoko analysis?
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Personally, I've probably called as many good players bad as I have bad players good. The law of averages always gets everyone. I could be wrong on Brown, who I think is in the top 5 WRs in this class. I could be wrong on Forsythe, who others are high on early and I'm more of a mid-round guy on him. Even the best GMs only hit on about 3 players per draft. Hell, the chances of getting a starter out of round 1 is only around 30%, with diminishing returns thereafter. |
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What did I miss? What did I not see. I really like Seth Williams but my overenthusiasm for Hakeem Butler has taught me to be more observant of how long it can take. So with Williams you see 40% of the plays where he looks like a superstar but you need to move him down the board because he isn't consistent. There are some bad rep there too. If you draft him you need to wait till year 2 , year 3 to see if you hit on something nice. |
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His separation is just ridiculous. |
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They say he's big and imposing, creating space through technique and hand usage, with elite long speed. But they do say he's linear and doesn't have a ton of "snap to his hips," along with some bad drops. |
Yeah on the WRs I like Waddle a ton and think DaVonta Smith is severely overrated.
My top 15 would shake out around this, depending on a particular team's needs: 1. JaMarr Chase 2. Jalen Waddle 3. Dyami Brown 4. Elijah Moore 5. Rashod Bateman 6. DaVonta Smith 7. Kadarius Toney 8. Terrace Marshall 9. Tylan Wallace 10. Amari Rodgers 11. Seth Williams 12. Dazz Newsome 13. Nico Collins 14. Tutu Atwell 15. DWayne Eskridge |
I also think DaVonta Smith is super overrated. I cannot get the obsession there.
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What did they say about Tylan Wallace? I know he didn’t have the best pro-day, so I’m curious as to what they think.
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Also, Daniel Jeremiah just dropped his mock draft and has us taking Kelvin Johnson CB Kentucky. I would be VERY surprised if we go CB.
It could happen since this draft is loaded with OT and WR |
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They have him as the 68th overall player on their big board. They call him "an absolute DOG with the ball in the air and has a my-ball mentality." They say his ability to make contested catches is almost second-to-none in the draft class, and has good route running abilities, though he'll need refinement, and they say "he's a quarterback's best friend" because he keeps working to get open until the play is truly over. They also say he's average in terms of stature and speed, and press man coverage can screw with him at the LOS. He's readymade for the NFL, they say, and would be a good fit for some of Mahomes' more creative YOLO balls and scramble drills. |
Would you mind sharing what they think of the pair of Clemson receivers Amari Rodgers and Cornell Powell?
TIA! |
I listen to the pod and often wonder as they clamor about their guys, have they hit on any previous picks?
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WR Tommarion "Scary" Terry from FSU have any upside?
He'd be a late rounder WR I'd take a flyer on. |
What’s the story on Larry Borom from Mizzou?
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Spencer Brown?
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Brown played tight end all through high school. Put on tons of artificial weight in college.”when he was converted to O-line. While his athleticism is through the roof, I worry that he will suffer from JJ Watt syndrome and always be injured because he has to work so hard to keep weight on.
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Artificial weight? ROFL
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You think these dudes walk around naturally at these weights when their careers are over let alone entire off-seasons? Industry term. When Akiem Hicks was recruited to LSU out of high school, it was as a linebacker and he weighed between 225-240 lbs. max. He is currently listed at over 350 lbs. |
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PFN alludes to his high school/college transformation here: https://www.profootballnetwork.com/s...le-uni-tackle/ Decent read. I’ll see if I can’t find it... |
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Amari Rodgers is WR14 (95th prospect overall) with a 3rd round grade. His playing style is compared to Randall Cobb's and he's given a "medium fit" designation for the Chiefs. They say he's "one of the grittiest, smartest" players in the draft, built like a RB who showcases a great vertical and great speed to get deep, playing completely fearlessly and was still productive after Trevor Lawrence went down. However, he is mostly a threat to zone defenses, and may have trouble shaking CBs in the NFL, as his route running needs a lot of work and he can get out-physicalled quite a bit. Cornell Powell is WR31 (220th prospect overall) with a 5th round grade. He does not have an analysis in the guide. |
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2. QB Zach Wilson, BYU 3. TE Kyle Pitts, Florida 4. OT Penei Sewell, Oregon 5. QB Justin Fields, Ohio State 6. LB Micah Parsons, Penn State 7. OT Rashawn Slater, Northwestern 8. CB Jaycee Horn, South Carolina 9. EDGE Kwity Paye, Michigan 10. WR Ja'Marr Chase, LSU 11. CB Patrick Surtain II, Alabama 12. EDGE Jaysen Oweh, Penn State 13. EDGE Jaelen Phillips, Miami 14. QB Trey Lance, North Dakota State 15. EDGE Azeez Ojulari, Georgia 16. WR Devonta Smith, Alabama 17. OT Teven Jenkins, Oklahoma State 18. OT Christian Darrisaw, Virginia Tech 19. CB Caleb Farley, Virginia Tech 20. WR Jaylen Waddle, Alabama 21. RB Najee Harris, Alabama 22. OT Alijah Vera-Tucker, USC 23. OT Jalen Mayfield, Michigan 24. WR Rashod Bateman, Minnesota 25. CB Greg Newsome II, Minnesota 26. EDGE Joseph Ossai, Texas 27. TE Brevin Jordan, Miami 28. IOL Landon Dickerson, Alabama 29. S Trevor Moehrig, TCU 30. EDGE Joe Tryon, Washington 31. OT Liam Eichenberg, Norte Dame |
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He's, clearly, "massive," and moves like a much smaller player. His strength is in the run game, where he roadgrades and eradicates at the 2nd level. His play in the pass is strong, too, showing savvy abilities in managing passrushers. He is still very, very raw, however, and has a lot of technicalities to clean up -- he's still relatively new to the position. They compare his playing style to Kaleb McGary, and conclude he has a rare set of skills that are appealing but is only a "medium fit" because the Chiefs are so pass-heavy. A long-term project. |
What about WR Ihmir Smith-Marsette?
Also, what do you guys think about him? https://youtu.be/1pR7m07KLqA I feel like he can be our Juju lol. He has those jet sweep routes on point. |
I like Smith-Marsette alot actually. I don't know if he can be a #2 but I think he's a good #4 receiver that can push the offense vertically and he's a good returner. Both of those bring value in about the 5th round for me.
He's very linear, which is the bulk of his issues IMO. Not much wiggle. He has to use some pretty severe upper body faking on double-moves and he won't get away with it as much in the NFL. It will really depend on how well he can learn to run routes in the NFL... I suppose that sounds generic as ****. But yeah, he's not going to just blow the doors off the guys at this level. He'll have to do more underneath, but his body is slim. He's not JuJu, nor anywhere near it, from a physical perspective. |
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Azeez is a low fit -- he's what, 245 pounds soaking wet? The Guide argues he is exclusively a 3-4 rushbacker. |
Kiper just dropped his new mock draft, I’m not about to pay to read his mocks though.
Edit: He has us drafting Jayson Oweh in the 1st and Walker Little in the 2nd. |
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Zero sacks, and a guy who hasn’t suited up in forever.
Get outta here with this shit. |
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Walker Little in the 2nd is bigtime. He could legit start at LT.
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