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Tribal Warfare 04-19-2021 03:12 PM

Reid: Doors open for Fisher & Schwartz
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Chiefs coach Andy Reid said the &quot;door always remains open&quot; on Eric Fisher and Mitchell Schwartz, both of whom were released days in salary cap moves before the start of free agency.</p>&mdash; Herbie Teope (@HerbieTeope) <a href="https://twitter.com/HerbieTeope/status/1384169689719312389?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 19, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Ming the Merciless 04-19-2021 03:14 PM

i mean...I wouldn't close my mind to any options at this point but I guess it would depend on $$$$

cmh6476 04-19-2021 03:20 PM

Have we signed these pieces of shit yet?

eDave 04-19-2021 03:21 PM

Time's theirs.

seclark 04-19-2021 05:56 PM

Bring em in for a look
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Frazod 04-19-2021 06:01 PM

I'd very much like to have Fisher back, but I think Schwartz is done.

saphojunkie 04-19-2021 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Frazod (Post 15635125)
I'd very much like to have Fisher back, but I think Schwartz is done.

this is where I'm at, but honestly I feel like Villanueva is about the same as Fisher except he won't automatically miss the majority of the season.

Tribal Warfare 04-19-2021 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Frazod (Post 15635125)
I'd very much like to have Fisher back, but I think Schwartz is done.

If Niang is slated as the starting LT, then it'll make Fisher the swing tackle

smithandrew051 04-19-2021 06:08 PM

We re-sign these pieces of shit yet?

chiefforlife 04-19-2021 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 15635129)
If Niang is slated as the starting LT, then it'll make Fisher the swing tackle

Id take both back in a heartbeat IF they can play.

Fish may surprise us and be ready to go. its not impossible. Schwartz too.

saphojunkie 04-19-2021 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 15635129)
If Niang is slated as the starting LT, then it'll make Fisher the swing tackle

I'd be down with Niang at LT, but clearly that was never the plan, given how hard they went after Trent Williams. I think the plan was clearly to use free agency on the OL and go defense/Wr with the first two picks.

Now we are probably looking at a trade up for a left tackle in the first round.

VAGOMO 4 LIFE! 04-19-2021 06:10 PM

If Fisher is 100% he’s your starting LT

Titty Meat 04-19-2021 06:19 PM

Let's get to 1k posts

YayMike 04-19-2021 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE! (Post 15635138)
If Fisher is 100% he’s your starting LT

Yep. Niang at RT and the line is set. I’m sure we draft a tackle in the first few rounds, but they know how far along Fisher is and my guess is he’s ready to roll if not by week 1, shortly after.

VAGOMO 4 LIFE! 04-19-2021 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by YayMike (Post 15635159)
Yep. Niang at RT and the line is set. I’m sure we draft a tackle in the first few rounds, but they know how far along Fisher is and my guess is he’s ready to roll if not by week 1, shortly after.

Exactly! I think the fans of the Chiefs severely underrate Fisher

Tribal Warfare 04-19-2021 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE! (Post 15635138)
If Fisher is 100% he’s your starting LT

Fisher's not and never will be since he's 30 and not 25

VAGOMO 4 LIFE! 04-19-2021 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 15635164)
Fisher's not and never will be since he's 30 and not 25

Fisher has had his best seasons after turning 25....

Tribal Warfare 04-19-2021 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE! (Post 15635168)
Fisher has had his best seasons after turning 25....


:facepalm:

TwistedChief 04-19-2021 06:50 PM

This is obviously good optionality for us to have. It's why it was a relatively easy decision for the team in the first place to cut ties. We can't rely upon players we can't count on and have to move on. But if somehow they regain their health and want to come back, we then have a potential embarrassment of riches and depth on the OL.

Fingers crossed with expectations extremely low...

Stryker 04-19-2021 06:53 PM

Would welcome back Fisher in a heartbeat. Schwartz, not so much.

VAGOMO 4 LIFE! 04-19-2021 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 15635169)
:facepalm:

Fisher has literally made two pro bowls after turning 27

Stryker 04-19-2021 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by TwistedChief (Post 15635173)
This is obviously good optionality for us to have. It's why it was a relatively easy decision for the team in the first place to cut ties. We can't rely upon players we can't count on and have to move on. But if somehow they regain their health and want to come back, we then have a potential embarrassment of riches and depth on the OL.

Fingers crossed with expectations extremely low...

Well put and you are absolutely right. It is a "dream" more than a "reality". The Chiefs needed their hands forced to replace the tackles with youth. NOW!

Tribal Warfare 04-19-2021 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE! (Post 15635176)
Fisher has literally made two pro bowls after turning 27

I'm being as nice as possible, but you know being injured when you're 30 is absolutely different than being able to recover while you're in your mid-twenties

BossChief 04-19-2021 07:18 PM

That would be some 3D chess type shit if both are re-signed after the draft and it was just a ploy to get teams to move up in front of us thinking we NEED OTs and they need to move up to get one when all we wanted was a different player to fall to us.

IowaHawkeyeChief 04-19-2021 07:20 PM

I said this early on and think we will sign 1 at least...

VAGOMO 4 LIFE! 04-19-2021 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 15635186)
I'm being as nice as possible, but you know being injured when you're 30 is absolutely different than being able to recover while you're in your mid-twenties

You severely underestimate Fisher

In58men 04-19-2021 07:41 PM

Chiefs are not going to bring back Fisher if they think he’s going to be a liability.

Stryker 04-19-2021 08:26 PM

You can also look at this as "Hey we ****ed up". The Trent Williams deal didn't work out as we planned so, please forgive us and bring your "broke dick" asses back so that we can semi keep Mahomes upright. :hmmm:

htismaqe 04-19-2021 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by saphojunkie (Post 15635136)
I'd be down with Niang at LT, but clearly that was never the plan, given how hard they went after Trent Williams. I think the plan was clearly to use free agency on the OL and go defense/Wr with the first two picks.

Now we are probably looking at a trade up for a left tackle in the first round.

Actually, Reid today said it was the plan to have Niang play LT, just maybe not in the immediate future. He said they had "aspirations" of putting him at LT before he opted out.

htismaqe 04-19-2021 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Stryker (Post 15635396)
You can also look at this as "Hey we ****ed up". The Trent Williams deal didn't work out as we planned so, please forgive us and bring your "broke dick" asses back so that we can semi keep Mahomes upright. :hmmm:

Andy pretty clearly said that it wasn't a football move, it was a cap move. They weren't healthy and the Chiefs needed the money.

I highly doubt either one of them come back.

carcosa 04-19-2021 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Titty Meat (Post 15635151)
Let's get to 1k posts

Let's GOOOOOOOO

JakeF 04-22-2021 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 15635129)
If Niang is slated as the starting LT, then it'll make Fisher the swing tackle

Fisher is not going to be a swing tackle unless he's not ready to play.


Is this why we didn't really fix the OT problem, was because Reid really wants to keep the same OT's.

ThyKingdomCome15 04-22-2021 05:15 PM

Pre-draft smoke screen.

Tribal Warfare 04-22-2021 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by JakeF (Post 15640471)
Fisher is not going to be a swing tackle unless he's not ready to play.


Is this why we didn't really fix the OT problem, was because Reid really wants to keep the same OT's.


Really why won't Fisher go for it?

oldman 04-23-2021 05:59 AM

We'd be foolish not to leave the door open for them. But as someone mentioned, at what price? As of today, neither could be counted on to be game ready for the start of the season, so you still have to address that. Our season could be over real quick if we have the same OTs we had for the SB.

rabblerouser 04-23-2021 06:24 AM

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Originally Posted by chiefforlife (Post 15635135)
Id take both back in a heartbeat IF they can play.

Fish may surprise us and be ready to go. its not impossible. Schwartz too.

Maybe by week 6.

MAYBE.

Blaker32 04-23-2021 07:20 AM

I could be wrong but hasn't all of he reporting on Schwartz been that his post surgery recovery time is relatively short. I know backs are scary but if he can get healthy he seems like the easiest one to bring back.

Seeing Niang work out at left tackle in a strange way makes me feel better about the line. It locks in the left side with Niange, Thuney, and Blythe in at left tackle, left guard, and center. Right now everyone thinks its going to be Long and Remmers on the right side but I could see it being LDT and Long kicking out to Tackle with Remmers going back to Swing. If Schwartz could come back then I think the line becomes a real strength.

Couch-Potato 04-23-2021 08:16 AM

Bring both back, and draft a LT or OC as well. Takes some pressure off the new guy, maybe Fisher ends up moving to RT post-injury?

Now our OL is a huge strength.

saphojunkie 04-23-2021 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 15635420)
Actually, Reid today said it was the plan to have Niang play LT, just maybe not in the immediate future. He said they had "aspirations" of putting him at LT before he opted out.

So they were going to sign Trent Williams and then start Niang at left tackle?

Whatever the plan is now was clearly NOT the plan two months ago.

The Franchise 04-23-2021 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by saphojunkie (Post 15641176)
So they were going to sign Trent Williams and then start Niang at left tackle?

Whatever the plan is now was clearly NOT the plan two months ago.

You can have aspirations of playing Niang at LT and still try and upgrade the LT position with Williams at the same time.

Sure-Oz 04-23-2021 09:46 AM

I want Mitch to open a restaurant and retire cause that back probably won't hold up. Would love Fisher back on a 1 year.

Dunerdr 04-23-2021 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by saphojunkie (Post 15641176)
So they were going to sign Trent Williams and then start Niang at left tackle?

Whatever the plan is now was clearly NOT the plan two months ago.

I think its been communicated to literally, Reid said the was a plan to try him out on the left side. Obviously if theres a chance to have williams and Niang on the right where he played its a big win.

htismaqe 04-23-2021 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 15641179)
You can have aspirations of playing Niang at LT and still try and upgrade the LT position with Williams at the same time.

Exactly.

It really isn't that hard to understand if people accept that the team isn't thinking about this situation with the same panic they are.

htismaqe 04-23-2021 10:18 AM

They're not coming back guys, especially not Fisher.

He left a starter, he's not coming back to be a backup.

Dunerdr 04-23-2021 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 15641203)
They're not coming back guys, especially not Fisher.

He left a starter, he's not coming back to be a backup.

This is 90% fan panic. It's like breaking up with a girl, not getting laid for a month and pulling a panic move and asking her back out.

htismaqe 04-23-2021 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Dunerdr (Post 15641280)
This is 90% fan panic. It's like breaking up with a girl, not getting laid for a month and pulling a panic move and asking her back out.

Yep.

mililo4cpa 04-23-2021 11:11 AM

well, it's always good policy to keep the doors open for anyone in good standing, and Fisher is definitely that.

I think the question I would be asking is three-fold:

1. Is Fish even going to be ready to play at some point this year?
2. If 1. = yes, then when?
3. If 2. = late in the season / playoffs, then why wouldn't we keep the door open

The season is long, players are going to get hurt, and there is going to be an eventual market for quality linemen along the way. If Fish is ready by the time playoffs roll around, somebody is going to put him on a roster....who better than us if it works financially?

htismaqe 04-23-2021 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by mililo4cpa (Post 15641293)
well, it's always good policy to keep the doors open for anyone in good standing, and Fisher is definitely that.

I think the question I would be asking is three-fold:

1. Is Fish even going to be ready to play at some point this year?
2. If 1. = yes, then when?
3. If 2. = late in the season / playoffs, then why wouldn't we keep the door open

The season is long, players are going to get hurt, and there is going to be an eventual market for quality linemen along the way. If Fish is ready by the time playoffs roll around, somebody is going to put him on a roster....who better than us if it works financially?

Yep. This is the most likely scenario. Signed in November, not September.

Kman34 04-23-2021 01:23 PM

I think we can stop this talk.. He’s not coming back to sit the bench..

jallmon 04-23-2021 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Stryker (Post 15635179)
Well put and you are absolutely right. It is a "dream" more than a "reality". The Chiefs needed their hands forced to replace the tackles with youth. NOW!

And the 9ers saved us from ourselves, Trent Williams is 32 yo with significant injury history. So we can get youth on the line instead of 30+ brokedicks.

TEX 04-23-2021 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by jallmon (Post 15642129)
And the 9ers saved us from ourselves, Trent Williams is 32 yo with significant injury history. So we can get youth on the line instead of 30+ brokedicks.

I was just saying same thing to a friend.

Couch-Potato 04-23-2021 06:32 PM

Any chance of signing Shwarz as backup? Fisher as on right side?

Hamwallet 04-23-2021 08:40 PM

Fisher needs to be resigned ASAP. Want to **** this 10-15 year window up? Have a bullshit Oline.

That’s all I have to say about this.

PHOG 04-23-2021 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Hamwallet (Post 15642702)
Fisher needs to be resigned ASAP. Want to **** this 10-15 year window up? Have a bullshit Oline.

That’s all I have to say about this.

:spock:

tredadda 04-23-2021 09:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hamwallet (Post 15642702)
Fisher needs to be resigned ASAP. Want to **** this 10-15 year window up? Have a bullshit Oline.

That’s all I have to say about this.

It takes two to tango. Would Fisher even be willing to resign knowing he would have to take less to be a backup? Pretty sure that's not likely. I could see him going someplace like Indy though.

BossChief 04-23-2021 09:20 PM

Brown will immediately make us completely forget about Eric Fisher.

philfree 04-24-2021 09:21 AM

I see people saying that these guys won't sign unless they get to be starters. At this point under the circumstances I don't believe that is so. I see two guys who probably won't be ready by training camp and maybe not even till the season has already started. Who is going to sign them to be starters under this circumstance? So I can see them agreeing to a contract as a backup for the Chiefs with a chance to get another ring.

That said what is their latest status report?

kccrow 04-24-2021 09:59 AM

Doors officially slammed shut barring injuries.


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